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Could you please tell me how this meeting went and what was discussed with who, Commitee, in sangat, Darbar Hall, Commitee office...etc. I would really appreciate this as I was not able to attend! Thanks in advance! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: That would be great if the recordings could be uploaded on the internet. Could someone also note the publisher details and Sukhwinder's contact details on Sunday as I have no access to this channel - also for other sangat who are in the same situation. Please someone note this information and post it! Thanks! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Some good editing your doing there... :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: I was able to speak to the Manager of SSTV - Sur Sagar TV/Radio - Mr Ravinder Singh Pannu - this morning and had a long conversation. To cut a long story short, I could tell that it wasn't actually his fault and the interview with the menace to the Sikh relegion - Sukhwinder "Singh" - was backfired on Pannu. Pannu's original intentions were to show the Panth of this menace, to interview him and his views, so that people would be aware of such low rubbish exists in this world! You could tell this guy has had A LOT of phone calls about this issue (so excellent work everyone) and he has promised to never show him again - LOL - but the repeat will be shown again on friday - so that this time the message is conveyed in the correct way and SUKHWINDER's contact details are shown and what SSTV's real intentions were - But they will not be bringing him to the studio again! I have got the contact number for Sukhwinder who wrote the book "Santan De Kautak" - PLEASE RING ON: TEL: (If outside Canada - 001 goes first) - 0119 1185 1257 728 ...or you can try this number:... TEL: (001 if outside Canada) - 0119 1851 2257 728 EVERONE MUST PLEASE PHONE THIS SUKHWINDER AND ASK WHAT IS HIS PROBLEM - HE IS BOUND TO HAVE SOME SORT OF BRAIN DAMAGE FOR GOING THIS FAR!!! Now is the time to end all these Anti-Panthic Body's such as Sukhwinder, Ghuman and his Panjab Radio before they go too far!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Click on the following link to open a small audio file of Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji (Dhadrian Wale) talking about this so-called "Kachi Bani"!!! Link to Baba Ranjit Singh Audio Clip on "Kachi Bani" EVERYONE PLEASE LISTEN TO IT!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Click on the following link to open a small audio file of Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji (Dhadrian Wale) talking about this so-called "Kachi Bani"!!! Link to Baba Ranjit Singh Audio Clip on "Kachi Bani" EVERYONE PLEASE LISTEN TO IT!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

Infact Paaji, Sant Baba Attar Singh Ji ALONE initated 1.3 million into the Khalsa Panth by giving Amrit Paan, then Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji initiated 900,000 people into the Panth....a lot over a million....this SSTV - hmm I wonder - probably not even one!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: :doh: :doh: EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED! It HAS to be a brain problem or damage or shock or something for this guy to go that far - IT HAS TO BE!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

WKWF Some how you act like you have seen the accounts for the tours organised by Punjab Radio, or you are a part of the Punjab Radio team, don’t worry we are not planning to take your business away. I have told you before if you have no foundation for your argument tell some one who cares as from reading before you have no support and you have no one who agrees with you, and you have lost my attention too. Fateh. 107143[/snapback] :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: I TOTALLY AGREE - ITS BEST TO IGNORE THESE KIND OF PEOPLE WITH NO SUPPORT!!! Panjab Radio is Anti-Panthic and anyone who supports it is too OR MAY ACTUALLY BE PART OF THE TEAM ESPECIALLY IF THEY KNOW SOO MUCH ABOUT THE FINANCES OF SUCH AN ORGANISATION!!! - thats my opinion anyway!!! A radio station that just does nindya of people who are trying and successful in bringing Sikhs to the Khalsa Panth by intiating them with Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Amrit can't under no circumstances be Panthic!!! Therefore any supporter of such an organisation can also not be Panthic!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :|

Every comment by everyone has so far been 100% SPOT ON!!! Also to add to Singh Shirimoni's Dhaarna that Sant Bhindranwale used to sing, "Ditya Baaz Nahi Rehana Dharam Sir Dittiya Bazz Nahi Rehna" - there was also, "Eh Panchi Kala Hai, Edheh Magar Shikari Bauthe" - and also another popular one they used to sing was, "Sir Jaave Ta Jaave, Mera Sikhi Sidak Na Jaave"!!! Some of these people think they have a lot of respect for Sant Bhindranwale, but on the other hand say these Sants are fake they sing "kachi bani" and by doing so they are contradicting themselves!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: I agree with you "Naamras" on every line you have written!!! :TH: Also yes, it is easier to make allegations and harder to prove, as Naamras has highlighted in his post - Nothing was mentioned about Panjab Radio and their previous acts that are being discussed now until they crossed the line - they started making the allegations, and it is only now that we have started stating the FACTS!!! Hmm... - also, I wonder why this statement is not put into effect with other older issues that arose last year with some other Sant - allegations were made easily by some stupid cheap newspaper, but no proof was provided and to this day them allegations have not been proved!!! - Yes, I definately agree with you there "RSingh" - It is definateley easier to make allegations, but harder to prove!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: I agree with you 100% Singh Shiromoni - I have also heard about them refusing to organise the coaches for the protests in London! I also AM thinking of what your thinking - Powar and his thugs have made it way too obvious now!!! It is also very disgraceful about them not letting the solicitor from Punjab speak on stage - that is really really disgusting - This Powar and the committee need to be chucked out ASAP - just like Panjab Radio - they are very alike - Anti-Panthic, Congress funded, contacts with top politicians in the Indian Government...etc etc - They should be stopped!!! I think the youth need to organise something against this committee - I'm with you all the way bro if help is needed!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

I agree 100% with what your saying "Sat1176" - it has been discussed many times, but no audio file has been uploaded so far as of yet and these people need to hear an explanation from Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji himself, so if anyone knows how to upload a small 10min audio clip, I will be grateful if you could tell me!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Probably one of Surjit Ghuman's mates and the show is probably linked with Panjab Radio and also supported and funded by Government Of India to split and make divisions in the panth and cause internal problems!!! Could someone also post up the contact numbers or methods for this SSTV thing and where and how it operates and what channel do they broadcast - Also when is their next "Sant Bashing" program - It is another serious issue that needs to be dealt with as well - I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THESE CONTACT DETAILS!!! If this was the 80's during Sant Bhindranwale's time, non of these organisations would have the guts to speak like this - why is that??? - BEACAUSE AT THAT TIME THE SIKH PANTH WAS AS ONE SIKH BODY!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: I also have an audio file by Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji about this so-called "Kachi Bani" from the Smethwick diwaan, could someone email me or tell me on this thread about how I would be able to upload this somehow to clear up for some people who do not attend the diwaans on Baba Ji's thoughts about "Kachi Bani"!!! Thanks in advance... :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Some excellent posts by the sangat - like Namras and good work Kaur1978 - Everyone should do the same - WE MUST ALL KEEP PHONING THEM and PHONE OFCOM AS WELL!!! I also phoned again, and Surjit Ghuman was still "not available" to talk to - same excuse as yesterday, they say he will be hear in the evening - probably having an early drink in the broadway pub and a few ciggeretes to get him warmed up for some more Sant Bashing - - But I think they are likely to calm down now due to the sangat phoning and all the talk going around the country about Panjab Radio!!! The guy I just spoke to on the phone was shivering this time - I asked him when was the next live air discussion - he said wednesday evening - and I was like will Ghuman be on air, he said no - Ghuman only does the "culture" program (he couldn't do the relegious ones because of his lack of knowledge of basic Sikhi) - I said theres a lot being said about you and people are not happy of all this Sant Nindya and he way just like yeh yeh kind of thing - I said why was it