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  1. Punjab had so many forts before Maharaja Ranjit Singh took over. The Sikh misls had created hundreds of forts big and small all over Punjab. The biggest of them was the one built by the Ramgarhia misl in Amritsar. But they were all dismantled or destroyed as Maharaja Ranjit Singh took their territories. This practice of destroying forts was called 'slighting' in which the forts of enemies were destroyed after their capture. This of course was done for strategic reasons to prevent those forts from being recaptured in future.
  2. The government of Pakistan which in reality is the army and ISI does not support what these lunatics are doing. But surprisingly the Muslims that are after this sight are not Wahhabi type Muslims who we generally associate everything bad with Islam. They are Barelvis aka Sufis. Not all Sufis are the same. These guys are Chistis. On the surface they seem very peaceful but in reality they have a very dark past. Their great leader who they venerate, Khwaja Moinudin Chisti who was located in Ajmer India hated Hindus and is the one who invited Muhammad Ghauri to invade India and destroy Chauhan Rajput rule which forever changed the course of Indian history. Then we have the Naqshbandi Sufis who are the worst of them all. It was the Naqshbandi leader Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi who instigated the Mughals to make Guru Arjun Dev ji Shaheed and start targeting the Sikhs for persecution since many Muslims were becoming Sikhs. Only the Qadiri Sufis are the good ones. They were on friendly terms with the Sikhs. Their Sheikh, Sain Mian Mir Ji was close to Guru ji and he tried to prevent the Shaheedi of Guru ji. To this day Sikhs respectfully remember this great saint.
  3. Who ever runs the No Conversion site is doing an excellent job. He has a channel on YouTube and he's on Facebook and Twitter exposing these fraud Christians. These Christians are growing strong mainly in Majha region. Tarn Taran is still okay but the situation in Amritsar and Gurdaspur is pretty bad. The Christians have not been able to make a big break in Doaba yet even though the people there are not religious. In Malwa where Sikhism is the strongest the Christians have not had any success yet. Generally people of Malwa have very strong faith in Sikhi. The way these Christians spread their cult is very unethical. They trick their intended prey by using the same religious terminology as the religion they oppose. For Hindus they use words like: Jesus they call him Prabhu Yasu and even Mary Ka Lala Mary they call her Devi Mary Hymns are sung in the fashion of Hindu Bhajans in front of moortis of Jesus and Mary. Hindu dances like Bharat Natyam, Dandiya and even Christian Yoga. They deceive Sikhs similarly by copying our terminology and concepts. They used the same tricks with Muslims in Malaysia. But now the government of Malaysia put a ban on them from using Islamic terms like Allah so the evangelical Missionaries won't be able to fool Muslims. Got to give credit to Muslims. They know how to protect themselves from these missionary vultures any way they can.
  4. Nij Nari means one's own Nari i.e. wife. Par Nari means someone else's Nari. But yes the paap is for fornicating with all women who are not ones own wife.
  5. A few years ago I once saw my neighbor taking his shoe and hitting it on the ground in front of his house. It looked like he was killing an insect but later upon asking him he told me that someone is doing a Tona on his family and he is hits his juti like this to finish the effects of the Tona. Looked funny though
  6. Sikhs are indeed the true loyal sons of Punjab. Hindus and Muslims are ashamed to speak their mother tongue Punjabi. Hindus promote Hindi and Muslims likewise promote Urdu. Sikhs are the only ones who die for Punjab and preserve Punjabi language. That's why Prof Pooran Singh famously said: 'ਪੰਜਾਬ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ, ਪੰਜਾਬ ਜਿਉਂਦਾ ਗੁਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਨਾਂ ਤੇ' which means Punjab is neither Hindu nor Muslim. Punjab lives in the name of the Gurus.
  7. Hagia Sophia is not just any building. It's the most iconic church in history. It's very fall to the Ottomans marked the end of the Byzantine empire and a symbolic defeat of Christianity to Islam. Even if there are barely any Christians left is Turkey doesn't matter. If there are no Sikhs left in Pakistan does that mean Nankana Sahib and Panja Sahib should be turned into a mosque if the majority muslims want it? What is wrong is wrong. That is why Christians all over the world are condemning this recent decision. And it is also worrisome for other non Muslims since Erdogan has set a new precedent in modern times. When the Taliban blew up the Bamiyan Buddha statues the world condemned it but it was explained away as being done by the Taliban who are a fringe fundamentalist backward group. But Erdogan is a well educated man and Turkey is a modern European country. If they can do something like this, it will give encouragement to Muslims all over the world to follow this example.
