KEERPA

Many people follow what anyone says if they are famous or on tv. They need to read Guru Granth Sahib and know what is and what isnt. If a katha is against gurubani then ignore it, because it is a twist of truth. People are prone to falsehood while Shabad guru can never be wrong. People need to stop idolizing foolish people/jathas, they need to stop and think of what they are doing and listening to. If it doesnt fit the bill then throw it out(very simple) if it contradicts Gurbani then it isnt real(very simple) If some stooge can talk and blab about anything and one Shabad proves it worng then dont listen any further. Buy a senchiyan and/or Go do Paat where Guru Granth Sahib is and know the truth, dont sit around watching tv that pirates highjack for your knowledge of Sikhi, go straight to the source(SGGS) If you trust a middle man then you arent given direct information, it always has room for a personal twist. Why some people are so lazy and want others to learn for them I dont know, go out and learn for yourself, get help for finding the truth but dont trust others to hand you the truth. Guru Gobind Singh knew the only way for a Sikh to know truth was by installing Guru Granth Sahib as the eternal Guru, and all these people try to downgrade Sikhi to mislead everyone since 500 years ago, and the best way to combat this was to share with everyone the direct souce(SGGS) DOnt believe a baba just because a baba said it, go and find it for yourself where and what he was doing katha about. Dont think so shallow, learn on your own time also, dont sit around watching tv, go and manually do some effort in Sikhi. I cant understand why we allow all this corruption in Sikhi. The Panth has the power to uproot corruption. We need to nominate truth and let falsehood drown. We need programs that promote Sikhs being a Sikh and not a watcher, we need to learn not just watch. Get up and learn something new and get out of nuetral with your Sikhi.

They want to cut down everything just so some guy can hit a golfball??????????????????? india loves to cover up Sikh historical places so they dont feel so guilty of them not doing anything but letting Sikhs do the grunt work and years later covering it up so they dont feel so bad about how they treat Sikhs in modern history. How many people in india even play golf??? or are they trying to endorse it only in this region to cover up a historic battleground??? You dont see golf courses being built in Gettysberg USA.

hahhahahaha :D Now you are scared of Gurbani????? The farther from Gurubani one gets the more they find it compulsive to separate from it. :lol: I open my eyes to Guru Sahibs teachings not to some manmat view of life as you do. And I guess you are saying if you read Gurbani and apply it to your life means your not a man????? :rolleyes: wow how far backwards can you get. You justify kaam as natural and ok???? It is something you teach yourself and once caught up in it is very difficult to shed off the mind. Now since you are entrapped in it you try to cleverly justify that its ok and made by God so you can do that and get enticed by kaam. SO defeating kaam was only for 500 years ago too and modern time can flood themselves with kaam?????? wow :rolleyes: Life is to live not to spiritually die. "Live the life you love, love the life you live"

I think it would be kewl if you sold stickers of indira gandi that you put on the bottoms of your shoes :lol:

One guy did that, so he personally is stupid for that not all Amritdharis. I say Gurfateh to everyone nonAmritdhari or Amritdhari, to me they think since they arent Amritdhari they think Sat Sri Akal is good enough, to me it is an insult to say Sat Sri Akal because GurFateh is what a Sikh should say regardless of Amritchauk or not etc. I think monaey just dont like saying the word KHALSA maybe it makes them feel insecure about their Sikhi???? Ive seen ignorant people on all sides, remember you must keep Gurmat vibe to be a true Amritdhari, meaning no bad attitudes etc or your just as bad as anyone else with a bad attitude. I dont eat from nonAMritdharis because they think I think Im better than them because I made a commitment to Guru Sahib. They seem to want to break peoples Amrit by throwing in mas or their bad vibes into the food. My wife and I got into an arguement the other day about a minor infraction she did and after I yelled at her she said for me to not make her food until she says ok because she didnt want to eat food made by me even with a vibe out of the NAAM context(and we are both Amritdhari). I thought it was fair and said ok you are right. So if an AMritdhari has a bad vibe we shouldnt eat from them either, so it doesnt just apply to nonAmritdharis. People love to pull out the "you think your better" card which in most cases is the other way around, I see people think they are better because they found a way to think they dont need Amrit and just love God to understand Sikhi which completely bypasses Guru Gobind Singhs Khanda di Pahul and in this think if they put up a wall of ignorance then they have battled that guilt from their mind and actually fight against the very reason why Guru Sahib made the Sikh take a vow or be on your own with spirituality.

