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The Afghan Sikhs prospered the most from 1940s to 1980s when the soviets came the Sikhs were left alone to do their trader businesses and shopkeeping. When the american CIA, british MI6, mossad and various islamic jihadi terrorist groups united to fight the soviet union then all afghans were seen as legitimate target by all sides. During the late 80s to early 90s after the waring mujahadeen had taken over afghanistan they decided to fight each other for power and it was that time Sikhs were deliberately targetted with over 8 beautiful huge afghan gurdwara's destroyed. It was then many Afghan Sikhs left on mass from afghanistan to the west, pakistan and india. When the pakistani isi created taliban arrived they modeled them on the characteristics of the Sikhs so impressed where they by Sikh soldiers fighting spirit in wars with india. The taliban wanted their strict version of islamic rule imposed all over afghanistan and did managed to establish it from 1996 to 2001. The taliban viewed Sikhs and all other minorities as 2nd class citizens but treated them accordance to the quran and sunnah so they were left alone to do their business and run their daily lives as long as they didnt convert muslims to their religion, they didnt practise their faith openly but behind closed doors, women had to be covered in a burka head to toe with no face shown, men had to wear yellow patches to indicate they were non-muslims so that according to the taliban they would not harrass the Sikhs,hindus when it came to prayer times and not force them into masjids to pray. The Sikhs lived a much imprisoned oppressed life regularly mocked for being kafir sikhs and discriminated but had a sense of security that if they had problems with muslim zealots they could get senior taliban officials to help smooth things out. under taliban shariah islamic rule the Sikhs lives were cheap so if a muslim killed a sikh there wouldn't be much punishment but if the sikh did that to a muslim its torture and death, often afghan Sikh women were sexually exploited and raped. If a muslim warlord wanted a Sikhs house to add to his real estate he could just occupy it and throw the poor afghan Sikhs out which was the story often. So even though taliban claimed Sikhs lived in safety and security in their rule and no harm was done to them that was not the case. The afghan Sikhs were very afraid very vulnerable and life and property was not safeguarded to even basic sharia law standards that the taliban professed to be following as an islamic sharia compliant state. Punjabi Sikhs have had to face a dark oppressive period in the 80s and early 90s under the brutal Indian regime but they had it slightly easier compared to the oppression in afghanistan islamic sharia hellhole that afghan Sikhs faced and facing in present times.

how Sikhs chose to avenge these attacks would be up to the kaum's leadership but I would say retaliation is very important as per sikh history even if it isnt the objective to wholesale eliminate the targeted anti-sikh opponents but simply not replying with not retaliation no matter how small or symbolic is inviting further attacks. in 1947 same thing happened to punjabi Sikhs they were merely minding their own business getting on with their lives until creation of pakistan was announced and found themselves on the wrong side of the islamic border. Many Sikhs were massacred as the muslim extremists launched first strikes on the Sikhs and other innocent non-muslims. which in turn lead to a huge retaliation from Sikhs on the other side of the new border. Sikhs repaid the attacks x10 which enabled the Sikh community to survive in east punjab. And islamic extremist is trying to bully and ethnically cleanse the remaining hindu and Sikhs out of afghanistan once they are out same thing will happen in pakistan then kashmir and then punjab. Where will Sikhs go? it's genocide

I question myself what would sri guru hargobind sahib or guru gobind singh ji do if they were alive in modern present days. Sit back and let their innocent Sikh believers get massacred or call a dharam yudh to defend themselves and wage relentless targeted war on the enemy until justice is achieved and sikh rule is established over lands of the enemies. Todays Sikhs are sitting ducks murdered by those who hate them and oppressed into not defending themselves with political correct handcuffs placed on them by fellow Sikhs and outsiders.

Maybe with less pollution from industry and people its making the skies clearer? but then again i do notice normally most years around this time of year in the spring, the skies are bluer and air fresher less humid and sticky like in summer.

