~P~Kaur~

siqjiug kw AinAwie suix iek PyVy sBu jgq mrwvY] sathijaiug kaa aniaae sun eik faerrae sabh jagath maraavai| Listen to the injustice of the Satyug that only because of a single evil-doer the whole world would suffer. qRyqy ngrI pIVIAY duAwPir vMsu kuvMs kuhwvY] thraethae nagaree peerreeai dhuaafar vans kuvans kuhaavai| In the Treta, the whole city suffered because of one evil-doer and in Dvapar this suffering was limited to the one family and the family underwent the ignominy. kiljug jo PyVy so pwvY ]13] kalijug jo faerrae so paavai |13| But in the Kalyug only he suffers who commits evil deed.(13)

sikhroots jee, do you know where i can find a video by kulwinder kaur jammu, in which she sings the shabad 'udam karo karavoh thakur'?

does anyone have the videos in the two original links? the links are no longer working

faith that bhai sahib was not a liar yeah im pretty sure he wasnt one of the greatest gurmukhs of 20th century wouldnt lie i have read and decided

i know of singhs who stayed with bhai randhir singh for years they confirm he never belived in it as i said before, anyone can say what they want, bhai sahib was a man of principles and if he did change his beleif it would have been written, it would have been wide spread, all the singhs staying with him would have know. this is not the case. yes you can say who you want was there, that doesnt change anything any person can write something on tapoban or give names of people because this rumour has been spread, more and mroe people belive it, that doesnt make it true. read bhai sahibs book. full stop you are going to belive other people on bhai sahibs view rather than bhai sahib himself? thts not very clever.

it is CLEARLY not written in the same manner i dont need to read anything to know this all one has to do is read the first 1429 angs, then read raagmala completely diffrent

just because some1 has written this, does NOT make it true you can quote as many books and people as you like, but that doesnt make it true either bhai randhir singh did not belive in raagmala, and this has been verified with many of the singhs who spent most of their lives with him (unlike this one off supposed meeting) he would not suddenly change his mind therefore anything suggesting otherwise, is made up/lies/fairytales. if some1 said now "we have 5 singhs who heard baba thakur singh say raagmala is not bani", and then those singhs wrote a book about it, would you belive that? you can belive what you want, but lets not bring bhai randhir singhs name onto your side of the argument. read the book written by bhai sahib " Gurbani Diyan Lagaanmatra Dee Vilakhanta." and you will see his opinion in the section "mundavni" now surely the most reliable source to find out bhai sahibs opinion, is a book written by bhai sahib. also, it is possible to make anything mean anything, if one tries hard enough, but why is the other 1429 angs not written like this, with such words, numbering systems, grammar?

The topic is to inform Sangat about a book that proves thet Raagmala is Gurbani, not a topic to debate that point. The explanation contained therein have never been translated to English before and so it is important to give this not-for-profit book exposure. All questions posted here are answered in the book, so rather than debate here, just buy the book and read for yourself. It's only £2.99. if the book "proved" raagmala was gurbani, there would be no panthic issue, and every1 wud belive in raagmala this is not the case so well u may bnelive that this book proves raagmala to be gurbani, please do not state it in way that portrays everybody beliving that same thing. and although the questions may be answered in the book, not all will agree that these answers are correct

im confused the book is about raagmala. the topic is about raagmala, all positive views about raagmala are allowed, yet if anyone writes anything against raagmala, its a debate? if you didnt want to make a debate about raagmala you shoundt have posted the topic, strictly speaking, even though ur jus advertising a book, the rules of "talking about raagmala" on SS, are being broken. yes these meanings of raagmala may make perfect sense in your eyes, and you may belive them, however other people dont. yes, whereas someone may have tried to counter other arguemnts made in mundavni book, that does not make them counter arguemnts necesarily correct. if you to advertise points of raagmala being bani in this thread it is ONLY fair, u accept the opposite point of view if a thread was created advertising the book mundavni, im sure it would soon be closed by admin.

does anyone know where i can find "se sanjog karhu mere pyare", sung by bhai abinash singh?

really? cos as far as i know many many people have enjoyed khalsa camps all of the other times too so im afraid your slightly confused.

there was

omg thank u so much ^^^^ life saver

i really need this same shabad sung by same person lol in mp3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUcGW2-sYXU...feature=related can anyone help?/ cuz this was a house prog.... has he done similar in any rehnsbais? thnks