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  1. Maybe Kam Singh can help us understand current situation with Sant Samaj. I wouldn't call Harnam Singh or Sant Samaj sell outs Zoltan Singh ji. We shouldn't make judgjements solely on associations. Harnam Singh does katha and has published books on sikhi. I think Jathedar ji is simply unaware of numerous anti-panth stuff Badal has done. I think here in UK we all know how bad Badal has been for panth. Unfortunatley in Punjab they don't have information regarding Badal, remember ptc news channel is 100% pro Badal. Infact it is said most news media in Punjab is anti-sikh. They never report incidents properly i.e. mohali turban incident. Most people in Punjab didn't know it even happened! Sant Samaj will never get backing from panth unless they distance themselves from Badal. It is in interest of Sant Samaj to cut off links with Badal to gain respect from entire panth. Maybe Sant Samaj doesn't support Badal. However if this is the case, they should release statement, they need to be more vocal. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  2. Kam singh ji, I think you have good knowledge on sant samaj. Which part of southall youth statement do you disagree with. Harnam Singh Dhumma is pardhan of sant sant samaj. You can't disagree that Harnam Singh has link with Badal? For example he attended funeral of Badal's wife and shook hands with Sukhbir Badal for calender issue. Remember this is the same family that visited dere jhoota sauda.(pictures aren't hard to find, just type Badal and Dera into google images.) Kam Singh ji, I respect the jeevan of Harnam Singh. He is doing good parchar in Punjab. He is doing seva of the panth by releasing steek's of Gurbani etc. However I can't defend bhai sahib when it comes to political issues. I would personally never shake hand of Sukhbir Badal until he apologises for visiting jhoota sauda dera and for his father bowing his head to it's leader. Apologising for sitting on chair(Parkash Badal) in presence Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj. Providing police protection for Ashutosh. The list goes on and on. Do you think what I have written is fair or not. Please if I am wrong tell me. I also want to support sant samaj, I want to see sikhi flourishing in Punjab as well. Also Kam Singh ji, I think you personally know some of the members of sant samaj. It would be good when members come down to england you can show them pictures of Badal's visiting various dera's(Ashutosh, jhoota sauda etc) It would be very interesting to see their response. Maybe Jathedar Harnam Singh Dhumma simply doesn't know what Badal does behind the scenes. If Jathedar ji had more information on Badal I think he would defintely change his stance. Sant samaj should be made aware of kartoota of Badal. Please don't mistake my intentions. I'm not anti-sant, anti-taksal. Damadami taksal has done great seva of the panth. I just think that Sant Samaj and Jathedar Harnam Singh should cut off all links with Badal. Do you agree bhai sahib? Wouldn't Sant Samaj be better off and earn more respect from sikh panth, especially abroad, if they cut off links with Badal? Waheguru ji ka khalsa! Waheguru ji ki fateh!
