KhalistaniGunMan

i dont even know why topics like this begin...like really nihangs care what someone behind a keyboard thinks

some of these last comments are hillarious...seriously some of these modern jathas are nutty

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_{nidar the fake nihang has been booted out of most gurdwara's in west midlands, i think he still teaches at namdhari akhara in birmingham.}

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shastar vidya is also taught at sheperds bush gurdwara...i will be attending their classes soon..and advise anyone interested in the local vicinity to attend also

Just like at hazoor sahib, I have no problem with sri dasam granth being parkash side by side of sri guru granth sahib ji as clearly distinction is being made - sri guru granth sahib ji is slighty higher than sri dasam granth sahib. That distinction is good enough for me, if someone has further sanka they can take their inchi tape and measure the palki at hazoor sahib to clear their sansa..but don't expect hazoori singh's and nihang singhs to get rid of this seena basina puratan maryada and bend over backwards- just to please some ferengi protestant anti dasam heretics, these heretics already stopped sri dasam granth parkash at sri darbar sahib....you give these goons a arm they want whole body.!!!!!

Neither side have right to either a) enforce sri dasam granth sahib parkash to all panth b) equally sikhs don't have right to make attempts to stop sri dasam granth sahib already being parkash at ithasik takhts, nihang dals for centuries..!!!!!!

History is a witness, these ferengi anti dasam heretics always try to stop sri dasam granth sahib being parkash than former..!!!

if for a moment anyone thinks nihang dals will give up prkaash of sri dasam and sri sarbloh then they are seriously deluded...hazur sahib will not change its maryada for anyone including SGPC

If Guru Gobind Singh Ji had 52 kavis in his Great court, why did Guru Gobind Singh Ji have to send people to banares to learn sanskrit?

bro how can you compare kavis(poets/translators) to scholars of traditional indic philosophy, medicine, literature, spiritual sciences etc of which benares was the HQ...its the difference between just merely translating sanskrit to actually understaning it, also having access to huge quantities of traditional indic spiritual literature, ..the nirmale were created to ensure khalsa never had to rely on bhramins for access to indic scriptures....and its essential we are well versed in traditional hindu scriptures because most if not all concepts/sakhis originated from those granths...dont cut off your nose to spite your own face

. How can he be trusted to give an opinion on Guru Sahibs bani?

Because he along with few other akaalis had deep understanding and knowledge of sri sarbloh granth..thanks to him it is becoming available to the panth today in english...the treasured sarbloh bani which was hidden away in the fauj is finally coming out to the masses...that in itself is great seva

The Guru title is only and only for SGGS jee. Baba Gurbachan Singh too only used the title "DASAM GURU" Granth---->Granth of the 10th Guru.

If you idolize misled people's innovated maryada in Nanded, then perhaps you are also a jhatka lover and marijuana pujari. Then on my behalf it pointless talking to you. At least such manmat in not prevalent in Patna Sahib.

gosh! to many snatan minded people here compared to few years ago

Innovated misled maryada at sri hazur sahib ? LOL....maryada of nihang singhs at hazur sahib is in line with sri aad guru granth, sri dasam granth, sri sarbloh granth, puraatan hukamnamas, rehitnamas, itihaasik granths , non sikh historical accounts and oral tradition of akaali nihangs tracing itsself back to guru gobind singh ji himself....the only thing innovated is your interpretation of sikh'ism'...sri guru gobind singh jis writings(sri dasam granth, sri sarbloh granth) are gurbani...the quicker you get used to it the better...anything that has come from the hands or mouth of the guru sahib is considered gurbani and should be respected as such

Histroy of Ashtbhuja Dhuja , Personal Battle Standard of Sri Akaali Guru Gobind Singh Ji

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http://www.hazoorsahib.com/index2.php?Itemid=474

Dhan Dhan Mata Sahib Kaur jee

i dont know what to think of this...has the christian missionaries agenda for india been compromised and infiltrated by hindus and sikhs who claim to be christian but are just using same mannerisms and traditions from their old religions or is this a more dangerous scenario demonstrating the missionaries have adapted to the culture and spiritual norms of india ...the same thing the sufis did to bring in more converts...the christians have basically copied them..

I just read this from a singhs post on facebook...cant say if its true or not....but definately worrying

• Sewadars working with conversion cases confirm: 15 reported cases of Sikh girls in last 2 months.

• Committee member confirms: 40% of Gurdwara weddings now inter-faith.

