kurtas

All this nindya of this bheva is disgusting. Panthic weekly appear to have some sort of agenda against this great Sant baba Ji. How can people across the world accuse him of such vulgar dirty lowlife crimes. I doubt he has done these things as if you look at bheva it appears he would never have the time to do such crimes because he is always doing sewa for the Khalsa Panth. How could bheva find the time to do these crimes when he spends most of his time doing parchar and eating (you do not get such a great beer belly doing nothing).

H4rinder the proverbial bheva nuthugger can you not sue Panthic weekly ?

H4rinder what ever happened to the October or November 2006 bheva visit to the UK that you guys were claiming he would make ? Were you guys telling lies ?

Police Intervenes, Bans Anti-Saadh Pehowa Rally

Wednesday 31st of January 2007

Panthic Weekly News Bureau

Sikh Sangharsh Committee members flagging off thier protest march at Kartarpur

Kartarpur, Punjab (KP) - In an evident move to suppress the voices of the women who were victims of rape and battery at the hands of Pseudo-Baba Mann Pehowa, the polices forces of the Kartarpur district banned a peaceful protest organized by the Sikh Sangharsh Committee without having any warrant or justification to do so.

Panthic organizations have expressed outrage at this blatant move to ban their right to peaceful protest and said that this recent move by the Punjab police forces was yet another indication of the ongoing mockery of democratic law in the state.

As the police forces began to provoke the peaceful protestors, the organizers feared for the safety of the sangat and decided to conclude the rally at the Kartarpur venue. Despite the intimidation from the police, several of the leaders of the organization continued to present their views to the sangat. This was the second rally to be organized to bring about awareness of the crimes committed by Pehowa, but despite the police intimidation the victims and others present at the rally expressed resolution in their cause.

Punjab Police keeping tab on anti-Saadh protestors

Dr. Gurwinder Singh Samra, Chairman of the Committee, expressed grief over the unwarranted police intervention. He said that even though the police was determined to suppress the voice of the Sikh Community, the truth about Mann Pehowa would be made known to sangat throughout the world, to ensure that no more innocent women become his victims. He declared that if the Punjab police do not arrest Mann Pehowa within the next ten days, the Legislative Assembly will be approached by the committee to ensure that justice prevails.

Dr. Samra also announced that because of the baseless police interventions in the committee's campaign to expose Maan Pehowa, the committee would change its strategies to accomplish the mission of bringing Pehowa to justice. The committee's next step in exposing Pehova includes a village to village information and leaflet campaign. Dr. Samra also laid out many serious allegations against the pseudo-Baba while saying that proofs of over 35 rape cases are present with the committee.

Furthermore, he said that according to three recently discovered cases, followers of Mann Pehowa had forced three Sikh women who were victims of rape, to have forced abortions in a private hospital. Mentioning another case, Dr. Samra alleged that because of Pehowa's vicious actions, a 16-year-old girl is unable to get married. Samra also noted that 13 Sikh women who were victims of Pehowa are now actively working with the Sikh Sangarsh Committee to create awareness about his crimes and to ensure that other innocent women would not become his next target. Former 'sevadars' of Pseudo-Baba Mann Pehowa including Sahib Singh, Bikram Singh and around 15 others who left the self proclaimed 'Sant' after they came to know about Pehowa's serious crimes have also joined the committee.

Leaders of many other Panthic organizations, including the Shahbaaz Khalsa, All India Sikh Student Federation, Akhand Kirtani Jatha, Sikh Parchaar Committee (Amritsar), All India Youth Seva Dal, Sant Samaj, Rara Sahib Samprada, Sikh Council of India and Baba Banda Singh Society (America), were also present at the rally.

A spokesperson from Shahbaaz Khalsa reiterated the frustration that the peaceful protestors had expressed about the unwarranted and baseless suppression of the rally by the Kartarpur police. "This is nothing new for us, evidently this is a democracy only on paper, and Punjab remains a police state. Despite all of the evidence that the committee has gathered against this fraud, the police and government officials continue to grant impunity to Pehowa.

