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Since when have we started the race for becoming the "largest religion" in the world???? Remember it is not the quantity but the quality that counts.

Come on....stop this India Govt bashing and think beyond it.....Embrace the reality of the situation....

Remember...lets not complicate religion...Religion is very simple... Religion is a particular process to remember God..thank him and do good deeds. So in my view, there is nothing that stops a sikh marrying a non sikh...only remember that either of the partner should not force their religion on each other...it is just like telling the other person that my religion and my way is the best and you have to follow it. If the other person willingly on its own feels that the person wants to convert into sikhism, then it is okay...but dont force them. Our Gurus didnt force people to convert into sikhism...We are not in a race to become the biggest religion in the world. The only complication that arises when a sikh marries a non sikh is that when you have children, then what religion will they follow. The sikh and a non sikh combination is very different as Sikhs dont cut hair while non sikhs do cut hair....so naturally if you ask a child about what religion they want to follow, then naturaly the child will pick the easy way out i.e. non sikh, so that they dont have to bother looking after the hair. Following sikhism require dedication, true understanding and true love towards Waheguru.

why do we care...if they want to be known as a separate kaum...let them be... lets all concentrate on our sikh religion...we cant force people to be part of our religion. lets worship/remember waheguru in the way we want....and let us allow them to do it their way

This should be a good example to all those who keep on harping on Khalistan. When you cant even run a Gurudwara properly...when you cant even run Punjab properly , with all the sikhs in power.........how can you expect to run a country ?

It is without the bindi.

"Shame on UK Sikhs - 60% of them don't care 1 bit about the Khalsa Panth,future of Sikhi or the state of our community as long as they have a roof over their heads a nice car and tv they don't give a damn,not surprsing since the majority are lost and are not bothered about Sikhi,parents including children.Mark my words when their families are beaten or even killed back in Panjab then maybe just maybe they will start to care about the panth and the state it is in,right about now they don't care ,- even forgot the genocide of the last 25 yrs.Only those with PANTHIC DARDH support Sikh TV Channels and radio stations the rest have no Panthic Dardh and are ungreatful." Some questions to ponder on before saying "shame on UK Sikhs" a) Why is a channel started without even thinking/estimating the cost that it will take to run the channel? b) Why cant the trustees of the channel explore commercial ways to sustain the costs - like advts? c) Why is there a need to have three sikh channels...when you can pool together all the three channel resources and start one channel? d) Has the channel studied other faith channels like Muslim ones, Christian ones....They have numerous channels...How do they sustain themselves? e) Has any check been done on the expenses of these channel...are they making any unnessary expenses like travelling costs ?

Why is there always an emphasis to teach people in English...Why cant the younger generation take the step and learn punjabi and Gurmukhi. They can easily learn and are excited about learning other languages like French, Italian etc...but when it comes to Punjabi they put up the lame excuse that they are not ready to learn this and it is the Gurudwara's job to translate everything in English.

In my view, lets not keep on bringing the 1984 episode everytime....I agree that it was one of the crueliest thing against sikhs, but then lets move on now. Lets just learn from this and be careful and more stronger in future. Please lets not keep on bringing this or having special programes to mark the day. Lets just join together and do something for the sikhs rather than just bringing up this everytime. I am sure people are going to pounce me on this, but sincerely if we dont forget the past, we will never move on. We should forgive the sinners. This is humanity.

Hi...Thanks for your questions...See I am still a "murak" insaan and I am still learning. And the best way to learn is to do the sangat of learned people and get their views. I was listening to Giani Sant Singh Ji Maskeen katha one day where he mentioned that the best way to chant waheguru was to do it slowly so that the lips say that word and the mind listens and feels it. He also showed how to do it. And believe me it really sounded very soulful and peaceful. So when I recently noticed some Ragi Jathas doing that very fast, so a natural question came into my mind as to what could be right way. So thats why I started this forum. I was merely asking for other people views on it...I did not want to start a controversy over here on this topic or get personal with others. I personally do the waheguru simran quite slowly by feeling the word. But again I have understood from other people's view out here is that there is no right or wrong way. But again I admit that I am not a good sikh as I don't do it regularly or for a fixed number of hours or at a particular time. Again quoting one of the katha of Giani Sant Singh ji Maskeen...he mentioned that the best thing about our religion through ancient times has been that we don't force our views on others but have a honest discussion about things..Guru Nanak Dev ji challenged the old mindless rituals by having discussions with people and showing them the right way. He did not get angry with people but he did that in a nicer way by going into the basics and by giving them practical examples. We should carry on that tradition of going into the basics and questioning ourself as to how we can improve things. That was all my moto...as I said I am still a learner and was just trying to understand other people views. I thank you all for your answers. They are much appreciated and eye opener for me.

A very similar post i saw on sikhnet forum also. Did you post it there also? Hi...No, this is the first post that I have posted...did not know that a similar one was posted in sikhnet forum also. Will read that one as well. Thanks

Thank you all for your views...All your views does make sense and I can see your view points. The whole idea of this post was to get other people views...and it has been successful. Thank you again

" You should perhaps doing more simran rather than making topics like this. God isnt only exclusive to the people who do simran the way you do. " I didn't say anywhere that My way is correct !!! Please For God sake read the words carefully before jumping to reply....If you read my words I only mentioned..."I think" I only invited your views on the method of chanting Waheguru...I didnt ask you to get personal by commenting on what I should do... By the way I dont need your advice as to what topic I need to raise...if you are not interested ....please just dont reply. "Stupid example,jus because they say it "slowly,nicely" doesnt mean they actually mean it. " Please be careful with the kind of words you use out here...I haven't used such words like "Stupid" and won't be accepting such words.... Please maintain your basic decency while replying to posts...

Sorry Praji coudn't understand what you meant by that .... If I understood you correctly then you mean that chanting Waheguru in any way is correct? I think it is not about what one feels good but what should be the right way. Let me explain this in a different manner. For eg, a person joins a construction company as an Engineer. He is given the job because he has to build a 10 storey office complex. This building has to be built as per the Govt Regulations. But the Engineer thinks that he can do whatever he feels is "Good" rather than the right way "to follow the Rules". So he builds only 8 storey office complex and that too by using sub grade building material. Now does this mean that he did the right job? No...because he his building was not built in the correct manner that could stand the test of time....because he felt that whatever he did was "good" does not mean that he did it in the right way. I hope I made my point clear. Waheguru is a way to say thanks and remembering God.....Just imagine your brother/son saying thank you to you...Would you like him to say that in a repititive non stop manner and very fast or would you prefer the person say it nicely, slowly by actually meaning it?

Sat Sri Akal, I am wondering if anyone can let me know where I can get/buy the audio or video recording of the kirtan that Bhai Harban Singh Jagadhari Wale recently at Smethwick Gurudwara on 26th Sept 2009. I watched it on sikhchannel and really liked it I have done a google search but can't find it. Regards