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6 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Just don't make the same blunder as Bhai Jugraj Singh of debating & hurting sentiments of Muslims.

2 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Ask a doc to give you an estimate of how long back could have the cancer cells developed in Bhai Jugraj Singh's body.

Bhai Jugraj Singh Ji, told it as it was from Sikhi perspective. He told 100% truth. What are you implying, huh?

All the dawah guys -Imran, Hamza, Ali, Mohamed, Musa etc. Had respect for Bhai sahib, just watch the debates.

What are you alluding? Bhai sahib never disrespected any faith. Have you heard of Tommy Robinson, Alex Jones, Rebel Media? Question - what about these guys on social media? They are out right insulting Islam and have been for years. They appear fit and healthy. Pls don't fall for stupid YouTube videos claiming look what happens to people debating Islam.

Akal warrior if you are OK that the producer said that guru Nanak Dev Ji probably didn't wear a dastar and you have seen the video on page one and still support this film stick to the other review thread you have... I don't want a debate here on this thread sikh sangat members majority are against this film. If you wish to support it use your other thread I won't comment there anymore and we will stick here to discuss the places where this film has been banned and still needs to be banned.

My understanding was that Guru Nanak Dev Ji wore the Seli Topi.

Just to clarify they are not REAL brother/sister, just said they are.... Yeah clubbing, drinking, etc. not good.

point was to clarify was it tax was it price of gas what is it ? Am I wrong or were we told to follow the law of the land if just ...if mandirs churchs etc get tax-free status then OK I understand that request to have same status ... but the way it was presented was just requesting a subsidy ...and that would be definitely objectionable i want our gurudwarey free of external influence , besides chardavah is in the lakh crodhes do we need to do this ? when SGPC can easily steal 30 crodh from Guru ji by selling lands and no noise is made why this?? it shows us a kaum as incompetent, and beggars

The price of gas would be effected by the tax?

Mandir, church etc. langar chalondeh? Let me break it down for you, the gas (which is not the only fuel used in cooking langar), used to be taxed at domestic rates, now the gas purchased is being taxed at a commercial rate. When you eat langar, is there a menu? Are u charged? Commercial = commerce I.e. You SELL A PRODUCT!!!!! How can that be? Are we selling langar at a profit?

what is the commercial rate please and are we not consuming at the rate of a business ? is it right to expect subsidy then ? we should pay correctly I don't need favours from people who would have us regulated to the pages of history

Haha! Your comment is ludicrous, just admit when your point of view is wrong.

I doubt there is a single kitchen on planet earth which consumes on the scale of Guru Ka Langar. My 5 year old knows the definition of a commercial business..... Never ever will Guru Ji's langar be a commercial enterprise...

Can't win with some, if you actually understood the context, I bet you would be amongst the first to object. As it would be wasting sangat's chravah, if unnecessarily paying tax on something that they do not need to. In fact Guru Ka Langar, all taxable items should be tax free...

We all know those Sikh missionaries in Punjab aren't up too no good especially Gurmat Gian Missionary in Ludhiana where (dhunda,ghagga came out of). Someone should make a list of actual Sikh missionaries around the world so we can tell them from the fake ones.

Here's any idea, how about people stop jumping to conclusions. Instead use that time and energy and make an effort to learn about who they want to slander. All you have to do is type in Google and start from there.

Alternatively Singh I nominate you to carry out this seva, as after reflecting it makes a lot of sense to have such a list.

now i know the reason

Please share the reason.

Totally unrelated but have you any knowledge of Sikh Missionary Society UK? I understand the are gurmat organisation, I have been there many times.

Ummh, I think I stated in the first page of this post, he can't accuse you of being racist as Singh is not a race. Please refer back to my post. Yes Jagsaw Singh is correct in UK only Sikh and Jews are a race /religion, but my lawyer friends will know just Singh surname does not imply you are a Sikh. Possibly it can be assumed someone with Singh as surname is Sikh, but not all Singh are Sikh, but all Sikh are Singh. Hindus used Singh many centuries prior to GuruSahibhan.

Guys trying to look cleaver by answering questions with advanced google searches spending umpteen hours, it's quite clear some posters have no clue what they are on about, I can pm for example, no need to spoil the forum.

Do we have any members from New Zealand here? Oh just remembered I know of one JSinghnz who always asks people in UK what they have done about issues. just recently about discussions on BBC Asian Network and asking members about participating in debates or what else they did. Well Singh you have a chance to shine, to do something practical as in the Christmas tree thread you are against Sikhs celebrating Christmas by having a tree and buying the kids presents. But look at this Sikhs in NZ in the Christmas parade wishing merry Christmas and also doing jaikareh! Singh please keep us posted with the results of the action you took to educate theses guys, I hope there kids don't end up messed up and confused marrying non Sikhs.

Bani should be in Gurmukhi, but anything else should be in the language of the area, for example the article refers to DSGPC, and is referring to New Delhi so Hindi is fine why should it have been in Gurmukhi? I mean using that logic we should not post in English on this Sikh forum and everything should be in Gurmukhi!

So Sikhs in western countries celebrating Christmas is only done because of Children? so should Sikh parents who live in overwhelmingly Hindu majority areas of India like UP/Bihar etc, should they start celebrating Janamastmi and Navratri and other Hindu holidays because they dont want their children to be left out? or Sikhs in Islamic countries should start celebrating Eid or even Mawlid because they don't want their kids to be left out of the celebrations of Muslims? No wonder so many of our kids in the west grow up confused and end up marrying non Sikhs.

Paaji, you have a habit of reading a post taking it out of context and then putting your own spin on it and start asking random questions.

Please oh please answer this I have asked many times but everyone just ignores my question which is - we celebrate Bandi Chor Divas for 6th patshah good deeds in realising political prisoners from Gwalior. But why did Guru Amar Dass Ji state Sikhs should gather twice a year At Diwali and Vaisakhi, again which we now celebrate due to 10th patshah and 1699. what was the reason then?

So Sikhs in western countries celebrating Christmas is only done because of Children? so should Sikh parents who live in overwhelmingly Hindu majority areas of India like UP/Bihar etc, should they start celebrating Janamastmi and Navratri and other Hindu holidays because they dont want their children to be left out? or Sikhs in Islamic countries should start celebrating Eid or even Mawlid because they don't want their kids to be left out of the celebrations of Muslims? No wonder so many of our kids in the west grow up confused and end up marrying non Sikhs.

No I never said that, I referred to it as the discussion highlighted the connection and so therefore I commented on it.

Now be honest how many of you guys celebrate New Year on Jan 1st? Like will many of you see the new year in at Gurdwara Sahib? I think many members here do but I expect to hear no we don't, we don't go to Gurughar on 31st and see in 1st Jan and celebrate the new year as it will confuse my kids to celebrate something which has its origins in another faith. Those that do will marry a non Sikh. Also at this time of year due to all the sacrifices our shaheeds made we shouldn't.

So j Singh do you have children!

Edit ? Not !

Sad to hear about your tightness and habit of buying Christmas gifts for your putt.

Sorry, but I had difficultly interpreting that? So To clarify I am being tight by buying present for my kids? I know in New Zealand they speak English, so makes no sense? Also is that the only thing You could pick up and comment on?

If you stated your name as X Singh when you took the call, he can't say you were racist towards him. I think you can't be racist against your own, can you? Also Singh is his surname on account so how did he come to the conclusion, as Singh is not a race. Punjabi/Sikh is a race but legally Singh is not. But I think you need to involve your Union ASAP.

Question - do the anti Christmas tree jatha aka let's ruin Christmas for my putt cos I'm too tight to buy presents, also disagree with Christmas cards?

As I presume you don't buy cards for your kids to give to their friends but how do you explain to them it's manmatt to accept cards your school friends have given you? Don't even accept them and just throw them back in their faces as it is forbidden, cos you will have issues when you grow up, as your faith in Sikhi will be corrupted.

ਯਾਰ ਤੂੰ ਤਾਂ ਹੱਤ ਧੋਕੇ ਪਿਛੇ ਹੀ ਪੈਗਿਆ.