Indeed the Punjab police don't have any trouble intimidating innocent protestors, but turn a blind eye when it comes to addressing the plight of the victims of rape."

Pakhand rapist Maan didnt come to the UK as feelings were made clear to H4rinder baba ,and he must have conveyed the msg to Mr Rapist and fearing for his safety he canceled his trip aww what a shame NOT,watch these videos do you call this seva of the khalsa panth more like hes looking for the next fit bird to take into his dera http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/2872/2006-11-01.html

Wow H4rinder and the others in the Bheva fan club would not tell lies would they ? He must have come to the UK in late 2006 as they said he would. If not they told lies (just like the lies & defamation they undertake of one of the victims).

Singh is UK citizen and you resides in UK (?).. so u saying that u can't do anything besides emailing ur elected leaders ??

Anyway, to me it seems like you have grudge against ddt and others and u r using this issue to throw dirt on them..

Now what have you done besides your pathetic post here ?

No, i haven't done anything veerjee and neither i am throwing dirt on others.

If one is dedicated to do anything, he/she will do it without making loud noises.

Please fell free to read my previous posts and you will see how highly I regard the sacrifice of true Gursikhs from Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji to Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji. As for Dhuma yes I think the guy is a puppet of RSS Mokham and GOI Rode. He has let the reputation of the DDT down.

Now tell me what did you do in the USA when Harpal Singh Cheema (??) was extradited ? Or when Barapind was extradited ? No good asking others what they do if you do jack didly yourself.

The cimple fact that you have done nothing shows you are one of those people who point fingers at others but do nothing themselves. I have taken the time to send emails etc. You have done nothing besides posting your pathetic post. In the same time it took you to post here you could have emailed several people mentioned in the sticky thread. But I guess you just too lazy.

kurtas u always mention wednesfield? sum peopel already seenit, and no1 saw anything there so get ya facts straight and get sum pics and bang em on sikh sangat so people can see whats happening!!

Please check my past posts and you can see for yourself I always mention Bradford, Huddersfield, a few in Birmingham, Leamington and Wednesfield. I have never singled out any of these Gurdwara where the lame committee people have thought it a fine idea to have a party hall.

The only time I specifically mentioned Wednesfield may have been when the likes of Ranjit Singh Dhadrian or Maan Su Pehowa had a program booked there (but I also mentioned Huddersfield or one of the other party hall places where he had a program booked). This was in line with the clarification issued by the Akal Takht and to ask Ranjit Singhs followers to ask him to impress on the committee people that party palaces were against Sikhism.

The place is funded by Guru Jis golak. Similarly the Ramgharia Gurdwara in central Birmingham still has its party hall named after the great Jassa Singh Ji Ramgharia which is across the road. The one in Bradford is a 30 second walk away (same with Huddersfield where the vulgar low life committee wale named the place the Sikh Community Centre).

Why you so concerned about me mentioning the Wednesfield one ? You live there ? If you live there when you going to rush em ? Tell me does it not have a party hall anymore? I am sure it does because I was invited to a party held there in late 2006.

You appear to live there so feel free to get the pictures yourself. Next time I am at one of these Gurdwara I too will take a few pictures and we can have a name and shame gallary for the committe folks.

How come Kurtas didn't do anything to free those singhs?

Its easy to blame others..

Why dont you bother looking at the facts of the situation ?

The Singh arrested are all alligned with the DDT ! So why does the DDT not bother taking some action to free them ? Should Dhuma not be launching a morcha ? Just shows how Dhuma is a complete failure. Would Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji have shied away from the situation ? NO !!! When Singh were arrested and abused for being Gursikhs he made it clear to policia that he wanted them released etc.

As far as what I have done I have emailed the local MP, MEP and a few Ministers in the UK. I have emailed a few people in India.

Now what have you done besides your pathetic post here ?

this people who find this type of act funny r stupid!!!!!!!!!!

pure beadbii!!!!

sum1 find out who it is so we can rush em!!!!!!!

Probably more than one such place near where you live so if you have a few minutes go rush em.

Other places that have party halls include : Bradford, Huddersfield, a few in Birmingham, Wednesfield etc etc.

What a blatent missuse of Sikhi.

The guy sounds like a typical no-mark. The usual idiotic type who remember to use their faith when they are in a tricky situation. I never knew that Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj instructed his Singh to wear commando style patka. I bet the no-mark is also one of those who like a trimmed beard. So police interfering with patka is a no no and but it is ok for him to trim his beard.

These type of people are just as bad as the lad in scotland who had a haircut and claimed he had been beaten up.

I think you really need to read the article properly before you make any comments. DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHATS ON HIS HEAD AS LONG AS HE COVERS HIS HEAD. Dyamn! You can call it mini dastar, you can call whatever. How do you know hes got a trimmed beard etc, have you seen him? No, well keep those comments to yourself. Emi baas!

I guess you are right. Of casue it does not matter what you wear on your head as long as it is covered. So be it a muslim or jewish style scullcap, rastafarian style hat or a simple baseball cap, as long as the hair is covered it is ok.

What a load of bolla£s. Stopping making up Sikhi, since when has the pathetic punjab police commando style patka been a valid replacement for a proper dastaar.

Yes I know him, he is a complete no mark and not the shining Sikh you guys are trying to paint him as. Go find out whether he has taken Amrit and is proper Kahlsa before backing him to the hilt. The guy is not a Khalsa yet uses Sikhi to have a go at the police. Pathetic ! When you ask him also ask him about the money he does not run through his accounts to avoid paying tax. Does Sikhi allow him to do that ?

I'm too se%y for my dastaar too se%y for my dastaar

So se%y it hurts

And i'm too se%y for phagwara too se%y for phagwara

Ludhiana and Moga

And i'm too se%y for your party

Too se%y for your party

No way i'm bhangra dancing

I'm a model you know what I mean

And I wear my little commando patka on the catwalk

Yeah on the catwalk on the catwalk yeah

I do my little tatee on the catwalk

your an <banned word filter activated>, try to be a sikh yourself, instead of having an arrogant attitude towards everyone.

Yes I am an <banned word filter activated> and very happy to be one but I will not use my dharam as an excuse for me being an <banned word filter activated>.

If you want to see arrogance go visit Johnny Singh.

The point is whether this gentleman was a mona or not and whether he was wearing a 'patka' just for some nominal symbolism.

I do not think an avg British cop has the guts to ask a proper Sikh to remove his headgear. They live in mortal fear of racism charges being flung at them.

Oh gosh, good heavens he could not be wearing a patka for nominal symbolism. He must be pucca Khalsa who has hukumnama which allows him to swap a real dastaar for a tea towell or should I say bad boy style bandanna so he can pretend he is an extra from a rap video.

What a blatent missuse of Sikhi.

The guy sounds like a typical no-mark. The usual idiotic type who remember to use their faith when they are in a tricky situation. I never knew that Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj instructed his Singh to wear commando style patka. I bet the no-mark is also one of those who like a trimmed beard. So police interfering with patka is a no no and but it is ok for him to trim his beard.

These type of people are just as bad as the lad in scotland who had a haircut and claimed he had been beaten up.

I think you really need to read the article properly before you make any comments. DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHATS ON HIS HEAD AS LONG AS HE COVERS HIS HEAD. Dyamn! You can call it mini dastar, you can call whatever. How do you know hes got a trimmed beard etc, have you seen him? No, well keep those comments to yourself. Emi baas!

I guess you are right. Of casue it does not matter what you wear on your head as long as it is covered. So be it a muslim or jewish style scullcap, rastafarian style hat or a simple baseball cap, as long as the hair is covered it is ok.

What a load of bolla£s. Stopping making up Sikhi, since when has the pathetic punjab police commando style patka been a valid replacement for a proper dastaar.

Yes I know him, he is a complete no mark and not the shining Sikh you guys are trying to paint him as. Go find out whether he has taken Amrit and is proper Kahlsa before backing him to the hilt. The guy is not a Khalsa yet uses Sikhi to have a go at the police. Pathetic ! When you ask him also ask him about the money he does not run through his accounts to avoid paying tax. Does Sikhi allow him to do that ?

