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  1. so these clowns behind the anti sikh riots can visit country's like england and canada were sikhs have such a huge influene with votes yet sikhs can't get anything done were are sikhs going wrong why do western politicans allow in these criminals were sikhs have such a huge influence with their vote its one thing having protests and crying, why not just bring the community together to vote out any politican that doesn't speak up against these clowns my point is whats the best way to bring the community together to do this
  2. I don't like her mentioning sikhism cause sikhism teach's equality of men and women, but the punjabi culture is the reason why punjabi boys world wide are gangster wannabe's from LA to new york to vancouver to toronto to london to birmingham, growing up spoiled lack of responsibility's and family trying to protect their boys hence why they never turn into men But from what i hear everytime i go to vancouver is the weed smoking has led to hard drugs which is why alot of these g unit wannabe's brains are so fried and they end up shooting eachother Hence why the police are trying to let the parants know stop spoiling and raising little princesses who go from weed to hard drugs and to much gangster rap music with brains that are fried from all the crack and cocain they do leading to so much garbage
  3. gather local sikhs up at your local gurdwara, educate them on kamal nath, contant your local politican at the federal level, thats alot of votes if they do what we tell them to do sikhs need to learn to use democracy
  4. baba fateh singh akhara is a great place to learn mental strength this is why http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/63357-gurdarshan-gary-mangat-up-and-comming-mma-fighter/
  5. another reason you get charged with assult with weapon i don't know if you;ve seen boxers and mma fighters get into street fights they usually end them within 3 strikes with the other guys face caved in, and im not even talking about guys who crossed the line and are competing in profesional promotions im talking about guys who compete in amature promotions with 2 to 3 years of solid training Also at proper mma and boxing gyms they have high turn around rates were load of the students pay and don't come or quite cause the training is way to hard compared to traditional martial arts schools, thats why you see overweight badly conditioned black belts in their 20's and yet when you go to a boxing gym or mma gym a proper fighter is ripped, so alot of ppl choose to go to the traditional martial arts school cause they don't have the motivation to handle boxing and mma and the training so they choose schools like this theirs no evidence to prove that traditional martial arts works better then martial arts when with no rules we seen muay thai boxing ji jitsu wrestling destroy traditional martial artists end of debate
  6. you have no idea on any of this subject and i actually laughed tell me what mma is and how it came to be vale tudo tournments ufc and pride had tournments no rules to see what martial art was best, at stand up muay thai fighters and boxers destroyed kung fu artists from the ancient temples and kicked the butts of other ancient martial artists when it came to stand up when it came to ground it was wrestling ji jitsu that kicked teh butts of these ancient martial arts so naturally people who want to win started training in muay thai boxing wrestling and ji jitsu cause these martial arts destroyed all the ancient martial artists plus all martial arts evolve out of ancient martials arts were they take what works and inovate it to make it better and leave out the useless stuff, like muay thai that evolved out of martial arts like karate and thai boxing and it wasn't you but one of the dumbest things said in this thread was that the newer martial arts are watered down versions of ancient martial arts, only a person who is a retard when it comes to understanding street fighting and combat would say that why would anyone want to learn a watered down form of combat when its human nature to learn the best plus many mma fighters like george st pierre grew up learning ancient martial arts but don't use them and claim they don't work against martial arts like muay thai boxing wrestling and ji jitsu thats how mma evolved no rules fighting to see which martial arts were the best and stand up it was muay thai and boxing and ground wrestling ji jitsu its all these owners of these ancient martial arts schools who make up these rubish lies and say stupid things like mma is just a sport and ancient martial arts is were you learn how to really fight, and only people who don't do their research when choosing were to train are the once who fall for these lies and end up wasting their money and time when they can be training in much better combat systems like mma or boxing or krav mega theirs a reason amature boxers and mma fighters hands and feet get registered as weapons so if they get into a fight they get charged with assult with weapon and for the profesional boxers and mma fighters they get charged with assult with a deadly weapon you don't get that with a black belt lol, after 5 years of training in traditional martial arts you get a black belt but a guy who trains in mma for a year would destroy the guy who spent five years in a street fight just like we saw in the vale tudo tournments ufc and pride tournments. But after 5 years of full time training were you are going itleast 6 times a week to train for competition and you train in a proper mma gym or boxing gym they will register your hands as weapons