You are very full of kaam from how you look at females. I am married so I follow Gurmat as I am not looking at females the way you do. Hypocritical is a Sikh full of ego and any other of the panj doots. people can trick themselves all they like it doesnt matter to me if your blind and happy

India has lots and lots of western culture. Bollywood tries its very hardest to be 'hollywood" which hollywood is very selfcentered and so bollywood tries to follw trends as western culture and bring it with an indian twist but just because its on india doesnt mean its far from western culture, yes its far from western country but not actual western culture. If you arent influenced by western culture for cutting your hair then you are under hindu/muslim culture to cut your hair???? basically any culture that says its ok to cut your hair is wat you follow????????? Sikhs are not taliban to go around telling nonSikhs they cant wear a skirt, just because they are not sikhs doesnt mean its not inapproriate. SIkhs should be around places where everyone dresses in a very inappropraite manner. Sikhs should be modest and most of western culture is far from modest as guys want tattoos and cut hair so they can show off and girls want cut hair and revealing clothes so they can show off. The problem with this is they need everyone else to care about them and if they dont get recognition from boys/girls they find attractive then they go into depression because they whine and cry about "nobody loves me" garbage mind set that goes hand in hand with ego. If one guy has an ago that he is all cute and a girl he likes calls him ugly then the guy gets bent out of shape and tries to pretend that he didnt like her and that she has issuse that he didnt want her anyway(which is a lie and he reversed his stance on her because she turned him down) People that dont want to be Sikh wont be Sikh because God knows their true state of mind and misleads them away from Sikhi. supposed "youngsikh" I get this message when I read your posts about changing Sikhi and how we all need to cut our hair because everyone else does. SIkhi is the only religion that says you cannot cut your hair and has always been in a culture that everyone else cuts their hair, so this isnt anything new or needing change from. Sikhi has always has been the people with hair dhari and rishiknots. You act like just because the time and date changed that now all of a sudden the rest of society just now started cutting their hair when in fact Sikhi has since the beggining been in a society that cuts its hair. The only difference from today and years ago is that some so called Sikhs are stupid enough to cut their hair and/or wear skirts/tattoos without any want for AMritchauk and watching tv makes them "want to" but not "have to". Girls try to be cute and do whatever tv or apearance of all the other concieted people do so they can fit in, and guys try to act tougher than they are so they can boost their ego for ego seeking <banned word filter activated> girls to try to find. Modesty is far from those who want attention for their stlyed hair or skirts etc. This reminds me of your tactics on your posts:

No need to get upset. People say my name wrong all the time, they call me preetam singh. I say ummm no its pritham singh, they again say preetam singh, I again say ummm no it is p-r-i-t-a-m sing after the fourth or fifth time I just say "oh well" it is no big deal. I even have people try to make fun of my name and what does it prove??? nothing it only show how stupid people can be to try to make fun of your name. Some people act stupider than kids, most people I see that look at me stupid do worse things than we teach our kids not to do. Dont jusdge a book by its cover, but parents do. Dont point and stare but parents do. let others do their stipud things dont fall into the trap of stupidity. If they discriminate you or something of the sort then file a complaint but filing a complaint for an alleged mixup on purpose just might get them to loophole you out of a job. i.e. you file a complaint and they figure a way out to legally fire you over time with certain things you do/dont etc. (basically set you up for a legit failure and then fire you for your actions) as others said calm your ego down.