  3. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji's brother on sangat tv now
  4. zoltan singh ji, I haven't fallen for the show. Thats why at the end of my post I make it clear that SGPC and Akal Takht should be independent from political parties. Good point about the elections, Im sure they were supposed to take place long time ago but keep getting suspended. I agree that its most likely that jathedar's and SGPC are making speeches for political gain, however, at least their taking some action. For me the setup of SGPC is wrong. I make benti to all sangat to do some research on other religous parties ie Vatican. Lets take good points from other such institutions and draw up some sort of plan of how the SGPC should be run, how jathedar be elected, best way to do parchar etc. Most of all, how to redisign the election process so that you don't have to be bart of any political party(Congress, Akali) in order to become member of SGPC. We don't seem to talk about SGPC. Yet we want justice for shaheed singhs, separate homeland, parchar etc. Current situation is pathetic, go to this link http://www.sgpc.net/PHOTOS%20PRESIDENTS/index.htm look at no.28, basically from 1973 to now, nearly all presidents of SGPC have been Badal's men. Gurcharan Singh however did turn against Badal, just like Jathedar Ranjit Singh. What happened, they were noth removed from power due to influence of Badal. How can chief minister have power of religous instition like SGPC. Does Italian prime minister pick and choose leaders of Vatican? Avtar Singh Makkar has been re-elected 6 times in a row?! Why is he really that good of a Jathedar? I urge sangat to do some research into SGPC and lets see what we can do. If we want there to be good parchar of sikhi in punjab, then we need to sort out the SGPC. I think current political situation needs to be discussed on Sikh Youth show. Many of youth in UK may not have much knowlede on Akali Dal, Congress, SGPC etc. SGPC and Akal Takht are to important to ignore, we need to have discussion within sangat especially youth on how we can improve these institution's. So benti to Youth Show, if you are reading, in future lets discuss this topic. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  5. There was a big smagam at damdami taksal(mehta chowk) headquarters yesterday shown on sikh channel. It was good to see a smagam in punjab to honour shaheeds of 1984 . There were huge posters of Sant Jarnail Singh, Bhai Amrik Singh etc There was good turnout, also good to see so many sabat soorat singhs from all age groups. Nihang Singhs and mahapursh from various samprada also attended smagam. At the end of the day if we want khalistan there has to be demand in Punjab. There needs be many such smagam's held in punjab in order to create awareness among sangat in Punjab. Also Jathedar's of Akal Takht and SGPC, attended, they both made good speeches even jathedar Makkar! Jathedar Makker said we shouldn't forget the massacre of 1984. He said the congress were just as bad if not worse than mughals rulers. I agree, the mughals invaded india, they were outsiders who commited many atrocities. However the Congress party promised to help Sikhs after in partition in 1947, they have knowledge of our history and great sacrifices of Guru Sahiban for Hindustan and Hindu Dharam. They knew how many Sikh men,women and children sacrificed their lives fighting for independence. Knowing all this, they still had audacity to attack Harmandar Sahib and kill 100 000s of sikh men, women and children! Jathedar's announced that within 2 months plans will be drawn up for Shaheed Memorial commemorating shaheed singhs(jaikara were also made by sangat). Harnam Singh, Jathedar Damdami Taksal, organized smagam. He said every year at mehta chowk there will be smagam for 1984. This is also good news. Also ban has been lifted at amritsar airport. Employees can now wear kirpan at the airport. SGPC were planning a protest today, but ban was lifted. SGPC is also working with Khalistan Liberation Force with signature campaign to help free bhai Devinderpal Singh Bhullar from death row. Recent posts have been attacking our panthic oraganisations(myself included). However is is important that if our panthic organizations take positive steps, we also praise them. We should highlight both positive and negative actions our panthic bodies. Hopefully our panthic organisations can in future take decisive action when panth requires it. Also it is important to highlight seva from Dal Khalsa(Satnam Singh Paonta Sahib held 72 hour fast for shaheedi memorial) and Baba Baljit Singh Daduwal. If it wasn't for the pressure of Baba Baljit Singh and Dal Khalsa, it is very unlikely that SGPC, Akal Takht would have taken action on shaheed memorial. There are many things SGPC and Akal Takht should be doing right now i.e getting justice for shaheeds Shaminder Singh Shera and Sohan Singh Sursingh, and countless other shaheed singh singhnia, providing financial aid to families etc Akal Takht and SGPC can do great seva for the panth. However they will only be truly effective once they are free from chains of political parties ie Akal Dal and Congress. Once they become independent institutions with strong leaders then we can truly hope to see chardi kala of panth and future homeland for Sikh panth. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  6. By the way the interview on sikh tv is different to the one on sangat tv. Only saw few minutes of interview on sikh tv, looked like good interview. Hopefully someone can upload footage of both interviews. I'm sure channels can help us out if no one recorded footage. Bhai sahib is a straightforward genuine gursikh. Some points he made: - He gave details on Sant Jarnail Singh jeevan(life). He was a hard work worker. While doing kheti(farming) Sant ji would remain engrossed in gurbani path and naam simran. - Even in young age, Sant ji did immense path and simran. One day vadde mahapurkh (Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh - 12th jathedar of damdami taksal) saw sant ji sitting down,immersed in meditation. Baba Gurbachan Singh asked why sant ji would he did so much path and simran? What did he want? Sant ji replied, I want seva di daat, I want simran di daat. Baba ji started laughing, he said Jarnail Singh, dont worry in the future you will be blessed with masssive seva! - Bhai sahib viewed body of sant ji at akal takht after he was shaheed. - He himself faced opposition on his stance on sant ji's shaheedi. - He is aware of Baba Thakur Singh ji's stance and he fully respects Baba ji. - He himself had doubts over Baba Harnam Singh, but admits he was wrong to doubt Baba Harnam Singh. - He says, give Baba Harnam Singh some time, he will become a good leader. Many more interesting stories bhai sahib has shared with sangat. I urge sangat to watch interviews of bhai sahib. Hopefully they will be uploaded. Bhai sahib has nice temperemant. Bhai sahib answered all questions in straightforward manner. Even on Sant ji's shaheedi, jathedar of Taksal, bhai sahib didn't avoid questions or get angry. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  7. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh! Excellent show on sangat tv. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji's brother is talking right now on sangat tv! Very interesting show! Sant ji's brother just talking about Sant ji's shaheedi. He confirms he himself had darshan of sant ji's body at sri Akal Takht sahib. He got very emotional describing how he put his hands on Sant ji's knees near Akal Takht. The body of Sant ji was obvoiously badly damaged but bhai saib ji says he identified Sant ji by looking at top of Sant ji's head. Also he also says he fully respects Baba Thakur Singh ji. But bhai sahib himself says he believes that Sant ji is shaheed. Also he says in show he has faith in baba Harnam Singh Dhumma as leader of taksal. It would be interesting to hear views of gurmukhs who still believe Sant ji is alive after hearing what Sant ji's brother has just said. I hope somebody recorded show, many thing Sant ji's brother has said. Bhai sahib also says that if anyone wants to ask him any quetions he his happy to answer. I think he is still in the UK. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Benti to sangat do not make this into a negative post. We all know the seva and kamai of mahapurkh Baba Thakur Singh ji. No negative posts please sadh sangat ji! Bhai sahib himself says that he fully respects Baba Thakur Singh ji.
  8. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! Good work satkaar campaign! Its good that you have condoned violence that took place. As you have stated, majority of protest and protesters were peaceful. For next protest I would like to suggest that a meeting should take prior to protest. In the meeting elder gursikhs should give guidance on the protest protocal, especially to younger protesters. Next time even if we are provoked, we should remain steadfast and continue reciting gurbani. Lets not give media, or sadly our own community, a chance to attack us. If we can achieve victory through peaceful means, the campaign will gain more respect. I hope we learn the lesson from this event, the media and even our own community will use any opportunity to label amritdhari sikhs as militants, extremists etc. Let's not give them a chance! Maharaj kirpa karo! Give us the ability to achieve victory through peaceful means. Keep up the good work! May Akal Purakh give you blessing to achieve victory in future (hopefully committee members wake up and realise it is wrong to serve meat and alcohol on gurdwara premises!) Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  9. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh! Report from TIMES OF INDIA(just type in word 'sikh' in google search then click on 'news' to see full report: ==================================================================================================== Militant Sikhs in UK protest sale of booze, meat LONDON: Two hundred militant Sikhs trashed their own community centre in the UK in a violent protest against the sale of meat and alcohol at a private party. The angry mob broke in after pelting cops with bricks and bottles. They smashed windows, furniture and equipment causing "significant" damage, the Sun reports. Police from across the West Midlands rushed to theSikh Cultural Centre in Dudley, where three people, one a cop, were hurt in clashes. The demonstrators were believed to be from the UK Sangat group, which protests at alleged code-breaking temples. They accused centre bosses of insulting their faith by allowing alcohol and meat at a private party that night. The five-hour stand-off on Saturday only ended when the chiefs prohibited the meat and drink. example from english media(the telegraph): =============== Sikhs trash own community centre for selling alcohol Two hundred Sikh protesters trashed their own community centre last night in a violent protest against the sale of meat and alcohol at a private party. 10:40AM BST 29 May 2011The violent scenes flared after a peaceful protest turned ugly when members of the mob clashed with police trying to calm the situation on Saturday. As the mobs numbers spiralled, some protesters picked up missiles and hurled them at police. The violent stand-off only ended at around 6pm when managers at the centre caved in to the mobs demands and agreed to prohibit the sale of meat and alcohol. Chief Inspector Deb Doyle, who led the police response to the disorder, said: "What started as a peaceful protest soon turned to violence when a minority of people started throwing missiles at officers and then forced their way inside the centre. ========================================================================================================== Just look at above headline in the telegraph then look at what chief inspector Doyle says'a peaceful protest soon turned to violence when a minority of people' even the police say it was peaceful and a minority of people were violent. I also think the protest was also reported in other tabloid newspapers, such as the sun, daily mail etc. I personally avoid tabloid newspapers, they have negative effect on spiritual jeevan, just full of celebrity gossip and whatnot. However im sure they too produced biased reports using their favourite keywords such as 'militant','violence','mobs'. Whats depressing is that the 'average sikh' who has no knowledge of sikhi, rehat maryada, will pick up the newspaper read the article and believe everything written. I guarantee majority of our community will be in favour of dudley comittee and for party halls at gurdwara's. They will be against amritdhari gursikhs and brand them as militants and terrorists just as the media has. Also check out sikhphilosphy.net, they have topic on dudley protest, I think nearly all of their responses were negative and Randip Singh has branded all the protesters as extremists. I don't think its worth arguing with them, don't waste your time. However its important that we are aware that even so called 'sikh' forums are attacking us. Basing their opinions on biased reports, not doing any research on what actually took place. Shame on sikhphilosophy.net thay have let the sikh panth down, basing their views on biased reports. However dont worry singho! Stay in chardi kala! Keep faith in Guru Granth sahib Ji maharaj! Maharaj will do kirpa on the panth and bless it with chardi kala! Good work, everybody at satkar campaign! Waheguru Ji Ka khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki fateh!
  10. Im pretty sure tommorow on asian network tommorow they will have a show on dudley protest on nihal's show which airs at 1pm. I make a benti to satkar campaign sevedars, to please call in the show to defend sikhs who protested at dudley. I can guarantee that 90% of callers will take side of those supporting party halls, meat, sharab. I can also guarantee that majority of callers supporting party halls at gurdwara's will be of sikh background! These are dark times for sikh panth! It is important that member of satkar campaign who call in have good knowledge of sikhi and knowledge on akal takhts hukkamnama's, sandesh etc. Personally I think maybe Manvir Singh or Navreet Singh. I dont personally have any contacts, phone numbers with satkar campaign so I make benti to members on this forum to contact satkar campaign to make sure they phone in on asian network if issue of Dudley protest comes up. Im pretty sure it will, asian network loves these sort of topics as they know this will be hot topic. If you haven't listened to show before it will shock you, many issues have come up before such as wearing kirpan to school, in this show a guest speaker was invited. She said she was 'sikh' but would never let her child attend a school wear any other kids wore a kirpan! I dont really listen to show anymore, can't bear to listen to so called 'sikhs' defendending anti-sikh ideoligies. So benti to satkar campaign if topic of dudley protests comes up, make sure you phone in.Otherwise I can guarantee it will be a 1hour show making sikhs out as thugs, trouble makers, militants etc waheguru ji ka khalsa! waheguru ji ki fateh!