  7. i think i like the ideas of the person who started this thread having activity's that are fun to bring sikhs together and provide learning experience But what i would like to add is also providing the help for sikhs who suffer from bullying at school and or work and help for victims of abuse as in sexual abuse and aclhole and domestic abuse
  8. what needs to be mentioned this isn't a problem with the sikh religion but a problem with the punjabi culture, as sikhism teach's both women and men are equal and punjabi culture goes against this as well this article can be applied to all the gangster wannabe junkies from canada to the states to the uk to many punjabi kids growing up spoiled thinking their ghetto hood thugs but in reality little dumb <banned word filter activated> boys with lack of morals
  9. THE ROOTS OF GANG WARFARE B.C.'s Sikhs must look hard at themselves RENU BAKSHI -------------------- Renu Bakshi, who comes from a Punjabi background, is a reporter with CTV in Vancouver. To comment: response@macleans.ca -------------------- HE LEFT THE nightclub in his usual fashion -- the envy of the room, a beautiful woman on his arm. As he hailed a cab for the short ride to his posh condo in downtown Vancouver, a man with his history had to know he was pegged. "It all happened so fast," the cabbie would say as his fare lay bleeding, riddled with bullets on the road. Robbie Kandola. To youngsters and hangers-on, he was a name they knew and feared. To police investigators, he was a toe tagged No. 54. In the past 10 years in Greater Vancouver, Kandola had been the 54th young man killed in an Indo-Canadian gang war over drugs, money and women. The showdown of bravado has claimed victims execution-style on city streets. Suspects have forced victims to swallow gasoline before lighting a match. Some have been shot at close range at nightclubs. Others have just vanished without a trace. While the mode of attack varies, victim profiles are interchangeable. Their obituaries describe men in their early 20s. Eulogies honour "nice" boys from good families. Most discernable of all, the victims are predominantly Sikhs whose background, by birth or by family, is in India's Punjab region. No other Indian sub-community in the nation has lost so many young men to murder. Even with large Hindu and Muslim populations in Canada, this bloody gang war is unique to B.C.'s primarily Sikh community. With 50-plus murder files -- most unsolved -- and the threat of more looming, police investigators are scratching their heads. For years they've searched for answers, ever hesitant to ask a controversial question finally posed publicly by B.C. Supreme Court Justice Wally Oppal: "Why has the Indo-Canadian community raised a disproportionate number of killers?" Some people may cringe at the "stereotype," or gasp that such a discussion dare take place in an age when Canada has sworn in its first Indo-Canadian premier. But Justice Oppal is himself a Sikh. The truth is, the majority of the Punjabi community has contemplated the question, but chosen to quash it. Fear of legitimizing media coverage maybe? Or harming an already fractured community image? Not likely. This is a community that protects itself through denial. There's really no dodging this bullet. A Punjabi boy's aggression and contempt of the law can be traced to misguided religious beliefs and his family's traditional practices. Most of the 50-plus victims come from this same complex culture. From the moment a Punjabi boy opens his eyes, his parents hand him the keys to the Porsche of life. From now on, his mother will ride in the back seat, literally and figuratively, putting her son ahead of the world. Her boy will have the privilege of eating a warm meal, without the chore of clearing the dishes alongside his sister. In a fit of childhood rage, he will kick and punch his mother, as his father and grandmother look on, taking great pride in their boy's supposed courage. It is the same cycle in most Punjabi households. All Indos, as we tend to call ourselves, have witnessed parents, grandparents and relatives mourn the birth of a girl, even today, while celebrating news that an heir to the throne is born. As Indos, we know too many sisters who were raised under a microscope of discipline and fear, burdened with the terror of defying their parents or shaming the family. All the while, their male counterparts are heralded as the Kings of the Castle, allowed free rein. "That's my boy," Dad will say, as the little guy steals a sip of his Johnny Walker Red Label. Vancouver police Insp. Kash Heed knows the Punjabi culture well. He grew up in a Sikh family. Heed, now Vancouver's top drug cop, says he's embarrassed by the stigma facing his community. " 'That's my boy, that's my boy' has gone out of control," Heed says. "You have fathers and mothers praising their sons when these boys are involved in illegal activity -- drug trafficking and murders. But these parents are still going 'that's my boy' based on that old family principle." Heed agrees Punjabi boys grow up in a testosterone-fuelled environment run by an iron-fisted patriarch. In too many cases, violence is the tool with which the head of household settles disputes with his wife, as well as other members of the family. RCMP in the Vancouver suburb of Surrey, where many Sikhs live, say a disproportionate number of the domestic disputes their officers attend involve Sikh couples, and the disputes are almost always sparked by alcohol. Eventually, a young boy will become a young man and step into a community that thrives on bravado -- a world where everything is a grudge match, a fight to the finish. From Sunday sermons at Sikh temples to Friday nights at bars, police files show that disagreements among Punjabi men are regularly settled with the use of force. The difference is, youngsters have replaced the holy Sikh sword with machine guns. Five centuries ago, Guru Nanak founded Sikhism, a religion designed to promote equality among people. Although it evolved into a warrior religion, it was intended to uphold bravery in the face of evil. But the very essence of Sikhism, its spiritual struggle for human rights, has been perverted by misguided men bent on gaining power and exacting revenge. The Sikh teaching, "When all else fails, only then raise your sword," no longer applies to defending the defenceless. It is an excuse to use violence to settle the score. This is especially true in Greater Vancouver, where interpretations of Sikh principles have led to terrible bloodshed. Three orthodox Sikhs are currently awaiting trial in the 1985 Air India bombings that killed 331 people. Authorities believe the bombing was a Sikh separatist message for India's dominant Hindu government. Heed says there are numerous high-profile examples in Vancouver of Sikhs using delusional personal readings of religion to settle disputes. People, he says, need to look no further than temple "leaders" in B.C. whose battles for political power have been captured repeatedly on video for the six o'clock news. "Once, an item on TV showed a religious Sikh leader taking a big sword and slashing someone in the stomach," Heed says. "That happened at a temple. The image played over and over on TV." Violence is even part of Punjabi pop culture. Songs that play on local radio stations encourage Sikhs to be proud of their identity at all costs. Some lyrics go as far as encouraging youngsters to pick up pistols and rifles to fight for "justice." Bravado, Heed says, is part of the male species in general, but among Punjabis there are dangerous contributing factors. "Couple bravado with Sikh religion, couple it with the Punjabi culture and attitudes, and a lack of positive role models -- look what you have." What you have are young men who lack discipline and direction, young men who find adventure in earning fast money in the drug trade. Young men primed for violence. The catalyst for many teenage Sikhs may have come in 1994. Two young men gained notoriety far beyond the Sikh community when they used the evening news to exchange blatant threats. Weeks later, one of them was gunned down on a busy street in broad daylight. Television images showed paramedics working feverishly to save him from the gunshot wounds. The man charged but acquitted in his murder, Bindy Johal, emerged a hero among young men. "All of a sudden this behaviour was glorified," Heed recalls. "If kids wanted to make a name for themselves and settle schoolyard fights, they saw this as the way to do it." Those schoolyard fights have evolved into hunting season on Vancouver's streets. These days, gangsters are dying at the rate of one per month; Johal himself was later gunned down. It's a harsh reality, yet the Sikh community refuses to hear the wake-up call. Justice Oppal calls it willful blindness. "You tell me why a parent with an unemployed 23-year-old son driving a BMW doesn't think there's something wrong with that picture," he says. "Our sons are getting slaughtered but parents and the community are in a state of denial." Even after their sons are murdered in drug-related shootings, parents have often spoken on record to reinforce their sons' "innocence." Police officers have also described incidents where parents have slammed doors in their faces when they try to deliver news of the murder. Characteristics of Vancouver's gang problem are now emerging in Britain and the U.S. Authorities in northern California say only 25 per cent of their Indo-American community is Sikh, yet violent Indo gangs are made up almost entirely of Sikh youngsters. California parents are also caught in the cycle of denial. They say their sons are not part of gangs, they're just "boys being boys." Over the years, Oppal has seen a drastic increase in the number of young Indo men caught up in B.C.'s justice system. "The community can blame the police, they can blame the courts, they can blame society at large. But it's time we started looking inward." Oppal says the community and police need to work together to stop the killing spree, but he admits that ignorance in Vancouver's police department has contributed to the problem. "Police have never taken the time to get to know the Indo-Canadian community. This is what happened in the United States in inner cities where police are seen as the invading army. Police have no respect there." Heed agrees. He questions why police officers show up at the annual Indian Diwali festival wearing uniforms and stern faces. "When police go to other communities' events, they go in a community-policing role to meet and greet people," he says. "Why is it that at Indian events, they show up in a strictly enforcement role?" That may be changing. In Vancouver, an important first step between police and the community took place on June 15. Police officers faced off with members of the Indo community at a