I think a good way to shine some light on this issue, is to organize protests here in the United States/Canada/UK talking about how the sgpc and badal associates need to be thrown out of power. Doing this, video tape all the different protest rallies held at many Gurdwarey, compile them and send the video tape to indian media outlets. They cant do nothing to us here and it will all have to start with a voice and then action, if we storm it now then they wont know why or what we are doing. You know the second badal knows that hundreds of thousands of Sikhs in the west talk about badal corruption it will only intensify and eventually Sikhs in Panjab will have to understand that if they start a fuss as a mass then badal cant do nothing but cry. He thinks nobody will protest his corruption because he can pay to hide it but when a huge mass of Sikhs protest all over the world then he cant do anything about it but face the consequence etc. Start a protest rally and sync it with other rallies, start the voice against the corruption. i.e. November 1st start a rally and make floats at Nagar Kirtans that show the corruption of badal & associates, spread the news to everyone so the whole of the west is telling Sikhs in panjab that we support their protests in the future.

I hope that movie isnt promoting to cut your hair??????????????????? in order to "compromise"????????? Its funny how he cut his hair and then fell into the kaam jal???????? This movie trailer has its suspicions with me :huh:

Satkar of Shabad Guru Sahib needs to be promoted to all the people/committees/Granthis that claim to be Sikhs.

So I take it what bhai Sahib said in his speech isnt agreeing with what you believe??????? You dont like pr from anything/anybody that is upfront?????? Speeches can also be promoted by anyone too :lol:

I wonder why after this long they see they divided themselves from SIkhs and want to act as a part of us while still considering BHAGAT RAvidas as a Guru and still claim to be a Sikh. A Sikh owes no allegiance to no other as a leader and only look at Guru Granth Sahib as Guru. They break very basic fundametal concepts to be considered "Sikhs". They must go around and condemn all the idiots who were protesting to ban Kirpans from actual Practicing SIKHS. They need to promote shame on all those who protested against Kakars that are a requirement of Sikhs. They protest for a ban on Kirpans but yet call themselves SIkhs???? They figured their whining didnt work and now feel they alienated themselves from SIkhi and now want Akal Takhat to cater to them. They are going to want over 100 Guru Sahabd Saroops back in their dera but still consider BhagatJi as their Guru????????? They want Granth Sahib Ji back but there isnt a Granth Sahib Ji there is only a Guru Granth Sahib JI. Have them be punished for disrespecting Guru Sahib for calling a bhagat a guru while they claim they are a Sikh????? In my view they should just make their own granth and then they cant "fence-sit" on the issue of being a Sikh or not. If they only do Ravidas bani kirtan then why even house the remaining Gurbani??????? They claim dalit wen Sikhi is against casteism, so why do they want to read Bani of a "caste" they dont associate with as there dera????? They feel bad now that they have drawn the line and now want a zigzag line :rolleyes:

There is no hukam outside of Gods command etc. If he cut his hair to fit in then its going to be difficult to have him care about that of which he will do only to not get nagged at by his family(Sikhi) Some people care about what everyone says. Society will try to buy you and chop you up and make a stew out of you and eventually give your chopped up pieces away for free, and what are you left with?(nothing) Some people cut their hair for friends but it doesnt mean they will get good friends. I used to have lots of friends and now I look back they always were trying to figure a way to get over on me, they cheated/lied etc so trying hard to have friends is a weak way of morphing into the foolish society. They all whine about the next thing they want and ever change according to what everyone else wants/likes.

