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  1. Lao Tzu and Physics. === . . # Dao generates the One, The One generates the Two, The Two generates the Three. The Three generates all things. All things have darkness at their back and strive towards the light, and the flowing power gives them harmony. / Tao Te Ching, Chapter 42, Lao Tzu / ============= . . My comment: / Cosmo genesis. / 1. In the beginning was Vacuum/ Dao. The Vacuum/ Dao is not died space but according to Quantum theory it is Energetic space : T=0K. 2. Dao generates the One. It means: The Energetic (Infinite/Eternal) Vacuum space generates energetic virtual particles- frozen light quanta.. They are in rest/ potential condition and written by formulas: C/D = pi, E = Mc^2, R/N = k, h = 0, i^2 = -1. They can change its rest/potential condition and become active. We call this active Energetic particle Electron: e^2= ahc 3. The One generates the Two. It means: The Ones (frozen light quanta and Electron) create Proton. 4. The Two generates the Three. It means: As result of interaction between Electron and Proton the atom was created. 5. The Three generates all things. It means: The atoms create all things. 6. All things have darkness at their back and strive towards the light, and the flowing power gives them harmony. It means: The Quantum of Light is hidden in everything. But as the ‘Bhagavad Gita’ says: Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature and My supreme dominion over all that be. / Chapter 9. Text 11./ > ========== . . # God as a Scientist !!! The masses in the Universe are very few. The distances between stars are very far. About 99% of the matter in the Universe is unseen. Nobody knows what it is. But God using his > 99% Hidden mass of the Universe take control over the < 1% Visible mass of the Universe. He is a smart physicist and mathematician . He smiles and laughs when others say: ‘ The formulas are cleverer than men’. > ========== . . # In my opinion if God exists, He/She/It would necessarily to work in an Absolute Reference Frame and had set of physical and mathematical laws to create everything in the Universe. If we find and understand this Absolute God’s House then is possible step by step to find and understand God’s Physics Laws, which Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein and many others scientists discovered. # If you don’t like the terminology like ‘ God existing’ then I can change my sentence. I will say: If we find and understand an Absolute Reference Frame in the Universe/ Nature then is possible step by step to find and understand the sense of all Physics Laws, which Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein and many others scientists discovered. Then we can understand the Physics without paradoxes. > ============= . . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik Socratus. =======================..
  2. God: Ten Scientific Commandments. ==. God has given to Physicists everything necessary to understand Him and His Genesis by Physical Laws and Formulas. ===. Scheme of Ten Scientific Commandments: Fundamental Theory 0f Existence. 1 The Infinite Vacuum T=0K 2 The particle: C/D = pi, R/N= k , E = Mc^2 = kc^2 , h = 0 , i^2= -1 3 The spins: h =E/ t or ( h=kb ) and h* = h/2pi 4 The photon, the inertia: c=1, h=1 5 The electron: e^2 = h*ca, E = h*f 6 The gravitation, the star, the time and space 7 The proton 8 The atom 9 The cell 10 The Laws a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy/mass b) Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle c) Pauli Exclusion Principle ===. The test . Every theory must be tested logically ( theoretical ) and practically a) Theory : Dualism of Consciousness: (consciousness / unconsciousness) b) Practice : Parapsychology. Meditation. ========. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. Socratus. ================..