• Wedding Venue Manager: hall in Birmingham confirm 4 sikh girl/Sullah weddings in last few months.

siege of amritsar 1984??...

The Christian films are more historical, they're stories of Jesus. The other rehearsed shows are almost like really bad British soaps with an actual Punjabi family that is filmed in their houses.

They're a very cunning bunch. Ive even seen them even do giddha and sing boliyan in the studio, i cant remember which festival they were celebrating.

Ive been monitoring Glory TV channel for a while...the lies of the missionaries is hillarious...funny how they always link their past dharam or traditions in with satan/demonic powers...some of their shows are amusing...but on a serious note..the amount of aunitya from sikh backgrounds on the channel is an issue...

I'm happy about that, I guess I'm just in a cranky mood.

you americans are always cranky...you need to be relaxed like us englandees are :cool2:

Not a very useful comment. You did not comment on the efficiency of the gatra strap either.

It doesn't matter if you don't think I'm a Sikh. As long as Guru ji is happy I'm happy.

Bro drop the gatra..its useless...singhs used to woear kamar kassa...the weapon is secure and can be unsheathed quickly and efficiently...gatra is for people who see the sri sahib as a symbol..kamar kassa is for those who see it as a practical weapon..the way maharaj intended

Well that depends what you defining as hocus pocus? How much of hocus pocus is too much to take them off from Gurmat marg completely or too much to against Gurmat? its not black and white issue and also whats their intention behind that hocus pocus?

One has to remember they do lot of inter faith sessions and mingle with lot of non sikhs and one also have to remember they came into sikhi through these hocus pocus sessions i.e- sumer solstice, earth day, winter solstice, yoga camps, earth day, go crazy concert etc..hocus pocus are used to attract crowd..i don't think its big deal if they understand the bigger picture- Gurmat which is meditating on mantras within Gurbani. We gotta look at the bigger picture.

I don't want to sway from the topic but we as punjabis have also reduced beautiful sargun rituals practicses in our dharam to pure dogma by wrapping our head around it. How's their hocus pocus any different from our dogmatic notions of sargun rituals in sikhi?

i agree isnt matha tek hocus pocus?...or standing up for ardas?...or even covering your head and taking off shoes?....you really need to be careful otherwise you will start rejecting symbolic ritual found within sikh practice...not everything you define as hocus pocus is negative

pre singh sabha..the jathedar of akaal takht was also the jathedar of bhudda dal..the two were intertwined

I have seen Kishori Lal in pics in some news papers earlier (long time ago), is the man in the centre Kishori Lal? Just wondering, if he is in Video in the centre, has he been released for these tasks?

Krishori Lal is in the video?...which one is he?

if these shiv sena bandars do begin attacking sikhs unprovoked...what options do sikhs of the west have ??

Sikhs in Punjab need to all become shastardhari, but you can't give a sheep a shastar because they'll get scared just at the sight of it.

like i said some time back...the movement will be fuelled by singhs from the west...things are just tht bad among sikhs in punjab...its best we dont go down the armed route unless provoked...lets keep on this legal route, use media and specifically social media to spread the message...it must be working because the indian government actually fears diaspora sikhs now

I think WestLondon Singh makes a good point..you are underestimating these bandars...lets not forget just a decade ago they killed thousands upon thousands of muslim gujaratis ..in the 21st century!....the sikhs are weaker than they were in 1980s...i think these threats are very real...all i can advise my brothers to do is...to empower you mind, body and soul..dont make the same mistakes we made before...lets make the facist hindutva forces look like the radicals...be calm in your responses

The Hindus adopted and accepted the name. No such word Hindu is written anywhere in the books of the hindus. Prior to muslim invasion there was only the word brahmanism.

Brahmanism?...that term was created by the firangi...the original term is sanatana dharma ...sanatana dharma predates modern 'hinduism'...the original dharma followed by humankind for thousands of years...which has been revived by sri guru nanak dev ji maharaj in kaliyuga

And bro you seriously have to stop quoting max arthur...really shows our inferiority complex when we have to quote a firangi in service of the british crown which pillaged, raped and plundered our kingdom ..

I hate jatts too....they are too good at bhangra

interesting to note alcohol isnt a new thing for sikhs...there are accounts of singhs in ranjits army being very excessive drinkers...but it being acceptable in terms of gurmat is a total different matter... historically though there is no doubt alcohol was consumed by sikhs