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  1. Actually, Sikhs didn't join the army (in any siginificant numbers) until the mutiny, so there is truth in most of teh above. It was after the receiving the help of the Sikhs and fighting with these magnificent men shoulder to shoulder that the admiration of the British grew 9they already admired their defeated enemy to an extent) and the recruitment campaigns started.

    The reason thereafter for Sikhs joining the army was becasue after teh defeat of the Sikhs, many of the men were soldiers by trade (due to Ranjit Singhs massive armies) and fighting was their skill. So they it was pretty simple really - you join an army as an employee. This wasn't new. There is ample historical evidence to prove that some Sikhs were in the employ of the Mughal fauj during 10th Masters time, and even more so atferwards i.e. Sardar Jassa Singh Ramgharia in his early years. It was in fact the Mughals whjo gave jagir initially to some Sardars for helping them fight Ahmed Sha Abdali.

    Soldier fights for money - even Guru Gobind Singh Ji had to pay his fauj and later those Singhs fighting for the Misls would freely change Misl to a higer paying Sardar.

    Also, after the enslavement of the Sikhs and banishment of their shastar, the fauj was a legitimate way for a Singh to become a fully fledged shastardhari Khalsa again...

    First of all, even if the sikhs joined the British army, it was NOT a kurehit. The britishers respected the amrit of sikhs and serving in BRITISH army was thousand times better than serving in fake DEMON cracy BAMANN HINDU-stan army.

    At the same time, I cannot imagine singhs of early 18th century like Baba Banda Singh jee Bahadur, Nawab Kapur Singh to join british army. I feel one of the reasons that singhs joined british army was the weaking of sikhi of sikh females. Sikh females of 1730's would have told their husbands to die in the battle field than to join a manmukh army. Sikh females of 1850's wanted their husbands to join the army so that she and her kids can live a decent life. Present day "sikh" females would tell their "singhs" to join RAW, IB, RSS so that they can have a nice big house, big car and their kids can get settled in rich western countries.

  2. This is a katha by Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawe waaley. Its 57 minutes 43 seconds. If you listen to the entire katha, then nothing like that. If you want the best part, you may want to start listening from 46 minutes 2 seconds onwards. These 11 minutes contain details about Khalsa Raj as stated by Shaheed Singhs themselves, I REPEAT: SHAHEED SINGHS THEMSELVES! These were told by Shaheed Singhs to none other than one of the gems of Sikhi in modern times, Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale. Listen to these amazing bachans, they are simply mind blowing! These were supposed to remain gupt, but were unfolded years later. I was thinking of typing out whatever was said, but that won't serve the purpose, plus I find myself incapable to grasp the entire aroma of it. If you want to enjoy it, listen for yourselves.

    Here is the link: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio/katha/0...rega.Khalsa.mp3

    Khalsa Raj is inevitable but I do feel that the events and the timings can change due to the ever increasing strength of maya on the human mind. We could have had khalsa raj 200 years ago but the khalsa needed more naam kamayee. We need to understand that this jagat tamasha is not a film thats already been made and the events and timings decided. This jagat tamasha is like a cricket match with Maya(manmukhs) and gurmukhs(gurmatt naam) being the two teams and the match is going through constant twists and turns.

    Indeed,

    I think the reality of the situation is, there is good reason spiritual experiences should remain Gupt. Just like performing miracles, the un-disciplined mind becomes attached to it, rather than Sweet Naam.

    If on the other hand, something is capable of helping someone to obtain greater heights in spirituality, then at times it may be prudent to reveal certain things.

    the Lord is constantly shaping and creating the Creation in whatever way the Lord wishes to fashion it. Without Sewa, Simran, Kirat, the basic tennets we should not place our hopes in achieving anything. We may get so lost in this dream, that we will not even be there to obtain it.

    Gurfateh

    Indeed, but sikhs shud be 100 % sure in their minds that khalsa raj will DEFINATELY come. This khalsa raj will consist of humans who have killed maya and the 5 demons. Dasam Duaar, Brahamgyan will be a prettty common thing in the Khalsa Raj. For Khalsa Raj to come, the present industrial civilization(maya) has to end. The present day occupations(kirat) is a torture on humanity and in Khalsa Raj we will have simple kirats like puratan kheti.

    THe present day schools, colleges and present day occupations are EVIL and have EATEN the world.