forum designed to build trust and help solve the city's gang problem. During the session, the split between police and the community was clear. Homicide officers expressed concern about the "conspiracy of silence" Sikhs use to protect their sons at the expense of solving murder investigations. Members of the community responded with accusations of racism. Why isolate "Indo" violence and host a forum, they asked. The statistics, however, won the day. Nearly 60 victims. Hundreds more gang members involved in the drug trade -- many of them "targeted" for murder, police say. That drove a strong debate against the aggression that has become an integral part of Sikh culture, religion and family values. Indo teachers, social workers, police officers and politicians called for community reforms to stop further bloodshed. At this stage, Oppal admits, some youngsters cannot be saved. "We just have to write them off," he says. Heed says police may have trouble keeping up with the deadly war. "The killings show no sign of slowing down," he says. "Eventually murder suspects become victims." Since Robbie Kandola's death in June, four more Indo men have made it onto the list of victims, one a university student who was only 18. Another was clinging to life last week after five men were shot in a Surrey parking lot. The sad reality is, none of these young men ever had a fair shot at life. That chalk outline on the sidewalk is the final page of the religious and cultural blueprint that was used to raise them.
  10. So much money comming into the gurdwara's yet most of that money is going to waste rather then being invested back into educating the community also i would like to add everyone has to to look at girls and boys who come from family's were abuse and domestic violence takes place, cause depression alchole abuse and drug abuse and low self esteem is caused by these problems as well Im also hoping more gyms like this open up for youth i believe the youth will learn alot about sikhi at this gym from http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/63357-gurdarshan-gary-mangat-up-and-comming-mma-fighter/
  11. http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/26893-sikhs-canada-whats-going-on/page__st__20 read everything in post 23, great example of people who support parmar like panthicweekly quote soft target when it suits them but leave the parts of parmar out so their people who claim indian government did it and parmar didn't using the book soft target for their defence but the book soft target has things to say about parmar that they purposly ignore
  12. I don't think you understand my point i believe parmar guys did it but don't believe the book soft target cause i don't believe in conspiracy's I believe parmar guys did it cause bagri made speech's about wanting to kill 50 000 hindus and parmar told people not to fly on air india and that air india planes would fall from the sky Now for people who don't believe parmar did it and try using soft target as their defence, must understand that in soft target's conspiracy it claims that the indian govt did and parmar was an indian govt agent so all soft target does is for people who believe in conspiracy's still point the finger at parmar but say's that he was a govt agent
  13. very true i don't believe in concpiracy's but for people who do i don't know why they leave what soft target says parmar out
  14. what i said was that the book soft target say's t parmar guys did the bombing but were working for the indian government i don't believe in conspiracy's so i don't think the indian government helped but i do believe parmar guys did do the bombing so conclusion if you believe the indian government did it cause of soft target then basicully your saying parmar did the bombing but worked for the indian government I don't believe soft target that indian govt was involved but if you do believe the book soft target it still say's the same guys were involved
  15. In the book soft target it say's parmar guys did the bombing but were working for the indian government the conclusion is either parmar guys did it with help from indian government or they did it and were not working with the indian government won't rest till 50 000 hindus are killed bagri parmar air india planes will fall from the sky I know inocent till proven guilty and i don't beleive the indian govt was involved in the air india bombing but if you do believe the indian govt was involved it still say's the same guys were involved just they were working for govt
  16. basicully parmar led the attack with government help or parmar guys did the attack but the indien government wasn't involved
  17. we need to set up youth programs, if the parants are busy working 18 hours a day then whose going to be their to teach them about sikhi we need something like ymca which is a program for kids afterschool but set up programs for education to learn leadership and sports and giving back to the community something to bring the community together and not segergate anyone and make it fun and interesting for everyone Also a place were kids arn't told how to live their life but educated cause human nature kicks in and people don't like being what to do and will not show up again
  18. it was on this website http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=18854&t=18854