  11. Surinder Kaur's ashes immersed Chander Parkash and Megha Mann Tribune News Service Badal, May 27 People from all walks of life converged on the cremation ground here today for the ceremony regarding the collecting of the ashes of Chief Minister Parkash Singh's wife, Surinder Kaur Badal. Head Damdami Taksal Baba Harnam Singh Dhuma, Sant Baba Nihal Singh Harianavelan Wale, Baba Labh Singh Kar Sewa Wale and president SGPC Avtar Singh were among those present. Tearful adieu to Punjab CMs wife Surinder Kaur Badal Punjab Newsline Network Thursday, 26 May 2011 Eminent religious and spiritual personalities including Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar Takhat Sri Keshgarh Sahib Giani Tarlochan Singh, Jathedar Takhat Sri Damdama Sahib Giani Balwant Singh Nandgarh, Head Damdami Taksal Baba Harnam Singh Dhuma, Head Dera Radha Swami Beas Baba Gurinder Singh, Sant Man Singh Pehowawale, Sant Amrik Singh Kar Sewa Wale, Baba Kashmira Singh, President SGPC Mr. Avtar Singh and Prof. Kirpal Singh Baduangar and Bibi Jagir Kaur (both former Presidents of SGPC) =========================================================================== Baba Thakur Singh ji, even in his old age, went to families all over the world from country to country, collecting money from families. What did he do with the money? Baba ji gave it to families whose members got shaheed during operation bluestar and after. Baba ji served the panth until his last breath, he wouldn't even share same room with badal. Its dissapointing to see above just how many jathedars of so many jathebandiya attended funeral of surinder badal. Just look at photo below:- Above jhoota sauda leader (accused of many crimes) pretending to be, Guru Gobind Singh ji. Picture below shows parkash badal and his son sukhbir badal(next leader of akali dal) visiting his dera! Sadh sangat ji. Why hasn't Badal been punished for this? Why haven't our leader come on tv, sent letters, or made panth aware of this? Why are they not speaking out? First question Badal on why he is supporting a rapist cult leader. If he can give a good answer then fine, it is okay to attend funeral of his wife. There are so many questions that need to be answered by badal, why isn't he helping shaheed families, what about our soorme like shaminder singh shera and sohan singh. why haven't their cases been investigated? Why haven't police officers been punished? Why does wife of badal get so much satkaar? Who attented funeral of our shaheed singhs? parnaam shaheeda nuu!!!!!!!! Please jathedar Akal Takht ji, please jathedar SGPC and benti to all other jathebandiya. Help the families of our shaheed singhs, they may not be famous, they may not be wealthy, but surely they deserve respect too!! waheguru ji ka khalsa! waheguru ji ki fateh!
  12. Found news on tribuneindia.com, SGPC the highest, most respected gurdwara comittee for sikh panth, closed its office as a mark of respect for surinder kaur badal following her death: Cutting across party lines, leaders express grief Tribune News Service Amritsar, May 24 SGPC chief Avtar Singh Makkar has expressed sorrow at the demise of CM's wife Surinder Kaur. "She supported her husband throughout his political career and helped him to achieve success", he said, recalling that she had initiated a unique campaign to serve at Sri Guru Ramdas Langar at the Golden Temple. The SGPC offices and its educational institutions will remain closed tomorrow as a mark of respect to the deceased. Kanwar Pal Singh of the Dal Khalsa, Harpal Singh Cheema of the SAD (Panch Pardhani), Khalsa Action Committee chairman Mohkam Singh and Baba Baljit Singh Daduwal have also expressed grief at the death. == Also as you can see above it is reported Baba Baljit Singh and other panthic organistions expressed grief at death of surinder kaur. Theres no point discussing life of surinder kaur now, like all of us, she will be judged by dharam rai. I have great respect for Baba Baljit singh and above mentioned organistions they are all contributing to panth fighting panthic issues, especially Baba Baljit Singh ji speaking out against jhoota sauda openly in his diwans, visiting and giving money to shaheed familys etc. Whats so frustrating is why CLOSE SGPC OFFICES AND INSTUTIONS?!?! For the death of the wife of chief minister?!?! For wife of Chief Minister Parkash Badal, SGPC closes its offices and instutions.For wife of Badal, Jathedar of Akal Takht performs ardas. For wife of Chief Minister Badal, jathedar Akal Takht gives speech on ptc news. I ask you question, Sadh Sangat ji!! Tell me what did Jathedar Makkar, Jathedar Akal Takht, Shiromoni Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee do as a 'MARK OF RESPECT' when Bhai Sohan Singh ji and Shaminder Singh Shera were tortured and killed by police? Which Jathedar attended their funeral? Which Jathedar performed ardas at their funeral? Who closed their offices? Which jathedar comes on tv to talk to panth for these shaheed singhs? Or are only chief ministers granted this privelage? We keep talking about freedom, khalistan, justice. We need to start at the route of problem, which I think is SGPC. How can we get good gursikhs into SGPC? How can we free SGPC from being controlled by political parties? Imagine if the SGPC president had leader like bhai amolak singh(akj)!! Alas!! Maharaj kirpa karo!! we need a leader who will serve the panth not politics. Who would you elect to SGPC president? How can we make the SGPC an independent panthic institution? What are the solutions sangat ji! waheguru ji ka khalsa! waheguru ji ki fateh!