  3. This is a katha by Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawe waaley. Its 57 minutes 43 seconds. If you listen to the entire katha, then nothing like that. If you want the best part, you may want to start listening from 46 minutes 2 seconds onwards. These 11 minutes contain details about Khalsa Raj as stated by Shaheed Singhs themselves, I REPEAT: SHAHEED SINGHS THEMSELVES! These were told by Shaheed Singhs to none other than one of the gems of Sikhi in modern times, Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale. Listen to these amazing bachans, they are simply mind blowing! These were supposed to remain gupt, but were unfolded years later. I was thinking of typing out whatever was said, but that won't serve the purpose, plus I find myself incapable to grasp the entire aroma of it. If you want to enjoy it, listen for yourselves.

    Here is the link: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio/katha/0...rega.Khalsa.mp3

    Khalsa Raj is inevitable but I do feel that the events and the timings can change due to the ever increasing strength of maya on the human mind. We could have had khalsa raj 200 years ago but the khalsa needed more naam kamayee. We need to understand that this jagat tamasha is not a film thats already been made and the events and timings decided. This jagat tamasha is like a cricket match with Maya(manmukhs) and gurmukhs(gurmatt naam) being the two teams and the match is going through constant twists and turns.

  4. Very interesting topic. I feel instead of debating about different versions of history, we need to acept the MODEL that valli singh is talking about. In the future when the sikhs will have a country, there will be army (dal panth) and civilians. The civilians will also need to take some army training.(even today in many countries like South Korea, the civilians are required to do some years of army service). The head or the jathedaar of army (dal panth) should be the jathedaar of Sri Akaal Takht Sahib as well. The gurdwaras will be run by the army(dal panth). A soldier on active duty in the army will be called a nihang and the civilians will be called khalsas.

    At present, there are lots of nangs in Dal panth and have spoiled the image of dal panth. But we need to look at the model of the dal panth and not fake individuals who are currently the part of dal panth.

    Nihang rehit(jhatka and shaheedi degh are part of traditions and not rehit) is complete and shud be acceptable to the entire panth.

  5. Whenever in Gurbani, giyaan ending with aunkarr comes, it means Gurmat Giyaan. This gurmat giyaan is NIRANJAN, free from the dirt of 3-gunni maya. On the other hand, non-gurmat giyaan is not free from the dirt of maya.

    Example: someone gives u giyaan that "always respect ur parents ". This is giyaan but is limited to maya. Why ? because if ur father is a rapist, child abuser etc. u cannot respect him.

    Giyaan that one gets by following gurmat and keeping rehit and jappning Naam is free from such maya. Gurmat giyaan makes a person wise enough to interpretet the line "always respect ur parents" according to different situations, civilizations, time, situation etc......

    In the same way, whenever Naam ending with aunkaar comes it means GURMAT NAAM. This naam is NIRANJAN and is uttam among all the vedaas(here vedaas does not mean the 4 vedaas but all religious books).

  6. A personal video message delivered by famed Sikh singer/activist Rabbi Singh Shergill, to the First Global Sikh Civil Rights Conference. Rabbi speaks to civil rights issues facing the community and specifically focuses on the Right to Turban cases challenging the laws banning ostensible religious symbols in schools and on photograph identification. For more information please visit http://www.unitedsikhs.org

    Personally, I really respect and appreciate someone from his field being in perfect Sikhi saroop and coming forward to address Sikh issues in this day and age.

    God BLESS Rabbi Shergill

  7. Shabad Guru Surat Dhun Chela

    Who was the Guru of Guru Nanak - Ik Oankaar highest satguru

    if you want to say highest satguru why leave out the other 9 Sikh Guru's

    You say the Vedas are MAYA LOL the Vedas invented the theory of Maya. Read more Gurbani!

    You know NOTHING about Gurbani. This tukk is about GURMAT NAAM ABHIYAAS KAMAYEEE.

    Meaning: The shabad that a sikh gets from his Guru, must be practiced by fixing the surti on the dhunni. This tukk is not about Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Jee, but is a instruction for a sikh of Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Jee of how to do milaap with the Gur shabad WHICH IS GUR MOORAT

    Shabad Guru Surat Dhun Chela

    Who was the Guru of Guru Nanak - Ik Oankaar highest satguru

    if you want to say highest satguru why leave out the other 9 Sikh Guru's

    You say the Vedas are MAYA LOL the Vedas invented the theory of Maya. Read more Gurbani!

    If u dont stop writing this crap, U WILL BE BEATEN BY A DANDAAAAA, lol, jokes, hahahahahahahahahaha

  8. The Nirmala, Nanaksariya and those in line with Vedic thinking will say Guru Nanak is the highest Satguru.

    The highest Satguru is Ik Oankaar who is Nir-akaar. Who is Pragat in the Shabad to give Prakaash to this Duniya about the Roohaniyat. Guru Nanak received the Gurshabad and preached it.

