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VJKK VJKF Managing expectation is always hard - mind lives in PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE - Gursikhe jeevan teaches to be in present at all time. i.e. what are you doing now with 100% committment. take things 1 step at a time. Path done is fine - carry on doing it - however - we have to live according to sikh prinicples too - i.e seva of sadh sangat - try seva on a regular basis starting of one day a week at your local Gurdwara - joriann de seva or langar seva - those depressing feelings will dissappear. Other clues are listen to raag keertan - particluarlay Basant raag - this raag if sung or listened to correctly with love it will bring joy and bliss in your heart - plenty of youtube links by the likes of Bhai Balbire singh jee. Sikhe is accepting whatever is happennig in your life - you need to accept as a gift from the almighty - not demand anything. Biggest person we listen to at all times is our mind - however Gurbani says all the mind things is childish i.e " hoee ehann kare kum" or "naal enhee dostee kadee nah avee raas" - mind dont know jack all hence why we need higher level of teaching from SGGS sahib and understanding. Search for videos by bascis of sikhe - Bhai Jagraj does excellent work on the issues you have.

Some valid thoughts above - i hope the admins of the sangat TV are chiming and reading these comments. I do support al channels - however the issue or me is if one start a business - one must know what they are getting into , the issues and costs and planning etc. - what i hate the most is they started them and now they try to persuade sangat to support them. Should that kind of planning should have been done before the channels had started so we would not have such issues of running out of mone. £160k is peanuts - how will the channel be sustained after? I know we neeed media and i support it - but the future planning has gone a miss here clearly has it not? Where was the business risk assesment? Communication with the sangat is really bad - if that was done properly at first , gaining direct debit gurantees for years to come then it is possble we wouldt be in such a mess. However i do wish them well and will be contributing - hope they have a a better business plan for the future.

WJKK WJKF. All reccommendation here are cool and you should try and follow them as much as possible. In addition may I advise you to do at least 21 chapuai Sahib paaths every day for a minimum of 40 days and report back here on how you feel about your issues that you have menitoned above. Guru Sahib tests are in various ways - secondly doing paath is good , however we must also try to control our - listening, speaking, ove indulgence in all forms as much as possible too. The more attached one is to this materail world i.e facebook, phones , tv , films etc - the more it robs oneself of the paath already done. Keep things simple, life simple. If you cannot do chapuai sahib paaths - please try Gurmantar jaap every day for at least 1 hour. Check out the last vichaar gosti lecture here by Giani Kulwant Singh Jee - it tackles the negative vibes you and a lot of teenagers go thru - heck i went thru them too. Listen again and again you will enjoy and learn and develop so much more: http://www.gianikulwantsingh.com/index.php/Table/Audio/

Part of the rehat maryda for an amritdhari sikh is to do mool mantar as well as Gurmantar everyday - however a lot of amritdhari sikhs hardly even read the rehat maryada and try and understand it properly. Both are equally important mool mantar =- Gurmantar - and of course your deeds on the day - watching and policing how you look, control your hearing of nindyia, control of food intake etc

any update here from the new terapanthvase team??

Great ideas - hope all the recruits of this new outfit are as in the second panktee of the title "tera panth vasee maan ujraaa" -- "maan ujraa" people who are willing give 110%

this dont make sense - KSUK sevadaars please come on down and clarify of the £250-£300 fee. however i have no issue there is no price on the preciouse keertan done by Bhai Sahib. And putting this video on this forum is also a waste of preciouse time - listen to the keertan guys .

WJKK WJKF, Indeed a great idea - however what will be its' aims: police the gurdwara in the uk ? or and do amrit sancharrs? why not just have a group i.e Gurdwara sudhaar lehar type movement. We have tons of issues - I will ask my local Gurdwara committee types to see what is their reaction.I also think without communicating with all th eGurdwara in the UK this step would not be wise, Im sure Jagraj Singh is aware of that anyway. No matter how hard we bash the Gurdwara they do need funds at to survive and the only way that is through weddings Akand paaths etc. but i agree a lot ot these are not done with marayada. So if we are going to for a Takht will it require funding from all of the Gurdwara or will it create ideas for these Gurdwaras to survive without the need of huge costs of weddings etc. I think its a bold move and needs a lot veechar - would love to see more input on it here.

WJKK WJKF I will be studing in rotterdam from this year in spetember and need accommdation - preferabbly amirtdhari sikh family - does anyone know of Gursikhs in rotterdam?