I'm too se%y for my dastaar too se%y for my dastaar

So se%y it hurts

And i'm too se%y for phagwara too se%y for phagwara

Ludhiana and Moga

And i'm too se%y for your party

Too se%y for your party

No way i'm bhangra dancing

I'm a model you know what I mean

And I wear my little commando patka on the catwalk

Yeah on the catwalk on the catwalk yeah

I do my little tatee on the catwalk

i cant update mine cuz i have a fake version of xp

MUAHHAHAHAHAHA (evil laugh)

Always ways around it.

Bang on Firefox and visit following site to get security updates :

http://windowsupdate.62nds.com

Usually a few weeks behind proper MS but better late than never.

Get hold of Tiny XP and install that on your PC. It runs pretty well on resource limited pc's.

I have seen it run with boot up time of 40seconds on a few 800mhz PCs with 128 ram.

In December we had the 3 Singh arrested on false charges and acts of profanity committed against them.

To date Rode and *edit* Dhuma have done nothing to get them released. Why are they silent ? How can *edit* Dhuma find time to make noise about trivial issues, attend congress party funtions and allow his buddies like Mokham to hold talks with RSS Rulda YET they have not had the time to do anything for these 3 singh. Why has Dhuma not got his buddies in the Sant Samaj together and started some sort of morcha to free these Singh ?

All this nindya of this bheva is disgusting. Panthic weekly appear to have some sort of agenda against this great Sant baba Ji. How can people across the world accuse him of such vulgar dirty lowlife crimes. I doubt he has done these things as if you look at bheva it appears he would never have the time to do such crimes because he is always doing sewa for the Khalsa Panth. How could bheva find the time to do these crimes when he spends most of his time doing parchar and eating (you do not get such a great beer belly doing nothing).

H4rinder the proverbial bheva nuthugger can you not sue Panthic weekly ?

H4rinder what ever happened to the October or November 2006 bheva visit to the UK that you guys were claiming he would make ? Were you guys telling lies ?

Police Intervenes, Bans Anti-Saadh Pehowa Rally

Wednesday 31st of January 2007

Panthic Weekly News Bureau

Sikh Sangharsh Committee members flagging off thier protest march at Kartarpur

Kartarpur, Punjab (KP) - In an evident move to suppress the voices of the women who were victims of rape and battery at the hands of Pseudo-Baba Mann Pehowa, the polices forces of the Kartarpur district banned a peaceful protest organized by the Sikh Sangharsh Committee without having any warrant or justification to do so.

Panthic organizations have expressed outrage at this blatant move to ban their right to peaceful protest and said that this recent move by the Punjab police forces was yet another indication of the ongoing mockery of democratic law in the state.

As the police forces began to provoke the peaceful protestors, the organizers feared for the safety of the sangat and decided to conclude the rally at the Kartarpur venue. Despite the intimidation from the police, several of the leaders of the organization continued to present their views to the sangat. This was the second rally to be organized to bring about awareness of the crimes committed by Pehowa, but despite the police intimidation the victims and others present at the rally expressed resolution in their cause.

Punjab Police keeping tab on anti-Saadh protestors

Dr. Gurwinder Singh Samra, Chairman of the Committee, expressed grief over the unwarranted police intervention. He said that even though the police was determined to suppress the voice of the Sikh Community, the truth about Mann Pehowa would be made known to sangat throughout the world, to ensure that no more innocent women become his victims. He declared that if the Punjab police do not arrest Mann Pehowa within the next ten days, the Legislative Assembly will be approached by the committee to ensure that justice prevails.

Dr. Samra also announced that because of the baseless police interventions in the committee's campaign to expose Maan Pehowa, the committee would change its strategies to accomplish the mission of bringing Pehowa to justice. The committee's next step in exposing Pehova includes a village to village information and leaflet campaign. Dr. Samra also laid out many serious allegations against the pseudo-Baba while saying that proofs of over 35 rape cases are present with the committee.

