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Daas would like to share a question which a non-Sikh emailed me with and the reply to it. Thanks
Q/ What is the meaning of pauree (stanza) 25 in Japji Sahib, which talks about Brahma and Shiva speaking? What is the first Nanak's view of the Hindu devas? Does the Guru Granth Sahib at some point explicitly reject the Hindu devas?
A/ According to Gurbani Shiva, Vishnu, or Brahma did exist, however they are not given any importance or significance at all. These figures were kings of their respective times. Gurmat does not accept them as God nor as incarnations of God. Like any other human beings, they had virtues and they had weaknesses. Gurbani says:
jugeh jugeh ke raaje kee-e gaavehi kar avtaaree.tin bhee ant na paae-i-aa taa kaa kiaa kar aakh veechaaree.7.
"In each and every age, God creates the kings, who are sung of as His Incarnations. Even they have not found God's limits; what can I speak of and contemplate? ||7||"
(Ang 423)
It is clear that these kings were normal people but people sung of them and made them out to be Avtars (incarnations of God) and hence they are refered to as "Devtas" or "gods". Similarly the Pharaohs were glorified and projected as living gods and as God who kept creation alive and were the creators of the world. In eastern tradition, for example in Burma or China, anytime the public saw the king or emperor people would lay down and postrate and revered the ruler as God or incarnation of God. For example these figures are sometimes depicted with ten heads or ten arms. This is not to say that they looked like aliens because they were humans. Rather the ten heads is an artists way of depicting that the figure had the power of ten people etc. However, Gurbani is totally clear that no one can put a limit on God and God is unborn. No human can claim to be God. Just as no drop of water can claim to be the ocean.
Gurbani is not a Scripture of Stories, tales or Mythologies. Instead Gurbani uses stories, characters and mythology as a "reference" to explain the Divine Truth about God.
Gurbani is clear that there are countless Brahmas and Maheshs and Vishnus and all are under the power of One Vaheguru.
nirunkaar prabh sadaa sulaamat kehi na sakai ko-oo too kad kaa.brahmaa bisan sire tai aganat tin kau mohu bhayaa man mad kaa.
"O Formless Lord God, You are eternally intact; no one can say how You came into being. You created countless Brahmas and Vishnus; their minds were intoxicated with emotional attachment."
(Ang 1403)
The Vedic tradition believed that three deities were responsible for creation, sustenance and destruction of the universe - Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. However, Gurbani uses their reference and explicitly says that all the functions of the deities are in fact all present within Vaheguru – which means that one should give up worship of deities and worship the True One (Vaheguru). The fifth Pauree (stanza) of Japji Sahib says:
eikaa maaee jugat viaaee tin chele parvaaN.jiv tis bhaavai tivai chalaavai jiv hovai furmaaN.
ek sansaaree ek bhanddaaree ek laa-e deebaaN.
"(It is believed that) the One Divine Mother conceived and gave birth to the three deities (Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh who were given duties for creation, sustenance, and destruction). (However) the One (God) is the Creator of the World; the One (God) is the Sustainer; and the One (God) is the Destroyer. God alone makes things happen according to the Pleasure of His Will. Such is His Celestial Order." (Ang 7)
In the shabad "arbad narbad...." (Ang 1035) about creation, it is clear that there was no trinity and the origin is only God. God created these beings.
Furthermore, Gurbani is clear that all these beings are thirsting for the opportunity to get the human form because it is only in the human form that we can get Gurmat Naam and realise Vaheguru:
jis naamai kau tarsehi bahu devaa.sagal bhagath jaa kee karde sevaa.
anaathhaa naathh deen dukh bhaNjan so gur poore te paae-i-Naa.3.
"So many gods yearn for Naam, the Name of the Lord. All the Bhagats (devotees of God) serve Him. He is the Master of the masterless, the Destroyer of the pains of the poor. His Name is obtained from the Perfect Guru. ||3||"
(Ang 1077)
And also:
brahm mahesh sidhh mun indraa bhagat daan jas maNgee.1.Brahma, Shiva, the Siddhas, the silent sages and Indra beg for the charity of God's Praise and devotion to Him. ||1||
(Ang 1322)
In regards to the specific example of Pauree 25, Ang 5 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee:
aakhahi vayd paath puraan.aakhahi parhay karahi vakhi-aan.
aakhahi barmay aakhahi ind.
aakhahi gopee tai govind.
