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Could any one from AKJ or BABBAR UK please clarify if AKJ Coventry branch have merged in to TARMALA group ( sewa singh tarmala ) who claims to be brahm giani himself and issues brahm giani certificates. AKJ Coventry was the main base of AKJ uk.

As Ekpanth has mentioned its there in black and white. the gravesend giani beating incedent i believe took place on the 4th june 2011 and the videos i believe where made public on the 20th july 2011. In the video the giani is clearly stating that when some committe members smelt the breath of the giani that got beaten up they could not smell any alcohol, so between 4th june & 20th july 2011 there was no proof. The proof only came out when these videos were made public. In video part 2 at around 4:15 mark , it is clearly visible that the person who made this video and asking all the questions is a amritdhari sikh wearing a blue dumalla, open beard and wearing a simrana on his wrist and is clearly stating to the giani that if they needed to drink they should have come to his place and he is also the son of a giani from a london gurdwara. My question to Ekpanth and all those trying to exploit the gravesend gurdwara issue is , where do you stand NOW. Are you supporting those people who made those videos. the giani issue in gravesend is being dealt with by the gurdwara and the sangat and to ensure it does not happen again. As for your comment on khalistan and giani's drinking are clearly childish. As for the Babbars, they are one of the most inportant part of the panth and have sacrificed so much in our struggle, but a real Babbar does not go around boasting that he or she is a Babber, and as for doing it the proper way , i would not waste my time on you fake. My only concern is to stop malicious propaganda against the gravesend gurdwara and our sangat. Also i still need to know where Mr sanghera stands

what kind of proof is that "ask anyone in gravesend" what a fool this person is. having spoken to sewa singh about this, he is totally against the giani's and there misdeeds. The information on this forum about sewa singh is misleading and an indirect attack on the AKJ UK. He has stood for many like issues in the past and the sangat is aware of that. I keep on hearing that sewa singh is not supporting the singhs, WHAT singhs . one of them is a mona guy that beat the giani up, they have a history of all sorts of wrong doings. These so called singhs are NOT following the panthic maryada, they are followers of nabh kamal raja sahib, calling him satguru. Well known fact, ask anyone in gravesend or search google. This granthi problem could have been easily resolved, but It was an deliberate attempt to discredit the biggest gurdwara outside of india. Who the hell is Sanghera ? so called babbar supporting these people. I am also asking Avtar Singh Sanghera to explain where he stands i.e , is he with these people for personal gains or the panth. Sewa singh lalli is currently the assistant jathedar of AKJ UK. The AKJ do not tolerate this kind of misdeeds by giani's or anyone else in our gurdwara's . If you are not completely satisfied you can contact him directly. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

[sangat Ji Whoever wrote this topic seems to have his/her wires crossed as this topic is referring to a Granthi who was viciously beaten up in Gravesend Gurdwara by I can only assume thugs with allegations of the granthi having had alcohol. This was never proven and in fact he was found to NOT have been intoxicated when treated for his injuries at the hospital. The people who beat this defenceless man also STOLE the CCTV footage from the Gurdwara to hide their crimes for which they are being charged for (this has been confirmed by Gravesend Gurdwara Committee members). This new incident with the Granthi in these videos is very upsetting and disappointing to watch, as a member of the Sikh community I feel ashamed that these are out on the internet for the public to ridicule our Sikhi faith. Firstly it is wrong for the granthi to be speaking and acting in this way, however he is only human after all and I am sure there are plenty of people out there who are sharing their views and venting their anger at others with their “so called friends” behind closed doors. I say this as the people who this granthi must have been talking to must be close to him to get him to say the things he has. Instead of EDUCATING him or telling him he is WRONG they are encouraging him to eat meat or drink alcohol as heard in some parts of the video. Do the people around him drink or eat meat and also work in the Gurdwara? Was this a set up to destabilise the Gravesend Gurdwara committee yet again by people foaming at the mouth to take control? Questions for thought: 1. Where do Granthi eat meat or drink alcohol and with whom? 2. Would it be safe to assume that the people who attacked the first Granthi set up the second one in these videos? 3. What do we really know about the people who beat up the first Granthi or who made these videos? 4. Is it safe to say that now that the new Gurdwara is built that everyone wants a piece of the pie? 5. There is a personal reference to a Mr Seva Singh Lallie, however after making a few calls Mr Lalli has never been a member of the committee and nobody has called him to change any so called stance he is allegedly to have been taking. 6. Remember there is only 1 God and that is our beloved Guru Granth Sahib. I pay credit to all involved in making the new Gravesend Gurdwara the magnificent building it is. Before everyone jumps down peoples throats Sangat Ji please take a minute and think of what these videos or actions by certain individuals is doing to our community. IT’S SHAMING US NOT EDUCATING US. quote name=khalistan_zindabaad' timestamp='1311150642' post='505106] Evidence of Gravesend Gurdwara Sahib Granthi eating meat, drinkining alcohol and swearing, and also discussing corrupt officials in the committee Recently singhs beat this granthi up due to him drinking and sitting on tabia and doing a raul, later the commitee supported the granthi and went against the singhs and have threatened to take the singhs to court. Currently Seva Singh Lallie of Gravesend, Council of Khalistan, Babbar Khalsa, AKJ has openly supported the granthi knowing of his misdeeds, and is standing against the singhs. Even though members of panthic jathedbandi including akj have phoned him to change his stance, but he still is going against the singhs of the panth and supporting this person. Please watch the videos. Part 1 - discussing the corrupt commitee - admitting to drinking black label, etc Part 2 - Eating meat, alcohol Part 3 - Eating meat, alcohol