  19. I just graduated high school and will be joing the united states marines, something i wanted to do this i was little I find it sad that we are no longer a community of saint soldiers Its sad to here from other sikhs excuses as to why to avoid the army my motivating factor is this 1. the injustices that the sikh community faces today cause the lack of saiint soldiers in our community, operation blue star the slaughter of over 200 000 sikhs yet very few saint soldiers to stand up if violence were to break out in the punjab again itleast ill be trained and ready, sad thing is so many sikhs talk about khalistan and the injustices but don't train their mind and body's to be saint soldiers so if the fight comes they will be prepared, you may claim you will fight just like ppl claim they will get into shape jan 1st every year only to train in the gym for 2 weeks and when the going gets tough they quite, if you really feel the pain sikhs have suffered then what do you do to educate yourself and train your mind and body 2. its sad that after sardars were allowed into the US army their our only two saint soldiers in the military, and very few saint soldiers in the british army under 100 sikhs in the british army, we are to be saint soldiers, if we are deployed to the battle field i see it as the job of a saint soldier to stand up to injustice and fight for what is right, against the talibon against al quida and even any american soldier that commits any kind of crime 3. i grew up with alot of discrimination but i always stood my ground and fought back, but was always saddened to see other sikhs coward out and take the easy road out especially after 9/11 4. i want to contribute and represent the sikh community, my goal is to make it green beret special ops and for college id like to get an education in nero sciences and human physcology, i want to know why sikhs have become slaves and remained slaves since 1849 and the under stand human nature so i can contribute back to my community and help over come this slavery in the punjab, sikhs are not slaves to hindus they are slaves to the evil corruption that hindus sikhs christians muslims of india suffer from, most indians themselves never got their freedom iinstead becamse slaves to corruption BUT MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WHY DON'T WE SEE MORE SIKHS IN THE ARMY, IN COMBAT SPORTS LIKE BOXING AND MARTIAL ARTS ARN'T WE SPOSE TO BE SAINT SOLDIERS AND I WANT TO KNOW BY LEARNING HUMAN NATURE WHY SIKHS WENT FROM SOLDIERS TO BEING BULLIED BUT MOST OF ALL WHY DON'T WE SEE SIKHS IN THE ARMY, AND THE UNITED STATES ENGLAND CANADA AUSTRALIA THESE ARE OUR HOME COUNTRY'S
  20. and yet sikh males everywere are getting softer and think their gangsta gangsta getting drunk needing a group of boys to fight one dude, don't know why are community stopped raising soldiers and instead little boys who are wannabe's who let this stuff happen to their sikh sisters and when i say sisters i mean any sikh girl who falls victim to this kind of bs also it shows the urgency to bring the sikh community together and something that brings young people together and doesn't leave a huge part of the community feeling segergated
  21. and sikhs have the last name basra so her mom could bin punjabi hindu and her dad sikh or her parants are sikhs who named their daughter after a hindu friend
  22. I found the below story. It's disturbing. But I'm wondering whether anyone can confirm it's true or not? It just seems too horrific to be real. ______________ A true account of what happened to a girl in Pakistan. A tale of truth and is upsetting. First of all before I start telling you what happened with me, I would like to thank my paa ji who showed me how my sorrow could be someone elses relief. Thank you paa ji. My story started when I was 16 years old living in Handsworth, we had just finished our last GCSE exams. To celebrate, we all decided to go to a "bhangra gig" during the day, as we knew we would not have been allowed to go in the night. There were 4 of us, best of friends, we decided to go, although we knew we would get into trouble if are parents found out, but we thought that we "only live once" and as it was a special occasion, so we went. This was the first time any one of us had done something like this, it was an experience. When we got there we could not believe how many people our age were there from all over Birmingham, all Asian! I was shocked more than my friends, there were people drunk, boys/girls smoking, this was the new generation of Asians enjoying the western world freedoms. I remember saying to my friends, "We need to stick together, no matter what happens", we honestly did not know what was going to happen once we were inside. Once we got in, they were playing some old bhangra tune? The whole place was packed with "apnaay". Everyone was just so chilled out, it was unbelievable. We got to a side of the club, and just stood there staring at every one dancing, flirting and of course fighting. About an hour later, we were approached by this really nice looking guy, came over to my mate and started chatting, we then noticed the "Kara" on his arm so we assumed it was ok to chat to him, his name was "Mick". We were then introduced to his mates, all of them were really smart and good looking. And we were enjoying this mingling with boys for the first time, we felt both scared and excited, because we had never done this before. They brought us drinks, and encouraged us to have some alcohol something we all strongly at that time refused, but once we paired up and went our separate ways everything changed (I never saw my friends again until a couple