  3. Dear citizen_soulja I agree with your point of view. Best wishes Sincerely yours Socratus ============
  4. The God spoke in the darkness: "Let there be light !" . . . . . . . . And the God said in the darkness: Let there be light: and there was light. So, we must examine three conceptions: God, darkness and light. 1 In the darkness it means in the spacetime of dark mass/ energy. The spacetime of dark mass/ energy it means in the Vacuum. The Vacuum is the Infinite/ Eternal Homogeneous Space of the lowest ( the background ) level of Energy: E= 0. The Vacuum is the Infinite/ Eternal Homogeneous Space of the lowest ( the background ) level of temperature: T= 0K. 2. The God is hidden into the Infinite/ Eternal Homogeneous Energy Space and we don't know that to say about Him/ Her/ It. But we know, that according to Quantum Physics a virtual energetic particles can exist in this Infinite/ Eternal Homogeneous Energy Space. So, we can suppose that, maybe, from these virtual energetic particles the God created light/ quantum of light. 3. So, in the beginning God created the Light. How did He do it? The Bible explain us that the God created the light very easy. God simply said: 'Let there be light: and there was light.' And for many years everybody adopted this convincing proof without any doubt. Only poor Einstein had doubts. He wrote sadly : ' All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' Nowadays every Tom, and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. ' But Tom, and Harry laughed. 'What cannot the old Jew understand?' they said bewilder. ' Isn't clear that quantum of light is a simply wave-particle, of course, simultaneously ?' . . . . . And now one part of mankind ( Religious part ) believes that God created the light in very easy way. And the other part of mankind ( Scientific part ) believes that the light is the quantum of light which simply has his own wave-particle abilities, of course, simultaneously. These two great Mystical beliefs govern on the planet Earth without understand each other. This is situation that we have now. ===============================. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik Socratus ===============.
  5. The process of conscious and unconscious. My layman's opinion. =============================== There is a possibility of the brain activity to have the ability to switch between conscious and unconscious. But this process is suppressed by contact with the cerebral cortex neurons (! ) which work in Maxwell's regime. ( !) ( Electroencephalography shows us the Maxwell's electrical activity of the brain) # To create 'awareness' having senses and thoughts is impossible. The senses and thoughts increase the cerebral cortex neurons impulses ( Maxwell's EM energy ) and doesn't give the ability ( of something ) to switch between conscious and unconscious. # Maxwell's electrical activity of the brain shows the 'normal – not normal logical ' process in the brain. To create 'awareness/ unconscious ' needs another process – Quantum (!). 'Awareness' is Quantum process. Very often it is only Quantum moment (!) but at this moment, at this second the structure of cerebral cortex neurons is changes and it means that the thought and behaviour of person changes too. And then again the Maxwell's electrical activity of the brain takes place. # " . . . the discovery is not the matter of logical thought, even if the final product is connected with the logical form". / Einstein / ===========================. P.S. Is an 'awareness/ unconscious ' equal to a 'discovery / enlightenment '? ============. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik Socratus. ============================================.
  6. God and Consciousness. If God exist, HE /SHE/ IT must be in every place it means in human brains too. Question: is it possible to prove this ? I will try. Our brain works on dualistic basis: usually consciousness (logically) and rarely unconsciousness ( at first it seems illogically but at last it shows as very wise act) . In his book ' The Holographic Universe' Michael Talbot on the page 160 explained this situation in such way: ' Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain - . . . .' But as the 'Bhagavad Gita' says: Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature and My supreme dominion over all that be. / Chapter 9. Text 11./ # Only human being have come to a point where they no longer know why they exist. They don't use their brains and they have forgotten the secret knowledge of their bodies, their senses, or their dreams. They don't use the knowledge the spirit has put into every one of them; they are not even aware of this, and so they stumble along blindly on the room to nowhere - . . . . . / - the Lakata shaman Lame Deer Lama Deer Seeker of Visions / From book / The Holographic Universe. Part 3 / 9. Page 286. By Michael Talbot. / ============================= . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. Socratus. =============================== Can a Rational Individual believe in God ? In other words: Can God be atheist, governed by scientific laws? Of course Because if God exists, he must work in Absolute Reference Frame and have a set of Physical/ Mathematical laws to create everything And if we find this God's Absolute House then we can understand Cod's Physical Laws # Has God known the formula: E=Mc^2 ? If God has known the formula why HE / SHE /IT didn't write it in His Bible? ==============================.. The people created a God. No one knows what the external characteristics of this God are, a God who made himself known with the name " I am who I am ". Is it enough for us in the XXIc ? Why didn't the formula E=Mc^2 write in the Bible? =======================================. . Each religion uses a system of symbols (images, metaphors, ancient myths and legends , beautiful stories) to explain its truth. But Bernard Shaw wisely remarked : " There is only one religion, although there are a hundred versions of it." It means that the source of all religion is one. And I try to prove this idea with the formulas and laws of physics. I don't invent new formulas. I use simple formulas which ,maybe, every man knows from school. Is it possible? Is it enough? Yes. Because the evolution goes from simple to the complex. So, in the beginning we can use simple formulas and laws. For this purpose I explain what the first law of Universe is, and second law is and ...........etc. Step by step I create a logical system of the Universe. ========================================= . . Science and Religion: Is there a conflict ? Or maybe: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. / Albert Einstein. / Or maybe: All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. / Albert Einstein. / # Science and Religion: Is there any conflict? Or maybe there isn't any conflict. Religion or Physics ? Faith or Knowledge ? Or maybe our stupidity asks these questions. =================================== . If I were God, I would give chance to Human to understand who I am by analyzing the physical formulas, equations and laws. Because to create Everything I need them. So, logically, catching the thread of the physics Human can understand Me and My Work. ============== . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik Socratus =====================================
  7. What is the material basis of Quantum Consciousness ? Will Physics explain Consciousness? ====================. Our brain works on dualistic basis: usually consciousness (logically) and rarely unconsciousness ( at first it seems illogically but at last it shows as very wise act) In his last autobiographic article, Einstein wrote: " . . . the discovery is not the matter of logical thought, even if the final product is connected with the logical form". In book ' The Holographic Universe' Michael Talbot on page 160 explained this situation in such way: ' Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain ' # In our terrestrial world the Information ( some basis of Consciousness) can be transfer to you only by Electromagnetic waves. Lorentz proved: there aren't Electromagnetic waves without Electron. Therefore I say, only Electron can be the Quantum of Information/ Consciousness. We don't have any other theory of Information's transfers. # We know the Electron is very important particle in our live. It acts in Maxwell's electrodynamics. It acts in the atom. But how Electron acts in cell and in Outer space we don't know. We need time to understand this fact. And when we understand the Vacuum and Electron we will know the Ultimate Nature of Reality, it means we will know the material basis of Quantum Consciousness too. ===========================. Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f. Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c, it means: e= +ah*c and e= -ah*c. Dirac found two more formulas of electron's energy: +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2. Question. Why does electron heed five ( 5 ) formulas? ====================. # Now nobody knows what the Electron is. 1 You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron. / Albert Einstein / 2 Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything. / Somebody / =====================. More details. # "... indeed an understanding of psi phenomena and of consciousness must provide the basis of an improved understanding of quantum mechanics." /Evan Walker / In my opinion it means that to answer to the question ' where the consciousness come from?' we must understand not only the brain but electron too. Once again. Human brain works on two levels: consciousness and subconsciousness. The neurons of brain create these two levels. So, that it means consciousness and subconsciousness from physical point of view ( interaction between billions and billions neurons ). It can only mean that the state of neurons in these two situations is different. How can we understand these different states of neurons? How does the brain generate consciousness? We can understand this situation only on the quantum level, only using Quantum theory. But there isn't QT without Quantum of Light and Electron. So, what is interaction between Quantum of Light, Electron and brain ? Nobody knows. Therefore I say: we must understand not only the brain but electron too. =================. According to Pauli Exclusion Principle only one single electron can be in the atom. If the atom contains more than one electron (for example - two), this atom represents " Siamese twins". Save us, the Great God, of having such atoms, such cells. And therefore the human brain has only one Electron. Each of us has an Electron, but we do not know it. As the 'Bhagavad Gita' says: Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature and My supreme dominion over all that be. / Chapter 9. Text 11./ ================== . Best wishes Israel Sadovnik Socratus ==================. P. S. Quantum physics meets biology. / By Markus Arndt, Thomas Juffmann, Vlatko Vedral / http://www.univie.ac...o%20Printed.pdf / and plus hundreds another articles about connection between Quantum theory and Brain. / ==============================.
