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RDX

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  1. From the BBC Website "Beant Singh was killed on 31 August along with 17 others by a suicide bomber identified as Dilawar Singh. Rajoana was convicted of acting as a back-up suicide bomber should Singh have failed." I don't see anyone mentioning these innocents, surely they can't all have been bad, how would we feel if 18 Sikhs had been blown up, I know the arguments of thousands of innocent Sikhs killed but that does not make it right. I don’t suppose this post will stay up long but put yourself in the shoes of the families of these innocents
  2. So you're a part time Singh looking down on others.... Good lad, now go and get a life.
  3. Really, and are you going to administer it WLS? Take that attitude to Punjab now and as the old punjabi saying goes "Your maternal Grandmother will come to mind"
  4. Most Sikhs (mainly Jatts) have sown their own seeds and let's see what the outcome will be. The refusal to knowledge the issue with complex technical arguments and spurious history lessons whilst knowingly ignoring the state of things today is bordering on delusional. When Jatts and Chamars are facing each other with machete's perhaps they will think of West London Singh's lecture and blame the whole thing on Heer Ranjha......dam that Waris Shah!! The killing of Sant Rammand was a big mistake, tensions were already building up but that incident was the catalyst, Chamars now have the confidence and won't be hushed, the week of rioting proved that, didn't hear of many Jatts or extreme Sikhs come out to face them. This board was rampant with anti Chamar feeling at the time of the incident, claiming the whole thing was a inside job, Chamar on Chamar violence. The hatred displayed to Chamars was evident so is it surprising that you now get songs like what the OP posted? Everyone was so keen to wait for the outcome of the trial and when it was proved that the killing was not an inside job, this board was very quiet on the subject, particularly when the other defendants blamed it on the one person who conveniently couldn't remember what happened, hardly the actions of brave martyrs as most on here hyped them up to be. Look, I'm not saying what Ramanand did was right, but the attitude that the Chammer leaders can be just eliminated and no consequences suffered are a thing of the past. The Chammars now want to go their own way, again certain Sikhs are unhappy with this saying they can't use the Bani of Ravidass, but the fact is they have done it already done it, what has anyone done about it? nothing because they know to pick a fight with Chammars is not to be taken lightly. Chammars rightly feel that they are not accepted fully within Sikhi and still get a hard time when they want to leave, is it not time we just gave them a break? Take your head out of the sand, smell the coffee, things are changing rapidly and it looks like it's going to end badly. I really really hope that things are not whipped up in the west because Punjab will pay the price, we'll all be safe behind our keyboards, so called superior tribes/castes throwing their weight around isn't going to be such a fun sport anymore, get used to it.
  5. No one has questioned the work of Khalsa Aid, I even said they did very good work, however does this give him the right to make such comments? This is typical Jatt superiority thinking coming through. Deep down Jatts feels they made the major contribution to Sikhi, so they deserve the power. Other castes have been made to feel the poorer cousins and it’s hardly surprising they’ve build their own Gurdwara’s. Everyone talks about unity within Sikhism but how is this ever going to happen when one community feels they made the major sacrifices, it needs to be dropped not defended with statistics as it is here. Why are you outraged that I referred to Bhai Satwant Singh & Beant Singh as low caste? One minute you say there is no castes in Sikhism then go on to say the Satwant Singh was a Kamboj, does this somehow move him up a class or two? The historical context during harvest season has nothing to do with modern Punjabi music. Today, Jatts are successfully pushing their own agenda using music by constantly celebrating their drinking capacity, fast cars, wealth etc, it’s the only community that feels the need to do this.. Why?? Over an hour I counted 7 out of 10 songs played on Brit Asia included the word Jatt, this never happed 10 or 15 years ago so don’t tell me it’s getting better.
  6. I also saw this and was quite disturbed. The chap in question was from Khalsa Aid. His word went along the lines of Jatts gave 95% of Kubanis and now people dislike/question them, Is this a suitable view for a senior charity worker to have? Secondly where does he get his figures from (can he back them up), is he really saying all the other castes put together only contributed 5% to Sikhi? Khalsa Aid are meant to be spreading Sikhi, how can this possibly help? The discussion was about why so many in Punjab had converted to Christianity, is he surprised when he himself holds these views, these are the very reason why they convert. Sikhism has nothing to offer them and being told they contributed virtually nothing to Sikhism doesn't help. It’s sad that a organisation that does such good word should be associated with comments like these. Khalistan is a contentious issue which I don’t want to go into now. The fact that Jatts predominantly led and supported Khalistan should tell you something, is it possible they had the most to gain? Ultimately it was two non Jatt, low castes bodyguards of Indera Gandhi who got the greatest prize for the Khalistan movement, surly that alone should qualify for a 5% contribution if Khalistan is the measure I don’t believe any other sikh community seriously considers themselves above Jatts, you may get the odd deluded person but this superiority complex is a Jatt thing and you argue all you want about ethnic tribes etc. With the media being mainly jatt controlled and nearly every Punjabi song with the word Jatt in it the situation is getting worse, not saying all Jatts but a good majority, certainly way more than other castes, tribes etc.
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