"The Vedas and the Puraanas speak/estimate God. The scholars also who lecture (to others) also speak of God. Many Brahmas speak, many Indras speak. Gopis (milk maids who used to adore Krishan) and many Krishans speak of God."
(Ang 5)
It does not refer to a singular figure. There are many Brahmas; there are many Krishnas etc. There are many people throughout history who have been intellectuals, who have thought they are the creators etc.
The last line of the verse/ pauree is the key to understanding what Guru Sahib intends to tell us:
jayvad bhaavai tayvad ho-ay.naanak jaanai saachaa so-ay.
jay ko aakhai boluvigaarh.
taa likee-ai sir gaavaaraa gaavaar.26.
"O Nanak! God is as Great as He wishes to be. The Eternal True Lord knows Himself (how Great He is). If anyone presumes to describe God (and how Great He is), then that person shall be known as the greatest fool of fools! ||26||"
(Ang 5)
Guru Sahib tells us that in the world there have been countless intellectuals and scholars and there will continue to be. But, till now no one has been able to work out how Great God is and how many blessings is He bestowing upon living beings. Infinite are His virtues and infinite are are His gifts. Without God, no one can know this. This work is not in the capability of humans. That human is the greatest fool who claims to have bundled together all of God's virtues and gifts.
Although English translations are useful and provide great knowledge to Sikh Studies. However, through literal word for word Panjabi or Gurmukhi translation to English causes the implied meanings of a Shabad (hymn) to be lost and for a reader with little or no knowledge of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee, historical knowledge, grammatical knowledge, knowledge of similies and metaphors, knowledge of culture and tradition refered to etc, the true meanings can be lost.
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From book: " Kalgidhaar Jee Dey Bavanjaa Hukam" by Bhai Balwinder Singh:
... cVHdI klw dy puMj sRI gurU goibMd isMG swihb ny hwzr-hzUr ^wlsy ƒ joqI-joq smwaux qoN pihlW kuJ bcn kIqy[ ieh bcn bwbw buFw jI dy pVpoqry bwbw rwm kuier jI ny AMikq kr ley[ ieh ‘bvMjw bcn’ jo hukmW dI Skl ivc swihb sRI gurU goibMd swihb jI ny Awpxy muKwr ibMd qo aucwrn kIqy, ies pRkwr hn:
1. ikrq Drm dI krnI
2. dsvMD dyxw (dy dsvMD gurU ky rUVw)
3. kMT krnI gurbwxI
4. jwgxw AMimRq vyly (nihM spuqihM isK soq svyry)
5. syvw ruic nwl isK syvk dI krnI
6. ArQ gurbwxI dy pVHny gurU-Gr dy ivdvwn is`KW pwsoN
7. rihq pMjW kkwrW dI idRV krnI
8. siqsMg jW Sbd dw AiBAws krnw
9. iDAwn siq srUp siqgurU dw krnw
10. siqgurU sRI gurU gRQ swihb jI ƒ mMnxw
11. Ardws sB kwrjW dy ArMB ivc krnI
12. kVwh pRSwd – iqhwvl
13. jdoN qk kVwh pRSwd vrqdw rhy swrI sMgq Afol bYTI rhy
14. ivAwh AnMd ibnW gRihsq nhIN krnw
15. pr iesqrI mW, BYx, DI-BYx kr jwxnI
16. iesqrI dw mUMh nhIN iPtkwrnw
17. jgq-jUT qmwkU ƒ nw syv
18. rihqvwn qy nwm jpx vwilAW guris`KW dI sMgq krnI
19. ijqny kMm Awpxy krn dy hox aunHW dy krn ivc dil`dr nhIN krnw
20. gurbwxI dw kIrqn qy kQw roz suxnw qy krnw
21. iksy dI inMdw, cuglI qy eIrKw nhIN krnI
22. Dn, juAwnI qy kul-jwq dw grb nw kry
23. miq au~cI qy su`cI rKxI
24. SuB krmn qy kdy nw trnw
25. bu`D bl dw dwqw vwihgurU hY
26. sugMD (ksm, shuM) ky kr ieqbwr jnwaux vwly ‘qy XkIn nhIN nrnw
27. suqMqr ivcrnw
28. rwjnIqI pVHnI
29. SqrU nwl swm dwm Byd Awidk aupwau vrqxy
30. Ssqr ividAw qy GoVy dI svwrI dw AiBAws krnw
31. dUsry mqW dy pusqk, ividAw pVHnI
