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  1. We are an incredibly naive community. You do realise that none of this mobilisation would have even begun without Sikh channel? Not many would give two pennies for anything to do with Rajoana or any other recent campaign for that matter without Sikh Channel. Be very wary of the politics being played. Do not withdraw support from any of the Sikh Channels, they are a bigger nightmare for the Indian Government than every website and youtube channel combined. As usual our panth is being as stupid as ever and playing into the divide and rule tactic of our enemies. Believe me, the Indian Government wants absolutely nothing more than for the Sikh Channels to be closed, they are terrifed of them. With a whole Government on the prowl against them watching their every move just waiting for an excuse to have them shut down, the channels have to be very careful. Aside from bhagti, Sikh Channel is politically the biggest and most powerful tool we have and ever had have. Instead of withdrawing your support from Sikh Channel, give it MORE of your support- backers and donors have much more influence than internet groaners. Back it financially and get involved in the studio and behind the scenes, while your at it get politically and legally astute. NONE of the positive action we have been seeing lately would be happening in the first place without Sikh Channel. Just remember it was Sikh Channel and Sangat tv who were the first to send reporters and film crews immediately when the Rajoana protests took place in Punjab. Without that crucial first hand footage nobody would have cared for the issue, how many would have known or cared about Shaheed Bhai Jaspal Singh Ji? Without the Sikh Channel/Sangat Tv precedent Rajoana TV or anything like it would never have even been started in the first place.
  2. Sajjan Thag was a serial killer but then became an important Gursikh leader after being reformed by Guru Nanak Dev Ji. This Singh ji is clearly reformed and putting effort into contributing to the sikh community and society as a whole. The article is just sensationalist, prejudiced trash. As people in the comments have rightly noted, others at the event don't have great pasts, eg. cheryl cole has a conviction for assault, this was only 9 years ago compared to Mr Rana's which was 30 years ago. But notice how the media does not make any hoo haa about that.
  3. And for this reason we should turn a blind eye to what your west punjabi 'brothers' are doing to our sikh sisters? These same 'brothers' that snigger when they see singhs wearing dastaars, call us dirty for not removing kesh, call our religion false and tell us we are going to hell?
  4. has to be some of the best simran I have ever heard, can someone please give me a link to the full simran and the name of the keertani bibi ji. I think it might be bibi jaswinder kaur bebe nanaki jatha. thanks
  5. Are you sure this information is correct, I know that Gurdip Kang who was also recently missing has been found deceased, but not Pardeep Singh.
  6. *** MISSING PERSON *** If anyone has seen or heard the whereabouts of PARDEEP SINGH please call 07846703969. He is from the handsworthwood area in Birmingham and the last reported sighting of him was saturday morning between 10.30 am and 11.30 am, at the bus stop on oxhill road opposite the grove pub. Please share this photo with all your friends which could help to any clues leading to his finding. Thank you. This singh has been through alot during his lifetime and does fall into depression occaisonally. Just 2 weeks ago his father passed away because of a heart attack, and his mother is also in hospital at this present time. He has taken with him his medication and all bank cards etc. he told his brother he will be going to the bank but did not return, he turned his phone off and did not come home. Police are currently dealing with the case and we also urge the local community to come foward if they have seen him. Today we have received information that Pardeep Singh was also spotted in the West Bromwhich area on saturday. It is very likely he got on the 101 bus from oxhill road where he was first seen and then got on another bus either the 74 or 75 from Soho road to West Bromwhich. Were you on that bus? Did you see Pardeep Singh? or around that area? if you did then please call 07846703969 or 07971965589 which could be a vital clue to his whereabouts. Thank you.
  7. http://www.sloughobs...ce-missing-man/ POLICE are appealing for help to trace a missing man from Slough. Gurdip Kang, 49, of Shaggy Calf Lane, was reported missing yesterday morning (Saturday) after he left his home address without informing any of his family about where he was going. Gurdip is described as wearing a black turban, a navy fleece jacket, with a white polo shirt and black trousers. Det Insp Stuart Bosley said: "Gurdip's family are concerned for his welfare as it is out of character for him to leave the house without informing anyone where he is going. "I would urge Gurdip, or anyone who knows of his whereabouts to come forward and speak to us immediately." Anyone with information should contact Thames Valley Police via the 24-hour Thames Valley Police Enquiry Line on 101, quoting URN 626 (5/5).
  8. akhandeurope is obviously not actually akj but a troublemaker wanting to give the wrong impression of sangat associated with akhand keertani jatha. Way to ruin the topic. The original post speaks for itself. ਤੂੰ ਵਲਵੰਚ ਲੂਕਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਸਭ ਜਾਣੈ ਜਾਣੀ ਰਾਮ ॥ Ŧūʼn valvancẖ lūk karahi sabẖ jāṇai jāṇī rām. You are practicing deception secretly, but the Lord, the Knower, knows all ਲੇਖਾ ਧਰਮ ਭਇਆ ਤਿਲ ਪੀੜੇ ਘਾਣੀ ਰਾਮ ॥ Lekẖā ḏẖaram bẖa▫i▫ā ṯil pīṛe gẖāṇī rām When the Righteous Judge of Dharma reads your account, you shall be squeezed like a sesame seed in the oil-press ਕਿਰਤ ਕਮਾਣੇ ਦੁਖ ਸਹੁ ਪਰਾਣੀ ਅਨਿਕ ਜੋਨਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਾਇਆ ॥ Kiraṯ kamāṇe ḏukẖ saho parāṇī anik jon bẖarmā▫i▫ā. For the actions you committed, you shall suffer the penalty; you shall be consigned to countless reincarnations He is trying to say someone from damdami taksal made a page againt Bhai Randhir Singh because of praise of Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji - somehow I dont think anyone would make it that obvious. I wouldnt be surprised if the guy behind the akhandeurope account is the guy who made the anti akj page and hes (or whoever did make the page) is trying to make it look like someone from the taksal made it to create hatred between akj and taksal. Not gonna work you sad loser! LOL
  9. yeah sounds similar but does anybody know about the thing about carrying on old traits and hatred? i think it was something like even though born into sikh families they would be saRhing (burning/in turmoil) inside.
  10. English Gurmat Class- Bhai Tarsem Singh Classes in English starting tomorrow (11th May 2012) and every Friday thereafter from 7.30pm. Bhai Tarsem Singh Ji is a British Born Sikh. Cross Road Gurdwara 47-49 Cross Rd Coventry, CV6 5GR Coventry, United Kingdom Facebook: http://www.facebook....35740946530420/
  11. I seem to remember once hearing from someone, that either Guru Ji or a great Mahapurash said that those who fought against Sikhs in battles and were killed in those battles, would be reborn in to Sikh homes, but they would have their old horrible traits, even enemity towards other Sikhs. I don't know how factually correct this is, but I sure can think of some 'Sikhs' today full of nothing but venom who I could imagine being these souls! I truly fail to understand the hatred some people have for other Gursikhs, this is possibly something that could serve as an explanation (for some at least)? Anyone heard anything like this?
  12. Scroll down for before and after picture! In the video Singh Ji explains why he became a Sikh, what caused the transformation. The rest of the videos on the same youtube channel are also very inspirational and informative. Photo taken from Cross Rd Gurdwara facebook page http://www.facebook....rdwara.coventry (add for lots of sikhi info and inspiration)
  13. I think I have found the facebook profiles of many of those tagged in the photo, but not 'jack twomey' who put the photo up. My guess is out of those tagged in the photo, the one wearing the Nishan Sahib is, 'Mitchell Ramandeep Teale': http://www.facebook....p?id=1640180730 . OR he could just be the guy in the middle and not the nishaan sahib one. I think he has put ramandeep in his name as a mockery of Sikhs, in his photos he has put up photos of sikhs in a mocking way I think.On his wall he has written 'sorry for that pic everyone' which further points to it being him being the one in the picture doing the beadbi. These seem to be the fb profiles of two others tagged in the pic: Jamie Gourey: http://www.facebook....100003298352557 Eiron Casey: http://www.facebook....100000064840969 I think we should tell the police.