hours later, dancing with some strangers, and they were not themselves. I could not believe it, they were drunk! We justified dancing the way we were as we always danced at wedding parties.) I went over to them to see what had happened, they totally ignored me and encouraged me to drink which I then did. My dad would drink a lot so I assumed it be ok). We left the club at the end, it was about 4 o' clock, I remember thinking how the hell are we going to get home? We were giggling, And we were late and drunk. I knew my gran would, phone my mum at work if I did not get home in the next 20mins, (I was normally home about 3:50pm, and it was already ten past four, I was in the middle of Birmingham City centre, 40mins away from home by bus!! I was so scared, I knew I was going to get into serious trouble once I got home, and I smelt strongly of smoke and alcohol. My dad was going to kill me. We did not know what to do? Then the guys, who we were dancing in the club, came over and asked us if we were alright? or if we needed anything?, i.e. a lift home, because we were so desperate, we said yes. They dropped us home, we exchanged numbers and they went. I got slapped that day, my dad went absolutely mad, because I had lied, went to a club, danced with boys and got drunk! The whole family was really upset. I remember thinking I will never do anything like this again. My friends got the same treatment. It was not until a couple of weeks later, that some one kept ringing my house number, anonymous caller, and my gran, bless her, would go over to answer the phone, but no reply. Then one day, as my gran was cooking my roti, the phone rang and I answered, it was that guy from the club. I didn't know what to do. I was scared and yet anxious to what might happen. He wanted us to meet up again, he wanted to know how we were? This was going to be my first relationship. I got to know "Abs" over the next couple of months, we would arrange, the best times for him to call me, it was exciting, no one knew about him, I felt needed and loved. He was 18 at the time, and I had just turned 16. He drove a really nice car and worked for his uncle, in I.T. It got to a stage were we would meet up in the middle of the night, I would sneak out of my house, he would pick me up at the bottom of my street, and we would go everywhere together I was loving every minute of it and every time we would not see each other, I felt like dying I was truly in love with him. I did notice that he was not Punjabi, he dressed different to normal Punjabi boys that age, and he didn't drink and smoke. He knew a lot of Muslims, but I decide to ignore that fact, as I was having the time of my life. I had a funny feeling he was Muslim, but he wore a Kara? and I never had the courage to ask him, because I didnt want to ruin anything between us. But finally that day came when he revealed that he must go to the mosque, I was taken back, I didnt know how to respond, my boyfriend was a Muslim, and I loved him too much to let him go. I asked him about his name, his nickname was Abs. he had told me his name was Harbinder, but in fact his name was Yasseen. This was a distressing situation, he had lied to me and led me on to believe he was Sikh, but was in fact a Muslim. I confronted him, I asked him, you knew I was a Sikh, then why did you get into this relationship with me? He answered my question with a question, does it matter? And I remember replying "No" after a few minutes, I thought to myself he's not your typical Muslim, and he has treated me with respect. It was a hard time, I felt like breaking up with him, he was a Muslim, it wouldn't work? But I could not help it, he loved me, I loved him, and I kept reminding myself, he was different, and all those good times we had during the start of our relationship. So we decided to give it a shot, (what fool I was), we would spend a lot of time together, he got me job at his uncles firm, they all treated me with respect although I was a Sikh, and all of them were Muslim, they were so nice to me. I felt wanted and at home with me boyfriends family. We saw each other for over 2 year's (all through collage) and then came the time for me to leave my home and go to university, I went out of town a good few hours away, I wanted to live as far as away from my family as possible, as they were the obstacle, in my life from him. I had stopped wearing my Kara and my gold khanda necklace. I also stopped going to the Gurdwara, because I did not want to offend him, and I would use that time instead to be with him. I loved him and would do anything for him, anything. At university. Things got a bit serious, I lived in halls first, but everyone would look at me and call me names to my face and behind my back, they even trashed my flat twice!! All because I was going out with a Muslim, I would try to explain to them, he was different and he loved me, they would not have none of it, I felt so bad, he had to go through a lot because of me. This was a really bad experience for me, and I felt vulnerable and weak. Things started to change a lot during the first few weeks at my university. I quit uni, and moved into a flat with him, he got me another job, and again his cousin helped us financially. I never told my parents that I had done this, they would phone me, I would say everything was going excellent, and I would lie to them. During this time, I started to stop going home, I would say that I had too much uni work to do, and so I couldnt come home. Then, I stopped answering my phone from my family and friends, because I knew all they would say is to stop seeing him, and come home etc. so I changed my number, that's not the only thing I changed, a few months later I changed my name! We were happy together, we were in love, we were made for each other!! A few months later I even changed my faith, I became a Muslim, I was happy then to finally be apart of something that was so great, everyone loved me, and I was finally at home and peace. Islam then offered everything to me, it made sense and was the truth, Sikhism had to many flaws in it, or that is what I was told, and I believed everything he said, it all made sense, Sikhism was a man-made religion, it believed in caste (we had Gurdwara made on caste) we would make our women dance half naked on bhangra video's, while Islam would teach us to cover the women because she is so precious, like an diamond. I was duped, I knew nothing about Sikhism, my parents never told me, and I never learnt anything at the Gurdwara, never understood what the Granthi's were saying. And as a result I believed everything he told me. We then decided to get married, but he said we should go to Pakistan to that, because his sisters were there, and they were all dying to meet me! So I agreed, we went. The year was 1994, I was 19 years old. What I am about to tell you now, is the most disturbing part of my life, I have had to receive medical treatment from Doctor's on a regular basis for a long period, due to this. I would like to say something before I continue, what I am about to tell you, is no exaggeration in any way, this is exactly how it happened, and the metropolitan police are well aware of it. Whilst I was on the flight over to Pakistan, I was so excited, I was finally going to get married to the love of my Life, I never thought about my family or friends, as I had everything I ever needed through him. And because I was taught to believe that they were the devil, they will take me to hell, and I did not want to go there. When we reached Pakistan, there were a few people there to greet us, I had worn the hi-jab, as a sign of respect to my new in-laws and faith. They were so happy to see me. We were then herded into a 4x4, and then of we went to meet the rest of Yasseen's family. We were driving for a few hours, and I was absolutely worn out. We then stopped at what seemed to be a police station or the local sheriff's office, the luggage was taken out of the jeep, and these men came and took the luggage away, Yasseen came over and took my personal belongings, everything, my passport, money even my toothbrush, he said the police wanted to check our things, in case we were smuggling drugs, I remember laughing at first, but when I looked at his face, he was deadly serious, I gave him everything and then I was taken to a room, where I was told to wait. They asked Yasseen questions. It seemed like ages, while I waited in that room, on my own. I was getting very worried for Yasseen. During this time, two more cars and a jeep had come to this police station. Finally, a middle aged man came over and started to ask me personal questions. I had trouble understanding what he was saying, he spoke so fast, in Urdu. I kept asking him to take me to Yasseen. He said "Yasseen has gone", those three words stopped my heart beating, I was alone in a remote village in Pakistan, with no belongings and locked up a room. I did not know what to think? What was happening? This was not supposed to happen? Where had Yasseen gone? I cried, and pleaded with the men there to take me to Lahore, they would simply laugh at me and beat me. For a few days, I did not eat or sleep, I was disorientated, and I did not know what to do? I became ill, I was very weak, a doctor was called, he gave me some medicine, with which all I did was sleep. The next thing I remember was, when I woke up in a room, with a small barred window, and a small door. This door was locked from the outside, I started to scream, a women cam rushing over. I was relieved for a moment that women had come over to my aid, until she started to shout at me and curse me. I didn't know what was going on. I just sat there in that small, cold room, with blank mind. They would give some bread and water three times a day. I was allowed to go to the toilet only once a day. By now I had realized, I was not going home and Yasseen was not coming to my rescue. The building I stayed at was 3 storeys, and was very big. It must have had more than 30 rooms. It was the only building there, there was nothing anywhere around this building, just fields and 1 tarmac road. It was a brothel. I was not a lone there were 3 other girls (Sikh) that were in the same situation as me. We were all kept on the top floor, we were all given one room each. The other girls had been there longer than me, we would get a chance to speak during the night. They told me of their stories and how they got here, they sounded familiar. It would be very cold during the night. They told me, on the 3rd day, what happens here. This where, the locals came to enjoy themselves. I was very frightened. This is where they would come to quench their desires. I remember how they treated us, they would treat us like animals, they would rape us, and then spit on our faces after they were done. It was a living nightmare, with no escape. I spent 15 months here, over that period of time, I have seen 36 more girls been brought here, I have seen 7 commit suicide, by jumping of the building and 20 odd