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  1. 2 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

    I remember a video went viral in 2010 or something in which an angry Dalit Buddhist/Sikh lady was seen giving angry speech in a funny punjabi accent, complaining about how Sikhism was hijacked by the same baahmanwaad that it aimed to eradicate. and how Sikhism was not really separate ideologically from Buddhism. She was perhaps a neo-buddhist and Ambedkar follower named Kamlesh Ahir.

    Kamlesh Ahir's speech was mostly about woes of so-called low castes being denied active participation in indian religions. And how sikh gurus tried to revive Buddhas ideals of casteless society equal for all, but that Sikhism was failed by Sikhs themselves. I agree with her only partly!

    In this video, the same lady (in funny frantic voice) is heard complaining about how Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar wanted to convert to sikhi along with his 5 million followers but was let down by Jatt-dominated Akalis who feared losing control of harmandar sahib. So as a result Ambedkar ji had to convert to Buddhism along with his followers and they also burnt manusmriti , a hindu text which is still celebrated by buddhists in india as "manusmriti dahan diwas". The lady also complained about how Sikhs don't want chamaars, Ravidasias , Valmiks and other downtrodden along with them , and as a consequent Sikhi is not really spread . 

    (Khalsa college of mumbai of which I myself am an alumni is a really cool college founded by Babasaheb Ambedkar himself). So I will give her credit.

    Anyways, coming to point , Is Sikhi really totally dominated by Jatts , esp when it comes to filling top clergical and administrative posts in SGPC gurudwaras ??

    If so , its a really shame for our panth. We need to introspect deeply. We feel delighted at sight of white/black sikhs , then why we should feel hesitation to accept downtrodden low-castes of india who will benefit from sikhi the most.

     

    You can hear her here (again I don't agree with her at times , and she sound really bullsshit sometimes, but she does make a point about casteism in sikhi) : 

     

    Caste in Punjab is an issue because of the Brahmin Elite that controls all institutions of India.  Taking ownership of a 'Brahmin' problem detracts the attention from the real culprits and architects of this menace.

    We as Sikhs do not believe, practice or promote this 'Brahminical' system of apartheid.  However as the laws and and constitution of India refuse to outlaw or make these practises a criminal offence, the Punjab is always going to affected by this.  For example the reservation posts for 'scheduled casts' causes resentment amongst the so called higher casts who may well be poorer in some cases and the 'scheduled cast' status is something lower casts are more than happy to embrace for certain benefits. 
    A better system would be a 'means' based benefits system which would be there for anyone who is financially disadvantaged.  This could not happen in 'India' as this would threaten the grip 'Brahmins' have over society.
    The only way cast discrimination can be eradicated from Sikh institutions and the mindset of so called Sikhs is to bind them by law, provide religious education and give them a fair society which benefits all.  Neither of these are allowed to flourish in India controlled Punjab.
     
    So in short if you want to fix the problems for Sikhs in Punjab then 'Independence' is the only way we can truly create a society which is governed by the teachings 'Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj'.  Bound by constitution and implemented through law.
  2. Pingalwara (Amritsar) founded by the late Bhagat Puran Singh.  Although not just an orphanage but also a shelter for the vulnerable and elderly.  Truly amazing place and the story and forward vision of Bhagat Puran Singh is worth reading up on before visiting. 

  3. 1 hour ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

    instead of waiting for this guy or anyone else to do suri, why don't you look to yourself? Thats the problem I am trying to highlight, we always quick to cuss others, but yet noone does anything themself LOL

    I think the best outcome from this event is that an enemy of Panth has been taken out wether it's for a Sikh cause, monetary benefit or personal grievance.  We should celebrate this regardless of the motive just as we celebrate the Tamil Bibis sacrifice when taking out Rajiv Gandhi.  Either way good riddance to the Khaki Nikkar wearing piece of trash.

  4. Looking at the present narrative of Sikhs worldwide we have peaceful image.  We also have Sikhs making waves waves in politics in western governments and also have a young charismatic leader Jagmeet Singh.  

    We need to be mindful of the propaganda machine which is being unleashed by GOI and their agents to tarnish the Sikhs.  We might see more false flag attacks like these to further damage our image to derail our goals.

