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When those Muslims from Tipton were arrested the media had a frenzy and the BBC West Midlands news team could not go a few weeks without mentioning the "poor innocent" Tipton boys stuck in Guatanamo and interviewing senior US officials. Blair and co also went out on a limb to get them back to the UK. Now we have a Sikh (UK citizen just like the Tipton Muslims) and the media in the West Midlands from where Paramjit Dhaddi is from have not covered anything. No politicians are making any noises about the arrest. It would be interesting to know what exactly the Sikh Federation have done to get the news (especially the false charges and torture) in the public domain and to get the Government working to get the men released.

Have you tried restoring your system to a date when it was working ok ? This has saved my bacon a few times. Very easy to do with the system restore thing in XP.

"khalsa" s1ingh is probably a big gay lord so can recognise gay art when he sees it.

Author/editor (surname initials). Title [online]. Year [cited year month day]. Available from: URL: If there is no author you can go with following approach Title [online]. Year [cited year month day]. Available from: URL: Some people use the site as the author eg CNN.Com. Ask your lecturers if you have any doubts. If there is no date then instead of the date you can just use n.d. So in your text it would be something like. Singh et al (n.d) postulated that Jasbir Rode was a GOI agent. Do a search in google for Vancouver reference system. You should find a few links to guides on the system on academic web sites.

He will reap what he has sown by doing Nindya of Dhan Dhan Guru Har Rai Ji Mahraj. For anyone else who emails the site admin please be polite. Remember the result we had with the poker Guru site, although even then some narrow minded buffoons gave the Khalsa panth a bad name by sending obscene vulgar emails and threats. Interesting to see the normal brahmgiani 101 nindya coetrie have yet to provide any input on this thread.

Shame Pehowa no longer travels to Canada.

Still alive. He was shot a few times in his bu-m in the Romania incident. These dirty dogs could be prosecuted in the UK (using the precedent set by the Faryadi Zardad (afghan warlord) case). But as usual (myself included) are only good at talking. Dr Rai of Khalsa Human Rights should be lobbying for this as he has mountains of evidence of the torture and genocidal murders that took place in Punjab. Lord Goldsmith himself has stated that "An international convention and English law allow the trial in England of anyone who has committed torture or hostage-taking" Now we need to ask the police etc to enforce this. Many senior punjab police officers travel to Punjab. We have the recent case of Paramjit Singh Dhaddi. As the CM of Punjab is ultimately resposible for policing in Punjab the next time he is in the UK he should be hauled up and questioned by police. Those who ran death squads like Buta Su (governor of Bihar) should also face similar questioning. Tytlers etc can also face similar questioning and trial. Diplomatic immunity will not save them as there are easy ways to overcome the protection offered by this.

More than likely illegal immigrants compelled to work in unsafe conditions and provided with poor accomodation. The employer should be prosecuted for the deaths. It is time these dirty low life apne who employ illegal immigrants were prosecuted. They really s"rew these immigrants. The government needs to decided whether they want these immigrants in which case they should be granted work permits etc so at least they can work in safe conditions or they should start prosecuting the gangmasters who have become millionaires off the back of young punjabi lads.

Old wives tales like Nostradmus. Not written by Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj. Used by Namdharis quite often.

Mr Bir Ras Ji Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj settled the issue for most of us when he gave us the Guru Granth Sahib. Who can be more wiser than Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj ? I will never contest what Guru Ji taught us but will disagree with those who try and make their own mark on the natural flow on the teachings of Guru Ji by adding gurbani after hymns because they want to do what they call a sampat path. What if tomorrow some clever clogs decides to organise a path where they intercede Gurbani from Guru Ji with the Dasam Granth or Sarbloh Granth. Please accept the truth as given by Guru Arjan Dev Ji unless you think you know better than Guru Ji !!!

Yaar do you know who Maharaja Jassa Singh Ramgharia was?? You just throw around his name like it is nothing...Learn your history about one of Sikhis Greatest Heros then talk. ...so your telling me its wrong to call a gurudwara: Baba Deep Singh gurudwara or Sant Bhindranwale Gurudwara dont get me wrong there are a lot of gurudware called ramgharia that are aimed at caste but there are others that celebrate the legacy of Sardar Jassa singh. And boy 90% of Ramgharias dont believe in caste, i know because i am one and i dont shout it from the heavens 2 let everyone know because its all bull. neither does anyon i know...so yaar dont asume things because it offends people. He was never a Maharaja. It is time the tha-khans accepted this and stopped b/s. He was a misaldar just like the Bhangi Sardars etc were. The Bhangi sardars who in their hey days held sway over much more territory than Sardar Jassa Singh Ramgharia ever did are never referred to as Maharaja so time the tha-khans stopped this blatent lie. I guess it helps promote their agenda of separatism from the rest of the Khalsa Panth and promoting caste based Guru Ghar. Next Sardar Jassa Singh Ramgharia was ostracised by the rest of the misaldars as his wife was a kurri marr (daughter killer), so why pretend he was larger than this. If tha-khans want to use his name then they should honour his name instead of naming dirty seedy party halls after Sardar Jassa Singh Ji.

Do you break the flow of Gurbani by inserting a shabad of your choice after every shabad (as written to flow naturally by Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj) .....NO. With a Sehaj path you read Gurbani at a slower pace and over a longer period so you can understand what Guru Ji is telling us. There are no human decided insertions of Gurbani done as with a sampat path. The key with a sampat path is that you are inserting Gurbani of your choice after every hymn. How can some mere mortal decide this is better than what Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj taught us ? Unless of cause the mortal thinks they are up there with Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj. Do these mortals think they know better than Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj ? Rather lame analogy but for those who still do not understand, when you are taught to count by a school teacher you accept everything the teacher tells us as the gospel truth. When counting from 1 to a hundred you do not count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 then follow by 2,3,4 then 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 followed by 2,3,4 and so on until you reach 100. So why break the natural flow of Gurbani by Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj ? For me the teachings of Guru Ji are far superior to anything any teacher or any other mortal could teach you. Obvously some of you think that the truth as written by Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj needs alterations during its natural recital as intended by Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj by inserting other Gurbani.

The Phagwara unit of the SS have been disbanded as the leadership were $hit scared of badal and so they could win favours from him if the badal gang win the upcoming elections in Punjab. The SS lot in Punjab are a weird lot as the bal thackery SS in maharashtra have nothing to do with them and as they are non maratha they look down on them. Not too long ago a Ludhiana (Gur Mandi) the den of the local SS chief Jagdish Tangri was raided the police found a VCD production line for p()rn VCDs, magazines and photographs from the temple they had set up.

My comments were not directed at the GNNSJ. They were general observations about what I have seen at sampat paths ! If I wanted to have a go at Soho Road I could have questioned their so called gold plating sewa which catalysed damage to the Harimandir Sahib. Oooh blasphamy (LOL) Is it not blasphamy to break the bani as written by Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj ? Where does one stop ? What if tomorrow someone thinks it is ok to do Sukhmani Sahib after every Tuk ? Will that be ok ? If someone decides to shout Waheguru Waheguru 101 times after every shabad is that ok ? From my own observation it is a money maker for the Gurdwara I have seen it at. The giani at the Gurdwara get paid more for the extra rolla they do. The Gurdwara committee gains as more money is made, the langars are booked up well in advance (sometimes 2 per day). Maybe the giani etc at Soho Road are not paid in this manner so well done to them. The whole event is turned into a social event. Please spare me the lecture on calling Path a social event, Path never will be a social event. Attend a few Akhand Path and see for yourself how the families turn them into social events. I have even attended some where no one form the family bothered to turn up but they all turned up in the langar hall on Sunday. Great when people think the reading of Gurbani is a sideshow so they can entertain relatives with Samosa and spring rolls.

3 Sikhs have been arrested .Except Paramjit Singh Dhaadhi the other 2 are very close relatives of Rode .Do you mean to say that Rode has got his own relatives arrested to save himself ? If so then why is Rode talking of going to the UN to seek justice on this matter ? So far as M.K.Dhar is concerned he may have crticised the punjab police on fake encounters just not be dubbed as a GOI agent.Has his criticism of PP been of any use ?We are interested in results rather than lip sympathy.Lip sympathy by the likes of Dhar is done to neutralize the effect so that people like you start calling him a moderate rather than a stooge of GOI. Harjot Singh Brar Same could be said about Rode, he may have organised and paid for the weddings of a few Shaheed Parivaar daughters etc so people would not dub him as a GOI agent. Not as if he uses his own hard earned money (guess there is not much left from his truck driving days in the middle east). Has anything Rode ever done been of use to the Panth ? Like you say people are interested in results and not lip sympathy and backtraking on full independence to simple greater autonomy that Rode peddled after his release. What is appealing to the UN on this matter going to do ? Is that not typical lipservice from Rode ? Since when have the UN bothered with such issues ? As usual this is typical farcical politics from Rode. Rode was with Dhadhi at the time of the arrest and alleged find of weapons in the car. So how did the police let Rode off whilst Dhaddi is still in custody ? There is more to this and Rode will always remain tainted.