32. krmW ivc Kcq krm-kWfIAW dy aupdySW v`l iDAwn nhIN dyxw
33. rhrwis dw pwT kr, KVy ho Ardws krnI
34. sYn kwl soihlw qy ‘pvxu gurU pwxI ipqw’ dw slok
35. dsqwr ibnW nhIN rihxw, kys nMgy nhIN r`Kxy
36. isMGW dw A`Dw nwm nhIN bulwauxw
37. Srwb nhIN syvnI
38. BwdnI ƒ kMnXw nhIN dyvxI
39. sB kwrj sRI gurU gRMQ swihb dI qwibAw ivc krny qy gurbwxI Anuswr krny
40. cuZlI kr ky iksy dw kMm nhIN ivgwVnw
41. bcn kOVw nhIN kihxw, ijs kr iksy dw ihrdw duKdw hovy
42. drSn-Xwqrw gurduAwirAW dI hI krnI
43. bcn kr ky pwlxw
44. AiqQI, prdysI, loVvMd, duKI, ApMg, mn`uK mwqr dI XQwSkq syvw krnI
45. puqrI dw Dn ibK jwxnw
46. svWgI–idKwvy dw is`K nhIN bxnw
47. is`KI kysW suAwsW sMg inBwauxI
48. corI, jwrI, T`gI, DoKw, dZw nhIN krnw
49. is`K, is`K dw ieqbwr kry
50. JUTI gvwhI nhIN dyxI
51. drog nhIN khxw
52. lMgr pRSwd iek-rs vrqwauxw
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Q. Some Muslim scholars claim that Guru Nanak was a Muslim, using various textbooks to examine the way of life and practices of Guru Nanak. Is this believable?
A: Writing such books the authors simply try to disturb the hornet’s nest. The Sikhs do not pick holes in other’s coats. A Sikh respects every person’s belief and does not intentionally wish to cause hurt to someone’s sentiments. To call such authors true “Muslims,” as in the eyes of Guru Nanak Sahib jee, would be regrettable.
ਮ: ੧ ॥ਪੰਜਿ ਨਿਵਾਜਾ ਵਖਤ ਪੰਜਿ ਪੰਜਾ ਪੰਜੇ ਨਾਉ ॥
ਪਹਿਲਾ ਸਚੁ ਹਲਾਲ ਦੁਇ ਤੀਜਾ ਖੈਰ ਖੁਦਾਇ ॥
ਚਉਥੀ ਨੀਅਤਿ ਰਾਸਿ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਜਵੀ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਨਾਇ ॥
ਕਰਣੀ ਕਲਮਾ ਆਖਿ ਕੈ ਤਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਸਦਾਇ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇਤੇ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ ਕੂੜੈ ਕੂੜੀ ਪਾਇ ॥੩॥
“First Mehl: (For Muslims) there are five prayers and five times of day for prayer (for them); the five have five (different) names. (But the true prayers are these –) The first prayer is to speak the truth, the second prayer is honestly earned living, and the third is asking for the good of all in the Name of God. The fourth prayer is to keep one’s intentions clean, keeping the mind clean, and the fifth prayer is to praise the greatness of the Lord. (Alongside these five prayers) repeat the physical prayer (Kalima) of keeping a high moral character, you may call yourself a Muslim (meaning, only then one can call themselves a true Muslim). O Nanak! (Those who are parted from these prayers and kalima) however many they are they are merchants of falsehood, and falsehood’s honour is only false. ||3||”
(Ang 141)
As in Sukhmani Sahib Guru Sahib re-defined Baishno, Pandit, etc. and the new definition, if someone follows it, makes that person a Sikh, in the same way Guru Nanak Sahib jee is re-defining what a Muslim is and if someone follows this new definition, they are no longer a Muslim of the faith of Muhammed but a Sikh on the path of Gurmat.
If Guru Nanak Sahib jee had been a Muslim he would have done the following:
1. He would have written the whole Muslim Kalima or at least Bismillah ur Rehman ur Rahim at the head of every composition.
2. He would not have produced another set of hymns when the Quran was available already.
3. He would himself have initiated Bhai Lehna jee (the second Sikh Guru) to Islam and instructed him to visit Mecca for Hajj (pilgrimage - one of the five pillars of Islam) every year. Neither any Guru nor their followers visited Mecca after Guru Nanak Sahib jee.