  8. David Wood has made some excellent points here about this issue. Muslims have lost the moral argument after today. Erdegan has proven that when Islamists are in a position of power they will abuse that position. They lost the right to complain about Ram Mandir that will be re built at Ayodhya by Hindus or when the Jews will eventually rebuild their temple at the site of Al Aqsa. Muslims have shot themselves in the foot on this one.
  9. Exactly. They ridicule the existence of Devi Devtas yet believe in the existence of the Buraq a horse with a human head, how is that anymore real or absurd than the Hindu belief in Ganesh? They believe in angels with huge wings, Jinns, satan, rivers of wine. You should see how their preachers describe the physical appearance of Hoors, the audience starts to get all lusty especially the old men lol. They got it all, no different from Hinduism, yet they act so condescending towards the Dharmic religions.
  10. You are not debating. Please try to debate with facts not lies. You will not get very far with lies. When you say Sikhs were poor Hindus who were forced to convert into Sikhism, forced by whom? There is no precedent in our history of forced conversions, not even one. But Muslims the list is endless. You cannot deny it. Islamic history is as violent and oppressive as Christian history. Both Abrahamic cults. As for us believing in the existence of Devi Devtas. It is a fact they exist based on our scriptures. We don't subscribe to the Islamic paradigm of saying anything that is beyond the scope of the Quran and Hadith's is non existent. Abrahamic cults are like the frog in the well who does not know of the vast world beyond the well. Islam is just Arab paganism mixed with Judaism. Nothing more. As for you saying we are a foot note in Islamic history well we don't want to be a part of Islamic history. Islamic history is a history of human suffering, slavery, oppression, rape, forcible conversion. That's not something to be proud of.
  11. Pashtuns are the only respectable ones. The rest of the desi Muslims are just descendents of Hindus forcibly converted to Islam. They are a confused lot. First pretending to be Persians, Arabs and since the Urdu dubbing of the Turkish Drama Ertugul they now pretend to be Turkish lol. Even giving their kids Turkish names. They are ashamed to speak their own native languages with their wife and kids and have become Urdustan. Such a massive inferiority complex.
  12. These are the lies Pakistanis have been fed since 1947. Sikhs who were outnumbered by the Punjabi Muslims 10 to 1 banned azan and used badshahi mosque as a horse stable? Yet Muslims never rose up in rebellion? That's more insulting towards Mardangi of your ancestors than it is to us. Punjabi Muslims were given a place of respect by the Sikh rulers that they never received from the Afghan and Turkic rulers but Pakistani mullas don't teach that
  13. Guru ji killed only those Masands who had indulged in crimes against Sangat like raping of women, looting and killing. So they were given punishment. It was not about forcible conversion as you claim. If you don't have a point to make then at least don't use lies to make one. Or maybe you are trying to bring our Gurus down to the level of your prophet who had owned black slaves, used torture to extract treasure, marry an underage girl playing with dolls(pedophilia), marry his Jewish wife Saffiya the same day after killing her father and husband, marry his daughter in law because he was sexually aroused by her beauty. Besides this he destroyed idols of the Pagans of Makkah and told the Meccans to convert or leave Makkah. Is this the person you follow?
  14. Unlike Islamic rule Sikhs never persecuted or forcibly converted Muslims or Hindus to their religion. There were never any Hindu Muslim riots not even Shia Sunni violence like we see in Islamic ruled countries and empires. Sikhs never converted Mosques or Mandir into Gurdwaras. Islamic rule cannot hold a candle to Sikh rule. In Islamic rule Muslims killed Gurus, spread Islam forcibly, destroyed or converted non Islamic Shrines into Mosques. And Islamic rule in India was the rule of Afghan and Turkic people who are a Qaum apart. I don't know why desi Muslims take pride in it who are a result of rape and forcible conversions of these foreign Muslims
  15. In Ranjit Singh's empire the Sikhs were a mere 6% of the population while Muslims were 2/3 of the population. The Muslims outnumbered the Sikhs 10 to 1. That's Pathetic but only for the Muslims not for us.
