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  1. It's amazIng that when people actually start to read rather than follow like sheep, they realise what mahraaj is saying for themselves instead of following jathebandia rules and regulations.

    Well done sunny I dont expect much debate now that people have read what mahraaj has said.

  2. Don't know if you missed my post but as I said previously if listen to the katha of jap Ji sahib by Giani thakur you will have alot of insight into this and many other question I'm sure you have.

    You will understand the deep hatred why fanatical Hindus don't like Sikhs, the sikh dharam basically makes Hinduism extinct, but you will learn why and how also other religions are here, there was a quote by the Giani Ji that just because god sent one prophet with his message doesn't mean he message was complete, he had more to add thus sent further avatars with more knowledge. Obviously with some avatars coming here and getting caught in maya lost track and people started following the avatars instead of the almighty one who had created them, like the Krishna Vishnu etc Hindus worship them not the almighty one.

    The Giani goes on to say that they the avatars are also subject to dharam raja so how can they be the almighty ones and explains alot of very interesting knowledge that I gaurantee will answer your questions.

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    Sikh Man Stabbed at Fresno airport. Sikh Community in deep Shock

    Anup Singh, ex-SGPC(Sikh Parliament) prachark (preacher) stabbed at Fresno airport. His appearance as a Sikh was a key factor in making him a a target.

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    8th Dec 2011, Fresno, California: A 56 year old Sikh preacher, S. Anup Singh  was attacked by a 26-year-old white man named Mitchell Dufur at the Fresno airport earlier this week.  This terrifying incident has left the Sikh community in a shock.  According to the Fresno Police Department, a 56-year old Sikh man from India was seated near the Transportation Security Administration terminal waiting to board his plane when he was stabbed. There was no communication between the victim and the assailant. The Sikh traveller suffered a minor cut to his upper torso, and was treated at the airport prior to resuming his journey back to UK.

     UNITED SIKHS team spoke to a Fresno resident Bakhtawar Singh, an eyewitness to this fearsome incident who had gone to drop the victim, Anup Singh. Bhaktawar Singh said, “This young man came forward and lunged at Bhai Saheb, who donned an open flowing beard and hit him with a knife just below the collar bone.  Few minutes before the incident, I saw him going towards his bag and taking something out but I didn’t know that he was going to stab. I don’t sport a full flowing beard and don't look like the images being flashed on TV screens and this  may be the reason that I was spared”.

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  4. Jsingz, it was told we should learn all other religions first then come to our own to finally understand. You can be a Muslim and still follow Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

    The answer to all your questions gurdsingh are in jap Ji sahib. If you go to gurbaniupdesh.org you can listen to Giani Thakur singhs katha on jap Ji an I guarantee you will find your answers, the question you asked here is exactly what the sidhs of india asked Guru Nanak Ji mahraaj and jap Ji sahib was the answer.

  5. The topic started off with the bibi saying that more bibian should were dastaars to boost confidence etc, by giving a dirty body clean and fancy clothing doesn't make it clean, if you have a soul who is still working on his sikhi and is still prone to mistakes then he or she should refrain from wearing the dastaar to protects it izzat.

    Coming to my point, singnia that wear dastaara are pride of our panth but when someone who isn't ready for the dastaar and still wears it the negative effect is as high.

    For women who feel discriminated, should think that they are responsible for the soorme of the panth but when the woman does wrong they are also responsible for a stain that the panth will find hard to wash

  6. Its a hard choice where to put your dasvand but it's even harder to take dasvand out, main thing your taking the right step, do bent ardas to mahraaj and tell him to decide for you where best to put it, afterall his the one taking it out for you and giving in the first place.

    whatever you do dont put it in a golak you know that's just gonna get put into a saving account, put use to your money make it work

  7. Boys wearing a dastaar isn't optional it's mandatory, whereas girls have a choice, they might decide a turban dont suit me so a patka is fine, not all girls obviously but some. But this topic is going somewhere I'm just replying to your dastaar pat of it, yea it might be the case where you think twicebefore you doing any wrong but it doesn't mean they're singnia out there who think the same as you. I personally had to go to a singnia house to complain that our sehajdhari brothers are moaning of a singni chilling with the wrong kind getting in cars etc etc so I know why girls will get mist of the blame but it's the girls who hold alot more izzat of our panth. I mean how bout that girl (amritdhari)that supposedly nearly converted to islam, how bad is that it sent shockeaves through the whole world but if you catch an amritdhari boy who commits a kurehit it's not something that gonna shock you even though it might hurt initially.

  8. Yeh I too agree with idea of helping youth from your pend, get them into sikhi.

    Build a library or help the local school in buying books or computers with Internet connection to better there education, but with strings attached, ie there has to be a gurmat lesson a day etc.

    Or what we done was to upgrade our local granthi so he can teach kirtan santhia etc and just pay his monthly wage. Better still support Khalsa aid who support a variety of much needed seva

  9. Wearing or not wearing dastaar does not solve the problems of today. Not wanting to wear a dastaar is a problem in itself but not panth destroying.

    I don't think is fair to pressure girls into wearing dastaara as they have a whole load to deal with facial hair issues etc. And the idea you have that sikh girls with dastaar are good girls is laughable.