Furthermore, he said that according to three recently discovered cases, followers of Mann Pehowa had forced three Sikh women who were victims of rape, to have forced abortions in a private hospital. Mentioning another case, Dr. Samra alleged that because of Pehowa's vicious actions, a 16-year-old girl is unable to get married. Samra also noted that 13 Sikh women who were victims of Pehowa are now actively working with the Sikh Sangarsh Committee to create awareness about his crimes and to ensure that other innocent women would not become his next target. Former 'sevadars' of Pseudo-Baba Mann Pehowa including Sahib Singh, Bikram Singh and around 15 others who left the self proclaimed 'Sant' after they came to know about Pehowa's serious crimes have also joined the committee.

Leaders of many other Panthic organizations, including the Shahbaaz Khalsa, All India Sikh Student Federation, Akhand Kirtani Jatha, Sikh Parchaar Committee (Amritsar), All India Youth Seva Dal, Sant Samaj, Rara Sahib Samprada, Sikh Council of India and Baba Banda Singh Society (America), were also present at the rally.

A spokesperson from Shahbaaz Khalsa reiterated the frustration that the peaceful protestors had expressed about the unwarranted and baseless suppression of the rally by the Kartarpur police. "This is nothing new for us, evidently this is a democracy only on paper, and Punjab remains a police state. Despite all of the evidence that the committee has gathered against this fraud, the police and government officials continue to grant impunity to Pehowa.

Indeed the Punjab police don't have any trouble intimidating innocent protestors, but turn a blind eye when it comes to addressing the plight of the victims of rape."

Any updates on this case ?

Leicester Sikhs any response from Keith Vaz as to when he will table an early day motion like he did for non UK citizen Shilpa Shetty ?

Looks like the political establishment are once again dragging their heels over Sikh issues. I bet if it had been Mr Abdul Khan (UK citizen) held in India the UK government would be making some sort of effort to get him freed.

As far as I am concerned the local Labour MP (and council wala) can discount my vote in future elections. They take us for granted. During election time the MP will come to Gurdwara to seek votes. The pathetic committee wale give him stage time as if he is Jesus Christ. All committee wale should demand action or no stage time. Also at the various mela the local MP gets to sit on stage and make political speaches. It is time they were put on the spot and asked why the UK sarkar has failed to do jack diddly to get UK citizen Paramjit Singh freed. They took a similar line last time he was imprisoned in India on false charges.

What a blatent missuse of Sikhi.

The guy sounds like a typical no-mark. The usual idiotic type who remember to use their faith when they are in a tricky situation. I never knew that Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj instructed his Singh to wear commando style patka. I bet the no-mark is also one of those who like a trimmed beard. So police interfering with patka is a no no and but it is ok for him to trim his beard.

These type of people are just as bad as the lad in scotland who had a haircut and claimed he had been beaten up.

Do Jatha Singhs only use Akaal Takht?

As we all know their are many jathas etc.. that do not follow Takht Maryada. But what i have noticed whenever their is beadbi etc.. or something these jathas do not like, they will say its agaisnt the hukam of Akaal Takht. e.g the ik niwas situation and places were their are chairs and tables in the gurdwara. Singhs From Jathas etc.. try to protest etc.. agaisnt such beadbi and try and use the authority of Akaal Takht to support their arguments agaisnt matters, but then at the same time they themselves do not follow Takht maryada.

Do Jatha Singhs only use Akaal Takht?

Sorry if my post dont make sense.

it is funny how everyone curses the akaal takht and vedanti, but run around vedanti to get special hukamnama written out.

RUpinder singh nailed it on the head.

as for khalistan zindabad, i don't follow any certain individual, i listen to those how have studied guru granth sahib ji and know guru sahibs bani "inside and out". whatever any person says, if it doesnt go correct according to gurbani then he or she is not worthy of being listened too. whatever katha or lecture i listen has to be according to the philosphy of guru granth sahib i and not any certain individual.

Akaal Takht will always be great!

Howevere the people who are sitting there, are just there for the work of badal. We always say vedenti is badal daa chumcha. However when it comes down to him taking out certain "hukamana's" we go, "Jathedar Ji has written a hukamnama to this and that". Our only hukam is Guru Granth Sahib ji and all hukamnamas should be issued according the guru granth sahib ji not anyones personal agenda

Some interesting points.

