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So what are you and EDL going to do about it? march like morons inciting trouble where ever you go? EDL has a flawed strategy, the only way you can counter islamification is having an ideology that counters Islam. When the British ideology and way of life is about getting drunk, sleeping around, having fights with randoms in the street after a night out then its doomed. You can see why most muslims do not want to jump ship and join into the present British culture of nastiness. If EDL adopted a theologic stand and practised what they preached maybe they would have a chance but sorry to say at the moment they are just seen as a drunk bunch of football loving morons.

That is interesting, i read somewhere that the american governor who was serving under sarkar-e-khalsa refused to help the Sikh troops against the rebels of the hazara, instead he said he would only take orders from the British agent abbott. And as everyone knows now that town abottabad was where bin laden was found and was named after james abbott. These foreigners in the army of the Khalsa eventually betrayed the Sikh government when the first anglo-sikh war broke out they either fled back to Europe or switched sides to help the British. The British administation used the same tactics of divide and conquer that worked so well in other parts of their empire. Even to this day they adopt this strategy in conflicts they enter into. First create the strife between various groups then go in.

Show your sisters your daughters love and show them what Sikhi's view is on these matters. If your household is full of fights and no love the girls are more likely want to find that love else where doesnt take a rocket scientist to know this. There are many females born into Sikh households who chose to cut their hair and par take in anti-sikh practises however its their choice you cant force a person to stick to rehit you can only guide them to it. Same with boys you have incidents where boys had to make up lies of people attacking them and cutting their hair off, only to find out they cut the hair themselves because they find it very hard to keep kesh and daastar. It's a failure that goes back to SGPC's defination of who a Sikh is but we wont go there, people will not want to hear the truth.

Andy choudry and his lot no suprise there. He is a clown no one takes him seriously apart from EDL who need him to grow their membership and play on fears of islamification of UK. His strategy is to create a divide so that non-muslims start to attack muslims and vice versa that way you get polarization, Anjem even says this is what he wants to achieve in his video's. It's a strategy adopted by our own idiots the Dal Khalsa and there Hindu opposites of Shiv sena / VHP. Its a good way to create trouble between groups they only become a threat when we start to listen to them and start to take them seriously. If they are ignored and marginalised they dont have any power of influence.

It was the conspiring Hindu Dogra's in government in Khalsa Durbar along with their British agents who eventually brought down the Sikh empire and Khalsa Raj in the form of assassinations of the late Maharajah's sons one by one in brutal or dubious accidental ways. Had these idiots known how history would unfold at the determent of their community, ours and the Indian subcontinent as a whole I would imagine they wouldn't have dared to conspire against sarkar-e-khalsa.

Sometimes you have to dig very deep to see who really calls the shots, george bush is a nut but a rich nut who has profited from the 2 wars he has taken america into. The real power brokers are his financiers those who finance the american government. The bush family are well connected to the bin laden family. Why was the bin laden family allowed to fly out of america after 9/11 without being interrogated any other family would have been hauled into detention centre for interrogations. There are so many questions that only a simpleton would accept the offical version of events. We can even relate all this secret society and shadow government bs back at our own Sikh empire. It also was brought down by the same type of powers that are ruling the world now. Pakistan wasnt created because Jinnah and muslim league pressed for hard for it. The british could have quite easily let the muslims and hindus fight it out and depart back to England. What they did was divide India and put their puppets in power in pakistan so they could continue to have influence of the region, they did the same to the Islamic caliphate they destroyed it and created several countries out of it installed western allied puppet dictate leaders. It is well known to educated Sikhs that maharajah duleep singh was in the freemasons, and look what happened to his linage and his kingdom. Queen victoria had servants make sure that Duleep Singhs linage ended and his influence with Sikhs to get his kingdom back was destroyed. They made him indulge in useless activities of a socialite while stealing the wealth of his homeland. When he woke up got into debt and wanted his kingdom back they sent him back to England where he died in a miserable state. All paths point towards a conspiracy to control the resources and governments of the countries that are strategic to these elitist powers that be. To get any where in high office in the west you have to have connections you have to have influence that is how you become part of the establishment. If you do not pledge life and loyality to these elites you will find it very hard to work yourself up the chain of command. A Sikh should always be sovereign and never bow down to any authority apart from Waheguru Ji and SGGS Ji always seek and speak the truth especially important when falsehood is being propagated in order to wage unjust wars willy nilly.