Okay I agree with you. Chaar Sahibzaade is an extremely anti Gurmat movie and Preet Didpal's victory as council member is the greatest victory for Sikhs since the battle of Sirhind. ਹੁਣ ਕੁਸ਼

Paaji, I am sorry to have responded to you in the way I did. It's no excuse but some people on here a wind up merchants and I fall for it every time and entertain them. I need to work on this.

Now there is no need to be facetious. I never said anything bad about the movie! Just trying to make you look at your opinion in the same context. The movie is in no shape or form anti gurmat, but it is funded and made by patits. Just trying to show you not only Gursikhs are capable of good deeds for the faith.

I responded to your post in adult fashion, why do people on this forum have to lower the tone TRYING to be sarcastic?

Like seriously do you talk like a retard, as any English, speaker of English to say woman, they will say womun, which auto text will type as women

again you use insults that are subjective I.e your opinion. Very good example and role model of a Sikh, especially in New Zealand where there are not many. So thanks to you kiwis will think Sikhs are like you.

I use an app to talk which types the text, so if amereekaans can not understand English in an English accent, we'll there maybe typos . Sorry Singh but I will give proper response when I have time. Only thing you could pick up on was a typo? One letter incorrect? Wow great gursikh role model you will be for next generation, calling people names for that.

Singh Station you write an article severely criticizing a Gurmat movie like Chaar Sahibzaade for no reason what so ever yet you take pride in a patit woman that has been elected as city council member?

Another example of your utter lack of knowledge of basics of Sikhi.

And also raises serious concerns about you claiming having done your Masters when

you do not even know that we are discussing a "woman" here and not "this women."

A women would mean we did not know! But uh ohh re read the thread so we have a name. So this women, in the thread would mean the women named. Again fail.

A sikh who has not taken amrit also can become patit. Any Sikh who cuts hair is a patit.

Clearly she cuts hair to fit in with the western mindset.

How can you be a Sikh if you have not taken Amrit? I thought you can not be born into Sikhi! You become a Sikh by taking Amrit.

cutting of kesh is one of the 4 major sins for a Sikh. Being Amritdhari or not is no excuse for committing those sins. If she's not amritdhari does that mean it is okay for her to eat meat, use drugs or tamakoo or fornicate which are the other 3 major sins? if not than why is cutting hair okay for her?

I would not have commented on this issue. But seeing how it is Singh Station posting this as if he is proud of her, yet he made such a big deal by unnecessarily criticizing Chaar Sahibzaade, a movie which touched everyone who saw it. From that I thought that maybe he must have been a super strict type Singh or something but then he surprises me when shows he is proud of a woman of Sikh background who is clearly a committer of one of the Bajjar Kurahits.

Please refer to my earlier response.

Meat eating? How do you know? even when the rehit maryada does with definitive answer but you do! Meat is not forbidden only in some peoples eyes and off course this forum.

Another example of your utter lack of knowledge of basics of Sikhi.

And also raises serious concerns about you claiming having done your Masters when

you do not even know that we are discussing a "woman" here and not "this women."

Please explain? Makes no sense, as I was referring to the women in the thread. Please do explain as in England, the origin of the English language, it was grammatically correct.

BTW yes I have a MSc, what year did you graduate? You will know by my qualification that you can not reprimand me on the odd grammatical mistake as I do not hold. MA.

Btw quoted post, very egotistical of yourself to state someone is thick. That is your subjective opinion, whereas to prove someone's lies by objectively referring to their posts and highlighting they lie is different.

Proven me a liar, really, when did you do that? You do not even how to comprehend simple posts and go about making up statements that I am a student in a school or something.

Just proves how thick you are and how difficult it is for you to understand what is written.

HOW DARE YOU STATE THAT OUR GURU JI JOINED AND MARCHED WITH MOGHUL FORCES.

Bahadur Shah pleaded for Guruji's help in his war of succession against his brother Muhammad Azim.

DO NOT EVER DARE TO DISTORT SIKH HISTORY.

I was not referring to this. But as you bought it up, bhadur shah begged for assistance which Guru Ji obliged. So re read the post I quoted. Your Fourth line to be exact. re read the posts you made, don't try to squirm out.