sher_panjabi

Marijuana/ Bhang

The Takhat Sahibs that follow the Panthic Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sri Akaal Takht Sahib, Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib, and Takht Sri Damdama Sahib) do not condone Marijuana.

The Panthic Sikh Rehit Maryada prohibits BHANG and anyone who consumes Marijuana is a Thankhaiya according to Sikh Rehit Maryada as well as Gurbani.

Consuming meat

- Yes, you will not be "prohibited" from eating meat. The only clear instruction given is "do not consume halaal". Depending on who is doing sevaa in the Panj Pyaare, the Jathedaar may discourage Sangat to eat meat but due to restraints by the SGPC they don't say a clear cut no to meat. Some family members have taken Amrit at Kesgarh Sahib and at that time the Singhs doing seva told them that "Sikhs are not vegetarian. Do not think you have to eat Masraa di Daal after taking Amrit." On the other hand, another Singh took Amrit at the same Takht Sahib in 2006 and was told "Halaal is Bajjar Kurehat. However, eating meat is wrong and Sangat should refrain from eating any meat."

The differing views on meat depend on the Singhs doing seva, however at the end of the day they all restricted in what they can say because of the SGPC's guidelines. The Bajjar Kurehat is "EATING KUTTHAA". All Gursikhs, Samapardas, and Jathas agree on this. However, the difference is in the interpretation of "KUTTHAA". Where the SGPC interprets it as "slowly slaughtered meat", others (based on Gurbani) interpret it as "slaughtered meat, i.e. any type of meat".

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

A few examples of Power of Ardaas in addition to the link to story given by Kammy Kaur Bhenji:

Power of Five

http://manvirsingh.blogspot.com/2007/10/power-of-five.html

Sikh Identity & Power of Ardaas

http://manvirsingh.blogspot.com/2008/07/sikh-identity-power-of-ardaas.html

British Soldier Meets Guru Gobind Singh Ji

http://manvirsingh.blogspot.com/2007/03/british-soldier-meets-guru-gobind-singh.html

When I first Started University

http://manvirsingh.blogspot.com/2006/09/when-i-first-started-uni-part-2.html

In short Guru Ji says:

ਬਿਰਥੀ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਜਨ ਕੀ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ॥ Birthī kaḏė na hova­ī jan kī arḏās.

The prayer of the Lord's humble servant is never offered in vain.

Key word is "JAN" which means SLAVE OF SLAVE. When we become the slave of slaves of Guru Nanak Dev Ji then our Ardaas does not go in vain. So when we do Ardaas we have to do it with the bhaavnaa (intention) of a slave - i.e. you are nothing to lose. You get what you prayed for and you then thank Waheguru but if you don't get what you prayed for then you still thank Waheguru. The servant always stays loyal to the Master.

Sometime people pray but when they prayer is not fulfilled then they don't come back to the Gurdwara or don't pick up a Gutka Sahib until the next time they want something. End of the day Waheguru knows the best for us! Sometimes we pray for something and then we realise that even through pain and sorrow we get happiness. That's life! Its a the khed (game) of Waheguru.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Is this a Hollywood or Bollywood film?

Vaheguru. Really really looking forward to it!

I should really get some khulley (loose) kurte made. Because the langar is so tasty that you end up putting on a few pounds at the end of the camp! hehe.

:lol:

i've heard from a very reliable source lol that Bhai Harinder Singh Jee is going to be doing keertan :WOOHOO: can't wait.

Who is Bhai Harinder Singh? Do you mean Bhai Harjinder Singh (Sri Nagar Wale)? Or is Bhai Harinder Jee a local Gursikh?

Surrey, West London

Khalsa Ji, I don't know whether this photo is slightly larger and clearer:

With children, Daas usually compares the above picture to the following picture:

Also this is from Tribune news apparently a man who from Sikh family cutting hair. I think it from Amritsar city (or district):

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Saadh Sangat Ji, I am sure sure everyone is very distressed at the news of what is happening in India.

Benti to everyone, is to contact the news agencies in your country. So for example in the UK - BBC News, ITV News, Channel 4 News, Five News etc.

Email these news agencies that you wish them to cover the police brutality and mistreatment of Sikh protesters in India and that you are concerned by the bias media coverage at the moment in India.

If anyone has any videos, photographs or an eye-witness account (if you are in India) then email them this! I don't think they would use photographs from forums (I am guessing) so instead if you have links of photographs to news articles or if you have personal photographs then please send to them!

If you live in UK, then please use the links below to highlight you wish them include this news in the News coverage:

BBC News:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/2804227.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/y...ews/6719867.stm

ITV News:

Email - itvplanning@itn.co.uk

Channel 4 News:

Email - news@channel4.com

Channel 5 News:

http://www.fivetvonline.tv/send-a-story.php

This is an idea of what you can send (but please try and write something yourself otherwise it has less impact):

Dear BBC,

I am concerned with the bias media coverage by Indian news agencies on Sikh protests throughout India against an Indian Cult leader who is responsible for rape, murder, inciting religious hatred and recently the cold murder of a peaceful protester in Mumbai.

The police brutality against the Sikhs is not been covered by anyone. Please tell the world what is happening with the Sikhs. Only this week the BBC highlighted the human rights abuses committed by Indian police.