As you can see the Hindu goddess durga is imprinted on the captured Sikh battle standards that these particular nihungs carried. The last picture has the Hindu god brahma on it if im not mistake? Perhaps Dogra battalion of the Khalsa Durbar?

Makes sense there was various units of the Khalsa army made up of Nihungs of various beliefs. One carrying the banner of a Hindu deity on Sikh Battle Standards can be clearly seen captured by an artist during the time. I'll try put the picture up if i find it.

In America i can imagine ignorant white / black/ hispanic americans do consider Sikhs to be Muslims or Arabs there have been numerous incidents where all 3 racial groups have attacked innocent Sikhs since 9/11 thinking Sikhs will not do anything back. Sikhs have to stand up for their rights and come together and fight or at least educate and invite locals to become Sikhs / learn about the faith. This is the mistake you American Sikhs made you spread so far out that if any incident takes place your so stretched that you have no numbers to draw on for support. In the 80s we had national front skinhead racists who came to attack southall, Sikhs along with other asians and anti-racist whites banded together to fight them. After numerous street battles over the years Sikhs become established and fully integrated into society. And yes I'm guessing it is easier for Sikhs in the UK to live a life without fear or harassment than in America these days because we have as you say a bigger density of population in cities and we have a long history with the British white people. We have fought as foes (Sikh empire vs British East India companys armed forces) and fought as allies in both world wars. The British white elders respect this fact however the generations below them do not realise the contribution of Sikhs towards the war effort and dont really care because their generation of idiots who worship celebs on tv. So you get young British whites who tend to be ignorant of who Sikhs are and what relevance Sikhs have to British society and history. They are not taught what Sikhs did for the British in history books, I remember being taught history at school and it was all focused around kings, queens of England, middle ages wars with Muslims, slave trade, various European wars and world wars with Germany.

Reminds me of the conduct of the Indian army in some instances worse. The use of depleted uranium bullets is beyond evil, they are trying to kill the next generation of the people they are going to war with, it is genocide and infanticide. We should remind ourselves that uranium was also found in underground water table in Punjab.

This really should be moved to the politics section.

Apparently these non-semetic Khazar's were not Jews by birth but converted in 8th century, they even had an empire. They only converted because they didnt want to convert to christian empire to the north and islamic empire to the south and converting to either would offend the other meaning war imposed on them. So they falsely chose to convert to judaism in order to keep their independance and neutrality. Since then jews been getting a bad reputation due to the actions of the khazar's who been trying to get over all power within most western governments and kingdoms, as their empire was destroyed in internal civil war between Khazar clans.

Yup same thing with pearl habour. I learnt about the 5 dancing Israeli's back in 2002 they were caught by police on the 9/11 turns out they were a israeli mossad hit team (financied by master criminal Khazarian Jewish rothschild family who also support the zionest cause and state of israel). I personally respect the Jews in general , their contribution to the western world in terms of technology and media and I also believe in a Jewish state to exist but not at the expense of innocent people being killed including members of our community who suffered due all the events that happened since 9/11. When I connect the dots and the financial trails of most wars and disasters since 1900s I can see clearly who gains from all these terrible events. The profiteers of war are the ones who usually start them by proxy agents within terrorist groups they finance or governments & their armed forces under their financial strangle hold.