4. He would have copiously praised the Quran and mentioned the name of the Hazrat Mohammed reverently. There is nohing to that end in Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee.
5. He would not have criticised the Muslim practices. His invectives especially against Roza (fasting) and Qazis (Muslim priests) are too much for a Muslim to swallow.
The religion of Gurmat Naam revealed by Guru Nanak Sahib jee was by no means an accident, coincidence or a blend of Hinduism and Islam. Sikhi is a divine revealed religion, which is has a legitimate and distinctive origin.
1. Distinct Prophet-hood and unique concept of Satguru (which is more than a prophet, teacher or master).
Guru Nanak Sahib jee was born the embodiment of the Truth, the Image of God.
Guru Nanak Sahib jee was informed of his duty by the Almighty Lord Himself, not by any angel:
ਪਉੜੀ ॥ਹਉ ਢਾਢੀ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਖਸਮ ਕਾ ਹਰਿ ਕੈ ਦਰਿ ਆਇਆ ॥
ਹਰਿ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸੁਣੀ ਪੂਕਾਰ ਢਾਢੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਲਾਇਆ ॥
ਹਰਿ ਪੁਛਿਆ ਢਾਢੀ ਸਦਿ ਕੈ ਕਿਤੁ ਅਰਥਿ ਤੂੰ ਆਇਆ ॥
ਨਿਤ ਦੇਵਹੁ ਦਾਨੁ ਦਇਆਲ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ॥
ਹਰਿ ਦਾਤੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਇਆ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਪੈਨਾਇਆ ॥੨੧॥੧॥ ਸੁਧੁ
“Pauree: I was free of work, when Vaheguru took me into His service and gave the (true) work of being minstrel. Right from the start, Vaheguru gave me His Hukam (Order) to sing His Praises day and night. Vaheguru, my Lord and Master summoned me, His minstrel, to the True Mansion of His Presence. (Vaheguru,) the Image of True Praise and Glory, gave me the Siropaao, robe of honour. The spiritual-life giving Name, Amrit Naam, the True Name, which gives eternal spiritual life, has become my food (for my soul‘s support). Those who follow the Guru's Teachings, who eat this food (of ‘Amrit Naam’) with satisfaction, obtain peace. His minstrel, (Guru Nanak Sahib jee), spreads His Glory, singing and vibrating the Word of His Shabad (meaning, enjoying the ecstasy of Naam). O Nanak! Praising the True Lord, one obtains the Perfect Lord. ||27||Shudh||”
(Ang 150)
2. Distinct Scripture
Sikhi is the only religion where the Guru status is given to the Word.
Japji Sahib tell us:
ਆਦਿ ਸਚੁ ਜੁਗਾਦਿ ਸਚੁ ॥ਹੈ ਭੀ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੋਸੀ ਭੀ ਸਚੁ ॥੧॥
"True In The Primal Beginning. True Throughout The Ages. True Here And Now. O Nanak, Forever And Ever True. ||1||"
(Ang 1)
3. Distinct Conception of Divinity
The idea and personality of one's God is emulated and projected by the Prophet or Guru. This is then passed from the religious leader to the followers.
Gurmat believes Vaheguru is Fearless, Without Hatred, All-Loving and All-Forgiving. The concept of Divinity in Gurmat unlike Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism is not jealous, hates certain people or vengeful in His actions. For this reason, the concept or vocabulary of hatred, damnation, or vengeance does not exist in Sikhi. Gurmat believes in forgiving, tolerating others, and delivering justice. This has been lived and preached by the Gurus and has been projected through the history pages of the Sikhs.
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Vaheguroo.
Respect to the Sangat who sat in the rain and cold weather in order to upkeep the Satkaar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee. May we all be inspired and awaken to the Kirpaa Guru Sahib has on his Sikhs.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is the speaking voice of Guru Nanak Sahib jee. This is has been shown once again through the Hukamnama. Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee.
Dhan Guru, Dhan Guru Ke Piyaare.