    Some wear a dastaar to be noticed, or it makes them look better not because of Maryada.

    The issues between girls and boys I do not know about, maybe because I don't interact with singnia at all, don't need to, therefore no problems arise.

    Maybe the sikh girls you are on about are the ones who are not keshdhari and are your regular indian punjabi girl who dates and gets into this mess which then makes the sikh panth look bad as she is from a sikh background but not actuallly practicing.

  10. Gurfateh Ji

    The Nanakshahi calendar is the one we go by right??

    Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can dates for 2012 as I have googled it and ive had varied results confusing me even more. Or better still just give me the dates for holla mohalla and Guru Nanaks Avtar please.

  11. I'm not giving loads I'm defending what is a direct attack on sikh channel, right or wrong ?

    Slander is false claims but what I say is well known maybe not on paper but nevertheless well agreed.

    If you can have freedom of speech let me have mine.

    And frankly I don't care if you finds what I say silly tu mera jaj lagaa ?

  12. The problem you have is that the smarter people are seeing the reality, reality is that two policeman guarded the front door of takhar travels, why not other agents that's reality.

    Reality again is that sikh channel reported the incident first and viewed the opinions of the people involved what's wrong with this it's showing the reality of what people are saying and feeling.

    Paranoia is why an agent or trustee of sangat tv is on sikhsangat trying to muster up support for this pointless channel because in reality you know you are decades behind sikhchannel and you just want find out about your status with the masses, that's paranoia.

  13. The problem you have is that the smarter people are seeing the reality, reality is that two policeman guarded the front door of takhar travels, why not other agents that's reality.

    Reality again is that sikh channel reported the incident first and viewed the opinions of the people involved what's wrong with this it's showing the reality of what people are saying and feeling.

    Paranoia is why an agent or trustee of sangat tv is on sikhsangat trying to muster up support for this pointless channel because in reality you know you are decades behind sikhchannel and you just want find out about your status with the masses, that's paranoia.

    The problem you have is that the smarter people are seeing the reality, reality is that two policeman guarded the front door of takhar travels, why not other agents that's reality.

    Reality again is that sikh channel reported the incident first and viewed the opinions of the people involved what's wrong with this it's showing the reality of what people are saying and feeling.

    Paranoia is why an agent or trustee of sangat tv is on sikhsangat trying to muster up support for this pointless channel because in reality you know you are decades behind sikhchannel and you just want find out about your status with the masses, that's paranoia.

  14. Mr aujla this thread needs to be closed down as it has backfired on you tactics and made you look very foolish. It's very cheesy (strong cheddar cheesy) that you have come on here to promote that you intact helped a guy who cost the average sikh thousands of pounds. Thaker travels is the only one who has been selling these cheap tickets because other professional agents did not trust the flight as thaker only cares about money he didn't care.

    If your blind mom was in the flight you would know the pain. Yes it's not entirely his fault but he was responsible for the purchase of tickets therefore accountable for it's problems.

    As for sangat tv, I'm pretty sure that one of your trustees was on the actual flight as sikh channel captured him coming of the flight with the other passengers, and we are not blind we did see that sikh channel did report it first and that's what counts according to your riots reporting fiasco a few months back. I hope sikh vision tv will put death to this pointless and political channel but it won't because of Indian government congressi backing.

  15. I'm not against the dudley rampage, I was there. Understand my point, the want a mass protest to cause a media frenzy to try and destroy the reputation of the commitee, and that's what dudley was. Yes it was beadbi what they were doing but it still continues today yet I don't see the sequel to the dudley protest why ? Because the current commitee was warned we can do this to you by the opposition and so they did. And now the opposition has what they want from dudley they will leave them alone.

    They're bigger forces at hand when it comes to gurughar politics only something I have learnt recently things we will never believe till we see for ourselves. The bigger forces have the youth by the you know what, and manipulate them how they please and the two things they know we are hit headed about are 84 and beadbi of any kind, so they use this as the fuel to burn there agendas.

  16. I would like to thank sikh channel for the inspirational programming it has bought me these past two weeks,

    From the raag kirtan darbar of manji sahib live, darbar sahib darshan during bandhi chorr divas live.

    Live katha and rehraas from takht Sri hazoor

    sahib and many occasions

    Smagam from Nanak cheera live

    Darshan of nanded live

    And now to top it off Sant baba mann singh Ji kirtan in Italy live on Dhan baba deep singh Ji shaheedi purab and

    Shri mann Bhai Balbir singh Ji shrimomani ragi from manji sahib again live

    I've probably missed loads but this is what I have seen please add and give credit where it is due VJKKVJKF

  17. These fabrication of lies is just another way of demeaning a committee so it loses support, I've seen happen at Stratford rd aswell when people turn and said that they are anti dasam and so on.

    It's just cheap tactics that they hope will inspire another dudley rampage.

    I won't argue that Warwick and lem are congressi but even they ain't stupid enough to come with a Akhand path for indira, where as I know gurughars in bham have done in 84!!!!

    To add if your gullible enough to believe a single word on panthic.org then good luck on your struggle.

    Also if a certain member of commitee has a view, then so be it you guys in lem voted him in you can vote him out instead labelling the entire gurughar as anti 84

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