taken away by rich businessmen who would use them in their own brothels. I saw and lived in HELL, I saw young girls being raped, I herd the screams of these girls and their frustration, that no one would help them. When I first saw the police approach the building, I thought that we had been saved, was I proved wrong, they beat a girl to death right in front of us all, to show us who was in charge, and what would happen if we didnt co-operate. If you think for a second, that what I am saying is lies, go and approach the Scotland Yard, they have the full details of who the girls were and where they were from. I saw this with my own eyes, and no-one ever helped us. A time came when me and another girl, got the opportunity to escape, we had been taken to a local tribesmans house, a fight had broken out, in his house, in the confusion Guru ji gave us an opportunity to escape, we took a jeep, and set out on the roads, we didnt know where we were going, we just went, where ever the road took us. We got close to a town Called Eminabad, here we informed the police of what had happened to us, they helped us, we were handed over to the British embassy and sent back to the UK. Once back in the UK, the police tried to hand us back to our families, OUR OWN families had disowned us, my family told me to go away, that I had brought shame to the family name, I tried to apologise, and they would not accept it. I even tried to get help form the Gurdwara, they said they could not help us. We had to go back to the police, who then put us in a witness protection programme. The year is 1996, I was then 21. We both were given a new chance to start a fresh, the police helped us a great deal. In the programme we were given a place to stay and they gave us new jobs, to rebuild our lives. I am now 29, married and a 3 year old girl. I re-initiated into Sikhism in 1998, me and my friend, we took Amrit and took an active role to combat what had happened to us and help others in the same situation. There is not a single second that goes by, without me thinking about those poor girls locked up in Pakistan. I have been scared for life. But I must do everything I can to try to create awareness to help those girls that scream every night and go through that abuse. I am thankful to the Police who are trying to help those girls, but I think we as a community need to do much more. We must come out of hiding, and face the danger these girls now face. But what we find is a really negative attitude employed by all parties, the families, Gurdwara and the girls, to do anything about this. I know what happened to me and what is still happening to those that are in Pakistan. Accordingly to the latest figures, there are 300 girls there right now, facing constant abuse, who are getting drugged up everyday and then raped. One of them is your relative!! Just keep that I mind, your cousin who you have not seen for over 3 years, went to university and never came back! When you ask your uncle and auntie, where is your cousin who you nor your family have seen for so long, you get the reply, that she has brought a house there and she has found herself a good job, and so she is constantly busy. I beg you please stop these lies, please help my sisters' in Pakistan, who no-one helps, their families are too scared, or they don't know where she is? We must put a stop to this, I saw what is happening there, believe me, I do not even wish this to happen my enemies, when you see a young girl being raped by savages, who beat her and then spit on her you remember God, believe me when all you can hear is her screams to stop and her cry for help all you can do is watch. Those girls need your help! I pray all the time to Guru, to please help, those girls, every time I get the chance. We must make sure not a single girl goes to that living Hell from today. We must educate every one of our girls and boys about our religion. We must take it upon our selves to educate ourselves and our own families about Sikhism and the dangers it faces constantly. We must thrive to make sure this never happens to any girl, irrelevant of her religion ever again. I hope Guru Ji helps us. I hope you at least help your self and your own family. I would like to thank both the Pakistan and British police that are trying to combat this increasing trend, I hope all those that took those poor girls over to Pakistan, realise that God is within us all, and not just in the heavens, I wish they could just imagine for 1 single second, that one of those girls was their own sister! No one would ever want this to happen to anyone, believe me. We have altered the above account to safe guard our source. The name and locations have been changed and how our penji escaped has been changed dramatically for the simple reason not to jepordise any other girls opportunity to escape. Please note this is not racial incitement as it was MUSLIMS that finally got penji back into Britain. We would like to thank penji for giving us this account, we can only appreciate how hard it must have been to write this or what she went through! I would also like to say, please do not discriminate a whole race because of a small minority. This is against the principles Sikhi PLEASE EDUCATE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON OUR BEAUTIFUL HISTORY, LEARN ABOUT YOUR RELIGON SO THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO OUR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS AGAIN
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