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Vaheguru Jee Ka Khalsa,
Vaheguru Jee Kee Fateh
Dear Bhenji/Bhaji
Please feel free to email Daas on manvir.khalsa@gmail.com
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Nice articles about Kutthaa and meat on Panthic Weekly:
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Veer jee/ Bhenji you will find Powerpoints in the Picture/Multimedia/Downloads section of the Forum
More links:
http://www.ektaone.com/powerpoint.php
http://forums.waheguroo.com/Sikh-Education...nts-t16089.html
http://forums.waheguroo.com/Nitnem-and-Oth...raj-t11510.html
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There is no Maryada for Sampath Paath.
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Daas doesn't want to delve into the meat debate (its BORING! lol.).
Rather than "HALAAL MEAT" perhaps we should re-focus to look at "HALAAL FOOD".
A few months ago Daas bought some ACHAAR (that's "pickle"). When I got home I read the label and it said "HALAAL". I was shocked, "How can MANGO ACHAAR be HALAAL?" Daas didn't eat it out of principle.
Similarly at a Gurmat Camp Daas was talking to another Gursikh who said that VEGETARIAN products are being LABELLED as HALAAL. More and more food manufacturing is going to Muslims who are labelling everything as Halaal. Why? What next? Will an apple have a label saying "HALAAL"? One reason I see this move towards Halaal is a form of "WOLD DOMINANCE" and dominating over non-Muslims (the Kafir).
The vichaar at the Gurmat Camp was that even if VEGETARIAN FOOD is LABELLED as HALAAL - one should NOT eat that food, just as one would not eat Halaal meat under no circumstance (regardless of Rehit interpretation or stance). Halaal equals GULAAMEE (slavery). A Sikh is free and will never be enslaved. The concept of imposing Halaal is psychological and social enslavement.
Bhul Chuk Maaf.
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PARSHAAD means GRACE (Blessings).
Parshaad is something which we RECEIVE. It is the PHYSICAL BLESSING of Guru Sahib.
According to the Dharam Parchaar Committee, Sri Amritsar Sahib, whenever Ardaas is to be done followed by a Hukamnama from Guru Sahib, Karhaah Parshaad is prepared (note: according to Gur Maryada, Karhah Parshaad when prepared should be brought in Guru Granth Sahib jee's hazooree (presence) and 6 stanzas of Anand Sahib should be read before Ardaas happens). The Guru BLESSES the Karhah Parshaad and ACCEPTS it to be served to the Sangat as his physical blessing through the HUKAMNAMA. Therefore, after the Hukamnama is read then then Karhah Parshaad is tucked with a Sarbloh Kirpaan (which a symbol and manifestation of the Power of God).
Everyone listens to the Hukamnama or reads it on the board (if you come later on). After hearing or reading the Hukamnama the devotee takes Parshaad as a PHYSICAL ACCEPTANCE that he or she has (i) HEARD the Guru's Hukam, (ii) ACCEPT the Hukam and (iii) will STRIVE to implement the Hukam in their life.
Therefore, as well as being a PHYSICAL BLESSINGS of the Guru the Karhah Parshaad has a deep reverence in regards to ACCEPTING and have a willingness to STRIVE to implement the GURU'S ORDER in one's life.
Bhul Chuk Maaf.
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Vahiguroo
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Just to let Sangat know, if anyone is stuck in thinking how to get to Wolverhampton or to the Gurdwara Sahib, a useful website which daas came across is:
it shows routes via train, coach, car, walking etc
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From: http://www.veggieglobal.com/nutrition/non-...d-additives.htm
Mono- and Diglycerides of fatty acids (glyceryl monostearate, glyceryl distearate) - Emulsifier
Because E471 is derived from Glycerine (Glycerol) (see E422 above), there may be a slim chance that E471 might contain animal fats.
Advice: What you are unsure of - don't eat. It's not worth it.
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thanks for advice.
Daas will take train and then Bus 541Ae
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Is there any transport from Smethwick Gurdwara or Soho Road Gurdwara Sahib to Atam Sanskaar programme at Sedley Street Gurdwara?
If not, can anyone suggest which is the best way (train or bus) to get to Sedley Street from Soho Road Gurdwara or Smethwick High Street Gurdwara.
Thanks
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vahiguroo
God bless their souls
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Q: How can Guru Granth Sahib be true when it has the writings of various other men from different religions, i.e. Hindus and Muslims? God reveals through one messenger, like God revealed the Quran through Muhammad. How can God speak and give a message to 15 or 20 different people?
A: Islam teaches that God sends prophets to the nations, in different times and different places, to communicate His message. Since the beginning of time, Islam believes God has sent His guidance through these chosen people. They were human beings who walked among their people and taught them about faith in One Almighty God, and how to walk on the path of righteousness.