You have the lamest excuse to ramble on about your stupid actions. Are you a hindu??????????????? Can a woman jump in a skirt???? Can a woman run in a skirt???? Can a woman ride a horse bike????? You are stupid and childish I would advise never to represent yourself in court cause the judge would just sent you to time out. :rolleyes: We all know that wind can interrupt a girl in a skirt But a little kid will dwell on the fact and try to twist it I know you are a moorukh so anyone that is foolish like you is a termed FOOL-moorukh. If the whole species thinks like you then yes they are fools. You can have your go at the world I dont mind but when you are proved wrong in every way then you throw out a chewbaca defense. yer tenth post will probably be even lamer than the previous 9 you post. :lol: Can a dumb person be a scientist????? In yer way of thinking yes you can (just lie on your resume) :lol:

I got a sticker from an insurance company that said "Dont get into a wreck with me Im not too sure if I have insurance" HAHAHA :lol: put that bumper sticker on and it will look like you pull a cop car around as a trailer.

Some peoples manmat moorakh views of Sikhi I consider homosexual now :lol: the supposed statement of "you can be gay and be a "Sikh" is gayer than gay :6 :lol:

is that a pic of u paneermonster?? :lol: lol

Insurance is a scam. I had full coverage on my truck and a drunk mexican ran a stop sign and t-boned me and they made me pay $500 for the damage. Then a week later the drunk mexicans insurance paid the city to make the intersection a 4 way stop and then pretended that I ran the stop sign too. :rolleyes: Insurance is a really expensive receipt. Unless you are in a bodily injury case its a basic scam which people sell you a receipt and then try their hardest to make you look like you are at fault so they dont have to pay for your service you paid for before a wreck etc. Get cheap insurance because full coverage isnt full coverage that Ive seen. China has a good car wreck system, I see that as the best way to do it rather than make a law that make hit and runners thrive.

:wacko: If that guy is a "sikh" and drinks alcohol and cuts his hair, then I am too :rolleyes: Ridiculous claims of what a Sikh is from the foolish monaey. Go get drunk and wonder why you are lost and have no faith to follow Guru Sahib. As a GurSikh you are supposed be an exact replica of Guru Sahib which brings two questions: WOuld Guru Sahib drink Alcohol???? (NO) WOuld Guru Sahib cut his hair???(NO) A GuruSikh tries their hardest to do exactly what Guru Sahib would do and monaey do what Guru Sahib would never do. Maharaja Ramjit wasnt a Sikh after his first sharaab he was just a king of the Sikhs but wasnt a Sikh king. Nihangs dispised him for being a fool and being the "king' of what he didnt do himself. Can a documented sex offender be a "babySitter"????????????????? They cant even live close to a school. Fools should have this same rule that until they stop the foolishness should admit they are foolish and only come to the Gurdwara so they can stop their foolishness not come to continue their foolishness. Why need a background check for work cause other people go to prison why check if I did too???? :rolleyes: Insecurity is the main issue here, a fool wants to call himself a Sikh because a huge group of fools also call themselves Sikhs. PapiJi they sell mirrors at walmart and that is the Sikh meter you are asking about, the rest is an Antarjami factor which has to be turned on to maintain the inside values as a Sikh. :D Are you preparing to become an Amritdhari or preparing/continuing to be a monaey-no-dhari???????? Im treating everyone as hard as I treat myself. If I think of myself as a fool for drinking etc them I will tell you too. Now do as Guru Sahib would do and start to become a Sikh.