People are very selective in which Hukumnama they choose to follow. It is rather like them bolt-ons you can get for some of the pay as you go tariffs. People pick and choose which Hukumnama they want to follow and despite things that counter their distortion of Sikhi they will not accept the Hukumnama. The one on meat being a prime example, yet most the people who are anti meat follow many other decisions of corrupt Jathedar like Vedanti and his predecessors.

"If they are real Sant then they are naturally Brahmgiani"

Im afriad most Sikh scholars (puratan and contemporary), theologians and anyone else trained in Sikh spirtual traditions would disagree, there are differences between Sadhu, Sant, and Brahmgiani - with the state of brahmgiani being the pinnacle of spirtual achievement. Sant Singh Maskin and various other have done kaha on it. However thats not the focus of discussion.

Come on explain ....

Are you telling me that Guru Ji and bhagats were not brahmgiani (this with the reference to Sant as in Gur Sant in Gurbani) ? If any scholar tells you that you should tell them to do one.

firstly i don't think we are able to decide who is and who is not a brahmgyani.

but saying that people do put too much emphasis on sant/ brahmgyanis from their "jatha's"

We should not be referring to anyone as a Sant or Brahmgiani. Our Guru Ji used the title for their predecessor Guru Ji and baghats like Bhagat Kabeer Ji.

The fact that these modern day t-series "Sant" cannot even agree on a common Rehat Maryada says it all about their claims of being one with Waheguru.

These sadhs have destroyed the sanctity of Sant / Brahmgiani.

If they are real Sant then they are naturally Brahmgiani. But see for yourselves they cant even agree on a common Rehat Maryda. Why dont they all get together and a few members of the Sant Samaj could ask Waheguru directly to clarify what exactly the Rehat Maryada should be.

The lack of concensus on the Rehat Maryada shows them up for what they really are.

MARYADA FOR KESH.

The only best solution for this problem of dandruff etc, is to wash your hair everyday with cold water (not very cold) with a anti dandruff shampoo. Then thoroughly dry your hair using a towel and then sparingly use a hair dryer. Once hair is thoroughly dry get 10 ml Desi Ghee and melt it in the microwave and then get somebody to thoroughly do a massage in your hair for about 20 mins. All the oil will absorb into your scalp you will get the feeling that your head has become BRAND NEW because of increased circulation and the head massage.

Donot do the idea that RAJU suggests of washing with cold and then with hot and then with cold etc this is crazy and will give you as cold/headache.

You ever been for a sauna ? Well you have a cold shower then into the sauna and repeat this every now and then. I have done this loads of times and never got a cold.

I have some research on this dandruff. ANd I have come up with the least expensive solution for both scalp and beard hair.

Firstly Dandruff as you know happens more in winter than summer and this is esp because the blood circulation during winter to areas covered by hair goes down and a typically a person with oily skin has a greasy scalp during this period. This greasy scalp then becomes flaky and starts to shed as dandruff.

The secret to removing this condition is more blood circulation to the affected areas esp scalp or near and below the beard. To increase circulation the best option is that when taking a shower, try to alternate between hot and cold water on your scalp. This will immidiately lift blood circulation in the area and you will immidiately notice a change in dandruff.

A lot of sunshine on the scalp or beard will also reduce the incidence of dandruff because your skin will then sweat and blood circulation will naturally increase.

But since sunshine isn't always possible in winter, the alternating between cold and hot water idea is the best.

If you have dandruff you tend to have dry itchy skin. So you will scratch the area, this will cause irritation etc with the eventual result of the bodies inflammation reaction being invoked. This will lead to the arterio venus anastomoses and pre capillary sphincters relaxing so there will be plenty of blood circualting in the area, but no relief.

Best bet is to try Nizoral or T-Gel shampoo. These are expensive but are much better than the cosmetic shampoos you cna buy in supermarkets for controlling dandruff.

i know what that means :cool: lol... seriously though what did u jus say?