announced that the Slough diwaan was cancelled, when it wasn't - he said the Gurdwara Commitee told us - I said they told you, Panjab Radio - I said give me their telephone number and then he started getting very agitated and was like O its ok for people to broadcast their opinions, but you can speak with Ghuman in the evening - and I said if Ghuman has anything to say - Baba Ji is willing to speak to him live on air so that all Panjab Radio listeners internationally can listen - then he was like you need to speak to Ghuman in the evening, but I'm sorry for causing you any inconvienence and I said yes I will DEFINATELY speak to him!!! People, NOW is the time to put forward as much complaints as possible to Ofcom and Panjab Radio - as the time has come for Panjab Radio to stop this nonsense in the future!!! Panjab Radio have also now got many official licences in India to broadcast live and are opening up offices at many places - This is all with the help of Captain Amrinder Singh and the Congress Government Of India - THIS IS OFFICIAL!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Also, YES, I will definately be attending the final diwaan of Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji (Dhadrian Wale) of their June/July Tour to England on 12th July 2005 at Guru Nanak Sikh Temple, Sedley Street, Wolverhampton at 7.00pm - 9.00pm followed by this tours final Amrit Sanchaar before they leave to go back to India the following morning on the 13th July 2005!!! If people are going to the London Protest from Wolverhampton or local from there, it should not be a problem as the coaches will be back to the Gurdwara in time for the diwaan - It will be an excellent day, especially for those who will be going to London and listening to the diwaan in the evening as well - TAKE LAHA SANGAT JI! I HOPE EVERYONE IS ABLE TO ATTEND AS THIS WILL BE A CHARDI KALAA DIWAAN DEFINATELY!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

WKWF Punjab Radio know that the parchaar of Sant Ranjit Singh is reaching out to a lot of people, this must have the Indian government worried that a new Bhindranwala is being born, which has probably put pressure on Punjab Radio to do something. We need people like Sant Ranjit Singh. WKWF 106965[/snapback] :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: Ghuman and Panjab Radio are trying soo hard at the moment now to somehow defame Sant Ranjit Singh Ji as quickly as possible by using all possible means - what is their problem - why would they want to do that - it will cause divisions in the panth - something that Sant Bhindranwale stood-up to stop and to join the panth as one body and what thousands of Shaheeds became Shaheed for - why would they want to cause splits and divisions without a reason - I'm sure most of you can work it out!!! Baba Ji is very upset at the moment - they said that if people think they are here for the money - THEY CAN TAKE IT ALL - EVERY penny he has recieved in England - which ever Gurdwara Committee, or person or organisation is saying this can take it all!!! - AND THESE FOOLS ARE SAYING BABA JI IS HERE FOR THE MONEY!!! - Only Waheguru can bless them now to come to their senses!!! Keep phoning everyone - and tell everyone you know to as well, and to email them!!! Link to Panjab Radio Contact Page ...or you can phone them on: 0208 848 8877 I have tried phoning this evening, but no one is answering the phone now - everyone keep trying tomorrow!!! Ask them - why did they announce the Slough diwaan was cancelled because of "innappropriate behaviour of Sant Ranjit Singh" and what has Sant Ranjit Singh done wrong and why are they "bashing" this person without reason??? - PLEASE EVERYONE - ITS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN BE STOPPED!!! I mean what does Ghuman and the Panjab Radio Managing team know - they are hypocrits - they speak Sikhi on the radio, but during meetings and other places or occasions they have ciggeretes in their hands - HOW DISGUSTING IS THAT - What they do will influence the level of Sikhi they can "preach" - you can ask anyone who has seen them or is close to Panjab Radio about this fact!!! Someone also saw Surjit Ghuman drinking alcohol on the airplane once during a flight to India about two years ago and they openly criticised Surjit Ghuman live on radio for this and his hypocrisy. Surjit Ghuman obviously denied this and afterwards twisted the story and said live on radio that it was the person who was on the phone who is drunk and thats why he is making false allegations against him live on air!!! - IT IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR - These people smoke and drink...etc - no wonder their knowledge of Sikhi is so