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thanks for the respsonse. not too great. not come to a conclusion of the problem yet. have had mri scan too, came clear. seen a chiro as suggested, and goign around trying various treatments. not too great, i nbelive acupuncture may have given short term relief, but nothing major.

The website still hasnt been updated with the photos etc from the events... are they going to be up anytime soon? Thanks Ji.

Are there any photos and video of the Wolves pgram anywhere? Thanks

baanee guroo guroo hai baanee vich baanee a(n)mrith saarae || The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained. ................... gur paarabreham paramaesar aap || The Guru is the Supreme Lord God; He Himself is the Transcendent Lord. ............................ If Gurbani is the Guru and Guru is himself God. Then that also means Bani is Akal Purakh...Bani is Akaal...The above Gurbani Thukhs make it clear. If you believe that those are the 'word' of God, then you would accept them as true, and therefore accept that the 'word' of God is also God himself.

any more info on baba darshan singh? any latest katha, or info, photos?

Thanks a lot...Okay, will defo ask this at the next physio visit. Cheers.

Oh, and was asking is it ok for belt during training? Does it limit training in any way? make the muscles weaker? Or is it a good option to prevent furhter injury?

Yeh ive read on about pottasium in diet etc..Thats not really helped though..But have been getting regular deep musle massages. havnt really helped either...like 'oh twadi' said, defo worth going chiro. And yeh, defo shouldnt slap on big weights etc, going to tak eit easy. start like you said and build in time...

Thanks agaain both of you. Yes i best avoid belts then all together. Shall i get one for weigtlifitng though? Because physio has said its ok for me to start weight training again, and i reckon a belt then would help prevent injury? I cant really ask them about getting a belt for gurdwara, because from what theyve told em i should really be going gurdwara or sitting in that position for long time...But i cant stop going gurdwara, thats not an option.

OK thanks...Ill let you know how it goes. Just another q that came to mind..so would you say its not worth having a belt at all, even if i were to wear it only at keertan programmes or when sitting at the gurdwara? as its getting to a point, when I canot sit now for long at all, in order to help, i though if i purchase a belt and wear it there, but not otherwise? still a bad idea?

A Channel I found with all styles of Keertan and Katha/Talks in both English & Panjabi from around the World. Quite Good! http://www.youtube.com/user/gurpalsingh6?feature=mhee

Interesting thread..a bit off topic but good info ..thanks for those inputting.

Thanks the vid was good! interesting... Your helps been v good...also i agree what you said about belt.because my physio also said the same thing, and i defo agree. I think ill go for number 2. because that was recommended to me by someone who has been going there. But the mctimoney system sounds like its v good too..the vid was v factual.. But I will see. As I just asked my doc for MRI scan. and he has said he would talk to my physio and compare note. there reluctant to send me off for further scans. but ill keep pushing with that first. may also try reflexology next week as i will be meeting someone who does that.

I did email a few clinics asking what method they used. this is what they said: What do you think? Number 1 doesnt sound as if it uses that technique, but it uses the one that they gave. This doesnt seem like it is as effective as the activator, Is that correct? Thoe other 2 however do provide the service. The replies are underneath: 1. The predominant technique we use is the McTimoney technique, for more information see www.mctimoneychiropractic.org 2. Thank you for your enquiry. The activator is one of the technique our Chiropractors use, as well as manipulation, acupuncture, and massage. 3. The chiropractors at this clinic do use the Activator with treating some patients here.The main technique used at the clinic is called Diversified.If however you would only want Activator methods used, then this could be arranged/provided for you.

Thats v helpful. Thanks so mcuh for that... Defo should help as my problems seem v similar to yours. So do you reckon there is any point in buying a belt to support the back?

Thanks! Thats good help, as ill defo now see a chiro. And wil ask them what technique they use...should i ask that when booking? So you only went to the chiro, and they helped the most? It seems as if my problems are v similar to yours. I also did wieghts before, have stopped now, its been 2 years. Thanks for this though! will have a read now too.

Ive done boxing. Not MMA. Its hard with dastar too.

Thanks again for the reply. Well like you said, ive got to try a few or see whats best for me. To see which instructors are better too. thanks. wjkk wjkf.

Khaalis, thanks again for the well detailed post. You spoilt the movie for me now lol..but in all seriousness, it seems like a great martial art from what is seen. It looks as if sardara singh also teaches kali, as it seems to mention it on the video. If so I will probably give that a try then. Have you trained in any arts yourself? Also your right, gatka is completely unusable really, as I learnt it for many years and would never be able to apply any of that in real life. What about Silat, i have heard it is very aggressive, how does that compare? I have also thought of Krav Maga, as that is very much practical. However, I wasn't sure on how much hand to hand combat you would learn from krav. Your right about weaponary point, its also vital to know how to use them in order to be able to defend against an attack from them. But obv wouldn't want a martial art that solely relies on this. Such as gatka. So out of the following you reckon eskrima/kali is best? JKD, WC, EC, silat, krav maga, muay thai, eskrima. And where about in Ldn are you? i might be down there sometime soon.

well first tiem the physio amssaged the back and did more deep heat stuff.gave some stretches. went for 6 weeks. did have temp relief for a day or so. the 2nd time physio sayin to strengthen back muscles etc. given strengtheneing exc. no real help. the bones speacialist has said that he cannot get to the bottom of it, and may have to send off for mri. the osteopath has also done more hands on massaging and correcting the pelvic imbalance. again relief for 1 or 2 days max. acupuncture has had no effect. people in india looked and said its a nerve pblem, blood not flwoing in some areas, apparenlty he fixed it. but obv didnt. i actaully ahvnt been chripracter yet. as everyone has told me its more muscular than spinal. and therefore chiros look at spine, so dont know...i should though and do plan to go soon. do you know of any in birmingham that are any good?

They cant pinpoint the root cause. Few things are postural problem, previosuly pulled muscles, tight muscles, extra curveature of the spine, pelvis imblanance, back spasms. Thats a few things ive been told from different specialists.

No point keeping his kes on his head and face if he has a shaved/waxed chest and armpits.. and wehre did you get these photos? any more details on him. contests? etc

Been to both. physio a few times. even osteopath... Not really helped much. Looking into getting a belt to take any strain off my back and see how it helps.

I am looking at buying a back support belt that im able to wear in general. So that it can help sitting at Gurdwara and Programs but also when walking around etc... Anyone got any ideas?

Khaalis. Who is Sardaara Singh? And where is he based? I was thinking Hari Singh for Eagle Claw. And have heard he is a brilliant tutor, he is very dedicated. So that is an option. The other 2 WC and JKD, I found a school in Birmingham City Centre for that. However, I also did consider Eskrima. But im not sure how applicable this is to life. What I am looking for was something that taught open hand combat with also the ability to defend from knife attacks. However, I dont want to train in weaponry. As I did Gatka training for a long time, and I want to learn something that I can defend myself without the use of weapons. Is Eskrima/Kali not mainly training in weaponry? and less on hand to hand combat? Thanks.