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  1. all the more we need to kick out the gora election system in our guru ghars and get back to our own system of panch amritdhari Gursikhs as managers- committee and all power-- any further expansion of seva to be nominated to a further 5 and stay within this system , it 's the only one which will work for us. It's a joke we have a gora system of elections which only divides and rules and nohting else since it's birth in our guru ghars
  2. kalyugi you are a complete THICKHEAD to reply the way you did, are the moderators asleep?
  3. I totally agree with Kalyugi here, Pyara jee's statement wasn't throwing any ego or accusation or anything like the reply which was given with moderators notes all over it. What kind of sikhs are we, one minute hot headed next minute all cool and it's maharajs kirpa!!! If the sevadaars came on this website asking for donations then they are also duty bound to provide all the answers to level headed questions posed. I mean i have contributed and want to contribute more but cannot do so till we know what are the plans for the future so this doesn't go belly up again!! Simple maths -- is all that is requried
  4. Gurfateh SRIWAHEGURU jee:: First of thanks for taking the time out and writing about the figures involved. To put the statement "How the heck did the Academy get into a financial mess" – should not be breath taking at all singh not at all especially when or if one knows what they are doing financially. I'm no expert but just by looking at the figures you mention, it's crystal clear to take any financial undertaking one must have a concrete amount of income coming in the first place. No one here on this thread so far is throwing ego as an accountant , laywer, doctor or anything, as being a member of that sadsangat and a contributor to the academy at present it is my right as Any other member of the sadsangat to be aware of what happened, what led to a crisis? It doesn't require a lecture in sikh history, just a simple statement of in coming income and outgoings. As I said before I want to contribute more, but need to be sure that the future has some kind of answers to, questions such as: the loan can it be negotiated with another bank?, what incomes sources are we to rely on for the future? What other ways can issues such as this be prevented? I hate to be repetitive here and also agree with what Pyara jee has mentioned . It's clear the youth haven't been given the opportunity in the Guru Ghars , and a generation has been lost, and the academy is filling the gap, and I wish for it to continue in chardi kala. The kirpa you talk about is on everyone regardless of who they are, but this isn't about kirpa this just about a simple maths gone wrong somewhere.
  5. gurfaeh Guys this is unbeleivable, we have the proof that the academy does the work , and we all love what they do no issues no problem. BUT and A BIG BUT for me is: 1. loan mortagae whatever - -how the heck did the acadamey get into a financial mess- was there no fore warning of the debt lingering over the years and nothing done about it?? 2. If something was being done what was it? 3. The reason i ask above 1,2 is that how do we know that this 150k is the last lot maya needed for it be saved , what is the forecast for the future, money has to come in somehow to full support such an academy which is doing such a great job..? how and what and where the finanical support is going to continue into the academy?? what ways are the sevadarrs looking to generate the income so that we don't fall prey to a hectic debt in future? I am not attacking, merely asking because i want to give more as i have alredy given,but need to sure of the finacial transperency??, there are no figures or transeperency since the start of the academy published here or anywhere , if so please post that link? thanks in advance
  6. understand ur point, but man this guy can write some magic poetry. we have at last a singer who is dedicated to signing about nature and kudrat from panjab much needed
  7. vow what a great achievement, now let's get everything else that is wrong with punjab right too, drugs, drink, meat eating,corruption, anyone tackling that one
  8. gurfateh This is crazy , we have an academy everyone loves which is no doubt at all. BUT AND BIG BUT how come academy and its sevadaar dug up such a big debt hole... there doesn't seem to be a clear explanation, we cannot donate entirely based on how great it is,how are we to know this will not happen in the future.. i mean 2 weeks for 150k that is madness indeed, any body in their right mind would not donate until we know everything since the academy has been running, why did they take such a huge risk if income was low ??? apologies i cannot donate till we know all the details as they devil is in the detail
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