low and their knowledge of how to do nindya and make divisions in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Panth is so high!!! - What else can you expect from these kind of people!!! They were also the ones to quickly propagate the Baba Maan Singh false alegations rubbish throughout southall and on their GOI funded radio media - when this media could be used to make the panth ONE - as the Sikhs already need more panthic media to show their views - instead, Panjab Radio is used as a propaganda machine to propagate false rumours and allegations to divide the Sikhs!!! - DISGRACEFUL!!! SHAME ON THEM!!! Also PLEASE make a freindly thankyou call and/or an email to Amrit Bani and Raaj Radio for their enormous efforts of sewa to broadcast the diwaans on live radio!!! - I phoned them and some other people have as well and they are VERY FRIENDLY people on the phone - phone Panjab Radio and you will definately see the difference!!! AMRIT BANI RADIO: 020 8606 9292 - Amrit Bani Contacts Page Link RAAJ RADIO: 0116 275 6212 - Raaj Radio Contacts Page Link I have heard that Baba Ji maybe asking Ghuman to talk directly with him - maybe LIVE ON RADIO - and he'll answer anything that is asked - Panjab Radio will soon be exposed to the world and its links with GOI - guaranteed!!! - They have gone way too far this time!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :|

Panjab Radio Contact Page

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: ...at least he's trying with all these speeches and everything!!! Never mind what he was like before - people make mistakes - he is human afterall - but he's Khalistani now and thats what counts!!! ITS PEOPLE LIKE SURJIT GHUMAN AND HIS PANJAB RADIO WHO AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME NEED TO BE STOPPED FOR DIVIDING THE PANTH IN HALF!!! - PLEASE TAKE PART IN PHONING AND EMAILING THEM TO STOP THEIR DIRTY SANT BASHING ACTIVITIES!!! Jagjit Singh Chohan at the moment is on our side (if your pro-khalistan anyway) and he is supporting Khalistan - there is no need to put down people like him until he actually commits anti-panthic acts - there are larger issues that need to be addressed at the moment!!! No offence anyone - Bhull Chuk Maarf!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Singh's listen - this is getting out of hand now - Panjab Radio and other Sant Bashers are really over doing this propaganda. Baba Ji is currently very upset about this and considering to go back to Punjab - One of the Gurdwara's in Southall were telling them that they want all the money from one of the diwaans and Baba Ji was like take all the money from all the diwaans, as he is not here to make money, but to do Sikhi Parchaar!!! - SHAME ON THESE SO CALLED "SIKHS"!!! The Indian Government, RSS...etc is all out there to divide the panth and cause internal problems - Panjab Radio has been given licences directly from the government to broadcast in India as well - PLEASE DO NOT FALL IN THIS GOVERNMENT AIDED AND PLANNED TRAP!!! - Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale woke the sleeping panth to stand-up to these agencies and their propaganda that was splitting the panth - DO NOT FALL ASLEEP AGAIN!!! - WAKE UP SIKHO!!! EVERYONE MUST take part in phoning Panjab Radio and emailing them to stop this nonsense at once!!! - It will be even better if people phone in live and tell them off - I certainly will be doing so!!! SURJIT SINGH GHUMAN AND HIS PANJAB RADIO MUST BE SHUT DOWN NOW!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Panjab Radio and Ghuman are obviously not going to say anything good, only try to spread propaganda about Baba Ji!!! - The only reason the people collect money is for sewa so that people don't have to get up and disturb the atmosphere - its nothing to do with Baba Ji or the Gurdwara committees - they are just trying to help the sangat and I can guarentee they don't force you to give money - they are merely helping not to disturb the atmosphere and helping the sangat so they don't have to get up - although, no offence to them, they do disturb the atmosphere a little - and Baba Ji DOES TELL THEM TO STOP AS IF ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE MAYA, THEY CAN DO SO DURING THE ANAND SAHIB!!! Panjab Radio haven't a clue about what they're on about and have no base for an argument - one day some Singhs are going to question them and they won't know what to say!!! Listen to Baba Ji's diwaan - todays one in Leicester - Baba Ji is talking about this "Maya" issue - they have no intention about collecting money!!! - They are telling EVERYONE TO GIVE MONEY TO PLACES SUCH AS SHAHEED FAMILIES!!! - Now thats wicked parchaar!!! - Something everyone is forgetting in todays age!!! They are putting great emphasis into this - to give maya to poor families in India and Shaheed Families!!! They were very angry today in the leicester diwaan that people are labelling them as someone who asks for Maya (no doubt Baba Ji has also heard about Ghuman and his Panjab Radio) and say that he was considering why come here if people are saying this about him and all the sewa they are doing in India of Amrit Sanchaar may also go to waste because of the rumours being stirred here!!! They have also emphasized the point about the "beadbi" that is happening towards Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in good detail - This is because someone has informed Baba Ji about this happening in England and the taking of Maharaj into Pubs and Clubs - So Baba Ji has told the sangat about it - If Baba Ji is told about something - they will without doubt take on the issue - but they have to be informed by someone in the first place! In fact, Baba Ji was given three main hukams by Sant Baba Karam Singh Ji (Rara Sahib Wale) that if you want to preach and do kirtan successfully, you must: 1/ Never take off your "Chola" 2/ Do not get married 3/ NEVER ASK FOR MAYA (MONEY) ...and they have followed this until today and will continue to do so with Waheguru Ji's kirpa for the rest of their life! IF YOU HAVE NOT LISTENED TO TODAYS DIWAAN 3RD JULY IN LEICESTER - PLEASE DO SOMEHOW BY BUYING THE CD OR SOMETHING OR SOMEONE TAKE THE SEWA TO UPLOAD AT LEAST THE END OF IT AS BABA JI HAS CLEARLY EXPLAINED THIS "MAYA" ISSUE AND ABOUT THE "BEADBI" OF MAHARAJ THAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN IN TODAYS WORLD!!! - A BEAUTIFUL DIWAAN!!! Baba Ji don't even like to show off in anyway whatsoever, a premi sewadaar wanted to put up banners just simply saying "Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji Dhadrian Wale" on the New Range Rover they are mostly using to travel around the country, so that when Baba Ji comes to the Gurdwara, it is easier to tell which car Baba Ji is in so that parking is easier and Baba Ji can enter the Darbaar Sahib quicker for the diwaan to start on time, but Baba Ji said to not to do so as people may think he has got them put up himself!!! It is not Baba Ji that tells the sangat to do Jaikare when they enter the darbaar hall or people to touch their feet or for them to travel in Range Rovers and other big cars - It is simply the Sangat's prem and pyaar for the Gurbani that Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji is preaching to the masses - AND FOR THIS GHUMAN & PANJAB RADIO AND OTHER "SANT BASHERS" HAVE NO RIGHT TO INTERFERE IN AS IT IS THE SADH SANGAT - NOT BABA JI!!! The sewadaars time and time again, along with Baba Ji himself tell the sangat to greet him with "Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh" and not to touch his feet. If you go to their headquarters in Patiala, there are about 4 or 5 Singhs outside where Baba Ji sits to tell the sangat to greet with WJKKhalsa WJKFateh and not to touch Baba Ji's feet! But its the Sangats pyaar and Baba Ji has nothing to do with this, therefore Ghuman, Panjab Radio and the rest have no right to pick faults from Baba Ji!!! Ghuman and Panjab Radio need to be stopped now - Please take part in phoning them or emailing to stop this nonsense and spreading of propaganda to split the Panth!!! - Also phone or email Amritbani and Raaj Radio to say thankyou for their sewa. The same nindya was started about Baba Maan Singh in the early stages with rumours being stirred, which in time turned into false allegations - although the Sant is still in Chardi Kalaa today with Waheguru Ji's kirpa - LET THIS NEVER HAPPEN TO SANT BABA RANJIT SINGH JI DHADRIAN WALE - IT MUST BE STOPPED NOW!!!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: Yes, the last diwaan in Wolverhampton is going to be very good. If people are going to the London Protest from Wolverhampton or local from there, it should not be a problem as the coaches will be back to the Gurdwara in time for the diwaan - It will be an excellent day, especially for those who will be going to London and listening to the diwaan in the evening as well - TAKE LAHA SANGAT JI! Everyone - "Gurdwara Singh Sabha, Glasgow, Scotland" tomorrow "Monday 4th July 2005" from "7.00pm - 9.00pm". PLEASE ATTEND AND TAKE FULL LAHA OF THIS VALUABLE TIME WHILE WE CAN!!! Is there anyone here who knows they will be going or from Scotland that will be going, also does anyone know how big the Gurdwara in Glasgow is??? :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh:

:doh: :doh: :doh: DEFINATELY KHALSA JI!!! :doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! :doh: