VanHelsingh

Yep, the vicious kind don't like the recitation of Gurbani for some reason. So keep on japping, I guess! :biggrin2:

Surely both families should get together and discuss how to proceed?

haha, no worries brother, I was just pulling your leg. Well if that's how you feel and your families are happy, then go for it. Good luck.

One would hope marriage is based on something more than liking and being cool with each other. I feel the same way about my postman but I'm not going to marry him, am I? :giggle:

Flipping heck, a bit much.

The author of Sri Sukhmani Sahib is capable of moving the universe if he wished to. The jewel that is that particular bani is apparent for anyone who recites it.

No bro, you are NOT too old fashioned. Live honourably and the right girl will love you and respect you for holding onto your principles.

Per its definition, adultery can never occur before marriage. Illicit relations can occur between unmarried people; adultery cannot. And, no, I've done either. :omg: Although, what's the concensus (in terms of Sikhi or even Panjabi culture) on an engaged female (or male) partaking in physical relations with someone other than their intended? That's really poor isn't it?

Exactly, and as long as that kind of dynastic nepotism continues, nothing will ever change in Panjab.

:nono:

Basically we're all homos in one way or another; they're homosexuals and we're all homosapiens (including gays), so we should all just get along. I was going to say we should all "rub up together" but I don't think that turn of phrase would be suitable in this particular situation. :giggle:

It's been called Bradistan since the 80s I think, lol.

IMO that should NEVER be done. When you start doing such things and retroactively altering scriptuers (regardless of whether we believe in them or not) you're basically setting a precedent; and a dangerous one at that. I doubt Muslims would let that happen tbh.

What did I say wrong, haha? Do you really want to see a clean-shaven Sikh sitting in Maharaj's hazoori? If there was an apocalypse and all the Singhs were out fighting or something, lol, then I could see the justification for that happening, but when there's so many Gursikhs ready and willing and have stepped onto the Path, then having the clean-shaven fella in that situation just seems a bit weird to me. He can do it all in his own home, I have no issue with that. In-fact I know some who do it all, and keep sucham, etc., but just can't make that final leap to keeping uncut hair. They aren't bad people. Yet Gurdwaras, as beacons for Sikhi not to just for us but non-Sikhs too, should highlight those who have given their head to Guru Sahib and they should be front and centre not just in deeds but from their heart too, of course. Just my opinion.

Even as a guy why would you want to wear a sleveless top at the Gurdwara? And yes I do have the arms to carry it off, but I'm also very self-aware of how I come across and to wear such an item at a Gurdwara when you should be focusing on your relaltionship with God, it just seems wholly inappropriate.

Brother, even some white people (not even the overly religious ones) raised in good homes frown upon frequenting pubs and clubs (I've come across a few recently and I was rather surprised), so a Guru Da Ladla or Ladli should really take a step back and think about what's going on if they're thinking about such things. I'll stay out of the "soft drink" debate but I guess it depends on where the individual would draw the line.

I'll just quote what Mehtab Singh Veer Ji wrote in another thread as I think it perfectly sums up the post above mine:

Oh I'm very sorry, sis, haha. I miss the 'Kaur' bit of your name and only seem to focus on the 'M' and the '89' bits!

It's obvious, bro. Maharaj's seva, langar seva, degh seva, etc., should be for Gursikhs. I don't think anybody can stop moneh from doing dishes and general cleaning.

Yes, it gives everyone else an incentive to work towards that ideal. I appreciate historically there were moments when there weren't Gursikhs around for various reasons, and non-Gursikhs stepped up to fill the void, but where there is willing Gursikhs available to do seva then, without breaking any hearts or the shardaa of moneh, just make it clear that seva must be carried out by those who have taken Amrit.

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Sis, just jap Naam where-ever you are. Even 'Waheguru Waheguru' is wonderful. Don't give up.

We need more Singhni's and Sikh girls to come forward and speak out about issues such as these. Sometimes one gets the impression they just don't care about things that don't affect their lives directly. I can appreciate where Sikh guys are coming from, even those who aren't after anything salacious. I can see it's a pretty huge diss for Sikh girls if a Sabat Soorat Singh finds a non-Sikh girl, gets her onto the path of Sikhi, and they both live a Sikhi lifestyle; I'd be pretty miffed at that as well if I was a Sikh female. :biggrin2:

From what I've heard, stuff like Sikh girls marrying Muslims guys is close to being a societal norm in Canada, with the girl's family flinging open their doors and welcoming their Muslim son-in-law into their homes, yet in the UK I'm pretty certain such news is greeted by people with the clicking of tongues and striking of the forehead with the hand. :lol2: