jagminder84

I doubt these traiters who exploit the sikhi saroop for votes really care about dharam, they are more interested in getting votes and feeding themselves and their kids. indira kutti, maro jutti.

my cousin a long time ago was very ill and these jehovah witness people indocrinated him to convert to christianity, but 2 gursikhs came into his dreams and told him not to leave sikhee as he will not gain much in another faith in terms of laha of naam simran and bhagti. after that he stop going to that place and became gursikh. Abrahamic faiths are there for the numbers, to them quantity means more than quality- they do not have the concept of 1 true sikh = 125,000 but believe that by converting the world to their faith they are doing God's work... I also was watching a christian channel in punjab when i went recently on holiday and the programme was on islam and how it is an evil faith that promotes violence and they justified this by using words from the quran (possibly taken out of context) and using muslim converts to christianity to substantiate their claims. We all should be aware of their tactics- these so called christian missionaries also twisted and turned the holy words of sri guru gobind singh ji in punjab: ਪੁਨਿ ਰਾਛਸ ਕਾ ਕਾਟਾ ਸੀਸਾ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਸਿਕੇਤੁ ਜਗਤ ਕੇ ਈਸਾ ॥ they said that eesa translates as jesus as in arabic isa is the name of jesus, thus proclaiming that jesus is the God of Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji, and we all know from translations from gurmukhs that eesa means king. Most of the things they say to defame our faith is stupid and a sikh with even a bit of gian on sikhee can decipher there foolish assertions, but these poeple are not targeting us, they are targeting the gullible. For that reason we need to do more prachar on this especailly in punjab where christians are becoming more prevalent than sikhs in india due to deceit and lies of their preaching to gain converts.

bhaji, i do exactly the same as you do and watch other dharmic channels, but what u mention should not be a suprise because whenever i turnover to the some muslim channel all i ever see is the people bigging islam up as the most superior faith in the world, and the christian channels (that i have wathced) are the worst, they proclaim other faiths to be the result of the devil to take people away from devotion to chritst and believe we non-christans go to hell. cheap sikhs (if they were sikhs in the first place) are common- you see sikhs bowing their heads to idols, tombs, pakhandi babe and etc and i have actually been to some of these places and witnessed this. Anyone can buy these people to convert to there faith because they have no stable ground to stand on. i was watching a english lecture on youtube some time ago by bhai nirmal singh where he makes an excellent point about sikhs converting to islam. He says that in order to reject something, you must have the understanding of what you are rejecting- if you did not know anything about sikhee in the first place, then how can you possibly be rejecting it, and thus be converting from sikhee to another faith. Its very ironic and does not add up to a logical conclusion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6W4ialIexo

i accidently added another post- it wont let me delete it- can any1 help :stupidme:

im sure theres plently of videos on youtube for instance this one: but why not tie a easier dastar like gol or dumalla or the african style one thats the easiest for me. depends really on what suits you- the most common type of dastar for the youth here in the uk is the dumalla or gol type pagh, but at the end of the day it up to you, no point getting into conflicts over which style is better. i've only kept my kesh for a year now and also started first year of uni and i know how difficult tying a dastar perfectly can be so do not worry if can't get punni done neatly, just practice doing it on your own using the door handle in your spare time and wear a gol dastar in the meantime

How much of you have watched the actual scenes of 1984 anti-sikh pograms in delhi- they are horrifying! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtRN4ofjpeQ makes me pleased when punjabi singers spread awareness of 1984 genocide in punjab because most of the people i've meant don't actually know what really happened, and i know that from personal experience from my recent visit to india.

We should all contact sikh channel before they spread more lies and poison to our community. By using a sikh community channel they will be promoting there manmat agenda hidden alongside panthic wichara and i bet you only a small percentage of our community who have the gian will recognise what is happening.

is it me or is tiger jatha uk giving a leture on the sikh channel londen studio now- the same jatha that dont accept sri dasam granth as the bani of sri Guru Gobind Singh JI and support darsan lal, the pseudo sikh pracharak that has turned his back on the panth. most of things that they are talking about (i haven't watched all of it) is ok and inline with gurmat but what i fear is that they may use this stage to promote there own agendas such as anti-dasam granth propaganda.

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ke feteh i was just researching more about sikh freedom fighting organisations and came across this on wiki- i know not everything is valid on wiki but some articles like the 1991 punjab killings was printed in the new york times. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/27/world/49-slain-by-gunmen-on-train-in-india.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Punjab_killings n.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Victims_of_Terrorism_in_Indian_Punjab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Punjab_killings Was this just false news used to spread propaganda against the sikh freedom movement or was it in actual fact true that singhs did this? Or was it agents of the government? if it was true, i can't wonder to think why sikhs would kill innocent hindus even though thousands of innocent sikhs were systematically killed by government forces. Even my dad said lots of innocent hindus were killed in punjab in the 80s and 90s and he lived in punjab at that time. please elaborate on this for me- i feel this kind of news tarnishes the glory and sacrifice of our shaheeds and it is saddening when such things on the net are being associated to sikhs. thanks.