The Quran says that:
"The Messenger believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one of them believes in God, His angels, His books, and His Messengers. They say: 'We make no distinction between one and another of His Messengers.' And they say: 'We hear, and we obey. We seek Thy forgiveness, Our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys'" (Al-Baqarah, 2:285).It is believed that all prophets gave guidance and instruction to their people about how to properly worship God and live their lives. Since God is One, His message has been one and the same throughout time. In essence, all prophets taught the message of Islam - to find peace in your life through submission to the One Almighty Creator -- to believe in God and to follow His guidance.
Although only 25 prophets are mentioned by name in the Qur'an, a Hadith (no. 21257 in Musnad Ibn Hanbal) mentions that there were 124,000 of them in total throughout history. Among the prophets that Muslims honour are: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Hud, Salih, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Lot, Jacob, Josphet, Shu’aib, Job, Moses, Aaron, Ezekiel, David, Solomon, Elias, Elisha, Jonah, Zechariah, Jesus and Muhammad.
So God can speak through 124,000 people, which includes farmers and shepherds, and still reveal the same message, but apparently it’s not possible for the Almighty All-Powerful God to speak through 36 divine holy men? Where is the logic in that!
Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is ‘real’, i.e. it is ‘reality’ not philosophy. The ‘Shabad’ (Divine Infinite Wisdom) is the Guru. Guru Nanak Sahib jee and the Ten bodies revealed and interpreted the Shabad. Guru Arjan Dev Sahib jee, accumulated the Shabad revelation from the first five Nanaks, fifteen Bhagats (Devotees of God) and eleven Bhatts (Bards), and recorded it into the ‘Physical Word’ in the form of ‘Aad Granth Sahib jee’ (also referred to as 'Pothi Sahib’), which was earlier form of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee.
It is often said that Guru Arjan Dev Sahib jee included the BaaNees (revealed writings) of Hindu and Muslim mystics. This is false! All the Bhagats and Bhatts whose revealed BaaNee was accepted and included in ‘Aaad Granth Sahib jee’ shared the common religion of ‘Gurmat & Naam’ and had experienced ‘Sat’ (the Truth).
Truth is the Truth. There is no different angle to the Truth. The Truth is eternal, unchanging, and constant irrespective of which light someone sees it. Therefore, the Sikh Guru Sahibs, the Bhagats and Bhatts all experienced and talked about this One Universal Truth, which was IK OANKAAR (<>), as explained in the opening verse of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee:
<> siq nwmu krqw purKu inrBau inrvYru Akwl mUriq AjUnI sYBM gur pRswid ]
“One Universal Creator God. The Truth. Who is Naam. The Creator, who pervades everything. Without Fear. Without Hatred. Image Of The Undying. Unborn. Self-Existent. Attained by the (True) Guru's Grace.”
(Ang 1)
So what is the difference between ‘Guru’ and ‘Bhagat’ (Devotee of God). This can be explained using an analogy of a mother and child. There is one child who opens his eyes and realizes he is sitting in his mother's lapse. There is another child who crawls to his mother and then sits in her lapse. Guru Nanak Sahib jee and his Ten bodies had Brahm-Gyaan (Knowledge of God) from the beginning. They opened their eyes and they were already sitting in the lapse of Vaheguru. The Bhagats were those who through life and experience attained union with the Divine and sat in the laps of Vaheguru. Once they reached this level, through the chosen Bhagats of Vaheguru the Shabad was revealed to the world. As a consequence there is no difference between the Shabad (GurbaaNee) revealed through the Sikh Gurus and the Bhagats etc. Both are ‘GurbaaNee'.
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If you live in London:
* Sarbloh Karas and Kirpaans are sold by Uncle jee who has a stall at Nishkam Sevak Jatha Gurdwara in Hounslow.
* Kachheray available at Sikh Missionary Society in Southall (but trust me the Kachhera size is NOT fitted and it will be an odd fit - best it to get one sewn from someone)
* Dastaar/Keski material (usually its "Mal-Mal" material) available from most shops selling fabric (a lot of shops on Broadway)
If you live in Midlands:
* Sarbloh Kara, Kirpaan & Kachheray available from Panjab Roots shop near Smethwick Gurdwara or DTF shop on Soho Road.