You believe the cops ? They claimed Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Jis right hand man Shaheed Surender Singh Sodhi was a rapist they claimed that during Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji stay in the Harimandir Shaib complex rapes took place in the complex. Why not delve into what Baba Malkit Singh said ? instead of nitpicking.

No they break the natural flow of Gurbani by inserting another shabad. Most people would think twice before breaking the natural flow of Guru Mahraj (after all Guru Arjan Dev Ji Mahraj would have done this themselves or left instructions with regards to this if it was the way to read Gurbani). The result is it takes much longer to read Gurbani. There are variations on this such which take longer than 11 days. Its a great money maker for the Gurdwara where it is done. You put large drums of water next to Guru Mahraj which after the bhog you can give out to the sangat claiming it is amrit (Guru Gobind Singh Ji never made amrit for Bhai Daya Singh Ji, Bhai Dharam Singh Ji, Bhai Himmat Singh Ji, Bhai Mukham Singh Ji and Bhai Sahib Singh Ji using a sampat path. Every day you get people wanting to sponsor the langar as it is a sampat path being done. It turns the whole thing into a great social event.

I cannot help but laughing when you guys keep referring to this "black monkey's" articles exposing various Singhs. Since when have you started feeling that a fundamentalist former indian intelligence agent will say anything in favour of Sikhs.These so called patriots(retired,former RAW/CBI agents) of india try to keep themselves in the limelight by writing books and articles after their retirement. You have to see these guys speaking on various talk shows on indian tv to see how communal and biased their views are. Sikhs have to beware of what these so called "intellectuals" have to say about various freedom fighting Sikhs . Please remember this that neither the govt nor the police or media are with the Sikhs here in India . Instead of being misled by such false propoganda we must see what badal dal and captain dal are doing in the open .There is no need to expose them as they are not hiding what they are doing . Badal is openly hobnobbing with anti Sikh parties like BJP,Shiv sena .BJP leaders like advani and vajpayee who are badal's langotia yaars had openly given the title of "durga devi" to indra gandhi after she attacked Akal Takht Sahib,Amritsar .It is this badal who converted this "shaheedaan dee jathebandi " Shiromani Akali Dal into a "Punjabi party" thus opening the doors of the party to every tom.<admin-profanity filter activated> and harry including many anti sikhs . Badal must understand that the best of friends can turn into worst of enemies if relationships break out as friends are aware of the strengths and weaknesses of each other more than anyone else.Although I doubt whether Badal dal and BJP are friends even (unless badal himself is a cadre of the Sangh parivaar)as I feel all this has been done only to gain hindu votes in Punjab . As regards captain amrinder singh the way he is bowing in front of the indian pm says it all .I thing nothing needs to be said further .It means all that captain does is dictated from above in Delhi which includes retired people like M.K.Dhar . Anyway people here in Punjab particularly Sikhs have started understanding the wrong policies of badal dal,BJP and Congress .The massive turnout at SAD(Amritsar) and SAD(Longowal) joint conference at yesterday's Shaheedi jor mela at Fatehgarh Sahib is an indication that people are looking towards a third front (Panthic front)in Punjab now. Even the so called secular newspapers like "Tribune" from Chandigarh,Punjab said that the turnout at SAD(Amritsar) rally was massive.Pictures also point to that . http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20061226/punjab1.htm#5 http://www.akalidalamritsar.com/punjab/Fat...garh_Sahib.html We should not fall into the game plan of badal BJP and Congress. BJP.badal dal and congress have to be defeated to save Punjab and Sikhs . Harjot Singh Brar Rode nuthuggers truly are a sad bunch of losers. Why dont you get off your pedestal and bother reading a few books by Dhar or is it a bit too hard for you to read a comprehend a book which does not use a size 20 font ? If you bothered to read Dhars books such as Open Secret or Bitter Harvest you might be able to comprehend what the guy stands for. He certainly is not pro GOI, he openly citicises the like of Buta Su (one time home minister) for running death squads, he openly criticises the Punjab Police for the fake encounters they undertook. A pro GOI stooge would never criticise his former paymasters or the PP, he would be spinning stories to mask over fake encounters rather than exposing them. I think what upsets Rode nuthuggers like you is the fact that Rode the coward has been exposed. Fact is a deal was done when Rode was released and made Jathedar of the Akal Takht. Rode and his boys took weapons and money from the GOI. These are hard facts that you and Rode will never be able to deny. Just like congressi Buta Su has not been able to deny the fact that he was running death squads in the Punjab. What Parabjyot Singh writes is true, this leach has made a nice living for himself using the name of Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji. He reminds of all the cretin Indians who try and get everything for free by claiming they are kin of "freedom fighters". Even someone who made a cup of tea for a British policeman will use it as a reason to be classed as a freedom fighter. Has Rode ever done a decent honest days work ? or is he happy living off handouts ? As for those who claim he is a successful business man think again and ask Rode where his seed capital came from that started him on his road to riches. As for these arrests, once again Rode gets away despite being with Paramjit Dhaddi. Sounds to me as if Rode has conspired with his paymasters to fit up Dhaddi and the others. Strange how Rode gets let off without any real questioning. Have you ever heard of such behaviour from the PP ?