  13. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh bhai sahib khalistan-zindabad ji its good to hear that Baba Thakur Singh Ji wouldnt even share same room with badal. this current situation in panth is so frustrating! I once heard katha of harnam singh on sikh channel, it was on sooraj parkash. its clear harnam singh has knowledge on sikhi. same goes for jathedar of akal takht gurbachan singh, to get to jathedar of akal takht im thinking you must have certain required amount of knowledge on guru granth sahib and certain done amount of seva. which makes it so confusing as to why harnam singh and jathedar gurbachan singh would side with an individual who is so anti-panthic?!?! after reading Guru Granth Sahib ji, reading jeevan of Guru Sahiban, Char Sahibzade etc How can you stand with someone such as badal who has done so much damage to panth?!?! The only excuse I can think of is that harnam singh doesn't have information on things badal has done. I wonder if there are any singhs on this forum who know harnam singh and can send him photos of badal visiting deras and other anti-panthic stuff. Then see what response harnam singh gives. If he still stands by badal, then he is definitely not worthy of being jathedar of damdami taksal. Baba Thakur singh ji had bhagti, Jathedar Jarnail Singh Khalsa ji Bhindrawale had bhagti. They were true panthic leaders. Sache patshah! kirpa karo! we are in desperate need for a leader of the panth! Sache patshah! kirpa karo! waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh!
  14. Just watched ptc news channel(badals news channel,822 on sky, will be repeated at 5pm today) Jathedar akal takht and Jathedar harnam singh dhumma(damdami taksal) attended funeral of surinder kaur badal. Jathedar harnam singh dhumma (damdami taksal) praised seva of surinder kaur badal. We all know that akal thakth jathedar and makkar(sgpc -president) would attend funeral and are always going to support badal. However jathedar harnam singh should keep distance from any political parties. All panthic jathebandiya like taksal and akj should not attend or have links with political parties and do as much parchar of gurmat. Badal also recently attended smagam of akj but jathedar bakshish singh(akj) left smagam when he found out badal would be coming. It is dissapointing to see panthic leaders supporting badal. I think definitely here in uk we are more clued up when it comes to politcs in punjab. All you have to do is type badal in google and see images of badal parwar visiting sirsa dera, ashutosh etc. Maybe somebody in uk can send jathedar harnam singh giving him information on both parties captain(congress) and badal(akali dal) on their anti-panthic stuff they have done. If jathedar harnam singh were shown pictures of badal visiting deras it would be interesting to see his response. This post is not really attack on surinder kaur. She is gone now and her karams will be judged by dharam rai. It must be difficult time for badal family, losing wife and mother is always difficult. This post is directed at panthic leaders to wake up. Ive lost hope in sgpc and akal takht, their under control of badal. Im 100% sure if sant jarnail singh bhinrdawale were here, he would of spoken out against badal(akali dal) and captain amarinder singh(congress) meeting ashutosh, jhoota sauda leaders. No way sant ji would have stayed silent. Jathedar harnam singh needs to follow example of previous jathedar Sant Jarnail Singh, be fearless and speak out against anti-panthic forces, regardless of what political postion they hold. Job of giving tankhah(punishment) for violating maryada is job of akal takht jathedar. But if jathedar is attending and speaking at programs organized by wife of sukhbir singh badal, how is he going to give tankhah?! jathedar should visit all pinds(villages) of punjab and be reviving sikhi, giving assistance to gianis, kirtania, kthavackaks who are spreading gurmat teachings. We all need to to do ardas to maharaj to free our panthic organisations, sgpc, akal takht from political parties, otherwise we will never achieve khalistan, freedom, justice etc maharaj kirpa karo!!!! make our leaders, jathedars of takhts and jatha's, into fearless lions like sant jarnail singh ji khalsa bhindrawale and bhai fauja singh ji!!!!!