     

  5. On 16/10/2017 at 6:38 PM, Premi5 said:

    My understanding is fat is burned with whole body exercises. So anyone who wants a six pack etc should be doing whole body exercises to lose the fat

    To get your abs to show you need to have a body fat percentage around the 12% mark.  The way to do it is simple science..consume less calories than you burn.  And to aid fat loss fast do High Interval Training wether it's running, skipping, spinning, kettbells, resistance training etc.  

    For example sprint for 1 minute during the High intensity interval and straight after do 1 minute jog during your active rest phase.  Repeat for 10 rounds and watch the fat strip off you and you will develop a strong heart in the process.

     

  6. This kind of challenge will allow this boy to develop the grit needed to work out of his comfort zone and take his body beyond the fatigue barriers that one usually falls short at.  There was a young child in Amritsar who took on this challenge as a child who went on to become a wrestler by the  name of 'Gama Pehlvan' the worlds greatest and only undefeated wrestler in the history of the sport.  

    This type of training will do no harm to this  kids body as long as he only performs this once or twice a year.  The rest of the year he can do smaller repetitions to develop endurance.  These type of challenges will develop a strong mind and body.

    Of course it would be safer and less taxing for his health to wear bangles and and watch Indian dramas but Singhs are Lions not sheep.

  7. Watch the video and read the verses

     

    "I Get Out"

    The song that speaks of how false this world we inhabit is and how maya has crept into every walk in society.  We as the 'Khalsa' have the antidote to this disease but we are the ones that are most affected by it.  From the management of our religious and political institutions and down to the way we live our own individual lives, we embrace 'Maya' and forget the very purpose we are on this earth for.  If we can be brave enough to 'get out' then we would surely be in position to achieve our goals as community.
     
    'Maya' is the very reason we are struggling to win this war against a system that is designed to suppress our souls and imprison our minds.  For all those people within our own community who continue to let us down, we can bet that 'Maya' is the enchantress that is used to capture their souls.
     
    For the ones that truly liberated themselves and captured our hearts and souls throughout the history of the world.  One thing they shared in common, they did not allow 'Maya' to touch them.  Martin Luther King, Che Guevara, Malcom X, Black Panthers, Bhagat Singh, Muhammad Ali, Lauren Hill, Kartar Singh Saraba, Tupac Shakur,  Shaheeds of 1984 and countless revolutionaries have led the way but are we brave enough to 'Get Out'.
     
    Is it the forces that work against us or is it our own weakness and desire for 'Maya' that stops us from achieving our collective goals?  How do we defeat this, living in a world that is governed by a system that celebrates and worships 'Maya' (Capitalism).  

     

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  8. 1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

    your last line answers it all. We carry the emblem of our faith on our heads at all times in public. 

    There's a reason why one of the takhats is Kesgarh . Our hair (and by extension, our turban) is the fort of our guru, his emblem. 

    So its entirely our responsibility to carry its positive image in this world. 

    Why can't we ourselves make our movies ? like how our ppl made Chaar sahibzaade etc ?

    Why most fashion icons are men who either shave or trim and keep a dude hairstyle ? like why not a turbaned guy sporting full beard ? make it common in clothe ads on billboards , etc . 

    But even in punjab, clean shaven dude is the icon of "male" , in movie industry. 

    To understand the reasons for your frustration you must understand that there is no platform in India which allows for a full Gursikh to make moves in modelling or the movie industry.  The bigwigs simply do no want to see Sikhs in any positive light.  Harry Baweja was discouraged at every step from making the Chaar Sahibzade movie by all the producers he pitched his project to.  He eventually ended up with Ponty Chadda who agreed to finance the movie out of his respect for the Sikh faith.  Even the likes of the late Jagjit Singh (Gazal Singer) was mocked for supporting the Turban and full Beard when he first arrived at the doors of the producers in Bombay.  I mean this guy was just voice and they still couldn't tolerate his appearance.

    There are powers who work tirelessly to discredit and demoralise Sikhs but I do understand that the Sikhs in Punjab do have to answer for their own actions.  But this all goes back to the silent assault on the Sikh which leaves him with a extremely low self esteem.

     

  9. 37 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

    not entirely true. I know many indians who look up to sikhs. 

    Also there're movies showing sikhs as successful people . Look "Rocket singh - salesman of the year". 

    But I do understand your sentiment. 

    You missed my point completely.  The point was not about a handful individual Indians who are well informed or have the capability to forge their own opinions about Sikhs from their own independent research.  My point is that the people in power in India have an agenda to defame Sikhs and feed their false narrative to the majority.  You could see in the video that there was one guy who was well informed about Sikhs but all the others had been drip fed a negative viewpoint of Sikhs.  

    The same tactics have been seen in Pakistan with their attitude towards Pathans and Bangladeshis and the tactic has been seen in England against the Irish.  

    Also I have seen 'Rocket Singh' and the character falls in line with the ideal secular Indian Sikh that is acceptable to the Indian state.  The main character in the movie could have been any Ramu, John or Abdul but he was portrayed as a turbaned Indian who trims his beard, womanises and drinks alcohol.  Hardly a positive Sikh but more a reality of majority Punjabis who identify themselves as Sikhs.

  10. On 07/08/2017 at 4:17 AM, singh598 said:

     

    These kind of opinions are formed from a slow exposure of anti-Sikh propaganda.  

    To make any Bollywood movies depicting a Sardar they must fall into 1 of 3 boxes. 

    1. Make the Sardar into a loud comical  clown that loves to drink alcohol, eat chicken and dance at the sound of dhol beat.  He has to wear comical shiny turban and support a comical beard and be of very low intellect.

    2. The Sardar has to be a ultra aggressive hero who is always ready to fight in unbelievable scenarios.  This is usually in war film where his national pride is above his faith.

    3. The Sardar is a naive terrorist misled by Pakistan and usually supports a full beard with orange gol dastaar.  Usually any movies depicting 1984.

    All of these categories are designed either to make a Sikh to have extremely low self esteem and cut his hair and fade away into the masses or to channel his natural Sikh instincts of being a warrior to fight for Indian national pride and become ultra patriotic.

    As you can see none of the above promote a Sikh in India to promote his own distinct identity or rich history.  This is why any Bollywood movies depicting Sikh History or Sikhs in a true light are never passed by the Indian sensor board or received positively. (Note the movie Black Prince was not promoted by any major Punjabi celebrity or Punjabi singers in India).

    The same goes for Punjabi music as all the big producers are Hindus in India.  The young Sikh singers and song writers are forced into making material which promote drugs, gang culture and promiscuous behaviour.  This is because the Punjabi music industry is the only music Industry in India where the Singer has to record and finance his own material and present it to a producer only to be told yes or no if the producer will promote the tape.  They are at the mercy of the producer who usually has other motives to once again demoralise the Sikhs.

    The media I think we are all aware of only show Sikhs as Terrorists.

    So in short to be a Sikh in India you either have to be a 'Clown', 'Indian Patriot', or a 'Terroist'.There is no other opinion of Sikhs that can exist in India. 

     

      

     

  11. 3 hours ago, veer83 said:

    Do you really think the Indian government would comply to a referendum which breaks up India ?

    I already stated that the referendum has no legal biding on the government of India.  It will however if successfull pave the way forward to United Nations to express the will of Sikhs.  Also remember this is global referendum which will be conducted online so there isn't really anything the government India can do about this.  

    Believe me the government of India is trembling as this is something that will put the spotlight on India in the international community.

    Remember this will also probably trigger Kashmir and other states to follow similar steps.

     

     

     

  12. Steps are already being taken to move towards a Sikh homeland.  2020 referendum is going to happen.  All we need for now is the Sikhs in Punjab to tick yes box in 2020.  The rest of the problems such as negative Punjabi  culture, cast issues, substance abuse and female infantacide can all be taken care of once we are in the driving seat.  The problem lies in actually selling the referendum to the Punjabi Sikhs.  It's only 3 years away and the last thing you want is for it to pass everybody by because it wasn't marketed and sold to them effectively.  

    I also know that the referendum will have no legal binding on India but it will pave the way forward for phase 2 and will open up debate if it's successful.  This for now is all we have and all we as individuals can do is help with spreading awareness.

  13. 1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

    with the active shiv-sena and right-wingers in punjab, best of luck getting that done.

    BTW, we sikhs first need to accept our own before we go to the neighbor's backyard. Why did ravidasias split ? why we still don't accept mazhabis ? why we still marry in "caste" ?

    honestly, we the present day sikhs are a disgrace to our ancestor and gurus 

    All of the above problems you mention are not Sikh problems.  In fact they are problems you inherit from the host nation- Hindu problems.  When you live in land which is governed with laws to protect and promote Brahmin beliefs this naturally rubs off on the minority communities which live in the land.  The same happens to migrants who live in the west only that secular hedonism rubs off on them . 

    Now if we were to just imagine if the Punjab was governed by Sikhs and the laws in place promote and protect Sikh culture all the above problems disappear.  It really bothers me when Sikhs start to finger point and take ownership to cast discrimination when we all know that this problem is nothing to do with us.

    Lastly as far as migration goes if Sikhs back in Punjab are flocking to other countries maybe they are unhappy with their lives back home.  They have plenty of reason to be.  

  14. The one thing that baffles me is how on earth did the Sikhs back in Punjab sign up to fight for the British during their campaigns in India after such a short period of time that had elapsed.  Also why did they volunteer in masses to serve in the WW1 and WW2 to help the British again.  The memories of annexation should still have been fresh in their minds. 

    Also I find hard to digest this romanticised Anglo Sikh relationship of loyal Sikhs and a beautiful friendship nonsense that we are still fed today.

    Sometiing tells me the British still fear Sikhs to this day and view us as a threat as to why they still continue to stab us in the backs (1947, 1984 etc).  

    Fast forward the events to the present day we are standing exactly where Duleep Singh and the Sikhs in Punjab were after the annexation.  We are still facing the same struggle for independence.  

    I think we really need to be more vocal about the British betrayal and stop sucking up to these cunning sweet faced devils.  Going by our history can never and should not trust the British.

     

  15. 3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

    Was Sartaaj's acting any good? He's a brilliant lyricist and singer, but seems a bit subdued in personality. Did he light up the screen? 

     

    I think I might have adhd (lol!) I don't know if I could sit through a slow film. 

    Sartaj was the Duleep Singh for 2 hours.  I had my reservations and felt it was wrong to portray such an important event in Sikh history with a well known celebrity as he would overshadow such an important figure in history.  But believe me you forget who is actually playing the role.  He also sings a song in the backdrop of the movie 'dardan wala desh' it cuts you in two.  

    Don't worry about the slow pace as it's been done this way on purpose and you will understand this when you later reflect on the movie.

     

  16. 15 hours ago, simran345 said:

    Just got back from watching The Black Prince - Punjabi version. Originally went to watch the English version, but was totally sold out on getting there. So decided to watch the Punjabi version and we did, as connected to it easily, has subtitles in English too. English version was probably good too, as Tigerforce1 paji mentioned. 

    It was superb, amazing, brilliant movie. Probably the best directed with Punjabi actor as main role I've ever seen. All the actors were great. It's not like the usual Punjabi or Bollywood movie. Was emotional and wish it was longer. 

    Definetley a must to see, that's all I'm saying as I don't want to tell too much for those who still have to see it.  Satinder Sartaj was superb, they couldn't have chosen a better actor than him.

    It's definitely worth seeing. 

    I'm glad the movie lived up to your expectations penji.  I'll probably take my parents to watch the Punjabi version.

    I couldn't fault the movie either.  The initial slow pace and the subdued character of Duleep Singh gave the viewer a real feel of emptiness and lack of purpose in his early life.  Whilst watching the start of the movie I felt that Sartaj may have been deliberately given limited dialogue because of the lack of acting experience but as the movie progressed and Duleep Singh became aware his faith and heritage you could see the confidence and awakening in his character.  This is what really impressed me about Sartaj because he totally had me fooled from the first impressions.  

    I don't understand the negative reviews from Hindustan Times as I truly have not seen any Bollywood production that has approached any historical chapter with the sensitivity and serious approach and pulled it off in it's delivery.

     I also had no idea that the budget was only 5 million as that kind of money in movie can be blown on just one set but I never felt that th movie was low budget as it ticked all the boxes such as script, dialogue, music, cinematography, costume, locations and big names personalities.

     I definitely didn't feel short changed and most importantly for me the movie has awoken something inside of me and has given me feel of being alone, betrayed and homeless.  We possess everything yet have nothing.

     

     

     

     

  17. 1 hour ago, simran345 said:

    Probably because there's no lallu panjoo in the movie and today's society is influenced a lot by the singers and rubbish storylines. 

    The movie does have a big name in 'Sartaj' but yes it definitely does not cater for the lalloo panjoo crew.  I just dont get how even UK born panjabis who are well up for other period dramas and other mainstream western movies but are not interested in watching a film which has been directed to specifically target their tastes and something that is relevant to their own history. 

    Anyways I hope the ticket sales start to increase over the next few weeks as I would love to see the team behind this movie to work on similar projects in the future.

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