There is something strange about this lockdown. I dunno what it is but something tells me that the virus is more infectious in the atmosphere and less people to people transmission scenario that they are trying to paint. A strange theory was flouted by an indian astrophysicist scientist who suggest that this virus came from a meteorite that burnt up in the atomsphere over china and eventually it spread everywhere. Seems like a wacky theory the bio weapon lab made one is more credible however I wouldn't discount it outright.

thats true. Islam is doing what islam does best. Just feel sooner or later most Sikhs will need to physically fight this monster as its written in their texts that they will fight all non-muslims nearing the day of judgement. These ISIS scumbags are trying to drag Sikhs into their fight.... and Sikhs will have to reply we can not be seen as weak and running away from fights cos once islamic monster has bent you over they will keep shafting you until it converts you and your land.

so suprise suprise the evil vermin islamic state khorasaan group (IS-K) or Khorasan Province (IS-KP) have claimed responsibility for this evil act allegedly. Does anyone have any information on who these people up and whats their beef with innocent Sikhs? Did Khalsa raj sikh warriors back in the days kick their scummy backsides and these coward rats are now taking out revenge centuries on innocents later or something?

why is this thread being hijacked to defame the afghan sikh community and the sins of some of them aboard? some of you guys should be ashamed of yourself defaming your own sikh brothers and sisters who are being murdered and systematically exterminated from afghanistan, gurdwara's blown up, SGGS Ji saroop destoryed, Sikh women and kids murdered. And some of you guys taking this as a joke and business as usual carry on. Have you not seen any graphic videos of them yet? you need to and picture yourself or your loved ones in that situation. It will make the kaum come to its senses. Can we really blame muslim terrorist extremists taking us as cowards and a joke if our own people do not care for the life of their fellow Sikhs regardless of their jhaat or background. Wake the F*k up either you regard every Sikh as your brother and sister or dont cry and expect sympathy next time a deranged extremist targets whats dear to you closer to home.

the irony of how in that kabul gurdwara's those afghan sikhs would be praying and wishing well for all of humanity sarbat da bhalla yet islamic enemies of sikhs were already planning their murder for being non-sunni's non-muslims. does anyone else get the feeling that if anything that happens to afghan sikhs its ok its tolerated cos they not seen as real Sikh? bit like how white christians view black and asian christians when they got attacked by muslim extremists the christians in the west didnt react by ordering military revenge attacks. Whereas if it was other way around against muslims the muslims as one community would be raising hell right now against the non-muslim attackers. Maybe one of these islamic terrorists will one day soon target a powerful Sikh leader in punjab or the lame duck fake sikh chief minister captain amrinder singh before Sikhs get their heads out of their backsides and plan a harse military response.

yeah I think our sikhs are still not getting it. The islamic salafi isis coronavirus will eventually reach india and punjab they already had a taste of it in pathankot few years ago. The akal takht jatheder must order military attacks in afghanistan or at the very least ready Sikhs for a military response train them like the RSS/bajrang dal for a coming conflict. Because those who see us as an enemy have already done 2 big attacks on our community in afganistan and sikhs didnt reply. as the old poem goes.................... First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews (and in our case .....afghan Sikhs) And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew (and in our case .....a afghan Sikh) Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

run away to canada, america, india? yup keep running away until there is no where to run away from the islamic virus? no where to run soon. We need to get real as a collective global community. While we are enjoying or burying our heads in the sand with our daily lives in safe countries our brothers and sisters in faith are suffering so much hardship you will not even imagine under the dark satanic shadow of islam bullies and their evil regime. Sikhs do not deserve to exist in this world if we can no help our must vulnerable which have been afghan sikhs for over 20years now. Again shame on all of us for not seeing the pain and cries of afghan sikh mothers, fathers, sons and daughters who are being slaughtered like animals by muslim extremists.

I've said this before earlier in the month, every time Sikhs help muslims (royinga, kashmir, new delhi) this is the reward from sunni salafi muslims on Sikhs.....genocide. Waheguru is sending a big message and our stupid low IQ so called "Sikhs" dont listen and continue to help the 1.5 billion strong muslim community while letting their most bullied, extremely scared and vulnerable Sikhs in the world get murdered by them in afghanistan. Shame on the Sikh kaum. https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-gunmen-storm-sikh-temple-054331204.html Afghanistan conflict: Militants in deadly attack on Sikh temple in Kabul BBC•March 25, 2020 Afghan Sikhs grieved for their relatives near the site of the attack At least 25 people have been killed in a militant attack on a Sikh temple in the Afghan capital Kabul. The interior ministry said a gunman had burst into the complex early in the morning, firing on worshippers. He was killed in an exchange of fire lasting six hours with security forces. Earlier reports said a group of assailants had carried out the attack. About 150 people were trapped in the complex in the Shorbazar area. The Islamic State group claimed the attack. IS has targeted Sikhs and other religious minorities before in Afghanistan. The country's main militant group, the Taliban, denied any involvement. Nato in Afghanistan called it an outrage. IS is less powerful than the Taliban in Afghanistan and has lost much of the territory it once controlled - but it has not been part of recent negotiations with the US and retains the ability to carry out deadly attacks, reports the BBC's Secunder Kermani. What do we know about the attack? About 150 people were inside the temple, which houses families and regularly hosts morning prayers, said Anarkali Kaur Honaryar, a Sikh MP in the Afghan parliament. People switched off their phones and tried to hide when the attack began, she said. Security forces surrounded the scene of the attack Another Sikh MP, Narender Singh Khalsa, put the number of people inside at 200. "Three suicide bombers entered a dharamsala [sanctuary area]," he told Reuters. "The gunmen started their attack at a time when the dharamsala was full of worshippers." Photos from the scene show security forces carrying people away on stretchers. Photos show security forces transferring victims of the attack at Dharamshala, a Sikh worship area in PD1 of #Kabul. #Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/NDyCvmWnH9 — TOLOnews (@TOLOnews) March 25, 2020 US-Taliban deal raises hope for peace Trump hails deal with Taliban to end Afghan war Afghanistan: The long road to peace How vulnerable are Sikhs in Afghanistan? Afghanistan's dwindling Sikh population, now said to number fewer than 10,000, has long complained of discrimination and harassment by the Muslim majority. In July 2018, IS said it had bombed a gathering of Sikhs and Hindus in the eastern city of Jalalabad, killing 19 people and injuring 20. Awtar Singh Khalsa, one of the country's best-known Sikh politicians at the time, was among those killed. Map