  15. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fatehaccording to parmeshardwar site, baani.net broadcasts diwan live every sangrand. haven't tried it before but diwan is at 9pm india so should be around 4pm uk time. rabb rakha waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
  16. ================================================================================= waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh! 5 evils, panj chor(lust(kaam), anger(krodh), greed(lobh), attachement(moh), pride(hankaar)) Is this what you are referring to as 5 evils? If so, then brother, it is hard for anybody to say that they are free from these 5 evils. In one's home, in one's family, outside in the street, in your estate in your city wherever you go it is easy to see the panj chor have almost total power in this world. I say almost because gursikhs, those rare people, the ones who follow dhan, dhan, guru granth sahib ji and obey the hukams of guru ji, the 5 evils drop at their feet, the 5 evils become the slaves of those individuals. Only by reading and understanding gurbani can we recognise and then fight the 5 chor. Where else is this vital information contained, i have only found this in guru granth sahib ji. I don't think you can 'commit' the 5 evils as you say but rather I think you can indulge or get absorbed in these evils. We need to keep the 5 evil evils under control as best we can. How? Read and do paath of gurbani, this is definitely the best medicine to cure the disease of panj chor. The less we indulge in panj chor, the less we are attached to worldly things and the more we obey the bachans(commandents) of guru sahib then the more virtuous we will become. By reading paath, keeping rehit and doing naam simran we will automatically and easily obtain the 5 virtues:- Sat(Truth), Santokh(Contentment), Daya(Compassion), Nimrata(Humility), Pyar(Love). I think all of us have committed mistakes and fallen down on this path but that is due to our own weaknesses. Remember whatever virtues we have we must retain those virtues. Don't return to bad habits just because we make one mistake. One mistake doesn't mean we become demons. Let's analyse our weakness, what is the source of our weakness and with the aid of gurbani we can eliminate this weakness from our lives. The shabad(gurbani) is the weapon we can use to destroy panj chor. Let's use it! May Guru Ji bless us with his kirpa(mercy) so we become virtuous! Stay in Chardi Kala! Dhan, Dhan, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!
  17. The current situation of the world is very dark. Reading gurbani one realises just how bad the current climate is. Wherever you look you see people totally engrossed under this illusion of maya. The 5 thieves (panj chor) have total control of the world. Nearly every advertisement on billboards or tv has some sort of kaam(sexual) image. Why do you need a half naked women to sell a car?! When one walks down the street he hears the filthiest language being used, it seems as if people can't say one sentence without swearing. Kaam and krodh(anger) are prelevant everywhere nonone can deny this. If we can't even break the bonds of kaam and krodh what chance do we have to defeat lobh, moh and hankaar? Whats worrying is that you I see kesh dhari singhs swearing and talking about sexual things as if its the just normal. First of all we need to recognise what maya and the panj chor are. Where to find out? GURBANI Only when one can recognise the panj chor then only can he/she decipher between good and bad actions. Once you recognise the panj chor you will never ever feel like swearing or using foul language. One will try his upmost to have honor. To have honor you have to stay away from kaam. Its easy to talk about how good everything is. But if you take a step back and analyse thing through the lens of gurbani you will then realise why the current time we are living in is called kaljug(dark age) There is only one hope an that hope is dhan dhan sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji!!!!! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
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