Rather listen to "propaganda" from someone who stood shoulder to shoulder with Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji than a petty politician who has no backing, dubious charachters in his party and who ignores shaheed parivaars. A petty politican who thinks more of Jinnah than of Shaheed Khalsa. As they say you know what side the bread is buttered and with Mann you get no butter just lard.

Life is all about learning. That is why we need to learn about the underside of the likes of bittu, mann etc etc. You say they may not be perfect but the problem is more serious than this (especially with bittu) some of them have a very tainted past. Prime example being Jasbir Rode who to this day has not been able to explain his acquisition of assets etc without known sources of income and more importantly his proven links to the GOI. If Bitt came in the open and explained his links to police cats, to mokham the rss wala etc etc then fine but he refuses to do this. As for Che he actually was nothing like Castro hence their falling out. As for his beliefs at no time did he renounce god etc so that view of your is unfounded. Ok, bittu nu chadu, tell me how Simranjit Singh Mann is tainted? The man until this day goes out and protests against anti-sikh groups, gets attacked and has his pugh knocked off almost every month. He has sacrificed so much. He's been in and out of jail, tortured, had his passport revoked or has limitations put on it, but for what? For money? For the popular vote? No, his views arent popular in the modern day corrupt punjab and he definately isnt bringing in any money. You cant sit there and tell me that this man has some secret agenda and his an agent of the GOI. And Che was a well known atheist, this cannot be denied, he was a Marxist for god sake! Fateh. Lets see SS Mann, makes bittu a top dog in his SAD, in the late 80s/90s held secret meetings with key GOI officials. That after knowing bittu invited police cats to his wedding. The same bittu also held parleys with GOI agents and this is well known. Thats the other thing why does he lie down and let his pagri be knocked off every month, remember when he wanted to take his jathedar kirpan into parliament ? Where is that kirpan now ? Why dont he use it ? Baba Malkit Singh has told about the situation where Mann and his stooges were ready to do beadbi of Mahraj in the Akal Takht. So how is he any different from badal ? Why does he use the name of Shaheeds yet ignores their families ? Where were the shaheeds when he wanted to name a library after Jinnah ? As for Che, go ask his first and second wives whether he was atheist. is malkait singh harinavela's man? how did they do beadbi? its just thug harianvelan who made these fasle stories up about one of Mann's boys cutting the chandoa, that guys messed, badals chamcha!! Yes the same Baba Malkit Singh Ji. I suggest you stop listening to the propaganda put out by Mann and co. Mann is like a gow (lizard) he will hiss and spit to frighten you but throw a few bricks at him and he runs like a bihari beya. >>as per sardar mann no one can question his credibility towards sikh nation What a joke that is. It is an open secret how he used Shaheed Major Baldev Singh Ji Ghuman whilst he was alive and then did not even bother visiting his family. How utterly low can you get. Where was his credibility when he ignored Sikh Shaheed so he could build a library named after Jinnah.