* Dastaar/Keski material available from most shops selling fabric (Soho Road or Smethwick High St etc)
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It means that you can only wear a blade EXCEEDING 3 inches (i.e. larger than 3 inches) if you can prove you have it for one of the following reasons:
(a) for use at work;( b) for religious reasons; or
( c) as part of any national costume.
Therefore, Amritdharis can legally wear a blade longer than 3 inches. Normal public can carry a blade, however the limit is 3 inches.
Hope that helps.
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http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga...80033_en_12.htm
Criminal Justice Act 1988139.—(1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) below, any person who has an article to which this section applies with him in a public place shall be guilty of an offence.
(2) Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife.
(3) This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches.
(4) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had good reason or lawful authority for having the article with him in a public place.
(5) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (4) above, it shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had the article with him—
(a) for use at work;
(b) for religious reasons; or
© as part of any national costume.
(6) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) above shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) In this section "public place" includes any place to which at the material time the public have or are permitted access, whether on payment or otherwise.
(8) This section shall not have effect in relation to anything done before it comes into force.
Regulations in the UKIs It Legal To Carry A Kirpan In Britain?
Yes it is! Under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (section 139) and Criminal Justice 1996 (section 3 and 4) allows anyone to carry a blade exceeding the length of 3 inches for religious, cultural or work related reasons. The Criminal Justice Act and the 2003 Religious Discrimination Act safeguards the Sikhs to carry the Kirpan.
The following is a record to discussion held in the House of commons on 22 March 2005:
From www.publications.parliament.uk
David Taylor: To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what his Department's policy is on the wearing of the kirpan by Sikh employees. [221672]
Mr. Alexander: The Foreign and Commonwealth Office's (FCO) commitment not to discriminate unfairly on the grounds of religion or belief is set out clearly in our equal opportunities policy. This states: "All FCO staff are entitled to be treated with respect. No staff should be exposed to unfair discrimination, including harassment, bullying or victimisation on any grounds, particularly gender, family status, race, disability, religion, faith or sexual orientation." The FCO does not have a specific policy on the wearing of clothing or items associated with particular religions. This includes the kirpan. However, in line with our equal opportunities policy, all employees are free to practice their religion.
The FCO has taken a number of steps to address discrimination on the grounds of religion or belief. These include: diversity training for all staff, diversity objectives for all staff, provision of prayer rooms, and flexible working which enables staff to pray during religious festivals.
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Just to clarify - Sai-BhuN means "Self-existent" or "Self-illuminated."
God is "NOT CREATED". God is forever here.
When Gurbaani mentions that God created Himself it, the translation should read that God created His "SARGUN SAROOP".
Nirgun = Invisible, Formless, Unmanifested
Sargun = Visible, Manifest, Form (i.e. creation)
Nirgun has always been here. Science says that energy has never been created and is forever existent but only "Changes form" - so why can't people comprehend God being eternally existent?
Bhul Chuk Maaf.
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Q: What is the Sikh account of the creation?
A: The Sikh explanation of creation is much more detailed and true than the story of Adam and Eve etc. Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee describes what was before creation:
Arbd nrbd DuMDUkwrw ]
Drix n ggnw hukmu Apwrw ]
nw idnu rYin n cMdu n sUrju suMn smwiD lgwiedw ]1]
"(Before the creation of the world) for endless eons, there was only utter darkness. There was no earth or sky; there was only the infinite Command of His Hukam. There was no day or night, no moon or sun; Vaheguru sat in primal, (like) in profound undisturbed meditation. ||1||"
(Ang 1035)
The universe did not come into existence by itself. The Creator created it:
swcy qy pvnw BieAw pvnY qy jlu hoie ]
jl qy iqRBvxu swijAw Git Git joiq smoie ]
inrmlu mYlw nw QIAY sbid rqy piq hoie ]3]
“From the True Lord came the air (gases), and from the air came water. From water, He created the three worlds (metaphor or common term for the universe and all within); in each and every heart He has infused His Light. The Immaculate Lord does not become polluted. Attuned to the Shabad, honor is obtained. ||3||”
(Ang 19)
According to Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee the creation was manifested from the Sunn (void) in which the creator eternally existed:
suMn klw AprMpir DwrI ]
Awip inrwlmu Apr ApwrI ]
Awpy kudriq kir kir dyKY suMnhu suMnu aupwiedw ]1]
pauxu pwxI suMnY qy swjy ]
isRsit aupwie kwieAw gV rwjy ]
Agin pwxI jIau joiq qumwrI suMny klw rhwiedw ]2]
“In the Primal Void, the Infinite Lord assumed His Power. He Himself is unattached, infinite and incomparable. He Himself exercised His Creative Power, and He gazes upon His creation; from the Primal Void, He formed the Void. ||1|| From this Primal Void, He fashioned air and water. He created the universe, and the king in the fortress of the body. Your Light pervades fire, water and souls; Your Power rests in the Primal Void. ||2||”
(Ang 1037)
Is life on earth the only life? Did Vaheguru create other universes? Gurbaani tells us:
koit bRhmMf jw ky DRmswl ]
"Vaheguru created millions of universes as Dharamsaals, places to practice righteousness."