  8. Some more ' true' Physical fables and fantasies. 1. The Big Bang. Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter (all elementary particles and all quarks and their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks, all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational, muons… gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a 'single point ' === . I don't agree with the 'big bang' theory because nobody knows how the ' big bang' can change into 'single point ' if Hawking's radiation from ' black hole' doesn't give it to happen. 2. Most of elementary particles were got in artificial way, using accelerators. This way, in my opinion, is mistaken. === . In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with human body and animal's head. They thought they really existed. For me these new discovered elementary artificial particles are similar to Egyptian's gods because we cannot meet them into any atom, in any physical, chemical, biological processes on our Earth. In the Ancient Greek the people believed that sphinxes and centaurs really exist. Maybe now some geneticists can create a centaur, but it will be Devil's work. I am sorry to tell that, but it seems to me, physicists, creating such elementary artificial particles look like those 'some geneticists'. ( The mad CERN's way. http://www.spacekb.c...-CERN-s-project =========== . 3. Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, there was ' bin bang'. And every particle appears with its own spin as derivative from the Big Bang. == . I think the spin of quantum particle doesn't come from big bang, but it comes with ' virtual particle from Dirac's sea'. Why? We have the real particle – electron. Nobody doubts it is a real particle. But a strange thing happens when it interacts with Vacuum. All its physical parameters become infinite. Why? Is it possible? What is the reason? # The conditions of the ocean permitted to create different kinds of fish. The terrestrial's conditions permitted to create different kinds of animals. And the 'mixed' conditions of water, earth and air on Earth permitted to create, for example, birds, which live and act in these three conditions. And if we take Universe as a whole, it is Two- Measured: close by Material ( Gravity) World exists Infinite Vacuum World. The conditions in these two Worlds are different. And when electron moves from Material (Gravity) World to the Infinite Vacuum World its physical parameters changes. " The law of conservation and transformation energy / mass" is connected with electron's transformation. We know the electron is very important particle in our live. It acts in Maxwell's electrodynamics. It acts in the atom. But how electron acts in cell and in Outer space we don't know. We need time to understand this fact. === . P.S. Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything. / Somebody./ ==== . Another ' true' Physical fables and fantasies: The time that stretches and space that expands, dark matter, dark energy, Higgs boson, quarks, gluons and tachyons, axions and partons, qravitino , . . etc. ========== . P.S. "One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - and yet it is the most precious thing we have." / Einstein./ This quote is correct, because, at last, only Physics can logically explain us the Ultimate Nature of Reality. And what can Religion do? The Religion gives the practical method to test the Ultimate Nature of Reality. ==========.
  9. You have nailed it there! The entire creation, or at least the Universe we are part of is built on what we call 'dwait' in punjabi. It basically means, 2 opposing forces/things. day/night, good/bad, up/down, hot/cold etc... It basically means: Body and Soul. == ' Then tell me, what must be present in a body to make it alive?' ' Soul' ' Is this always so?' ' Of course.' ======== . / Plato. The last days of Socrates. /
  10. Science or Religion ? Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies! That is the truth So, what is Religion? Religion is the poor man's philosophy Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies! That is the truth For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy # Cosmic cannibalising: Images show one galaxy engulfing another www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cosmic-cannibalising-images-show-one-galaxy-engulfing-another-1780652.html # The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another http://www.astronomy...ng-another.html . .. . etc So, what is Physics? Physics is the poor man's philosophy == . What to do? I think we must answer to the simple classic question: what did come first the chicken or the egg ? If somebody didn't understand this question, I will ask it simpler: What was before Vacuum or Gravity ? Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa? Why I ask these questions Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured, there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity === . Israel Socratus. ==================
  11. Do you believe in Physics ? You don't have to be so sure. Why ? === . How does Physics look now? # The basis of the Physics consists of: 1. Abstract ' inertial movement'. 2. Abstract 'ideal gas and ideal particles.' 3. Abstract 'absolute black body.' 4. Abstract 'entropy' 5. Abstract SRT negative 4 - D space, abstract 5D, …….and 11 - dimensional spaces. . 6. Abstract separated absolute space and time of Newton. 7. Abstract 'virtual particles', 'dark matter and dark energy'. 8. Abstract 'big bang'. 9. Abstract " method of renormalization ". . . . . . etc. =========.. And therefore we can read. Conclusion from the book ' The Holographic Universe ' by Michael Talbot. ' Science is not always as objective as we would like to believe.' # Conclusion from some article: ' One of the best kept secrets of science is that physicists have lost their grip on reality.' ============ . . In my opinion to understand the paradoxes we must reconsider the old basis of the Physics. === . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. Socratus. . .
  12. ' QT . . . ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should. We shall see in what follows that important interpretative issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their eventual settlement not only physical insight but also metaphysical decision '. / ' Quantum theory' by John Polkinghorne / http://en.wikipedia....hn_Polkinghorne # So, maybe, Aristotle was right separating the knowledge of Nature on two parts: Physics and Metaphysics. ==== . S.
  13. John Polkinghorne and his book ' Quantum theory'. === . I like to read his books because they raise many questions. And these questions give information for brain to think. John Polkinghorne took epigraph of his book ' Quantum theory' the Feynman's thought : ' I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics. ' Why? Because, he wrote: ' ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should. We shall see in what follows that important interpretative issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their eventual settlement not only physical insight but also metaphysical decision '. / preface/ ' Serious interpretative problems remain unresolved, and these are the subject of continuing dispute' / page 40/ ' If the study of quantum physics teaches one anything, it is that the world is full of surprises' / page 87 / ' Metaphysical criteria that the scientific community take very seriously in assessing the weight to put on a theory include: . . . .' / page 88 / 'Quantum theory is certainly strange and surprising, . . .' / page92 / ' Wave / particle duality is a highly surprising and instructive phenomenon, . .' / page 92 / ===== Togetherness. John Polkinghorne, as a realist, want to know ' what the physical world is actually like', but until now physicists don't have the whole picture of Universe. And in my opinion John Polkinghorne was right writing what to understand the problems of creating the Universe: ' They will demand for their eventual settlement not only physical insight but also metaphysical decision '. === . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus. http://www.wbabin.ne...ts/sadovnik.htm http://www.physforum...pic=23624&st=15 ================== . .
  14. What does Religion expect from modern Science ? What can modern Science learn from Religion ? ===========================================
  15. Different points of view. 1. In Physics we trust. / Tarun Biswas / and plus millions of other believers . 2. Science is not always as objective as we would like to believe. / Michael Talbot. / and plus few others. 3. Religion or Physics ? Faith or Knowledge ? / some doubtful people. / 4. Science and religion in tandem can become a great force to liberate the mind and help the humans to a fuller and better understanding of reality. / G. S. Sidhu / and plus some individuals . ===== . P.S. In Physics we trust. Is it correct ? Yes, it is logically correct. Why ? Because only Physics can logically explain us the Ultimate Nature of Reality. Israel Socratus. ==================================
  16. Why is Quantum Theory paradoxical ? ===== The theory which we call Quantum Mechanics is very strange. Because when we are talking about mechanics it means that we can imagine and see this process visually. But QM came with no visual aids, no model to picture in one's mind. Now this theory is a purely mathematical formalism, difficult to use and impossible to visualize. It simply gives the right answers to the most complicated theoretical question. Such situation satisfy maybe 99% of physicists. But there are few physicists who don't agree with this situation. They want to understand QT without paradoxes. I consider that these paradoxes are connected with only one reason: " Nobody pays attention to the geometrical form of particles". Now the physicists follow "pure" mathematicians. "Since the mathematical physicists have taken over, theoretical physics has gone to pot. The bizarre concepts generated out of the over use and misinterpretation of mathematics would be funny if it were not for the tragedy of the waste in time, manpower, money, and the resulting misdirection." - - said Richard Feynman. There is difference between "pure" mathematics and the mathematics of theoretical physics. " Pure" mathematics is infinite and the mathematics of theoretical physics is limited by natural laws. The "pure" mathematicians have all rights to create and use abstract models ( point, line …etc) Physicists must use mathematical apparatus in connection with real objects, with real particles. And they forgot about this fact. For example. 1. In thermodynamics particles are "mathematical points", 2. In QT particles are "mathematical points", 3. In SRT, particles are points. But according SRT the "mathematical point", cannot be a firm "mathematical point" . It means it is a "elastic point", which can change its form. ( ??!! ). 4. When this "mathematical elastic point" flies with speed c=1 its form become a flat circle, not a " mathematical point" flying with speed c=1. 5. In QED an electron is an elastic sphere, which can change its form. ( ??!! ). 6. The power, impulse, linear and angular momentum in physics is also a " mathematical point". 7. Then one "mathematical point" /particle/ interacts with another "mathematical point" / power, impulse / the physicists say: " The micro-world is paradoxical." 8. If physicists think about a particle as a " mathematical point" the result can be only paradoxical. And I am sure if somebody takes into consideration the geometrical form of particle the paradoxes of QT will disappear. ===== . In an Italian railway station: It was more then two hours 'till the departure of the train. I went to the café and ordered a cup of coffee. Soon two men and a very beautiful, slim woman took a place opposite me. They ordered something to drink and one of the man opened a case of violin and took out a bow. He began to explain something about the bow, carefully and gently touching it. Then another man took this bow and also enthusiastically continued this conversation. For half an hour the bow was passed from one hands to another followed with enthusiastic discussion. And the beautiful woman looked at bow, at both these men without saying a word. For half an hour I watched this group with admiration and excitement. What a class! What a cultural level! What a beauty! And now let's imagine the bow pressed into a "mathematical point" and the musicians speak seriously about a "mathematical point" which must produce a sound from a violin. Everybody will say I describe an idiotic situation. Well, I agree. But why doesn't anybody say it to physicists when they observe an elementary particle as a "mathematical point" , without paying attention to its geometrical form. When Feynman said "I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." it was only because nobody took into consideration the geometrical form of a particle. ==========. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus. =============================== .
  17. Quantum entanglement. ===== Feynman said " I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics " It was said because nobody took into consideration the geometrical form of particles There isnt Physics without particles There arent particles without geometrical forms Question What physical and geometrical parameters can have ' virtual particles ' in Vacuum ? =========================== . About Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle Take electron - symbol (e) Take proton - symbol (p) They are absolute different particles. And interaction between electron and proton is not the same than interaction between proton and electron : ep ≠ pe ( Uncertainty principle ) # Another example: A thing called shoe and a thing called sock along with the operator and which combines shoe and sock things. If you play around with it, you will find that the order is fairly important ==========. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus. http://www.physforum...pic=23624&st=15 http://www.physforum...pic=2547&st=105 http://www.physforum...?showtopic=2548 ================== . .
  18. Only human being have come to a point where they no longer know why they exist. They don't use their brains and they have forgotten the secret knowledge of their bodies, their senses, or their dreams. They don't use the knowledge the spirit has put into every one of them; they are not even aware of this, and so they stumble along blindly on the room to nowhere - . . . . . / - the Lakata shaman Lame Deer Lama Deer Seeker of Visions / ======== From book / The Holographic Universe. Part 3 / 9. Page 286. By Michael Talbot. / ========== . . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus. ===
  19. ' The idea that the universe can be viewed as the compound of two basic orders, the implicate and the explicate, can be found in many other traditions. The Tibetan Buddhists call these two aspects the void and nonvoid. The nonvoid is the reality of visible objects. The void, like the implicate order, is the birthplace of all things in the universe, . . . . . . only the void is real and all forms in the objective world are illusory, . . . . The Hindus call the implicate level of reality Brahman. Brahman is formless but is the birthplace of all forms in visible reality, which appear out of it and then enfold back into it in endless flux. . . . consciousness is not only a subtler form of matter, but it is more fundamental than matter, and in the Hindu cosmology it is matter that has emerged from consciousness, and not the other way around. Or as the Vedas put it, the physical world is brought into being through both the ' veiling' and ' projecting' powers of consciousness. . . . the material universe is only a second- generation reality, a creation of veiled consciousness, the Hindus say that it is transitory and unreal, or ' maya'. . . . This same concept can be found in Judaic thought. . . . . in shamanistic thinking . . . . . . . . . . . . Like Bohm, who says that consciousness always has its source in the implicate, the aborigines believe that the true source of the mind is in the transcendent reality of the dreamtime. Normal people do not realize this and believe that their consciousness is in their bodies. . . . . . The Dogan people of the Sudan also believe that the physical world is the product of a deeper and more fundamental level of reality . . . . . .' === . Book / The Holographic Universe. Part 3 / 9. Pages 287 – 289. By Michael Talbot. / ==================== . . . My questions after reading this book. Is it possible that Physics confirmed and proved the Religion philosophy of life ? How is it possible to understand the Religion philosophy of life from modern Physics view? # My opinion. Fact. The detected material mass of the matter in the Universe is so small (the average density of all substance in the Universe is approximately p=10^-30 g/sm^3) that it cannot 'close' the Universe into sphere and therefore our Universe as whole is 'open', Endless Void / Nothingness / Vacuum : T=0K. Quantum Physics says the Vacuum is the birthplace of all ' virtual' particles . Nobody knows what there are, but 'the virtual particles' change the Vacuum in a local places and create Nonvoid / Material / Gravity World with stars, planets and all another objects and subjects in the Universe. === . Without Eternal/ Infinite Void / Vacuum physics makes no sense. But . . . . . . . " The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion, is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can't correctly describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description of something more complex? " / Paul Dirac ./ ==========. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus. http://www.physforum...pic=23624&st=15 http://www.physforum...pic=2547&st=105 http://www.physforum...?showtopic=2548 ================== . .
  20. Mr. 'FF ' wrote: ' There is only one place where "God" has been demonstrated, even proven to exist - in human brains.' === . God and Consciousness. It seems you are right saying: 'There is only one place where "God" has been demonstrated, even proven to exist - in human brains.' Why? Because if God exist, HE /SHE/ IT must be in every place it means in human brains too. Question: is it possible to prove this ? I will try. Our brain works on dualistic basis: usually consciousness (logically) and rarely unconsciousness ( at first it seems illogically but at last it shows as very wise act) . In his book ' The Holographic Universe' Michael Talbot on the page 160 explained this situation in such way: ' Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain - . . . .' But as the 'Bhagavad Gita' says: Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature and My supreme dominion over all that be. / Chapter 9. Text 11./ ========== . . Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus. http://www.physforum...pic=23624&st=15 http://www.physforum...pic=2547&st=105 http://www.physforum...?showtopic=2548 ================== . .
  21. like millions before us when we could not explain what we saw, we turned to the gods for the answers. But Zeus never gave the answers, nor did Neptune or Ra. No answers are given by the most modern one! The answers come from mankind. It is us and only us who can unravel this mystery. With no help from any divinity. It is this mystery of who we are and what we see around us, that gives birth to gods. If there is a string theory then we will find it. But to suppose there is a single theory of everything, seems like we are still much like the ancients. Posted by " canadapiper" =====
  22. ===================================== Does God create woman from Adam's rib by physics laws ? ====
  23. ============================== Sikh Religion and Science by G. S. Sidhu M.A; FIL (London) ========== . Science and religion in tandem can become a great force to liberate the mind and help the humans to a fuller and better understanding of reality. In Sikhism a truly knowledgeable mystic is called a Sant (__=God conscious man/woman ) They explain that our visible world is only an illusion. It exists only for the realization of God's moral purposes and to translate the Will of God into activity. To see God one has to have mental vision and intuitive eyes. The Guru says, "The eyes that see God are different from physical eyes." (AGGS p. 1100) The fundamental principle of Sikhism is "God was in existence before time began running its course; He has been in existence and shall be in existence for ever and ever." (AGGS p.1 ) According to Guru Nanak, the creation sprouted from Sunn79 (void, nothingness, vacuum) in which the creator (Sat) existed. 10.1 Claims of exclusivity Exclusivity in religion goes against the grain and yet many religions and their followers claim that theirs is the only true religion, which can mould the world and lead it to salvation. Here are some examples: "The non-Christian Bibles are developments in the wrong direction." (Professor Monier Williams) "The truth capable of saving humanity is and shall be the product of Hindu Gurus forever and for ever." (Sri Aurobindo) "Following a religion other than Islam is not acceptable." (Quran 3:85) Sikhism does not claim such monopolies because monopolies invariably end up in confrontations and slanging matches. They produce only self-righteous and intolerant snobs. Sikhism preaches that exclusivity is the most damaging feature of any religion. Sikhism teaches, " The world is going up in flames O Lord— shower it with Your Mercy, Save it, and deliver it from sin through whichever door (religion) humanity approaches" (AGGS p. 853) It advises that we "should not call any religion inferior or false" and thus, "give rise to controversies." "Many roads thou hast fashioned, all of them lead to the light." (Rudyard Kipling) 10.2 Salvation Almost all religions aspire for salvation ( Mokhsha ,Nirvana) and claim that it is possible only through their particular religion. 10.3 Conversion "Do not believe in the words of a teacher unless you Yourself are convinced of the truth contained in his words." (Berkeley) Chapter 11 The universal religion "Sikhism contains the seeds of a Universal state and a Universal religion." (Arnold Toynbee) Sikhism walks hand in hand with modern scientific and technological theories. In many cases the modern theories and scientific thought simply confirm the Sikh teachings and as a consequence Sikhism has been ennobled and made more profound by science. / Sikh Religion and Science by G. S. Sidhu M.A; / =============== . # In my opinion: Religion was studied the world inside while Physics was studied the world outside. The Physics explains Logically ( ! ) what Religion is and Religion gives the Practical ( ! ) path to reach the Ultimate Nature of Reality. ======== . Socratus. ======================
  24. My article / message ( book ) isn't about faith. I say about God's existing using the Physics / Quantum theory because the Old proofs about God / Religion isn't enough in our time. ==== . Has God known the formula: E=Mc^2 ? If God has known the formula why HE / SHE /IT didn't write it in His Bible? # Can God be atheist, governed by scientific laws? Have physicists found the God? I think, Yes. They have. =========.. The people created a God. No one knows what the external characteristics of this God are, a God who made himself known with the name " I am who I am ". Is it enough for us in the XXIc ? Why didn't the formula E=Mc^2 write in the Bible? ===============. . Each religion uses a system of symbols (images, metaphors, ancient myths and legends , beautiful stories) to explain its truth. But Bernard Shaw wisely remarked : " There is only one religion, although there are a hundred versions of it." It means that the source of all religion is one. And I try to prove this idea with the formulas and laws of physics. I don't invent new formulas. I use simple formulas which ,maybe, every man knows from school. Is it possible? Is it enough? Yes. Because the evolution goes from simple to the complex. So, in the beginning we can use simple formulas and laws. For this purpose I explain what the first law of Universe is, and second law is and ...........etc. Step by step I create a logical system of the Universe. === . Can God be atheist, governed by scientific laws? I think: Yes, of course. Why? Because if God exists, he would necessarily to work in an Absolute Reference Frame and have set of physical and mathematical laws to create everything in the Universe. And we can find and understand this Absolute God's House and we can find and understand Cod's Laws of the Nature. ============= . . If I were God, I would give chance to Human to understand who I am by analyzing the physical formulas, equations and laws. Because to create Everything I need them. So, logically, catching the thread of the physics Human can understand Me and My Work. ============== . Of course, it is only my opinion. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik. Socratus. =========
  25. Science and Religion: Is there a conflict? Or maybe: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. / Albert Einstein. / Or maybe: All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. / Albert Einstein. / # Science and Religion: Is there any conflict? Or maybe there isn't any conflict. Religion or Physics ? Faith or Knowledge ? Or maybe our stupidity asks these questions. === . S.
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