    A person is a Moorakh according to Gurbani who calls the body a Guru. The Shabad inside Guru Nanak is the Guru.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    ik means ikankaar saroop of God and onkaaar is onkaar saroop of God. AFter God comes Satgur, after that comes Satguru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Jee.

    Guru Nanak Dev jee is not BODY. The shabad is NOT GURU. Shabad is GUR MOORAT.

    The Nirmala, Nanaksariya and those in line with Vedic thinking will say Guru Nanak is the highest Satguru.

    The highest Satguru is Ik Oankaar who is Nir-akaar. Who is Pragat in the Shabad to give Prakaash to this Duniya about the Roohaniyat. Guru Nanak received the Gurshabad and preached it.

    A person is a Moorakh according to Gurbani who calls the body a Guru. The Shabad inside Guru Nanak is the Guru.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    ik means ikankaar saroop of God and onkaaar is onkaar saroop of God. AFter God comes Satgur, after that comes Satguru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Jee.

    Guru Nanak Dev jee is not BODY. The shabad is NOT GURU. Shabad is GUR MOORAT.

  9. Raju seems to be a relatively nice Indian (he might be reading some chanakya niti secretly in the night though, lol, jokes, haha). It will be nice if we can have some debate whether Mr. Gandhi shud be called father of "nation" by the hindu population. What did he give to hindus ? Bomb blasts ? 25 crore muslim population ? poverty ? Corruption ? U have hindu leaders like Chand Mohammad converting to Islam(which might be a chanakya niti, where other hindu follow the footsteps of Chand Mohammad and "convert" to Islam, and become "muslims" and INCREASE THE INTELLIGENCE of the hindu intelligence network).

    Hmmmm, wrong sections : has very little to do with Sikh Politics. This is more hindu related. Never the less, It is totally up to the " Hindu population " if they want to call Gandhi father of the nation. We might have certan grievens with it but its their opinion which should be respected. Unless it directly has an effect on sikhi we shouldnt get involved its not a matter for sikhs to get tied up in. Think we have better things to do.

    "What did he give to hindus ? " thats for the hindus to know and discuss!

    "U have hindu leaders like Chand Mohammad converting to Islam" Thats up to him if he wants to convert, long as it wasnt forceable no need for us to have any concerns.

    Yes, their opinion shud be respected. But there are 2 things here.

    1. hindus shud call gandhi father of hindu nation and NOT nation.

    2. By calling gandhi as father of nation, hindus are going to isolate themselves from sikhs. Nathuram Godse shud be the father of the hindu nation.

  10. If God does kirpaa, a sikh of the Satguru can defeat any warrior with a wooden dandaaa. The strongest of the warriors will RUN AWAY from the wooden dandaaa.

    If God does kirpaa, a sikh of the Satguru can defeat any warrior with a wooden dandaaa. The strongest of the warriors will RUN AWAY from the wooden dandaaa.

  11. Someone with the integrity to do what is right (truth / dharam), the strength to make their presence known and a strategic mindset to think on their feet and act without fear of physical harm.

    Knowing how to fight is one thing, being able to use it to protect yourself and others is another. Allot of people in their ego use their fighting ability (or false sense of warrior spirit) to intimidate or threaten others, true warriors avoid conflict and only fight when there is no other option. In Sikhi philosopy, first comes Shaastar (knowledge and bachan), and if that fails Shastar (weapons) are drawn.

    I only know about dandaaa. I dont know about shaastraaa, lol, jokes, hahahahahaha

  12. We all know that we are supposed to be warrior saints. Think we have the saint part covered in depth. What about the warrior side, what makes you a warrior ?

    What does a modern warrior have to train in, arts to learn ?

    I cant find anything any where to illustrate what is a modern Sikh warrior, okay i know some are going to have kittens over the " modern " part. But think about it alot has changed from the days of our Guru ji's we cant just swing swords in todays combat.

    Baba Budha jee is GOD of SHASTAR VIDYA. Even Mahakaal jee takes advice of Baba Budha Jee. I hope Baba Budha jee Maharaaaj does kirpa on the sikh youth and give them bit of shastar vidya. Nidar Singh will RUN AWAY in front of an Akaali who has got BIT of shastar vidya from Baba Budha Jee Maharaaj.

