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KhalistaniGunMan

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  1. they sell sarbloh granth steek in some book shops, but if you want a saroop of sri sarbloh granth, you need bhudda dals permission i believe
  2. define intoxicant? read puraatan granths...it will open your eyes...make sure you read them with a open mind and dont let these do-gooders tell you its fake and wrong before you even read them...thats the mistake i made
  3. daily mail is gutter news..for bigots, racists and self hating gays who haven't come out about their sexuality
  4. ashtbhuja is not mentioned just like sri sarbloh granth isnt mentioned in historical sources...because they were hidden within the dal...things which were well guarded and never allowed to fall into enemy hands because of their importance...the original ashtbhuja of guruji is still kept at sri hazur sahib like you said
  5. yes your partially right...but general sikh units in lahore army also carried standards with chandi/kalka on them...also Kartikeya (shiv jis son) is also found on many standards as he was the commander of the army of devte....dont mix this up with worship....sikhs dont worship devte..but we used their heroic personalities as inspiration in battle....the akaalis used to carry traditional neela nishan of tegh, katar and shield but the most important standard was the ashtbhuja ...the personal standard of guru gobind singh ji...which is pictured in my display pic...
  6. i am not obcessed with hindu mythology...but i am obcessed with sikh history...i dont like the fact history is being whitewashed just because its distasteful to a segment of the community... which battle is that account from?...chillianwala? sabroan?.....later battles we had to rely soley on our irregular cavalry who were famed for their gung-ho frontal charges...
  7. i dont think thats sri dasam granth...i think its from suraj parkash
  8. actually nearly all accounts ive read from that time period describe the standard of horse used by singhs as low...you have to understand singhs were masters of guerilla warfare...hit and run tactics....so when the kingdom started training a conventional army based on european standard...the infantry and artillery was given priority early on..the cavalry was ignored for a long time...with sikhs relying on the irregular gorcharra cavalry or on the cavalry of the jagirdars ...even though the sikhs did have lancers trained in european cavalry discipline...they were being trained too late...they were too few in number...so by the time we started the war with the bitish..our cavalry could not match theirs...it was a irregular, ill equipped, ill disciplined cavalry..who knew only how to hit and then run....you can never match top quality cavalry of that time..especially the well trained, well equipped cavalry of the british with such tactics...which is why the infantry and artillerry were primarily used in the battles against british...with cavalry only being used defensively to cover flanks...to scout....or to cut down wounded and retreating troops our infantry was probably equally on par with that of the british...both well equipped and both well disciplined..but our artillery outmatched that of the bitish...which they even admitted...our cannon outnumbered theirs...and they were also more powerful and bigger..our artillerymen were all above 6ft, well muscular...a british officer described them as being beasts...who would protect the cannon till the end with such ferocity...the rate of our cannon was also higher which only demonstrates good training...at the battle of mudki the british at first were so thoroughly defeated that they began burning up important document and were preparing for unconditional surrender...but our general was bought...and failed to attack...allowing enough time for british to retreat...after that it all went down hill with the exception chillianwala jung
  9. interesting to note cannons used by the Sikh army had frescos of Hanuman on them,,,interesting Yes sikhs had the premier army in the whole of asia....this was before the rise of japan as a millitary power....The infantry and artillery were up to the standards of the british...but the cavalry was below par....never matched the british...poorly trained and poorly disciplined but still put up a good fight mainly due to the tenacity of the sikh soldier. The biggest weakness we had was our terrible leadership with the exception of a few etc Sham singh attari....we lost because our millitary leadership had been bribed before the war even began...not much has changed
  10. make sure you do the full chapuai sahib not the shortened one..
  11. abit of research i found out that jagat singh was not an ex serviceman of the sikkh raj because he was born 40 years after it....however it raises questions...what did all the disbanded units of the army of the sikh raaj do after the fall of the kingdom?...did they enter service of the various sikh principalities and british or did they turn to crime
  12. just read this on the comments page... 'Jagga Daku's original name was Jagat Singh.. he was probably a high ranking officer during Sikh Raj. Then 1849 after British Conquest of Punjab, most of the Sikh soldiers of Sikh Raj were disbanded. As a result most of these unemployed Sikh soldiers turned dacoits. If you check the records of British Rule almost all the dacoits in Central Punjab from 1850s to 1870s were Sikhs and ex-soldiers of Sikh Raj.' can anyone verify this?