Tell this to the GuruPanth????? You say your brand new made up way is the right way while people that live the tradition since Guru Gobind Singh are wrong???????? People like you follow trends that ever change so your style now will be completely different in five or ten years then you have to rewrite your manmat rehat etc. Not all Sikhs lived in the Jungle, you read or was told like 13 seconds of history and claim to now an iota of Sikhi. Its not required for any moorakh claimed Sikh to wear a kirpan a turban anything. Are Turbans outdated because ya got yer brand new hat on. Back wen I was a kid you were a nerd for not bending the bill to make the sides an shade for playing sports, now a daze its kewl to wear a hat thats two sizes too big and leave the tag on to show off :rolleyes: . Wen I was a kid people wore their pants on their waist and not at theyre thighs. Wen I was a kid not talking correct meant you were stupid now you got panjabis thinking they are black calling eachother nikka and act like ebonics is a language to need to learn etc. People that are kewl today will see their picture in ten years and then will be called a nerd for following the stupid fad that was sooo ten years ago. you are correct he does belong to maya, maya has him in a downward spiral. He does belong to the world and will rotate with the earth for eternity probably, its ok trade poison for nectar and see watcha get in the end. SIkhs arent the only ones close to God but those that drink are not close to god they are close to a beer mug or tiny cup of liqour rather than the essence of wat gave them life. people like you are atheist or agnostic, why? because you have no sence of reality within Sikhi, you dont read Gurbani and waste your life in a gamble. Do I lose that you derelict Sikhi??? (NO) do you (YES) You always looking of a new way to gain maya, plain and simple. People that dont follow Sikhi and still claim to be Sikhs are the ones who are superior they have this hidden knowledge of maya that shades their view and they think they have this personal relationship with the truth when each moorukh has their own way of retardation which goes to show their way is as lame as how they think. Do yourself a favor and give up religion itself because you end up wasting your life pretending to be religious. Is the wind in the past????? IS sitting in a chair and having perverts doing what they can to look up her skirt is in the past??????????????? :rolleyes: Can she ride (lets say) a bike with a skirt????? Can she walk on a see thru platform above people????????? is this in the past or are steel platform/catwalks in the past??? Is a skirt wearer able to run??????????? can she jump???????????? A skirt makes you not able to do anything but walk. Wat happens if a huge gust of wind is blowing will she be able not not be stared at wen all the perverts are around her staring????????? Lame excuses of why you lilke to see girls in skirts. You encourage manmat moorakh people to be even more foolish, good job that gets written down on your karma list too but wait karma is outdated too ???????? No need to be religious cause science says its outdated right????? but then science is mostly in religious respsects just considered "educated guesses" do they have actuall proof of how the creation was made???? no just an "educated guess" add a good word in front of a guess and it still equals a guess. Idiots going to the Gurdwara with their manmat is outdated and them not going is benefitial to all those who go for understanding Sikhi while the others can sit at home drinking in their skirts flirting with perverted guys that seem gq cause of there woman like qualities they claim as macho. :6

That is sad but things could be worse. WHat if he was slaughtered and never able to be talked to, seen again etc???? Some people fall by Gods will, some might learn the hard way, some never learn. Maya is deceptive. Maybe dont associate with him unless you have to. My parents shunned me for becoming a Sikh so I know what it feels like to have family hate you, but what can you do???wish upon a star??? pray his hair back??? ehhh I dont think that will work. Just pray for your strength that you never give up your Sikhi. Sikhi kesan suasan naal nibahi tinhan dey kammaee da dian dar key Khalsa Ji Bolo......... VaheguruJi

