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Not2Cool2Argue

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  1. You are right that sangat is your only cure. Because logic does not seem to work with your mind. Also tell your mind, what will watching gandh and living a nihilist negative atheistic life do anything for anyone? Isn't it better to believe in something positive, as it will stop you wasting your life. So where are you located so we can help you find sangat. Also discipline and action can also save you. Thoughts alone will not. Read posts by someone named Sat on here. They say get up at 5. Do 1 hour simran and japji sahib. Then go to work. Then work out for 1 hour. Then rehraas sahib and listen to 30 mins of kirtan. Then go to sleep early. Do this for 1 week. Avoid internet. Instead of sangat of people, you can do sangat of guruji. Which is by hanging out with guruji. Which occurs by listening to kirtan, looking at God's creation (going out in nature) and listening to katha and reading gurbani. Check out dodra samagam website and akj.org for places to attend sangat. Use Google maps to find closest gurudwaras.
  2. Where can I find more info on this. So far I've heard about this intergalactic stuff from matias stefano
  3. Don't worry about the children. As a respected and fun uncle you will have more influence on them than their mother and her superstitious beliefs. Also the kids will be growing up in the west, attending gurudware which will make then more like us westerners. Also when hanging out with the future kids you can build tolerance in them by inocukating them against the pandit stuff. Like pandits think they can predict human behavior from planets that is the fake study of astrology. Don't disparage the mom though when discussing these things. Just say our Gurus have taken us out of this mess of fear and connected us directly with the source. And say we are lucky to be born in the age of science. We can look for explanations etc Keep the peace in the family. Your brother does need to speak up. But the rest of the family should not. So just let it be. We don't need broken homes or high divorce rates in the community. Sabar is a good quality. Let the mother do the hard work of nurturing the kids. Then you take over the kids mental, spiritual education. Also don't teach the kids to go against the mother. Teach the kids to humor her. Like she wants you to wear a red thread on Tuesdays, how funny. Try it kids what's the harm its useless. Panjabis are our biggest asset. They are good at making money and having kids. Most of us in the west ain't getting married or have depression or 1 kids max before we done because we have lame jobs or are not willing to work hard. Let the panjabis multiply, we can recruit kids from that during camps etc
  4. Go to a doctor and have tests done. Seems like a hormonal issue. You are not producing Testosterone is my guess . Hopefully due to a reversal cause like tumor in your pituitary gland. Or your body making to much of another hormone like prolactin.
  5. Gurbani speaks soo much on this topic. All the shabads about how i have a thousand faults and sins still you forgive me. Your kindness is more vast than my sins. How God protects anyone who dares to come to his Sharan. How countless sins eradicated from doing simran. Look at rehraas sahib. Jap tap Sanjam dharam na kamaayia... Just tell yourself that your Guru is more wiser than you're stupidity. Also look at bhai gurdaas jis vaaran. IK CHARAN SHARAN GUR EK PAINDA JAI CHAL, SATGUR KOT PAINDA AAGAI HOY LETH HAI. Also Bhagat bani: HUM SAR DEEN, DAYAL NA TUM SUR. Forgive me the mistakes in writing these pangtis Go dive into the ocean of gurbani to learn the true meaning of gratitude, self love, and forgiveness.
  6. Why can't your brother do IELTS? Why does he need to be married? Tell him to go work in Mumbai or Dubai and support himself and his mother like a man. Where is his anakh? Why are visas and women the only way out? It's sad panjabi boys who have never left panjab or seen beaches of India, want to go to canada...
  7. Ok then I agree. By the way, have you heard sufi music? The Nooran sisters were recently going viral. I think that is the folk type, appealing to the masses type of music that harmonium was meant to convey. Esp for the rural ppl. Because tanti saaj has been and still is something that requires years of practice and only available to the leisurely rich ppl. Which is great that guru sahib ji gave us such a great cultural heritage and we should cherish it. But also not stop the more easily accessible way to connect to gurbani.
  8. So did Maharaja Ranjit Singh take Pahul from Buddha dal? And what maryada did he follow? Also Guruji themselves created new instruments. Guru Arjan dev ji created a new style of tabla. So they weren't considered with authenticity. And Guru Hargobind Sahib used dilruba which wasn't used by Guru Arjan Dev Ji. I am not aware of any hukam of Panjwe patshah about using tanti saaj. Only about reading gurbani as much as possible. Aavo Sikh satguru ki pyare, gavi Sachi bani. And shabad chaunkis have been a part of the Sikh tradition where they don't use any tanti saaj to sing. Except maybe dhol. Also about dal khalsa, do you know their views on bhagauti?