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It was an inside job the authorities were given plenty of warning what was going to happen anyways pretext was needed to launch wars on geo political strategic nations to get those countries oil resources because oil is more precious than gold it can be used in almost anything for production. CNN had interviewed osama prior 9/11 he was an CIA agent and still is if he is still alive which many believe he is living it up in some arab country right now hidden from public view. However not all government officials are involved in the conspiracy, only people with vested interests are involved such as George bush and his neo-con kabal. JFK was assassinated because he opposed secret shadow government and societies, they deemed him too dangerous to speak the truth so silenced him by murdering him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8X7H_IyOo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaw2tYWaAuU&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLq60q2Se8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABL2T_mmJFY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiIXZSqvk60&feature=related

Shocking news no doubt the likes of Mohammad Izhar Alam and KPS Gill will go down in Sikh history as one of those evil villains the likes of the Mughuls governors of Punjab who murdered Sikhs for the corrupt oppressive Islamic Mughul ruled state back in the 17th century. Yet this has happened in our lifetimes, this is why we should do all that we can to spread awareness and get these guys brought to justice.

Possible photo of this state terrorist war criminal. All pantic groups need to concentrate on getting this guy brought to justice. He and his units along with KPS Gill are directly responsible for the killing fields of Punjab where they used state terrorism to not only target Sikh civilians but also others to give the Khalistan movement a bad name by using terrorist black cat police and commando's posing as Sikh separatists to carry out criminal acts contrary to the movement.

JALANDHAR: The US embassy in Delhi strongly believed that in Punjab a personal paramilitary force "Alam Sena" of "Black Cats" existed during militancy days and it staged "encounter killings". In a cable sent on December 19, 2005, by Robert O Blake, deputy chief of mission of US in New Delhi, answering a number of questions by officials in US regarding Kulbir Singh Barapind's extradition, mentioned the "Alam Sena" in detail. Barapind, a native of district Jalandhar, had alleged that his illegal torture was ordered by Alam, the then SSP Jalandhar and US officials were trying to verify these allegations. "With regard to former senior superintendent of police (Jalandhar) Mohammad Izhar Alam, we can confirm that he now holds the position of additional director general (administration), a senior police posting," the cable said. "During the insurgency, he assembled a large, personal paramilitary force of approximately 150 men known as the "Black Cats" or "Alam Sena" that included cashiered police officers and rehabilitated Sikh terrorists. The group had reach throughout the Punjab and is alleged to have had carte blanche in carrying out possibly thousands of staged "encounter killings." (Note: Former director general Punjab Police, KPS Gill, publicly praised the group, saying that Punjab police could not function without them)", the cable noted. While concluding the cable Blake also noted "when Alam visited the UK in 2003 for a conference on Indian policing, three individuals accused him of having either watched them be tortured or directing other police officers to inflict torture, to include their arms being suspended from the ceiling, their legs being crushed under heavy weights, and the application of electric shocks and acid. Some human rights cases against Alam remain pending in India". It also quoted Human Rights Report of 2004 stating "the pattern of torture and extrajudicial killings prevalent in the 1990s has ended, but the government has failed to hold accountable hundreds of police and security officials for serious human rights abuses (committed from 1984-94)." Alam now a SAD candidate Mohd. Izhar Alam retired as DGP (prisons) and jumped into politics. He is now preparing to contest next assembly election from Malerkotla.

They are working overtime right now in Punjab trying to change the demographics in the geo-political sensitive area for Sikhs even online they are creating propaganda trying to show Sikhs and their culture in subtle negative light also they are trying to give the perception and message "that only jesus can offer them hope". Using all kinds of clever psy-ops tried and tested methods they used on muslims to get them to convert the same they are trying with us. If we start on Christianity they will be wondering what hit them. We can smash Christian theology to bits ideologically, Sikhism is far superior but due to our friendly relations and respect for their community we try not to engage in belittling their faith. If they persist in trying to move in on our people then things will change. Maybe they are jealous that white westerners ex-christians and atheists are embracing Sikhism they see that as a threat? However they should realise these westerners embrace Sikhism out of their own free will and research there is no cohesion or pressure for them to convert as Sikhs are not missionary people. Sooner or later they will have no choice but to engage with various online counter video's just like members of the community are doing against Islamo-fascists and extremist VHP RSS type inspired dehra cultists.