The police have decided not to charge him with anything. Should have been charged and prosecuted with wasting police time. Unless the police take a stance we will just have repeat events with other sick idiotic teenagers following the example of this super <banned word filter activated>. If he had cut his hair and been honest about it I think most people would not have a problem but this <banned word filter activated> created a story which people in the UK believed. The local faith groups were also involved in the protest. I bet they will now think twice before standing shoulder to shoulder with us. Shame on this <banned word filter activated> for bringing the reputation of the Sikhs down to his dirty level. It will not happen but in such cases these individuals who use their faith for their own selfish motives whould be named and shamed. The people who organised the coaches etc and went to protest should lauch a civil action against the kid for compensation. Then the little gonad will know the meaning of intense pressure.

Sound like usual b/s policing from Punjab Police wale. I think this may be the same Dhaddi from the UK who was released a year or so ago as the Punjab Police wale could apparently prove no case against him in court. Now these scummy police wale are up to their old tricks again. I have little time for Rode but even less time for dirty police officers who tell lies and make up events. Three Sikh terrorists arrested, 11 kg RDX seized PTI Sunday, December 24, 2006 20:57 IST Email Article Print Article Most Emailed Articles RSS Feed Most Viewed Articles Search This Site JALANDHAR: Three members of a Sikh terrorist group were arrested on Sunday and 11 kg of RDX and other explosives meant for disrupting next year's Assembly elections in Punjab were seized from them. A huge cache of explosives, arms and ammunition including 11 kg of RDX, 11 detonators, four hand grenades, 11 timer devices, two pistols with four magazines, 100 live cartridges, a walkie-talkie set was seized from the arrested persons of -International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF-Rode) group, Senior Superintendent of Police, Naunihal Singh told reporters. The arms and other things had been smuggled into the country recently and were to be used for carrying out disruptive activities in the state in the coming days in the wake of the forthcoming Assembly election, Singh, who took charge as Jalandhar SSP two days ago, said. Acting on a tip-off that some members of ISYF, who were carrying explosives, arms and ammunition, were moving in the district, a special police operation was planned and Jaswinder Singh (23), a resident of Moga was arrested from the Chhotti Baradari area of the city and two kg of RDX, one hand grenade were recovered from him, he said. Amolak Singh (52), a resident of Jargaon, was arrested from a different locality and three kg RDX, a hand grenade, three detonators and 50 cartridges were seized. On the revelation made by both the arrested persons, a third accomplice Paramjit Singh Dhaddi alias Punjab Singh (54) was arrested and six kg RDX along with other ammunition was seized from him, Singh said. To a query on the trio's association with former Akal Takhat Jathedar Jasbir Singh Rode, Singh said his role was being probed. Meanwhile, a city court on Sunday sent the three terrorists to four days police remand. The trio was produced before the court of duty magistrate D K Choudhary, who sent them for four days of police remand till December 28. Jasbir Singh Rode also demanded an impartial probe by Human Rights Commission into the arrest claiming that the district police had hatched a conspiracy to defame him by arresting three of his close associates on the charges of possessing RDX and ammunition. "Yesterday afternoon about 45 persons in plain clothes forcibly entered into my house in Hardyal Nagar and started search and when my wife tried to ring me up, her phone was snatched and telephone wires were disconnected," Rode told reporters here adding the unidentified persons took my relatives Jaswinder Singh and Amolak Singh along with them. "Although Amolak and Jaswinder were arrested from my residence, police is showing their arrest from somewhere else," Rode alleged while claiming that even the police claim of recovering the RDX from Gokhla, native village of Dhaddi was also false as cops never gone to the village, which could be enquired from any of the villager. Rode alleged that it were two persons including N P S Aulakh, former intelligence chief and now advisor of former Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal and Hardeep Dhillon, Inspector General of Police (IGP) Jalandhar-zone, who had hatched a conspiracy to defame him and his party Akali Dal.

Spot on. Too many times now we have had kids crying wolf. It is time we investigated the facts and even went as far as conducting lie detector tests before sending coaches left right and centre.

Excellent post. The following statement is spot on : >>The truth is that it was the devastating effect of World War II that forced the British government to dismantle its Colonial Empire. Many Indian actually believe all the congress b/s about how THEY got the British to leave India. This could not be further from the truth. To win Punjabi's over to the farcical one nation theory they use the examples of Bhagat Singh & Shaheed Udham Singh Ji to hoodwink people. India in its current form has no real history.

Check his web site. Is this the Dhadrain Wala ? If it is he probably performing at Gurdwara who's committee wale flout Akal Takht Hukumnama on party halls. He was happy to perform at Wednesfield earlier this year.