  14. I don't think this was intentional, I think they just wanted to use the Punjabi university logo, but in doing so this has put Gurbani on a t-shirt.... http://sectorthirteen.myshopify.com/collections/mens/products/punjabi-university
  15. n30 singh, just suppose what are saying is true that these sants did wear jewellery, well did they ever talk about the fact they were wearing it, why etc? if these are simply the conlcusions you have drawn from just seeing them wearing jewellery, then they are simply that, your own conclusions. Unless you have any quotes from the sants you have mentioned we have no reason to believe that they agree with your reasoning, simply because some pictures show them wearing something. By the same token there are some sikhs who it would seem would call Guru Sahib kattar, superior fanatic for giving any hukam which does not fit in their hippy happy world! You see the problem with this approach is that it assumes that one actually knows something or has the ability to 'work towards passing the exams'. The fact is none of us know anything, we have no giaan and we have no way to even try to comprehend what Gurmat is. All we can do is in very childlike form attempt to follow everything our master tells us to do (even this we can't do). Anything else, any thoughts any reasoning any philosophical (fokat) analysis of our guru is as a matter of fact our ego. Lets have a look at a sakhi demonstrating the fruit of childlike innocence. Bear this in mind, no one ever has and ever will reach Vaheguru through any action of their own. Union will happen when Guru Sahib gets pleased with us. This can only be achieved through earnestly attempting to do everything he tells us to do. And when we do this there will be nothing left out as his hukam is perfect and all encompassing. Bhai Bela Ji was a Gursikh during the times of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. He came to Guru Ji and asked if he could stay at Anandpur Sahib. Guru Ji consented so long as Bhai Bela agreed to partake in Seva. He was asked what form of Seva he wished to partake in, such as, langar seva, recite Bani or join the Guru’s army and fight in the battlefield. Bhai Bela replied that he could not cook, read Gurbani or knew how to use shashtars. Thus Guru Ji assigned Bhai Bela Ji the duty of looking after the horses and their stables. At the same time Bhai Bela Ji would be taught Gurbani by Guru Ji. Guru Ji started by teaching Bhai Bela Ji one line of the JapJi Sahib per day. Bhai Bela Ji would spend his whole day, whilst fulfilling his daily chores, repeating that same line. The following morning he would recite it back to Guru Ji to make sure that he had memorised it correctly, and thus he could progress and go on to learn the next line. One day, Bhai Bela Ji came to Guru Ji ready for his next lesson. However Guru Ji was busy and was preparing to go out. Just as Guru Ji was about to leave, Bhai Bela Ji got in the way saying, “Guru Ji, I am ready for my next lesson. I want to learn the next line of JapJi Sahib.” Guru Gobind Singh Ji replied, “Bhai Bela, na vakhat veecharai naa veyla” meaning, “Bhai Bela, you are not considering the circumstances I am in; I am busy and must go out.” Yet Bhai Bela Ji was so innocent and obedient, that he understood Guru Ji’s comment to be the next line of the JapJi Sahib and spent his whole day practising the phrase. When the other Sevadaars heard Bhai Bela Ji, they started laughing and began mocking him. But Bhai Bela Ji ignored them and continued reciting the phrase, eager to learn it well so that he could please Guru Ji the next morning by reciting it correctly. The following morning when Bhai Bela Ji went to meet Guru Ji, the rest of the Sevadaars had gathered there as well. They wanted to see Guru Ji get angry with Bhai Bela Ji for incorrectly reciting the JapJi Sahib. However, when Bhai Bela Ji recited the line “Bhai Bela, na vakhat veecharai naa veyla,” Guru Ji instead got up and embraced Bhai Bela Ji. Guru Ji said, “this is what a true Sikh is. He does not allow his own intelligence to get in the way of his Guru’s words. He believes his Guru’s Bachan to be 100% true and does not consider his own intellect to be above that of his Guru’s.” Too often we judge ourselves to be cleverer and more knowledgeable than our Guru. Bhai Bela Ji sacrificed himself entirely to the Guru’s words. He was so innocent, subservient and obedient that he placed his faith entirely in the Guru’s Bachan, forsaking his own mind and intellect. May Guru Ji bless us with such pyaar, sharda and faith to forever live according to His Hukam, which is conveyed to us through His Shabad. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh www.ikonkaar.blogspot.com
  16. You are not my Guru, Guru Sahib is my Guru, no one needs you to tell us what Guru Sahib is saying.
  17. How strange to make a post just to superficially create an issue where there isn't one, as if we haven't got enough things to veechaar (read as argue lol) about. The OP doesn't even wear jewellery himself. baad vivaad na banao jee, jo panja neh kehia oh he maano. Vaah jee vaah, saade te vi kirpa kardeo baba ji. On a serious note, is it not everyone's goal to have our surti aligned to bairaag and tyaag?
  18. http://www.sikhanswers.com/category/sikh-articles-of-faith-identity/
  19. http://www.allaboutsikhs.com/guru-sakhis/the-tobacco-fields
  20. And what is next after the Saroop Sahib has been restored? I take it that Maharaj will be parkash or sukhasan in an appropriate sachkhand? Also why as a community accepting that our GURU is being treated like a book in so many museums? We should not rest until all saroops are with the panth.
  21. I've been following this debate very carefully, alot of it is much too much for my limited understanding so I can't really say what I think is right or wrong. However, 'Consciousness', I think that was bang out of order to say Kaal was being angry, over reacting, or even saying hes showing his true colours. I don't think Kaal has been any of these things and these been some interesting stuff in his posts, and yours too. Please lets not make assumptions about people.
  22. http://www.sikhanswe...-view-on-aarti/ Sanaatan (Hindu) practices infiltrating Sikhi In the mid-18th century when the Khalsa had to live in the jungles because they had a price on their head, Nirmala and Udaasi Mahants (caretakers) took care of the Gurdwaras. During this period the Nirmala and Udaasis came under the influence of Hinduism and introduced Hindu practices to Sikh institutions. Over time the Mahants became more powerful and although the Sikh Gurdwaras were freed from the clutches of the corrupt Mahands in the turn of the 20th century through the Singh Sabha and Gurdwara Reform Movements. Although the Gurdwaras were freed and Sikh Maryada (Code of Conduct) was re-introduced to Sikh institutions, some Sikh institutions in India that were outside of the Panjab or in the hands of certain Nihangs or Sants continued practising some Hindu rituals. One of the rituals is “performing” Aarti. Singing the Keertan of Aarti is a Sikh practise, however performing Aarti by waving a platter with oil lamps and flowers whilst ringing bells is a Hindu practise. Aarti and Sikh Maryada The Panthic Sikh Rehit Maryada, the official Sikh Code of Conduct, states: ਸ) ਉਪਰ ਦੱਸੇ ਸਾਮਾਨ ਤੋਂ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਧੂਪ ਜਾਂ ਦੀਵੇ ਮਚਾ ਕੇ ਆਰਤੀ ਕਰਨੀ, ਭੋਗ ਲਾਉਣਾ, ਜੋਤਾਂ ਜਗਾਉਣੀਆਂ, ਟੱਲ ਖੜਕਾਉਣੇ ਆਦਿ ਕਰਮ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਨਹੀਂ[ ਹਾਂ, ਸਥਾਨ ਨੂੰ ਸੁਗੰਧਿਤ ਕਰਨ ਲਈ ਫੁੱਲ, ਧੂਪ ਆਦਿ ਸੁਗੰਧੀਆਂ ਵਰਤਣੀਆਂ ਵਿਵਰਜਿਤ ਨਹੀਂ[ ਕਮਰੇ ਅੰਦਰ ਰੌਸ਼ਨੀ ਲਈ ਤੇਲ,ਘੀ ਜਾਂ ਮੋਮਬੱਤੀ, ਬਿਜਲੀ, ਲੈਂਪ ਆਦਿ ਜਗਾ ਲੈਣੇ ਚਾਹੀਦੇ ਹਨ[ d. Anything except the afore-mentioned reverential ceremonies, for instance, such practices as the Aarti (waving of a platter with burning lamps and incense set in it in vertical circular motion) with burning incense and lamps, offerings of eatables to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, burning of lights, beating of gongs, etc., is contrary to Gurmat (the Guru’s way). However, for the perfuming of the place, the use of flowers, incense and scent is not barred. For light inside the room, oil or butter-oil lamps, candles, electric lamps, kerosene oil lamps, etc., may he lighted. In the same spirit, Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale, a Gurbani scholar and saint, clearly explains what Aarti means in the Sikh religion in ‘Gurbaani Paath Darpan’. In chapter of Akhand Paath maryada, page 168, Sant Ji writes: ਆਰਤੀ ੳਚਾਰਨੀ, ਦੀਵੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਾਲਣੇ,ਕੇਵਲ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਪੜਨੇ ਅਤੇ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਕਰਨਾ, ਫਿਰ ਕੜਾਹ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਾਦ ਵੰਡਣਾ ਅਤੇ ਖੁੱਲਾ ਲੰਗਰ ਕਰਨਾ। “Do Aarti, don’t light lamps, only read Shabads of Aarti and Do Kirtan, then distribute Karah Parshad and have open Langar.” On page 135, Sant Ji writes: ਹਰ ਪਾਠ ਦੇ ਭੋਗ ਪੈਣ ਤੇ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਤੇ ਆਰਤੀ ੳਚਾਰੇ( ਬਿਨਾਂ ਮ੍ਰਿਤਕ ਪਹਿਲੀ ਵਾਰ ਦਾ) (ਨੋਟ- ਆਰਤੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਹੀ ੳਚਾਰਨੇ, ਦੀਵੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਾਲਣੇ) “At bhog of every Paath, do Kirtan and sing Aarti (except first path of an individual’s death” (Note- Only Sing Shabads of Aarti, don’t light lamps) Under title of Aarti, Santji wrote complete Maryada of Aarti and in the end he writes- ਆਰਤੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਬੈਠ ਕੇ ਪੜਨੇ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਕਰਨਾ ਹੀ ਯੋਗ ਹੈ।ਥਾਲ ਵਿਚ ਦੀਵੇ ਬਾਲ ਕੇ ਆਰਤੀ ਦਾ ਖੰਡਨ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਾਂ ਨੇ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ। “It is best to sit and sing Shabads of Aarti. Doing Aarti with lighted lamps in plates has been rejected by Satguru Ji.” So going by Gurmat and Gurbani, only the sitting and singing of Aarti in Keertan form without lighting lamps is permissible, as lighting of lamps like the Hindus did at Mandir in Jagannath is contrary to teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji
  23. I think the best solution to this is for akal takht to summon them.
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