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The usage of the term 'Wedding Langar Hall' was incorrectly termed on the website. The room depicted in the pictures is a separate room to the Langar Hall. In the Gurdwara's Langar Hall, the Sangat can, and do sit in Pangat. This other room provides the facility for Chaa/Paani for when Baraat's arrive at weddings. Also, food served in this room is not Langar, since no Ardaas is done for the food's Parvaangee/Bhog. Further, to clarify, no meat or alcohol is ever served in this room. The website will be shortly updated to reflect a more accurate description of the room. Apologies for any unintended offence.

Management Committee, Singh Sabha Hitchin

The old chai/pani for the baraat issue, just another reason for pakhand really. Never understood why the rules change for the baraat, why does a langar hall become a dinning hall when it comes to feeding the baraat ? not having a pop at hitchin, but making a general comment about the misuse of the langar hall during the chai/pani routine.

Just be glad people have started to return to having lungar in the gurdwara after the Anand Karaj normally it's off to the 'hall' for booze and meat after the gurdwara or if this is not provided a public house is always within walking distance for alcohol.

The one point I think a lot of people forget is the gurdwara in this country do need money to run and the donations are required from all Sikhs baptised and non baptised so it seems they are making it more accessible for all and if its not doing disrespectful behaviour (drink meat dancing half naked women etc etc) what's the harm.

Here are the photos of Gurdwara in Trinidad, please feel free to add more if you have any for us to enjoy. ))))

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i need to have apple cider vinegar since it is widely reccomended for a skin condition that i have hwver i have heard that there is alcohol in it, is this true? or does other types of vinegars eg, spirit vinegar also contain it and it is alloed due to the minimal proportion that it is in??

thanks

it does contain alcohol so you can't drink it, you could apply it topically to skin. if you are thinking of using it for acne its not the wondercure its hyped up to be.

The alcoholic percentage is so low you would need to drink about ten gallons before you got even remotely intoxicated and there is nothing in Sikhism that says you can’t use something which may intoxicate for medicinal purposes (within reason and not to abuse any such substance). When the singhs used to eat bark in the jungles they would use cannabis to digest it. Many talks and sermons available on this. We regular use cider vinegar in my house hold for salad dressing very nice.

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I had a friend (a Sikh lad) who served in the armed forces and was stationed over in Afghanistan. From what he told me the Sikhs were allowed to exist openly but had to wear a yellow star – like the Nazis made Jews wear in Germany- I think this was so people could tell the difference between a Sikh and the Taliban as they do have some physical similarities. They never harmed any Sikhs or destroyed any places of worship. If you recall they blew up all places of worship that were non Muslim.

I don’t know why they showed the Sikhs a bit more curtsy than everyone else maybe the history that we are the only people who defeated Afghanistan. You have to remember in Iraq there was a gurdwara that was destroyed by the extremists as soon as sadam hussian fell.

Another thing I was told was that when my mate passed a gurdwara he stopped off with unit to check as there was an elderly Sikh man stationed outside armed with AK47 when my mate approached the guard erupted from his sleep and even though he spoke with my mate and explained he was stationed to guard the gurdwara and could not let not let them in and they had to leave. Even to this day there are lot of Sikhs in Afghanistan and the dedication they show sikhi is something to be admired.

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Nice one Mr Singh good to see few lions within the sikhs in this country still.............

No charges after robber's death A shopkeeper has said he is "relieved" to not face a murder charge after a man who tried to rob him was stabbed to death with his own knife.

Liam Kilroe, of Billinge, Merseyside, was wanted by police when he was killed in Skelmersdale on 17 February.

Police believe he was trying to rob Tony Singh, who owns the Lifestyle Express shop in Birleywood, Lancashire.

The CPS has decided not to prosecute Mr Singh. The shopkeeper says he does not know how Kilroe's injury was caused.

Mr Singh was initially arrested but later bailed pending further inquiries.

Kilroe, who had previous convictions for assault and robbery, died from a single stab wound to the chest after smashing the window of the car Mr Singh was sitting in and trying to mug him.

In a statement the shopkeeper said: "I would like to say how relieved I am at the decision that I am not going to be prosecuted for any offence as a result of the incident last Sunday, 17 February.

"I was subject to a violent and unprovoked knife attack. I tried to get away from the attacker but was left no option other than to defend myself.

"In the course of the attack, I was stabbed to the head, causing what could have been a life-threatening injury, and also suffered repeated stab wounds to my back.

"In the struggle with my attacker, I understand he suffered an injury but I do not know how the injury was caused.

"I extend my sympathy to the Kilroe family who after all have lost a son."

Just days before the fatal incident, Lancashire Police appealed for Kilroe to hand himself in after he failed to appear at court to face armed robbery charges.

Those who use reasonable force in defending themselves will enjoy the full protection of the law

John Dilworth

CPS

Following the announcement not to prosecute Mr Singh over the attack, Det Supt Mick Gradwell of Lancashire Police said: "This was a violent attack on Mr Singh by a convicted armed robber.

"My recommendation was that Mr Singh should not be prosecuted and I am pleased that the Crown Prosecution Service has agreed with that."

John Dilworth, assistant district Crown prosecutor for South West Lancashire, said Mr Singh was acting in self-defence.

"While this case does not concern a householder defending themselves against an intruder, it has very similar considerations," he said.

"The CPS understands that anxiety may sometimes be felt by innocent members of the public if they are obliged to defend themselves from attack. "The Director of Public Prosecutions is determined to ensure that those who use reasonable force in defending themselves will enjoy the full protection of the law - they will not be prosecuted."