They been doing that for years bro just look up liverpool carepath way scandal its only now they are more open about it THEY decide who lives and dies. And most deaths are not natural once your in UK/western hospital they are forced deaths either by starvation of essential supplies to the body due to cost or forced overdosing of medication that kills you faster.

https://caravanmagazine.in/health/india-fourth-covid-casualty-attended-hola-mohalla-anandpur-sahib-infected-seven-family-members There's a few cases of this happening in punjab now. This virus has potential to spread very fast and overwhelm the very sparse and poor hospital facilities in that state and country. people sending jokey videos from whatsapp there last week they wont be doing that if this virus has establishes itself, god forbid.

If sikhs havent been taking this seriously they need to do so right now in the west and in india. If you have relatives tell them to stay away from crowds, dont hang around in gurdwara if its still open and especially with with crowds. The gurdwara commitee's that are open are irresponsible and are risking the deaths and short term and long term health of the sangat they only care about money. Wash your hands regularly, keep elderly/vulnerable at home isolated, use face coverings and wear gloves to prepare food until the situation has got better. Gurdwara's need to start getting prepared for large number of deaths if situation gets out of hand.

Looks like my concerns/predictions few weeks ago are sadly coming true. https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/85374-coronavirus-the-real-picture/&tab=comments#

I knew of British Sikhs who used to own automatic assault rifles until they got outlawed in the 80s, people knew not to mess with Sikhs as they were peaceful but violent when provoked too. The elder sikhs of the 70s/80s/90s were a different calibre much more battle ready and willing to get criminal record and go jail for family, Sikhs and Sikhi. They came from a mentality that were hardcore types the ones that had the dilar brave-heart spirit having fought UK white racist skinhead street gangs, some traveled to india to fight indian army terrorists, they fought UK muslim groomer gangs and islamic extremists (shere punjab vs chalvey boys, khalifa786, hibz-ut-tahir/al-mahajaroun,etc) and when they weren't doing that they was beefing with each other too in southall (tooti nangs vs holy smokes). Younger Sikhs of today are comfortable as they were raised with a different mentality. The environment has changed and so has the mentality naturally. Is it a bad thing? perhaps as Sikhs have prospered financially as they concentrated more in business and education. However they have definitely lost their street cred as being fearsome fighters. The blacks especially Jamaicans still have it the muslims have it. The Sikhs tend to get into that crazy fighter mode mentality when political, economic or living conditions become quite harsh I've noticed, so perhaps we will see a rise of Sikh fighting spirit in the near future.

For those who don't know who Allama Muhammad Iqbal was, he is widely known as Allama Iqbal, was a poet, philosopher and politician, as well as an academic, barrister and scholar in British India who is widely regarded as having inspired the Pakistan Movement. He is called the "Spiritual Father of Pakistan." and to this day islamist supremacist extremists in pakistan often quote his poetry when talking of muslim separatism. Seeing how influential allama iqbal's poetry was and still is to the consciences of punjabi muslims back before partition and desire for separate nationhood. Do we have such a figure a poet in our history or present times who captures the mood and struggles of the Sikh nation?