(Ang 1156)
jil Qil jIAw purIAw loAw Awkwrw Awkwr ]
There are beings and creatures in the water and on the land, in the worlds and universes, form upon form.
(Ang 463)
There are three distinct functions that Vaheguru continually performs through his creation:
eykw mweI jugiq ivAweI iqin cyly prvwxu ]
ieku sMswrI ieku BMfwrI ieku lwey dIbwxu ]
ijv iqsu BwvY iqvY clwvY ijv hovY Purmwxu ]
“Vaheguru, the One Divine Mother, emanated three functions. One, the Creator of the World; One, the Sustainer; and One, the Destroyer. He makes creation perform these functions to the Pleasure of His Will. Such is His Celestial Order.”
(Ang 7)
SiGuru Granth Sahib jee also tells us that the universe is not permanent:
inis bwsur niKAqR ibnwsI riv ssIAr bynwDw ]
igir bsuDw jl pvn jwiego ieik swD bcn AtlwDw ]1]
"Night and day, and the stars in the sky shall vanish. The sun and the moon shall vanish. The mountains, the earth, the water and the air shall pass away. Only the Word of the Guru shall endure. ||1||"
(Ang 1204)
mÚ 1 ]
n sUr sis mMflo ] n spq dIp nh jlo ]
AMn paux iQru n kueI ] eyku queI eyku queI ]4]
"Neither the sun, nor the moon, nor the planets, nor the seven continents, nor the oceans, nor food, nor the wind-nothing is permanent. You alone, Lord, You alone. ||4||"
(Ang 144)
Furthermore Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee tells us:
keI bwr psirE pwswr ]
“Many times has the creation been created (the universe been created) and expanded.”
(Ang 276)
One question, which someone may ask, is “Who created the Creator?” To Guru jee tell us:
inrBau so isir nwhI lyKw ]
Awip AlyKu kudriq hY dyKw ]
Awip AqIqu AjonI sMBau nwnk gurmiq so pwieAw ]12]
“Vaheguru alone is fearless, who has no destiny written on His head. God Himself is unseen; He reveals Himself through His wondrous creative power. He Himself is unattached, unborn and self-existent. O Nanak, through the Guru's Teachings, He is found. ||12||”
(Ang 1042)
Fundamentally, one must understand and accept that humans cannot understand the limits of God’s creative power, creation and wonder, and nor can the greatness, extent or glory of God be fully accounted in words:
nwnk, vfw AwKIAY, Awpy jwxY Awpu ]22]
O Nanak! The Almighty Lord whom is called Great (by the whole wolrd)! He Himself knows His own Greatness. ||22|| (Meaning: When desribing the account of Vaheguru's Creation the words 'thousands' or 'hundreds of thousands' cannot be used. The Creation is so countless that if we start to write about it the number figues would run out.)
(Ang 5)
nwnk krqy kI jwnY krqw rcnw ]2]
“O Nanak, the Creator alone knows the workings of His creation. ||2||”
(Ang 275)
Thus it has been shown Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee gives Sikhs an understanding of the creation of the world that is very scientific and matches the views of contemporary scientists.
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What Is Gurmat's View On Devi Devte (gods/deities)?
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The symbolism of a lotus flower is used in Gurbani. It symbolises remaining pure in society.
It "also" could be linked to Hindu devte (i.e. Brahma) however, in Gurmat the only reason for using Lotus flower in Gurdwara art (i.e. the dome) or anywhere else is to represent to remain pure and untouched by society... like the Pure Perfect Guru is in Kaljug to help us.
Bhul Chuk Maaf jee.