Ummm.... ok basically if you scratch too much the area gets red, that is a sign of inflammation. The reason for the area getting red is that the underlying capillary beds are full of blood. For the blood to get to the area the supply to the area is basically relaxed. The arteriol (artery supplying the area relaxes so blood rushes to the area), the pre capillary sphincters control blood flow to capillary beds and these also relax. Hey presto lots of blood in the area. The Arterio venous anastomoses I guess would dilate not relax to ensure the blood did not bypass the capillary beds on its way to the venule.

I am no medical expert but I am sure we have a biologist/physiologist and maybe a GP on the boards who can clarify what I have said is correct or garbage.

This has probably been discussed before.

I have read lots of comments where references made to Sikh - such as a sikh would not do this or would not do that.

Does a sikh have to be amritari. Does a male sikh have to wear a turban. Apply with the 5 k's etc.

Myself I don't have any distingusihing features that I'm a sikh to another person. BUT in my heart, my pull towards god is strong. I do part, naam jaap as much as I can, do seva as much as I can, I don't drink, smoke, eat meat etc (strict veg). But if another singh with turban is stood next to me then he is looked on as the superior in sikhism than myself, even though he does non of the good thinks I do.

So if I don't wear a turban (as a male) am I still a sikh?

Remember before Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji created the Khalsa there were Sikhs. To this day the Sindhi people of Karachi still call themselves Guru Nanak Dev Jis Sikhs.

When are the prabandakhs at Gurdwara in Bradford, Birmingham, Wednesfield and Huddersfield going to respect the Akal Takht sandesh. Maybe those who convinced the Leeds committee to stop their manmat could have a word with the people running the party halls at the other Gurdwara.

Jathedar Vedanti was in the UK and as expected he kept himself hidden, he should have visited the Gurdwara whos committee are violating Gurmat and personally issued summons to them for hearing at the Akal Takht.

I have some research on this dandruff. ANd I have come up with the least expensive solution for both scalp and beard hair.

Firstly Dandruff as you know happens more in winter than summer and this is esp because the blood circulation during winter to areas covered by hair goes down and a typically a person with oily skin has a greasy scalp during this period. This greasy scalp then becomes flaky and starts to shed as dandruff.

The secret to removing this condition is more blood circulation to the affected areas esp scalp or near and below the beard. To increase circulation the best option is that when taking a shower, try to alternate between hot and cold water on your scalp. This will immidiately lift blood circulation in the area and you will immidiately notice a change in dandruff.

A lot of sunshine on the scalp or beard will also reduce the incidence of dandruff because your skin will then sweat and blood circulation will naturally increase.

But since sunshine isn't always possible in winter, the alternating between cold and hot water idea is the best.

If you have dandruff you tend to have dry itchy skin. So you will scratch the area, this will cause irritation etc with the eventual result of the bodies inflammation reaction being invoked. This will lead to the arterio venus anastomoses and pre capillary sphincters relaxing so there will be plenty of blood circualting in the area, but no relief.

Best bet is to try Nizoral or T-Gel shampoo. These are expensive but are much better than the cosmetic shampoos you cna buy in supermarkets for controlling dandruff.

any one know if my k800i will work in india even though it is locked on orange , will i have to unlock or will it work?

Yes you can roam using your Orange sim but be prepared for a big phone bill or heavy top-ups to use it in India.

Best bet is to get it unlocked (if possible, plenty of places in India do this as well) and put a Indian Sim (Airtel, Hutch) etc into it. Then you can phone UK for less than 10p a minute. The cost of the sim pays for itself after a fe wphone calls.

If the phone cannot be unlocked take an old unlocked phone with you. Nokias are very easy to unlock especially the old ones.

There was a time when all the pind flocked to see a facny phone but not anymore. I have seen illeterates carrying around smart phones that they have no idea to use.

H4rinder and co can you now please read the sticky thread in the general section on the 3 Gursikhs held in India and put the same effort you do in defending Bheva into writing emails etc to help free these 3 Gursikhs. H4rinder perhaps you could ask Bheva to get involved seeing as he has links to the "establishment".

Also H4rinder were you and the other Bheva followers not telling us he was gong to visit the UK in October/November 2006 ? What happened to that visit ? Were they just lies ?