  9. Depends. On future prospects. Would you be ok being rural farmer, ignorant of technology when people of other castes and religions are becoming more educated due to opportunities provided by govt to them. And you are humiliated in your own land for dreaming of independence by your neighbors. Also you can see the writing on the wall, that farming income will not be enough to sustain modern lifestyle and no prospects for marriage
  10. Can't the police use your phone to track down this person? I know phone companies can use location to detect any phone as long as it is not turned off. 1. First use samsung account or apple ID account to remotely erase everything on that phone. Or get your phone company to do it. I think if you report it lost or stolen, they can do it for you. 2. Tell the police he stole your phone and that it was worth a lot of money and has your bank account and your identity documents. And that he is threatening you and you are receiving death threats . Then I think the police have a duty to find him 3. Try not to contact that guy. But if no other options, let him know about point #1. That you have let the police know and as soon as he accesses your phone, he will be able to be tracked. Also that the police has been looking for any clues to human trafficking gangs. And so the police are secretly watching you so that if he comes near you, they will capture him to gain more info about this gang thing. 4. Try another country besides Canada. Maybe Dubai or Australia or Malaysia for work reasons. Or get married in America. Or even better get a job in India's tech centers. Like Bangalore or Mumbai or Calcutta. The fact that you have experience in the west will help. In india, salaries and lifestyle is really good. 5. Please warn other girls not to play with fire, especially those going 'bahar/West for the first time. Not to get involved with guys. It will backfire. That there are many predators in our community who will befriend you to steal your identity etc. Maybe the good karma of that will help you in God's court. 6. Be brave. Go back to Canada. And learn Street smarts. Google how to make your self safe online, how to hide your location online. (Mostly will involve not using any social media, using tor or VPN or duck go websites). Only have a flip phone with 911 on speed dial so if anyone follows you. You can call police right away. Walk with a weapon pepper spray etc. Always stay with a group of people. Lots of ppl learn to live safely in crime ridden neighborhoods. Call your parents everyday at 7pm. If they don't hear from you, tell them to report you missing to embassy and police.
  11. We are accepting the English meaning. The real meaning of Nanak name chardo Kala tere bane sarbat da bhala. Actually means In your hukam, everyone is well off. It means whatever you do is good for everyone. It's another way of saying Tera bhana Mitha laage. That with naam I am in chardi Kala and I accept that your hukam is best for everyone. So I don't need to ask for anything or try to change your hukam. Just accept it as all is well. It does not mean I ask for the welfare for all. It's the exact opposite. It means I don't need to ask or do anything as you already do the best and take care of all.
  12. She spoke bhai veer singh type of panjabi. Hosi. Etc. It is a sad letter. Both her and her son came to a bad end.
  13. There were always sects. The beauty was we could still be united and respect each other yet be different. Just look at dasam pitas time. He told bhai nand lal ji not to fight, supported bhai khaniya ji's anti-violence agenda. Had hindus and muslims and mercenaries in his army. Send most women away from the fight (including mata jis) but allowed mai bhago to fight. Contradictions and opposing views everywhere. And also had a vaishnav and meat langar at the same time. Then later there were the sikhs who lived in jangals and fought. Then city sikhs like subheg singh and shabaaz singh. Then farmers like bhai taaru singh. Village dwellers like the singhaniya in mir mannus jail. No time was there when all sikhs were shastardhari, living in jangals. In fact there were udasees, seva panthis, bedis, nirmale, tarna dal vs budha dal division, then misls, followed by sikh rajas vs akalis. Then naamdhari showed up. The arguments in the 1900s were numerous. If sachkhand is an actual place vs avastha. If meat is allowed. If padshed is allowed. Dasam granth. If dakhani onkaar is actually called Onkaar Bani (pamphlet on that by Bhagat puran singh) And dont just blame the akjs. Many other sects dont believe in brahm kavach as part of dasam etc. I think the vaaja should have an important nostalgic place in our gurudwaras. It is a symbol of how sikhi spread to the masses, how it triumphed under colonial rule. How when the british were busying destroying our culture, taking away kaide/books and shastar away from our ppl. Sikhs co-opted their instrument and spread sikhi. Like the miniature saroops of SGGS used in the world wars. Part of our history of how Sikhs kept sikhi alive in hard times. And should be revered. Puratan is important so we don't lose any of our magnificent history and culture and skills. But it shouldn't stop us from adding more skills to our repertoire. Like maharaja ranjit adding cannons to his army and learning from the European soldiers about military training. (BTW most of those Europeans were french/Italian who having lost the napoleonic wars fled east and their hatred of the English is what attracted them to ranjit singh)
  14. Yeah a family member had it shipped from UK. Yes there is a Tegh Kaur in the works. But someone was saying that we should have Sikh figures as nurses, doctors, fire fighters...but I don't know if that's a good idea. We don't want Sikh ppl to identify only with worldly success and consider some jobs as better...it just deeply cements the panjabi sociopathic capitalism...but it is hard for kids to relate to these warrior types when all Sikhs they know aren't ones. Then again superheroes aren't relatable either...
  15. Why? I used to think most amritdharis are from there.
  16. Have you heard of the organization atam pargas? They are trying to bring back the preclinical method of education back based on Leitnwrs work. Also I would say Leitner is right. My Nani can read panjabi because she learned at the local gurdwara. They would use sticks to right oora aira in the dirt when learning. So even women were allowed to learn before 1947. And another Bibi learned at a church. But she quit to make money from her embroidery on the Pakistan side of panjab. So I would say even the most rural and poor people were literate.
  17. Wasn't it Guru Nanak Dev ji himself who changed doing lavan around havan to around ptothi sahib? I think it's mentioned in janam sakhis maybe? Also lots of our ancestors were not strictly Sikhs so we shouldn't go by what they did. They just followed the local Brahmans and what their ancestors had done. And did not want to change to the new way of sikhi. Any even if the modern anand karaj is not puratan, is there any reason to go back? The modern anand karaj was made during 1900s when the Sikhs were going thru a literary revolution similar to Europe's great enlightenment when lots of lost and hidden manuscripts were brought to light and the Sikhs had khalsa diwaans where Sikhs reached a consensus on maryada ardaas etc. Why would you want to bring back practices that tie us closer to Hindus or sonatas dharam? Then what's the use of sikhi? We might as well become sanatan if we think there's nothing wrong with sanantan dharam. And all the updates and changes the Gurus and Sikhs did were not needed.
  18. I think Jewish ppl are 1000 years ahead of us in history. Sikhs are only at the part where Jewish tribes were being exiled from Isreal at the time of the Egyptian empire. If we want to continue following their path and finally have success (ie Khalistan) then we have to do what they did: keep a distinct identity, a growing population, and a millennial long strategy of enmeshing ourselves into powerful positions in economic and scie tific centers of those countries we immigrated to. Although, I don't really buy the Jewish ppl are the mastermind behind the whole world economics etc that others above believe. I think if ppl remain smart and alert to their surroundings, and get rich enough without falling prey to vices, most ppl can have similar success to Jewish ppl. I remember reading the life of the father of Zionism. He was an intellectual growing up in 1900s Europewho supported communism like any other educated person in the 1900s. (Like most educated ppl support liberalism/social justice now esp sikhs) Life was good until the depression hit, and anti-semitism swept up Europe. Then like any other person, he felt hurt and stated we need our own country where we aren't pushed out after 100 years at the whims of governments and he thought the best place for this country was their origin: Isreal. Ofc it was just an idea but it spread in jews circles (yes they always had a religious idea of Iimportance of isreal before but it had never been articulated so clearly for political wellbeing of jews). And when the jews had the chance, they made that idea a reality. Yes there were Jewish families bank rolling kings and wars. But that'slike the Indian govt getting paranoid because the Canadian minister of defense is a Sikh. Has nothing to do with Sikh interests or khalistan. Currently there might be jews among the elite monopolies controlling the world. But the fact of monopolies is more dangerous than them being jews..
  19. The concept of being sehajdhari and nanakpanthi was big. Religion back in the day was more about allegiance than following it to the letter. Amrit shako, kes rakho wasn't a big rally cry. Think about it a century before ranjit singh, it would be ridiculous to begging ppl to take amrit when they could be killed tortured for it. It was imperative that you do it of your own free will. And because ranjit Singh was from a Sikh family, maybe that was enough to be Sikh.
  20. Wow. You've grown up! I would never have expected such a deep insight esp a controversial one from you. I had pegged you as a really black and white, this is the one correct way poster. The credit goes to @dallysingh101 and Sikh awareness forum ofc. Showcasing of the puritan ithihaas thru olden granths, historical/contemporary accounts was a major wake up call to Sikhs. Ofc it might also be due to nihangs. Their bringing back all the things we had successfully repressed...time will tell if it's a good thing..
  21. While you are right, you are also too idealistic. Economic reasons will always be the most important. A starving person or even a person at poverty level just surviving cannot enact any change or even any respect, neither from their own community nor from another community. So yes being a soldier was for economic reasons. But it made sense. Maharaja ranjit had employed a huge number of Sikhs as soldiers. Once British ppl took over, all of these soldiers' were let go after confistication of their weapons including kirpaans. Some of these soldiers turned into daaku(bandits) rather than give up weapons. But most were turned loose. What were they supposed to do? You would probably say organize into their own army but remember they had no weapons and it was outlawed to have any. Or you would say industrialize and learn new skills. If they did that, first they would be taking jobs of people of other castes and have to compete with them. Secondly, when one is thirsty, it is already too late to dig a well. Thirdly like one of the posters said before, they had many brothers so they were expendable. If they went home and tamely farmed, they would decrease land ownership (typical lot of second sons). So they did what they were best at: join army. It made financial, tactical sense. Also some used army to travel to other countries and settle their or join factories. And their offspring fared better. So they did make the smart decisions. Which we are still copying to this day, moving to the west. Ofc you would want them to have carved a economically independent homeland in that time. But be realistic. Even with all our knowledge and know how, who is willing to go back to panjab? We have a chance to save it before it js engulfed by gujjars, Christians and immigrants from UP? We have a chance to fix the teaching of sikhi and make a difference there in terms of economics more than we can in the west. Once panjab becomes the Palestine of Sikhs, completely engulfed and settled by non Sikhs. When Sikh diaspora need a homeland to return to in 100 or 150 years, in hindsight it will be easy to blame our generation. But in reality, after losing a war to indian government, what choice did our generation have? Even in 1984, the anandpur sahib resolution had economic reasons in it. And the recent farmer protests were so well attended because of economic reasons. No other panthic protest had garnered so much support. From bargarhi to protests against beadbi to sarbat khalsa. All was beat by farmer protests. Economics moves the world. And to expect our ancestors who had just lost a war and seen their enemies who collaborated with the British ( like dogras) in power over them, to be better than we are now is just idealism. I think joining any army is a just occupation. As long as you yourself refuse to participate in any rape or pillage. Working for Apple and Nike who support sweat shops etc is also exploitation of the poor. It's a job. Also it keeps the Sikh youth militarily ready. Now look at the state of Sikh youth. In 1984, sant ji needed the help of subheg singh, a military trained guy. The ghadar party singhs tried to recruit faujis in British army because they had the arms and fighting know how. As long as we train loyalty to panth first. A Sikh should do almost any job. Like satwant singh/Beant singh and the faujis during 1984 who left their posts to try to join akal takhat. As long as loyalty to panth is there, a Sikh will leave their job when it becomes anti panthic or oppressive. So it's not the job or where they fight that matters. Even in modern Indian history, Sikhs were employed by Indian govt to put down rebellions in sri Lanka and the fight between east and west Pakistan. Sikhs still acted honorably. Sikhs protected the women who were being raped by the east Pakistani army. And in sri Lanka, the Sikh officer got a phone call to assassinate the peaceful leader of the communist rebellion. Sikh army officer did not act on it. So in any occupation. You can be honorable. Yes it's terrible about the 1947 genocide. Where were the Sikh soldiers at that time? WwII had already ended?
  22. In your answer, u only mentioned what people think i.e. coworkers/boss or other Sikhs. But for Sikhs, it's most important what the Guru says. Yes what you mention is important. At least Sikhs should respect Sikhs. But a Sikh quickly has a downfall if he/she forgets to keep focus on guru and sikhi. Other people will always try to belittle those who try to be better or try to be good. Even the Gurus own brothers tried to hurt them. Also you can tell.the moneh, I keep my hair cuz the Guru says to. Not to be a good or better human. And my hair shows I put sikhi first esp before fashion unlike you guys.
  23. I was referring to Sikh extremism. Even across the pond we hear of the infighting, the different sects, like Niddar Singh, the chatke being done by the nihangs. Any sect in sikhi has a hard-core following in the UK, and has no tolerance for any other. They are able to whip up youngsters to follow them and to be intolerant towards others. Also the incident you were referring to is not the only one. There was one about a couple claiming to be Mai bhago etc and punishing people. So it's important all Sikhs learn not to take the law and punishments into their own hands. This gives an opportunity for fringe elements in the panth to start their own cult. We need to emphasize the panthic way. And not to have any <banned word filter activated> and Harry create their own interpretation and implementation of sikhi.
  24. As a Sikh, u have no authority to punish anyone. Unless ur part of the panj pyare and someone comes to you to confess or get help. There have been cases esp in that extremist haven UK, where individual Sikhs have taken the law into their own hands and thought they had the authority to punish other Sikhs. Some even got together 5 of there own gang and deemed themselves panj pyare and beat up a person for a transgression. Stop this nonsense. Stop trying to bring back puratan sikhi and stop trying to be arbitrators. Just go be pesh at an amrit sinchaar and get tankhaah of 21 japji sahib or something. If it's too tame of a punishment, do simran 24 hours if u have to. There's no call to give physical punishments.
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