  13. ive lost all respect for mann when he started forming links with dirty missionaries...anything he writes now i view as garbge
  14. Veer i will trying finding out the date from a few singhs...From what i know it is acknowledged and commemorated in the calendar year of the dal...but not outside the dal...most likely because people dont know...and the ones who do know... for beliefs and jathebandi reasons dont want to acknowledge and accept shaheedi of akaalis A question was actually put forward that the remains should be dug up and cremated...i have no idea if there will be an attempt to retrieve the remains...but i hope there is...atleast then the shaheedi of these singhs can be proven and a memorial can be set up
  15. Didnt i tell you to get yourself sorted out...your blatant hatred and dislike for nihangs is unhealthy...i suggest you see a doctor about it if you call this a lie....please tell me how a akaali fauj numbering in the tens of thousands dwindled to low as a few hundred nihangs in the space of a few decades...if they were not hunted down and persecuted...please tell me how they become a powerful force to facing extinction.... read coloner steinbachs account on nihaangs and how he loathed them and wished for their extinction...what do you think he told the british to do when he switched sides?...practically all accounts written in that time frame from westerners is of dislike for the akaalis...they were hated because they were the only group who would not tolerate the firangi... This was an honest post about the memeory of jathedar baba hanuman singh ji...and you have to come on here in an attempt to destroy his legacy and put his name in the mud...clear off if you have nothing positive to say
  16. According to the Budha Dal Steek on Sarbloh Granth: Bhavani (the fericous form of Parbati, Shivji's consort, also known as Durga, Bhagauti) here is noted as "Paida karan vali shakti", meaning, that She is the Creative (that which gives birth) Energy of the Universe. Maya Laxmi (Vishnu's consort) is noted as "Paalnaa karan vali Shakti", meaning She is the Nourishing/protecting Energy of the Universe. The Steek talks about how these Devi's represent Guna's (qualities) of Vahiguru. Taken from Sikh Reality's blog
  17. true but heart of sikhi will always be punjab..we have too much history there...
  18. Dal panth was seperated into two groups...Tarnal Dal and Bhudda dal...bhudda dal was essentially the governing body and all dals/battalions accepted their authority... Baba Hanuman Singh ji was jathedar of the Bhudda Dal...he was jathedar of the whole panth at one time...following the jathedari of akaali phoola singh...its a shame the average sikh doesnt even know who he was ... All misls were Tarna Dal and Tarna dal fell under Bhudda Dal's control...Misl Shaheedan was the dal of Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji who was a jathedar within Tarna Dal... Modern day Taksalis are basically an offshoot of Tarna Dal Misl Shaheedan..at one time they were one and the same... Apologies for any mistakes
  19. Jathedar Baba Hanuman Singh Ji Shaheed Fresco of Baba Hanuman Singh Ji at Gurdwara Baba Atal Rai, Amritsar Akaali Baba Hanuman Singh Ji, The 7th leader of the Budha Dal, was born to Baba Garja Singh Ji and Mata Harnam Kaur Ji in November 1755. Baba Ji fought in many great battles under the leadership of Akaali Baba Naina Singh Ji and Akaali Baba Phula Singh Ji (the 5th and 6th Jathedars of Budha Dal). After the Shaheedi of Akaali Phula Singh Ji at Naushera in 1823, Baba Hanuman Singh Ji became the leader of the Akaali Nihangs, as well as the Jathedar of Akaal Takht Sahib at the age of 68 years old. Akaali Baba Hanuman Singh Ji’s tenure as Jathedar of the Sikh nation came as the Panth was experiencing a very critical time. The Maharaja of the Punjab, Ranjit Singh died from stroke complications, his successors were murdered, the treacherous Dogra’s sold out the Lahore Darbar to the British, and the British were planning on annexing the Punjab. Trusted Sikh general Sardar Sham Singh Attari came to the city of Amritsar and approached Jathedar Hanuman Singh for assistance against the British. Meeting at the Akaal Takht, Sham Singh said to Baba Hanuman Singh “Baba Ji, I wish to fight against the British, but have no army. I have no more then myself and my sons.” Baba Ji replied “Oh Singh Ji, who does this Akaali fauj belong to, if not to the Sikh nation.” During the battle of Sabroan, Sardar Sham Singh Ji and many Sikh warriors received martyrdom fighting the British soldiers, inflicting huge losses to the invaders. Baba Hanuman Singh Ji and the remaining Singhs went to camp out in the Sikh Princely state of Patiala. The King of Patiala, Maharaja Karam Singh upon receiving word that the knights of the Guru were camped out in his state, out of fear of retribution for his support to the British, Karam Singh informed the British of the whereabouts of the Jathedar and Sikh army. Baba Ji and the Sikh soldiers were surrounded by the British and their Sikh cohorts, the Princes’ of Patiala, Jind, Faridkot and other traitors. The British army and their Sikh stooges opened up cannon fire on the Sikhs. 15,000 Sikhs attained martyrdom at the spot where Gurdwara Dukh Niwaran now stands in the district of Patiala. Budha Dal oral tradition states that 32,000 Singhs became shaheed during this battle. Leader of the Sikh army, Jathedar Baba Hanuman Singh Ji and around 500 Nihang warriors survived this attack, and continued to fight the heavy cannon fire of the British, with swords, bows and arrows, axes and matchlock fire. Finally after running out of gun powder and watching thousands of Sikh warriors achieve shaheedi, the brave Jathedar of the Guru’s beloved Khalsa, Akaali Baba Hanuman Singh Ji died fighting for the freedom of the people of Punjab at the age of 90. After the martyrdom of Baba Hanuman Singh, Akaali Baba Prehlada Singh Ji became the 8th leader of the Akaali Nihang Singh Khalsa. The British implemented a shoot to kill order on the Nihang Singhs, and Baba Prehlada Singh left for the holy Takht Sahib at Nander to regroup the Akaali army. The few remaining Nihang Singhs, left with Baba Ji towards Hazoor Sahib, or moved camp to the jungles of Punjab and Rajputana to preserve the heritage of the Guru’s army. Gurdwara Sohana Sahib Ji located in the Mohali district of Punjab, was built on the shaheedi asthan (place of martrydom) of Baba Hanuman Singh Ji, in memory of a brave leader of the Sikh nation. Baba Ji lived the life of a true Khalsa, and embodied the teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In the immortal words of Bhagat Kabir Ji: ਗਗਨ ਦਮਾਮਾ ਬਾਜਿਓ ਪਰਿਓ ਨੀਸਾਨੈ ਘਾਉ ॥ The battle-drum beats in the sky of the mind; aim is taken, and the wound is inflicted. ਖੇਤੁ ਜੁ ਮਾਂਡਿਓ ਸੂਰਮਾ ਅਬ ਜੂਝਨ ਕੋ ਦਾਉ ॥੧॥ The spiritual warriors enter the field of battle; now is the time to fight! ਸੂਰਾ ਸੋ ਪਹਿਚਾਨੀਐ ਜੁ ਲਰੈ ਦੀਨ ਕੇ ਹੇਤ ॥ He alone is known as a spiritual hero, who fights in defense of religion. ਪੁਰਜਾ ਪੁਰਜਾ ਕਟਿ ਮਰੈ ਕਬਹੂ ਨ ਛਾਡੈ ਖੇਤੁ ॥੨॥੨॥ He may be cut apart, piece by piece, but he never leaves the field of battle.
  20. Firstly you want ekta between nihangs and the rest etc, how do you expect that when you point fingers at maryada of nihangs and say its deviated and pakhand, good luck with that ekta then And secondly bro your exmple of dumalle design changing is poor. The Nihangs have kept the rehat of oocha bunga, to keep chakar and kharag in their dumalle. I agree the design has changed slighly but it still sticks to guidlines of rehat. As their is no hukam to what shape your oocha bunga/dumalla should be. Nihangs have never and will never change puraatan rehat maryada, yes thing naturally change but nihangs have always clinged to rehat, they have not altered it, until you provide me with concrete evidence otherwise it is just a baseless conspiracy. The use of Sukh Nidhaan is from the time of the Guru and it has not changed, you can argue to what extent it should be consumed and when but fact is fact...Sukh Nidhaan was a tradition practised by puraatan akaali khalsa and will continue to be practised by their akaali descendants. You can disagree with it, but this tradition will remain. I dont agree this tradition is for all sikhs btw, only for akaalis who are living a chakarvarti lifestyle And i agree with you, Nihangs need to go back to their former character. It will happen slowly, things will take time
  21. Two great Jathedars in the Dal Panth First one is of Akaali Baba Hanuman Singh Ji, The 7th leader of the Budha Dal, Who became shaheed fighting the British ... and we all all know who the one in the second pic is
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