And this is why sangat Ji that most mainstream muslims who are politically and religiously far right. See us as a harmless weak low IQ liberal left wing community. While they way they work is more calculated, muslim nationalist right wing and shrewd. The non-sikh invaders/aggressors who assessed the Sikhs before going into battle with them saw Sikhs as easily pleased and won over with flattery, very gullible/naive politically, more braun than brains. And again to this day we most of our low IQ publicity hungry people fit that narrative perfectly. People need to remember muslims only give to muslim charities. Sikhs generally are too well meaning and generous to help everyone even though they have hugely lower population than muslims and end up helping no one significantly in the end. Sikhs need to remember when babri masjid was attacked by RSS hindutva mobs in 1992. The muslims used that excuse aboard to rally up their fellow brothers and sisters in faith attack innocent Sikhs and gurdwara's destroyed in afghanistan, pakistan and in the west we had uk gurdwara's attacked too by muslim zealots. The muslims from non-south asian background always lump us Sikhs as hindus and encourage south asian muslims to attack us and justify it by labelling us as all kafir non-muslim indian hindus. So we although we have got some short term browine from the muslim community in india and aboard. It will be short lived because just like when Sikhs from khalsa aid had helped royhinga muslims in bangaldesh and then few months later 23 afghan Sikhs were murdered by islamic sunni salafi pathan extermists in afghanistan. During the kashmir incorperation into indian union crisis Sikhs helped kashmiris safely get to their homes in kashmir. However after few months later many indian Sikh soldiers were killed by an jihadi islamic terrorist sparking india's retaliatory fighter jet attacks in pakistan balakot. We as a kaum need to realise the muslims by quran and sunnah see us as opponents until we submit to their abrahamic nonsense of a religion and submit to the will of their prophet and 7th century arab edicts. Cos we dont believe in that rubbish they will always see us as the enemy of al-lah and want to fight us demographically, socially, ideologically, politically and economically.

I hear that, i think that change mostly happened just after the 9/11/2001 attacks by islamics and then we had very low IQ racist people that saw all turbanned brown people as "mozlems". Then we had 7/7/2005 attacks by islamics in the UK and we and had gurdwaray attacked and some sikhs attacked by racist whites but it wasnt as bad as it could have been had Sikhs not had good history with the UK public. This may surprise some people but the only times i've personally experienced Sikhphobia is when the aggressor has been a muslim. It was muslims being anti-sikh and anti-anything non-muslim during school years that awakened my interest in Sikhi and learn the negative teachings and aspects of islam. I wanted to find out why they were hating on me as a Sikh and other non-muslims. Before then I just saw muslims as the same mostly as me, mostly brown south asian people just different religions but after seeing how their faith had made them extremists against us I then started to learn about Sikhi and learnt how great our faith was and huge sacrifices our people had made defending it against islam's overt intolerance. And If you analyse most of the violent attacks on Sikhs in the west vast majority has been done by muslims and the rest by white ethno-nationalist racist types. So when people wonder why we don't have much time for islam and why we call out muslim crimes against our people. Its because our community is a targeted community by this group of people and we have every right to defend ourselves and identify the aggressors and call out their crimes against our community.

Before 1980s the Sikhs had very positive representation. There is a very few documentaries on youtube about Sikhs in 70s, etc. During the 1980s with british establishment linking up with indian and their genocidal plans to murder our people they also softened up the people with anti-sikh propaganda news pieces with that sikhphobic agent mark tully. Pitty our people didnt call out the sikhphobic content like they are beginning to now.

The left wing or mainstream media orgs like the BBC (british establishment media organisations) have a hierarchy of victimhood or special groups interests that receive their blessings/favoritism. This is what i realised what the hierarchy of minority or "underprivileged" groups is in the west: feminists/women > homosexuals/LGBT > blacks > muslims > india > hindu's > sikhs Sikhs are a minority within minority groups should be receiving that most favorable coverage in terms of what we have faced in our history, contributions our people made towards the West/UK's freedom in both world wars. Yet the racist British establishment use of the left wing mainstream media agenda is mostly always favored against us.

If so whats your experiences and how did it effect you?

Sadly its growing problem especially if your easily identified as a turban wearing sikh male. We need teach our boys to fight like MMA fighters, boxers and street fighters not mere circus act gatka type martial "artists". Our youth are taught to be weak liberal left wing idiots while most blacks and whites are more ethno-nationalist and most muslims are more far right islamists who are teaching their kids to be strong dominant confident and fighters. And ironically beautiful women tend to be attracted to and breed more with men who show more right wing passion, aggression, confidence and violent nature than those who are seen as weak and stand for everything or nothing.