Dr Inderjit Singh does have a point in that case that you highlighted. If handling meat as and when required if it stated on the job duties spec when he signed the contract for employment then he was in the wrong. Handling meat is based upon his own religious and moral grounds not on Sikhi's views as this issue is not clear cut. Gurbani gives philosophical advice and guidance whether one should eat meat or not. So its a personal choice what a Sikh does in regards to meat. A Sikh being different to a Khalsa (amritdhari Sikh). So when the complexities are all added together we can see why the judges are coming to conclusion on things out of their remit, they are not scholars of theology so should be advised to stay out of such matters. As for dowries, though the practise is frowned upon in the west, a significant population of Sikhs and other cultures of the world still value this time honoured practise of giving ones daughter the best start in life with her in laws. I would never insist upon a dowry if i were to have a daughter in law, however for some families taking on a daughter in law in their family home can be addition burden on financial resources and space if she is not able to work. You have to look at the wider implications of such judgements and why such practises are in place and the financial hard times that a family may come under especially in recessions or bad economies.

I hope these talks are geared towards sahejdhari Sikhs, recorded and uploaded on youtube so others can learn. Otherwise though its a good idea and praise worthy however it eventually would be another failed attempt to re-engage with the lost generation.

Was just viewing a bbc newsnight program featuring donalds rumsfield and he says that he didnt want the "war on terror" terminology used that was george bush's idea. George Bush being the puppet or should i say muppet of the shadow government who really hold the reins of power. In my opinion and opinion of majority of sane people the war on terror is a nonsense concept as one mans terror is another mans freedom fighting. What has happened since 9/11 is in fact a war of ideologies and war of economies, China, India and brazil are fast emerging economic super powers now. The west is losing its number one position in the world. The American analysts saw this in 70s when america faced running out of money for not paying of its debt and raising the debt ceiling and again back in late 90s they saw trouble ahead so they lent cash and loans to asian nations like indonesia to create a fake bubble then crashed their economies by withdrawing funds. Then to rescue the countrys economy and the democratic elected government the IMF give them financial aid and this is how it works to stay on top dog in the world they make other nations fall into debt. Then 9/11 happened and that gave the western powers a pretext to go into geo political or resource rich area's to steal the oil and gave their firms rich contracts to construct the country back on its feet. This is how the western governments makes its money from war, they make the weapons and sell them to despotic regimes and also they use the same pretexts to atack those regiemes when the times suit them. Then they offer their financial and other services to make even more money (ie profiteering from war). So it all boils down to ideology and economies. The west has a very corrupt and nasty ideology at its core by justifying illegal wars and wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians of other nations to stay at top in the world. The islamics khalifat loving Jihadi's also have a corrupt ideology one that doesn't give basic freedoms and human rights to muslims let alone non-muslims who would be treated as 2nd class citizens in shariah ruled lands. Khalsa Raj is the only solution if we are not to to be marginalised in the war of ideologies, the sooner we have that implemented the sooner the we have political destiny in our own hands again.

Terrorism a false concept made by corrupt governments, rulers and ruthless individuals who want citizens/people to live in fear so they can be controlled like scared sheep. A Sikh should always be in char di kala laugh in the face of fear and danger. Though this control of the mind is hard to achieve but once you do you become the observer of life and the world rather than the actor attached and within it. Accept waheguru ji's hukham no matter how painful thats the best way to live.

hmmmm interesting there has been a earthquake in holland a few hours ago this is a pretty rare event.

I've seen that video i think there is a grain of truth there but most of it is mumbo jumbo (that elien comet broke up a few days ago) I'm pretty clued up on conspiracy theories and governments trying use deception in various ways. However I think the real trouble will start when the solar flares hit around 2012 and the power grids get knocked out. Maybe world war 3 breaks out because some unstable computer system crashes and lunches a missle at a nuclear power or nuclear power planets do not have working water pumps to cool the reacter and their is a disasterous meltdown across countries so these underground shelters are going to be used by the "elites" to shelter in while the dust settles a few months later and millions if not billions are dead. It could happen but lets hope it doesnt.