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hoe you possibly find , its difficult , the hymn is quite lengthy also ramkali dakhni is rare raag being sung these days

this morning I got the news that MR PHOOLKA HAS agreed to continue under directions from Akal Takhat that is a nice decision I think

mahan kosh by BHAI KAHAN SINGH NABHA & guru granth sahib darpan by prof sahib singh available at sgpc site in gurbani download section for some other books we may have to look into scribd , but books are available at Khalsa brothers amritsar & bhai chatar singh jeewan singh Amritsar

hindu mythology examples are taken in gurbani by guru sahib ji to explain the point of viewclearly, so whosoever does teeka is bound to describe these, further any new ideology takes influence from the existing ones , hence to explain our point of view the we can use examples from mythology or the folklore

Well, just for emphasizing our point over others we discuss a word far too long.We have to give respect to some person who is able to , and does guide us for attaining proximity to God , the Almighty , we have to use some word to respect him , what word one uses better leave it to him .Be it sant, mahapurush or some other , why waste our time in such trivialities and not do what we should - naam simran sorry if some one feels offended wjkk wjkf

blessed is the person in this world, who on his mouth has the name of god and war(with evil) in his mind The human body in destructible , not permanant so with these attributes(shown above) he rides the boat of good deeds to cross the sea of univerese and leads towards unison with the Almighty HE(such person ) has the weapon of Gyan in his hand to cut the cowardice ( & cleanup th emind )from the soul

till the start of 20 th century we do not see the term SANT added to any of the great sikhs , the term started in last century only

is there any prgramme of Amrit Sanchar and Q&A session on gurmat scheduled in the itin? thanx

1 - to understand real meaning , we should refer and imbibe meaning fully by reading and understanding the meaning of the rahao tuk as it is the central idea of the shabad all lines are extensions to clarify the meaning of the central idea . 2 When ever we read and try to understand gurbani , we should remember that it is expressed to motivate us towards prabhubhakti , hence all shabads are indirectly addressed to US , whether the lines say - sunahu ri loi, ri loi, kahu Nanak , sunahu man merey etc in the same vein the Bhagat ji is addressing really to us , the readers , that with serving and Listening to the teachings of the true sants shall we reach the Goal of our life

I suggest one downloads the teeka from SGPC site here is the link http://www.sgpc.net/downloadsection.html

It is very easy to drift away from the main topic of discussion, the topic is is it proper to do kirtan with dharnas - and I see ppl fighting over word SANT I REUEST EVERY BODY TO PLEASE express views about the main question and plz do not start slandering the ppls (with whom we donot have common views ) Yes we have been listening shabads with Dharnas , even 40 ysr ago in prabhat feris , then some did kirtan in a style called Jottiya de shabad where each line was recited twice with dholki and cheines to accompany - another prabhat feri style . Then we have ragis singing in simple tunes , singing in semi classical and pure classical and also in shudh raags there are many styles , even during my tour to south india I came across a ragi jatha who have trained very well in carnatic(south indian style ) music and they sang shabads in such a good manner that even local south indians listened them with full attention . In sikhi ( as I think ) kirtan is a way to reach in unison with the God , it is a way not the Manzi l(the aim) , So any style which leads us towards Guru & finally with almighty is proper. We can adopt any style to our liking , till it leads to our aim

plz add 800by bkb23 fateh *waheguru waheguru waheguru, added jeo *

plz listen t following link , very interesting a jago by kuldeep manak

PLZ ADD 1000 BY BKB23 *waheguru waheguru waheguru, added to the khajana jeo *

ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਿਤਸ ਕੇ ਚਰਨ ਪਖਾਲੈ ਜੋ ਹਿਰ ਜਨੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਜਾਿਤ ਸੇਵਕਾਣੁ THIS IS THE EXACT LINE AND HERE IS THE MEANING AS PER FGURU GRANTH SAHIB DARPAN BY PROF SAHIB SINGH JI HEY BROTHER , DAAS ( SEWAK) NANAK WASHES ( wishes to ) FEET OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE SERVANTS OF ALMIGHTY AND ARE HIS BHAGATS , EVEN IF HE BY CASTE IS CONSIDERED NEECH ( LOW CASTE OR LOWLY OF LOW CASTES ) hy mn! ijs mnu`K dy ihrdy ivc prmwqmw Aw v`sdw hY, auh mnu`K hor sBnW mnu`KW nwloN au~cw ho jWdw hY, su`cw ho jWdw hY [ (hy BweI!) dws nwnk aus mnu`KW dy crn DoNdw hY, jyhVw pRBU dw syvk hY pRBU dw Bgq hY, BwvyN auh jwqI vloN nIc hI (igixAw jWdw) hY [4[4[

THIS IS A RAAG TO BE SUNG AT NOON AS PER CLASSICAL BOOKS , GANDHAR TYPE GRAH SUR GANDGAR, VAADI PANCHAM , SAMVADI MADYAM, WITH SHADAJ , RISHAB MADYAM PANCHAM & NISHAD SHUDH, GANDHAR & DHAIVAT KOMAL SARGAM - SAA RE MA MA PA DHA SAA DHA NA PA MA GA MA RE SAA ACTUALLY THE WORD GOND IS NAME OF TRIBE NATIVE OF CENTRAL INDIA BUT THE RELATION BETWEEN TRIBE AND THE RAAG HAS NOT BEEN FOUND BY ME ANYWHERE

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i feel they have archived hukamnama (to be more appropriate , furmans ) from DARbar sahibs with explanations and commentary , datewise that is a nice service, donation is voluntary , maintaining site or blogger and daily updating requires some resources , so what is bad in expecting voluntary contributions ? PRAYER SERvices are organised by almost all faiths online and on bOX SO IT IS OK IF DONE HERE, IF ONE DOES NOT LIKE THE PAID PRAYERS even I myself find it unacceptable , why should we resist , if it helps in bringing people to the faith In the end let every one do the Sewa his own way , and we do our way thanx, sorry to those who feel my views offending FATEH

its such a sea of posts , can U mention the exact link to see the kind of remarks which are offending thanks

were they ready to fight as do or die, 84 would not have happened they are all pack of cowards and blot on Sikhi

best rendition is from Baljeet SINGH KOOKA

why do we forget that our faith does not approve the concept of avtaars at many places in gurbanis the so called avtaars have been proved to be as human as we . the idea of the avtaar kathas in dasam granth is only to acquain us about the tenets of hinduism only (for comparative purpose ) . We should not draw ourselves into it , We are the worshippers of the Supreme powewr only thanks , sorry if someone feels offended , but the facts wont change FATEH