  13. Taksal does meanings of this shabad differently and I have already listened to what they have to say. There were some grammar rules known to Sikh scholars prior to Prof. Sahib Singh but many believed that Gurbani was not written according to viyakaran. Even today many taksalis reject viyakaran. Explaining one word and its grammar is much different than doing aarths entirely according to viyakaran. Taksal is a source of knowledge and there is no doubt about that but if aarths contradict Gurbani then we cannot accept them. Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji and Giani Thakur Singh both do the same meanings but I have noticed one difference. Sant Ji interprets word ਕਹਹੁ differently than Giani Ji. If we accept their interpretation then we must also accept that Gurbani contradicts itself. Gurbani rejects Vedas outright as well as Quran. Guru Sahib rejected both faiths and Bhagat Ji did not follow Hinduism or Islam. Taksal is not the only source and is bound to make (unintentional) mistakes. I humbly disagree with their interpretation of the first pankti. Bhai Randhir Singh's interpretation is much better though not 100% correct. When I meet Giani Ji and other katha vaachaks I would surely ask them questions for veechar.

    Why the Vedas shouldn't be called false when these very books were responsible for enslaving the entire Indian population for centuries? They have no Naam and are full of blind rituals. Why the Quran shouldn't be called false for preaching hajj, fasting, circumcision, inequality and intolerance which are rejected in Gurbani? Kabir Ji rejects Islamic practice of halal is the very next pankti then how can he say that Quran shouldn't be called false? He has rejected both in many Shabads which I have quoted in my first post. Could Bhagat Ji contradict himself and could Guru Sahib include contradictory message in Gurbani? I do not think so. You can believe whatever you want. Guru Rakha

    Very nice post. Veer Bijla Singh Jee is right that Gurbani is written according to Grammar but when Baba Gurbachan Singh jee Bindhrawale has done my arths of the pankitis and many of these many meanings are CORRECT.

    Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindrawale had a big kamayee.

    Gurbani is not limited to viakaran is an understanding.

    Gurbani is WAY ABOVE viakaran. But the viakaran meanings are never contradicted.

  14. Vishnu is a creation of the Lord and the virtue of Sato Gun. True Vishnu and mohammed are not equals. If you want to put them into some sort of system to understand them then Mohammed is a prophet like jesus while Vishnu is an angel of God like Gabriel

    U seem to be a raw agent, hahaha jokes, clever pic above ur user name. hahaha

    Yes, vishnu and mohammad are not equal. I am not trying to promote prophet of Islam here, but I feel Jesus was a loved soul of God and JESUS IS MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN VISHNU, BRAHMA.

    Shiv is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than Vishnu and Brahma

    Trust me, lol

  15. Vishnu and Mohammad are not equals.

    Mohammad is a prophet, a human and a creation of God but Vishnu is a God.

    About circumsized people, in Bible it is written that "thou shalt be circumsized of the soul and not of any physical organ". Because the pharisees (Jews) whom Jesus had known were all circusized yet they were not good people and indulged in all manner of sins.

    This is what I think. God lives in Sachkhand. God is the boss. After God comes Satguru Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj. Outside Sachkhand, there is army of God. This army of God is above Maya(of 3 gunns). Below the army of God, maya starts to get active and there infinite creation where maya plays its role. Vishnu is below maya.

    Now comes prohet of islam, I feel he could recognize maya(satan) and wrote lots of things to help his followers fight maya. The best thing about prohhet saab was that he made people worship GOD. Jesus did the same. I have HUGE respect for anyone who makes people only worship GOD. Any "avatar" who makes people worship himself, gets beaten in the dargah which could have happened to krishan.

  16. Raju seems to be a relatively nice Indian (he might be reading some chanakya niti secretly in the night though, lol, jokes, haha). It will be nice if we can have some debate whether Mr. Gandhi shud be called father of "nation" by the hindu population. What did he give to hindus ? Bomb blasts ? 25 crore muslim population ? poverty ? Corruption ? U have hindu leaders like Chand Mohammad converting to Islam(which might be a chanakya niti, where other hindu follow the footsteps of Chand Mohammad and "convert" to Islam, and become "muslims" and INCREASE THE INTELLIGENCE of the hindu intelligence network).

  17. Sad state of the panth ??? I feel at present we have TERRIBLE STATE OF THE WORLD.

    We are on the verge of the biggest catastrophe in the history of last 4 yuggs. I agree Punjab is messed up, but India is even more messed up. Bomb blasts happening everywhere, poverty, diseases, hindu-muslim tension on an all time high. There are about 20-25 crore muslim population inside India and that means death to India.

    I agree that sikhs need to do parchar but we need to understand what is parchar ??

    The biggest parchar is live a SIMPLE, HONEST LIFE based on Gurmantar and Gurbani. The biggest parchar is to GET READY FOR SHAHEEDI.

    Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale and Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Jee put their lives on the line for the panth and fought against the false government of their time. As a result, these great sikhs got the respect of the people and many people got inspired and became sikhs. Even monnee who used to do all wrong things became amritdhari and gave shaheedis.

    A person is known by his words and actions.

    Regarding bhayas coming to Punjab, I agree there shud be some law stopping this migration. Having said that the ones who have come to Punjab can be converted to sikhi so easily. It is the Punjabis who are to be blamed. Punjabis feel they are the thekedaars of sikhi but in reality punjabis have ruined sikhi. I went to maharashtra and bidar some time back and I felt as if it was my home. I really miss some of the sikhs I met there who might be financially poor but had much more love for sikhi that the present day punjabis.

    Agree veerji

    Now if we REALLY need that much labour in Punjab, why can't we ask those millions of poor Sikh Sikligars, Vanjaras, Lobanas, Satnamias etc?

    Veerji, where in Maharashtra did you find those Sikhs? (and where they any of Sikligars, Vanjaras, Lobanas, Satnamias?)

    I went to Bidar where there is a very famous Gurdwara of Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj. Many sikligars and vanjara sikhs are taught gurmat vidyaa free of cost and there is also some free worldly education imparted to them. I am sure if we had someone like Baba Mitt Singh Jee and Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee, they would have converted these vanjaras into sarblohi naam abhiyaasi bir rasshi singhs with their dargahi kirtan, amrit-mayee sarblohi langar and powerful amrit sanchars.

    Powerful amrit sanchars are the key for the charrdikala of the sikh panth. The kamayee of punj pyaras has an effect on the amrit and dasam duaari punj pyaras can open the dasam duaars of many abhilaaakhis. There were loads of dasam duaaris in the panth in the 18th century and I have a feeling that the whole of Bandai khalsa were dasam duaaris.

    Dhan Dhan Akali Nihang Baba Banda Singh Bahadur Jee

  18. Forget about a gursikh, an ANAKHI male would die before becoming becoming a ghar jamai. People from india who RUN after girls to west loose their respect FOR LIFE. Even their wives deep down know that this guy left his parents just for money and reaching the west. Such people are just BHARREE DE TATTUUUU

    Having said that, I VERY STRONGLY BELIEVE that after marriage, the parents of the girl become the parents of the boy as well. Old people(of every religion and culture) shud be helped and their old age shud be respected by a sikh. Parents-in-law shud be treated like real parents.

  19. Sad state of the panth ??? I feel at present we have TERRIBLE STATE OF THE WORLD.

    We are on the verge of the biggest catastrophe in the history of last 4 yuggs. I agree Punjab is messed up, but India is even more messed up. Bomb blasts happening everywhere, poverty, diseases, hindu-muslim tension on an all time high. There are about 20-25 crore muslim population inside India and that means death to India.

    I agree that sikhs need to do parchar but we need to understand what is parchar ??

    The biggest parchar is live a SIMPLE, HONEST LIFE based on Gurmantar and Gurbani. The biggest parchar is to GET READY FOR SHAHEEDI.

    Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale and Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Jee put their lives on the line for the panth and fought against the false government of their time. As a result, these great sikhs got the respect of the people and many people got inspired and became sikhs. Even monnee who used to do all wrong things became amritdhari and gave shaheedis.

    A person is known by his words and actions.

    Regarding bhayas coming to Punjab, I agree there shud be some law stopping this migration. Having said that the ones who have come to Punjab can be converted to sikhi so easily. It is the Punjabis who are to be blamed. Punjabis feel they are the thekedaars of sikhi but in reality punjabis have ruined sikhi. I went to maharashtra and bidar some time back and I felt as if it was my home. I really miss some of the sikhs I met there who might be financially poor but had much more love for sikhi that the present day punjabis.

  20. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

    The first part of the Ardaas is from Chandi Di Vaar from Dasam Granth Sahib, from Ik Onkaar, Sri Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh to Tegh Bahadur Simiriyae, Ghar Nau Nidh Aavae Dhaae.

    http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&p=298 - has the translation as well.

    The remainder has been compiled by the Panth, and it has changed over time (e.g. after the partition of India, the verses about Gurudwara Nankana Sahib).

    is it true that some parts have been included in the ardas to reflect the accounts of 1984?

    No. No accounts of 84 as yet. But we will have to put it in.

    Yes, 84 shud be remembered in the ardas. Battle of 84 was one of the finest in the history of Khalsa where the coward army of bharat mata was taught a lesson by few jujharoo Khalsa.

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