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  1. The question I need you to answer is why would you need to open a thread based upon massaging your own ego regarding how far up the ladder you view yourself in the Class system. The reason why I ask this is because surely know this is a Sikh Forum which promotes Sikh values, Panthic Ekta and hopefully brings people closer to Sikhi. So why would you brag about your own social status in a Western system, that does the complete opposite by dividing people and makes them egotistical in the process?
  2. I did so deliberately! Hardship can fall upon anyone, it’s not exclusive to any of the man made classes, I don’t view this as people who need to be labeled or viewed upon as ‘Low’. I refuse to use those words to describe peoples individual circumstances that have led them to seek benefits, being unemployed or ending up on streets. This can happen to anyone at any given time. I don’t associate myself with Hindu caste system or the Western class system. I don’t judge people by their possessions or their ability to articulate their words and I certainly do not belittle people based on these. If you identify yourself as a Sikh then you must distance yourself away from class system as well as the caste system. You should incorporate all the best traits of these classes and discard the worst in order to be the best you can and most importantly view everyone as equal.
  3. Excellent post. Brilliantly put together! My personal view based upon my own interactions with people who live up to these man made classes are as follows: Upper Class - People born into a system that generally favours them in all walks of life. They do appreciate people who work hard and generally enjoy breaking free once in while to let off some steam to escape the pressures which they have been groomed for. Their worst traits are generally ingrained into them as they have very little interaction outside their own class. Money isn’t really an issue and neither is the need to flash it with these people. Middle Class - People trying so hard to please the upper class for acceptance. These people mould into this class over time, generally as the wealth increases. They distance themselves from their beginnings and start to sound very different. They think very carefully before stringing a sentence together, just to insure it is made up of big words and more of them to explain what could be said in just a few. Not much different from Politicians really. Every purchase these people make is based upon what the Joneses are doing and for how they are perceived in society. They are not generally rich but have disposable incomes which allows them to mimic the upper classes. They are probably the most judgemental and possess the worst traits out of all the classes. Working Class - People of the soil who are generally ‘what you see is what you get’. Not much mystery with these people, blunt and completely in touch with the ground. These people can also be the most charitable as well as they understand struggle. They don’t sound very eloquent but that is not a measure of intelligence, so don’t be fooled by this.
  4. We will always be indebted to the Seva that Bhai Surinder Singh Sodhi did for us during the Dharam Yudh Morcha. His Star will always shine and his name will a have a special place when Khalsa Raj will be established in Punjab!
  5. The lady who fired the first shot into Bhai Sodhi ran to talk to Sant Ji and presented a fabricated story to the lead up to the murder of Bhai Sodhi. The Singhs in the Jatha interrogated the women until she confessed the entire plan and was killed and her body was disposed of on the highway to send out a message. Shinda the man who fired the remainder of the rounds into Bhai Sodhi, by now had escaped and was making his way to leave Amritsar via a vehicle. A board was placed outside Mehta Chowk Gurdwara with message of ‘within 24 hours the murderers of Bhai Sodhi should be brought to justice’. General Labh Singh along with fellow Jatha Singhs disguised themselves as Punjab Police Officers and set up road blocks on the main routes leading out of Amritsar. Shindas car approached the road block and he sighed in relief on seeing Police Officers. He asked for assistance with a safe passage to Delhi and he bragged about what he had just done to Bhai Sodhi. He asked the Police Officers of which department they were from? To which General Labh Singh replied ‘We belong to Secret Force which does not get paid and does not answer to any Worldly Officials’. Shinda laughed and said ‘Stop joking around with me, there is no such Force that you have stated!’ General Labh Singh replied ‘There is such a Force and it is the Force that works for ‘Akaal Purkh!’ General Labh Singh picked up 3ft Kirpan and asked Shinda of how many bullets he had fired into Bhai Sodhi and began to cut Shinda limb by limb and threw his body parts into the road whilst he was still alive. This all happened on busy public highway in full view of the public. This was the fate of the cowards that murdered Bhai Surinder Singh Sodhi!
  6. I stand by my view regarding Master Tara Singh! Read ‘Betrayal of the Sikh Nation’ by author Ram Singh. This view is not just something that came about post Partition. I remember reading somewhere, the same view was held with many prominent Sikhs of the time where they questioned Master Tara Singhs authenticity of even being a Sikh by challenging him to eat ‘Beef’ to prove he was not a Hindu. He declined to eat it.
  7. He was a stooge! Hindu convert to Sikhi who was planted to make sure the demand for a Sikh country was quickly abandoned once the British dismissed it as not practical. He was also one the figures who turned away Dr Ambedkars call for Dalits to convert to Sikhi, before he eventually decided to move towards Buddhism. These could be seen as mistakes by the Sikhs but many including me view them as deliberate attempts to weaken Sikhs.
  8. They see the teachings of our Gurus as the biggest threat to their corrupt oppressive Western way of life. From the early days when the British arrived in Hind they were plotting on how they would dismantle the Sikh Empire. When they annexed the Sikh Kingdom they were hell bent on destroying our religious institutions. In 1947 they deliberately partitioned the Punjab and made sure the Sikh were trapped as weakened minorities in the newly formed India and Pakistan. In 1984 the British Government provided assistance to India to destroy the will of Sikhs by attacking the Akal Takht and eliminating our greatest leadership since the days of the Sikh Empire. We are the most progressive community of the new Immigrants in Britain but we have the least amount of Political clout and are completely sidelined by all the major Political parties. The question is why are we treated in this way, especially since we have done no wrong. The answer to this is that we possess the ‘Truth’, the guidance of our Guru which can shape the true ‘New World Order’, which is fair for all is the key to liberation from everything the West stands for!
  9. What else is expected from this level of Besharampuna! I mean you have age restrictions together with bouncers keeping an eye on people getting too tipsy in nightclubs, but this doesn’t apply to Punjabi wedding receptions. Alcohol flows freely, children are welcome, music is blasted, drugs are taken in toilets, under aged drinking takes place and the dance floor resembles a Nightclub that is modelled on the ‘Blue Oyster Club’. Tacky to the next level!
  10. The vast majority of the world eats a ‘meat’ based diet and that goes for the majority of faiths too. Their actions are a far contrast to what ‘Lions’ do, more in line with ‘dog’s really. Diet has nothing to do with being like ‘Lions and Hawks’.
  11. We can preserve and make copies of the scripture, but we are losing the battle with cloning our people from the past. For now 35 years have passed and we still have not been able to identify a leader who can steer us towards our destination.
  12. It all starts to make sense now with the destruction of Bhagat Ravi Das Mandhir, Gyan Godhri and Kar Seva Babeh destroying historical buildings etc. Also note that whilst the destruction of minority historical religious places is being carried out, there has not been any construction of Hindu Mandirs. This is something you would have expected on top of the agenda for an Hindu Fundamentalist organisation.
  13. Well noted! During the 80’s Indira Ghandi pushed for depopulation of India via mass forced sterilisations in camps on the streets. This could be seen as a testing phase for things to come in the future.
  14. At one point the Mafia were controlling Bollywood and Bal Thakre also had a lot of influence in the Industry. Recent decisions taken by Film and Arts associations over banning Artists such as Mika Singh from working in Bollywood, beacuse doing performances in Pakistan suggest that BJP/RSS are controlling the Industry.
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