For photographs and video please visit this website:

http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.php?showtopic=24767

Please help.

Thanks

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Waheguru.

Waheguru

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Waheguru. I just read the news! It is very sad

What is happening?

Firstly, let's look at the man who was attacked.

1. It was irresponsible of the Rozana Spokesman and the Author to use the headline "Guru Panth nu Gurgaddi Saumpee Hai, Guru Granth Nu Nehee". How stupid can you get! The headline gives the impression that Guru Granth Sahib Ji is NOT Guru! Despite the author's intended message, the title still remains offensive.

2. I think everyone would agree that from the very beginning the Shabad/ Gurbani has been declared Guru. Guru Nanak Dev Ji said "Shabad Guru, Surat Dhun Chela" and Guru Ramdas Ji said "Bani Guru, Guru Hai Bani." Despite the Shabad being the Guru, the ten bodies of Guru Nanak Dev Ji contained the Guru-JYOT and were Akaal Roop. In 1708 Guru Gobind Singh Ji "RE-EMPHASISED" the message of all the previous Gurus that Gurbani is the Guru. Further to that the "Aad Granth Sahib" was declared as "Guru Granth Sahib Ji" (even though the Shabad was Guru, it is a fact that the name of the Granth remained as Pothi Sahib and Aad Granth from Guru Arjan Dev Ji onwards). The Guru-Jyot in totality was passed on to Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

3. The Guru Panth was given Gurgaddi in 1699 when Guru Gobind Singh Ji took Amrit from the Khalsa. So one could argue, how could Guru Gobind Singh Ji give the Gurgaddi to the Khalsa in 1708 at Hazoor Sahib when the Khalsa were already the GURU KHALSA from Vaisakhi 1699 onwards? In 1708 Guru Gobind Singh ji "re-emphasised" and made a final declaration that Guru Granth Sahib Ji AND the Khalsa are the Guru. This was physically shown by Guru Gobind Singh Ji doing Mathaa Tekh to Guru Granth Sahib Ji and then taking Hukamnama before Jyoti Jyot.

Let's analyse the attack

1. Violence is the last resort. To attack an elderly man and his family is COWARDLY. If the Singhs felt strongly then they should have met him and talked to him. The author of the article could have easily said, "Okay, I made a mistake" and then seek apology from the Gursikhs. However, this option was not given.

2. Why did the Gursikhs not write a response article clearing up the facts?

It is a shame that these people easily beat up this elderly man and his family and yet the crooks of the Panth and those who are doing Beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the Guru Khalsa Panth are not touched.

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

Tomorrow

3 days left!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Message forward:

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All the Sangat is invited to the programme below, please come and bring others:

The programme for the Lions Kingdom is as follows:

Free Admission and refreshments

Date: Saturday 24th May 2008

Time: 5:30pm - 8:00pm (prompt start)

Venue: Warwickshire College, Trident Centre, Warwick, Trident Park, Warwick, CV34 6SW

Talks by Professional Lecturers on:

1) 'The Lioness & the Raj' - David Jones (Historian & Curator)

Lecture on the remarkable life of Maharani Jind Kaur, who proved to be a persistent stumbling block in the path of the imperialists.

2) 'Clash of the Lions' - Sarinjit Singh (Military Historian & Trustee of the Maharajah Duleep Singh Centenary Trust)

Lecture on the Anglo Sikh Wars, focusing on the battle of Chillianwalla.

3) 'Legacies of Annexation' - Harbinder Singh (Director of the Anglo Sikh Heritage Trail)

Lecture reflects on the fate of the Sikhs after the fall of Ranjit Singh’ Kingdom.

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It is never to late to find out more about your faith and roots!

A special day has been organised for children and adults where you can learn about your faith & history in English.

-- One-Day Sikhi Workshop --

Celebrating the Life of Guru Arjan Dev Ji

Friday 30th May 2008

9am till 4.30 pm

@ Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara

17 A/B Queensway Trading Estate,

Leamington Spa,

CV31 3LZ.

There will be talks, discussions, Q & A, and watching Sikh films.

Please come and take part.

Dhan Hai Guru, Dhan Hai Teree Sikhee!

Waheguru

Waheguru.

Found out today that 2008 Sikhi Camp will be in London area!!! Less than an hour's drive from Southall.

Please attend.

It was great to have darshan of such dedicated young Chardi Kalaa Gursikhs.

Dhan Hai Guru, Dhan Hai Teree Sikhee

Waheguru.

Dhan Guru, Dhan Guru Ke Pyaare.

We often overlook the Kurbanian of such blessed souls and the big role they played in Sikh history.

Dhan Guru, Dhan Hai Teree Sikhee.

Contact info of local sevadaars:

Mr Gurdeep Singh Saini 01865 736881 Mob 07940717121

Mrs Satpal Kaur 01993 779310 Mob 07887655125

Mrs Kulwinder Kaur 01865 427304

The Saakhi is so simple but so meaningful and deep. Waheguru.

Very useful information.

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Jee Kee Fateh.

Someone from East London wishes to find out about the regular programmes that happen and any camps or events coming up for college age students and whether anything for the youth is starting in September so that they can tell their friends.

Thanks