  16. I never said Muslims destroyed the temple. But before the Jewish conquest of Jerusalem the Muslims restricted Jews from visiting even the western wall which is the last remnant of their ancient Temple. Now that the Jews are strong enough they reconquered Jerusalem and go to the Western wall unrestricted. When the Ottomans conquered Constantinople they forcibly converted the Hagia Sophia into an Islamic shrine. Ata Turk tried to undo this wrong but Erdogan reversed this and you like millions of Muslims support this. So using your logic you should have no problem with the Jewish reconquest of Jerusalem and when they rebuild their temple or even with the Hindus rebuilding the Ram Mandir at Ayodhya. I thank God I am born a Sikh. We never destroyed the religious shrines of others nor ever forcibly converted others to our religion.
  17. Although I feel deep down we all expected this from Muslims and shouldn't feel surprised. But because of my interactions with Muslims I still give them benefit of doubt hoping that since this is the 21st century they might have also updated to this century from their mid evil period mindset. But I was wrong seeing them do this to the Hagia Sophia. It's just the sheer hypocrisy that is really shocking. On one hand they lament and cry as victims over Hindus building the Ram Mandir and Jews occupying Jerusalem and Temple Mount but shamelessly feel no qualm by turning Hagia Sophia into a Mosque. No one is a victim here. It's just Jiski Laathi Uski Bhains(ਜਿਸਕੀ ਲਾਠੀ ਉਸਕੀ ਭੈਂਸ) type of mindset at work here. When Muslims were strong enough they destroyed Ram Mandir in Ayodhya, turned Hagia Sophia into a a mosque. When other groups are strong enough they take it back and the Muslims play the victim card.
  18. Muslim Neighbour. As a Muslim how do you justify turning the most sacred shrine of the Orthodox Christians into a Masjid? If that is justifiable for you then why object to Jews reconquering Jerusalem and the the Masjid Al Aqsa from the Muslims? We all know it is just a matter of time before they rebuild their Temple there. When and if Muslims object the Jews will probably just cite how Muslims justify turning Hagia Sophia into a mosque so they did same
  19. But the Shastars contained in the Khanda symbol are all Puratan Sikh Shastars i.e. miri piri kirpans on the sides, khanda in the middle and a chakr.
  20. There has never been any Puratan Sikh Sampradah, Jatha, group within the Sikh Panth that has ever legitimized homosexuality. Not even one precedence in our history. Yet the original poster is trying to use this argument that we are influenced by colonialism. Truth of the matter is it is only now with western born Sikhs who have been brainwashed by the cultural norms of the west that they are trying to impose western paradigms on the Sikh community.
  21. Muslim women are the ones who raise the voice of Islam the most in the West. In the US look at Ilhan Omar and Linda Sarsour. All the western SWJs leftists white liberals, feminists support them.
  22. Muslims it seems are the only ones making noise about this matter. Concerned white parents are now too scared to say anything because they know they'll be labelled as bigots. But when Muslims do it white SJWs are left confused on what action to take because both Muslims and the LGBTQs are the main causes that they fight for.
  23. Manmat creeps in when people go after the latest fad. Since the last 20 years look at all these anand karaj occurring on the beaches of Mexico with semi naked white women walking around in the Hazuri of Guru Sahib on the beach. Our own have no sharam left when they do this. Homosexuality is the latest fad. We are already seeing our own SJWs making noise about allowing this in a Gurdwara twisting the meaning of Hukm by saying this is all Hukm of Maharaj. Soon the new generation of Sikh kids who have been indoctrinated in schools about this mental disorder through sex ed will do the unspeakable by allowing this manmat to occur.
  24. The way things are going in the West it's just a matter of time before we see that circus show happening in a Gurdwaras Sahib. They are brainwashing kids from a young age through sex ed. They've already forced some Christian denominations to allow gay marriage. I've heard some fringe Muslim imams have allowed gay nikas to occur in western Europe. Be ready for when this manmat will also be forced on the Anand Karaj.
  25. If being lgbtq is hukm then using that line of thinking what prevents one to say pedophilia, incest relations, zoophilia, necrophilia and other weird paraphilia are also not hukm that some people are supposedly born with. You can then justify any and all weirdness and paaps under the garb of Hukm. Bani says Paap Bura Paapi Ko Piara. A Paapi loves to do Paap and to justify that paap he will do all sorts of mental gymnastics with religious concepts. You are accusing others of being influenced by colonialism but you are brainwashed by the modern SJW leftist way of thinking of the westers.
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