Excellent video .. Akali's - SGPC - etc . establishments need to be broken down - we need to start over completely with fresh establishments. Initially to being with 5 singhs (amritdhari and of jeevan kamai) and then they be the rule and leaders of teams of 5 or 3 as an organisation. I have been in contact with relatives in Punjab this time around there seems to be not much support for the badals as it seems. However issue remains whether they are in power or not KHALSA needs its own house in order and BREAK down the SGPC establishment and Akali's as they completely and utterly DEFUNCT.

what a write up - admins make this a sticky for life - 100% spot on chardeee kala --

watched it - another waste of time by singhs - as there are much much huge issues facing the Sikh kaum. I feel Dr. sahib answered the questions perfectly and professionally, i also feel the singhs said the right thing for Dr sahib not quote unnecssary and debated issues in his lectures. Its' a minor mistake by Dr sahib however we have much bigger issues to deal with at present in the world. Dr sahib should be suppported either way - how many such authors do we have at present

veer jeeo the right way is in the shabad in rehras we ready daily " antar Gur aradhana jehava jap gur naao.." please do vichaar on this shabad - it has all the asnwers. secondly Gursikhe is shabad - surat ka khel withou a doubt. Not sure if you are interpeting Giani Thakur Singh je's word correctly..however goal is keep going till hear shabad consistently as recall in your mind all day all the time.You must listen to that and not ignore it.

BHAI SAHIB IS JUST AWESOME parnaam Bhai SAHIB nooon chardi kala

Absolutely Chardee Kala - Bhai Jugraj Singh jeeo - bilkul jugaaaaa ditta far kee - maharaj dee apar kirpa

i doubt even if we had the best Akal Takht leader things would change in teh Gurdwaras abroad or in Punjab. What 's needed is a panel of sevadaars representing the akal takht and ensuring the Gurdwaras are monitored and ensure they follow maryada - just like during singh sabha lehar time there was a gurdwara sudaar lehar which ensured Gurdwaras and the main people in the committes followed protocol- till we have that we are nowhere, apologies no offence intended just my 2 cents

thinking capacity or not - there is no way everyone will be the same and have the same thought process everything - each mind/ munn is different - and each has according to their own past karms will be nearer or further to sikhe thought process - any other elobariton you require? apples or bannas or whatever - tell what is exactly the same?

I agree wholeheartedly sir, thing is it sometimes feels like our media is a bit like the old penddo committees types we have in our Gurdwara up and down the country i.e they want to do something to kndle their ego but when it comes to rea lissues and crux they shy away like a lions with their tails in between their legs. I sincerley hope Sikh channel stays on par - as the current ceo is a pretty cool cat and doing a swell job at present , others i'm not sure. The crux and truth of the matter - effecting the sikh kaum wil prevail and come out one way or the other anyway. Pendo des perdes types are just their for the money and may so is the other sikh media organisations however if they ignore the basic fundamental things going on within the panth then what is their point afterall. They indeed belong to the panth as support of sangatan worldwide is growing for them - we are all after all inter dependant and cannot survive without that depednacy. Thanks for your input again

Jeeo, Do you mean same thinking of gurmat 100% - i.e per rehat maryada ?? There will always be differences - we are to live and respect them equally as khlasa.Sikhe is most natural dharm ever in this world which looks for perfection in this way and that. Next time you come across an acre of flowers or apples - ask and take a look do they all grow the same way and have the exactly the same kind of shine in all OF THEM? It's not nature's way to all the same way.

Thanks veer jeeo for the update - i also congratulate the youth for being cool here.

I was reading in des pardes of recent that this rally is being hosted for two dates one by the youth and one by the elders - both clashing dates booked by both - i hope it doesn;t turn out to be farcial - please confirm here if anyone knows this is true or is it just des pardes punjabi paper hype??

Guys - Many Thanks for all the responses and contributions on this thread which i started about sikh sangat airing naamdahris' To date i haven't received no reply via email or anything and nor have sangat tv responded here however i i am certain that they are aware of what they did. For the sake of my contribution to sangat TV it stays at present due to a mass of great other programmes on the channel which you cannot argue are great. It would be immature to assume all is wrong because of airing naamdharis once - and cut monthly contributions.However we must remain vigilant on such stances. Please refrain from comments which create emotional venom - that was not my intention for this thread, it was informational. I continue to watch sangat tv - in hope they won't do this again.

So much nindya over nothing - ANY internet warriors have they read Baba Nand Singh jees works - not so i think not one mention of photo pooja is mentioned - prove me wrong if you can. Who knows that photo shoot is true or just edited to cause nindyia on the forum. Admins please take note - so much nindiya going on here - why are you not awake please

Imagine how much you could feed the homeless if all western world Gurdwaras only stick to one dal or one sabjee in langar that is all.

I asked the question simply - i dont want this to go in to hate this hate that - issue is sangat tv should be adhering to Akal Takht edicts - they shouldnt be airing naamdarhis at all. Please if sanagt tv is reading this debat - answer why they did they air this prograame - i watched it - the guy talked of SATGUR PARTAP SINGH quite a few times on the show, it was crystal clear where he was coming from . I am all for naamdaris to come on here once they accept SGGS as there Guru and retake amrit as per akal takht maryada - neeldahris have done this of recent. So please dont paint everyone with the same brush. I need an answer from sangat TV or they should apologize to sangat via their channel for airing such individuals - i'm sure they are reading this debate - if no answer than my Direct debits are coming off to this channel by the end of this month.