THen they are stupid yes I said it "stupid". What does Gurbani say about kirtan????? ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਚਾਲ ਜਿਤੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਧਿਆਏ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗਾਏ ਜੀਉ ॥ To live as Gurmukh is the lifestyle by which we come to meditate on the Supreme Lord. The Gurmukh sings the keertan of His Praises. ----------------------------------- ਕਲਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਚਾਨਣੁ ਸੰਸਾਰਿ ॥ In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the kirtan of the Lord's Praise has appeared as a Light in the world. ----------------------------------- ਰਾਮ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਲਿਵ ਮੀਠਾ ॥ Lovingly focused upon the Guru, the kirtan of the Lord's Praise has become sweet to me. ---------------------------------- ਸੁਣਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਸਾਧ ਪਹਿ ਜਾਇ ॥ Listen to the keertanof His Praises, at the Feet of the Holy. ----------------------------------- ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ I have obtained the reward of the keertan of the Lord's Praises, in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy. ----------------------------------- ਨਾਨਕੁ ਕਹੈ ਸੁਨਿ ਰੇ ਮਨਾ ਕਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਹੋਇ ਉਧਾਰੁ ॥ Says Nanak, listen, people: sing the kirtan of the Lord's Praises, and you shall be saved. ----------------------------------- ਅਖੰਡ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਤਿਨਿ ਭੋਜਨੁ ਚੂਰਾ ॥ The unbroken kirtan of the Lord's Praises is their food and nourishment. ----------------------------------- ਭਗਤ ਵਸਹਿ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਆਧਾਰੇ ॥ The devotees dwell there, with the kirtan of the Lord's Praises as their support. ---------------------------------- ਵੈਰ ਵਿਰੋਧ ਮਿਟੇ ਤਿਹ ਮਨ ਤੇ ॥ Hatred and alienation depart from those ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜੋ ਸੁਨਤੇ ॥ who, as Gurmukh, listen to the kirtan of the Lord's Praises. ----------------------------------------------- ਜੀਵਤ ਸੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਹੋਏ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨਿ ਜਾਗੇ ॥ Those who remain awake to the kirtan of the Lord's Praises - their lives are approved. ----------------------------------------------- ਹਮਰੈ ਸ੍ਰਵਣੁ ਸਿਮਰਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਹਉ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਰਹਿ ਨ ਸਕਉ ਹਉ ਇਕੁ ਖਿਨੁ ॥ My ears hear the Lord's kirtan, and I contemplate Him; without the Lord, I cannot live, even for an instant. --------------------------------------------- ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਰਸੁ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੋ ਕੋ ਵਿਰਲਾ ਪੀਵੈ ॥ How rare is that person who drinks in the Ambrosial Essence of the Lord's kirtan. ------------------------------------------ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਈ ਪਰਮ ਗਤਿ ਪਾਈ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਮੀਠ ਲਗਾਨ ਜੀਉ ॥ One whose mind is pleased with the kirtan of the Lord's Praises, attains the supreme status; the Lord seems so sweet to her mind and body. ------------------------------------------- ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਕਲਜੁਗਿ ਪਦੁ ਊਤਮੁ ਹਰਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮਾਝਾ ॥ In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the kirtan of the Lord's Praise brings the most noble and exalted status; the Lord is found through the True Guru. ----------------------------------------- ਉਰਝਿਓ ਕਨਕ ਕਾਮਨੀ ਕੇ ਰਸ ਨਹ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਗਾਈ ॥ I am entangled in the love of gold and women, and I have not sung the kirtan of God's Praises. ------------------------------------------- ਤਹਾ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੁ ਜਹ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਤੂੰ ਆਪੇ ਸਰਧਾ ਲਾਇਹਿ ॥ That place is heaven, where the kirtan of the Lord's Praises are sung. You Yourself instill faith into us. ---------------------------------------- ਕਥਾ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਰਾਗ ਨਾਦ ਧੁਨਿ ਇਹੁ ਬਨਿਓ ਸੁਆਉ ॥ This is my life's purpose, to sing the kirtan of the Lord's Praises, and listen to the vibrations of the sound current of the Naad. ------------------------------------- ਭੋਜਨੁ ਭਾਉ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਆਧਾਰੁ ॥ The love of God is their food, and the keertan of the Lord's Praise is their support. ---------------------------------------- ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਨਿਰਮੋਲਕ ਹੀਰਾ ॥ The kirtan of the Lord's Praise is a priceless diamond. -------------------------------------- ਮਿਲਿ ਰਹੀਐ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਾਧ ਜਨਾ ਮਿਲਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਸੁਨੀਐ ਰਾਮ ॥ Meet with the holy, humble servants of God; meeting with the Lord, listen to the keertan of His Praises. ----------------------------------- ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਕਲਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਵਣੇ ॥ O my mind,in this Dark Age of Kali Yuga,the kirtan of the Lord's Praises is worthy and commendable. ------------------------------------- ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਕਲਜੁਗ ਵਿਚਿ ਊਤਮ ਮਤਿ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਕਥਾ ਭਜੰਤੀ ॥ In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the kirtan of the Lord's Praise is lofty and exalted. Following the Guru's Teachings, the intellect dwells on the sermon of the Lord. --------------------------------------- ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਜਸੁ ਗਾਇਓ ਮਨਿ ਉਘਰੇ ਕਪਟ ਕਪਾਟ ॥ When one follows the Guru's Teachings, and sings the keertan of the Lord's Praises, the doors of the mind, held shut by deception, are thrown open again. ------------------------------------ ਖੁਲਿਆ ਕਰਮੁ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਭਈ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਗਾਈ ॥ Good karma has dawned for me - my Lord and Master has become merciful. I sing the kirtan of the Praises of the Lord, Har, Har. ---------------------------------- ਦੇਹੁ ਦਰਸੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਮਨੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਾਸੈ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨਿ ਮਨੁ ਠਹਰਾਇਦਾ ॥ Please bless me with the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan, to satisfy my mind, O Lord. Through the keertan of Your Praises, my mind is held steady. ---------------------------------- ਉਸਤਤਿ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਦੋਊ ਪਰਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਉਰਿ ਆਨੋ ॥ Leave behind both praise and slander; enshrine the kirtan of the Lord's Praises within your heart. -------------------------------- ਸ੍ਰਵਣੀ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਸਿਮਰਨੁ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਇਹੁ ਸਾਧ ਕੋ ਆਚਾਰੁ ॥ This is the way of life of the Holy Saint: he listens to the keertan, the Praises of his Lord and Master, and meditates in remembrance on Him. ---------------------------------- ਭੋਜਨੰ ਗੋਪਾਲ ਕੀਰਤਨੰ ਅਲਪ ਮਾਯਾ ਜਲ ਕਮਲ ਰਹਤਹ ॥ They take the keertan of the Lord's Praise as their food; they remain untouched by Maya, like the lotus in the water. ------------------------------- ਕੀਰਤਿ ਸਾਥਿ ਚਲੰਥੋ ਭਣੰਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗੇਣ ॥ So chant the kirtan of the Lord's Praises in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; this alone shall go along with you in the end. ----------------------------------- Now who is dumb enough to call themselves a Sikh but make stupid statements such as keertan is boring and you can love God better than through Kirtan?????????? OMG some people are so out of whack and try to claim they are Sikh and they follow Shabad Guru and they dont even know what is contained in Guru Shabad. They love to matha tek but not actually spend a few mins reading. How stupid can some people be????????? Some people try to claim "I am Sikh" but are they even conscious of what a Sikh is?????????

There is two ways around this, 1) be the volunteer to bring your laptop and post on the projector the hukamnama on STTM or a similar program and do the seva so others can read the interpritation of the Shabad 2) Do what I do when someone isnt there to do the projector Seva and either ask for the Granthi to tell you the Ang number(Or I stand up and look so I can go home a read from my pothis with english that Ang 702 stating at the memory of the Shabad etc) ONe step a Sikh takes is the steps towards understanding, some Granthis are lazy but then how much lazier is the Sangat????? Go out of your way and eventually the love for the Shabad will get you what you need. Why cant you make the effort if you are deprived of the interpritation in english?????? The seeker of knowlege will climb a cliff just to glance at the truth, even if you only saw it for two seconds it was still worth the climb. Remember that you are the one that should start to do things, dont rely on others or they might fail you. If you do it then only you can fail others if you dont. Easy to blame others, hard to take the initiative. Move yourself in forward motion and then Sangat will slowly but surely get out of reverse or nuetral. Others are just waiting and begging for someone to inspire them to climb that steep mountain. Stand up all eyes will be on you.

yeah thats pretty lame of those who do that. :wacko: