Sherdil

Alcohol is a natural by-product of anaerobic fermentation. Chances are pretty good that you are consuming some alcohol when you eat dhaee (yogurt). Sikhs are not supposed to drink alcohol because it alters your state of mind, and once again leaves no room in your consciousness for God. Alcohol is not toxic in itself, but too much alcohol is. Too much vitamin A can also be toxic, but it is not inherently a toxic substance.

We are animals and we did evolve...not from other species, but from other forms of our own species. This taught to school-age children. It is an accepted belief held by the worldwide scientific community.

I am dumb...please guide me. How did this meat eating creep into the human diet? Why are our bodies able to break down meat into amino acid constituents and glucose to provide energy for our bodily functions? Why are herbivores (vegetarian animals) not able to do this?

Prove you wrong, in regards to your statement that consumption of meat is an obstacle in the path to God. To prove something, you need proof, i.e. evidence. What evidence do you want me to provide in regards to a path to God? The subject itself requires faith and logic, not evidence. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Thus, you can't prove me wrong either. I will offer this to you: If humans are the highest form of incarnation, then at some point we were incarnated as an animal that ate meat. How was that meat eating animal able to move up the hierarchy and eventually attain this human form?

I like my meat well done, so I don't think I will be trying to eat live animals any time soon. Lol. Mainu nah puch. Avdeh dentist nu puch lae, "Why do we have canine teeth?" In the animal kingdom, the only animals that have canine teeth are those that eat flesh.

Killing anything in the name of God is not a righteous action. This is what Kabir ji has said, and this is what I believe. This is what Akal Takht has decreed as well. That is why Halaal and Kosher are prohibited for Sikhs. The woman in the video quoted the line by Guru Nanak, where he tells us that plants and animals came from water. Thus, the meat that you forsake and the plants that you eat are one in the same. Preoccupation with lust (kaam) fills your head with such thoughts. There is no room in your mind for God. Greed comes from Haumai. You are only concerned with your own needs. Gurbani says you cannot understand God's Hukam if you have haumai. By eating flesh, how is the mind polluted?

You are referring to the lines by Bhagat Kabir. He was criticizing the practice of Halaal meat preparation. They slit the animal's throat and slowly let it bleed to death, while they recite a prayer from the Quran. That is why he asks " Would you slit your own throat, to have meat with your bread?" Killing in the name of God is never a righteous action. If it was, then all butchers would be mahapurakhs, as Kabir ji has said. Can you please provide that hukamnamma? I have never come across it. As far as I know, Akal Takht does not prohibit meat eating. They only prohibit halaal meat (and kosher meat defacto).

Han ji, I was speaking from a Sikh point of view. We don't cut our hair because god has given it as a gift to all humans. With the same logic, God has made humans meat eaters. We have canine teeth, meant for tearing flesh. I am adding points from a scientific background, in addition to the points from Gurbani stated by the woman in the video. Why do we have to bring Hindu deities into a discussion about meat eating? Why don't we read Guru Granth Sahib, instead of the Hindu scripture Katha Upanishad? It doesn't make sense to look towards Hindu scriptures for guidance, and then turn around and say that we are not Hindus.

She gave a good explanation. I wonder why all of these veg vs non-veg threads are started by veg people? Human are omnivores. We evolved to eat plants and animals. This is how God has made us.

You are correct. Lack of intrinsic factor prevents Vit. B-12 from being absorbed in the ileum.My argument is still that meat is the best source of vitamins and nutrients. You can combine various non-meat food products to attain the same nutritional value as meat, but most people (especially in our community) do not have the savvy to make such conscious decisions when choosing what to eat. Thus, when the average person forgoes meat he may not know that he needs to eat more beans and cereals, and drink more milk. I used the example of granthis, because that is what I have been told by physicians who deal with patients from our community. I guess it is down to personal experience, and what kinds of people you come across. On the flipside, eating too much meat can lead to complications as well. Such as, gout and high cholesterol (in people who don't exercise). It is best to maintain a balance between all food groups. Bhul chuk maaf

I suppose dhaeen and milk would have Vitamin B-12. Perhaps not enough as the fortified cereals? I had a professor that was a strict vegetarian (Hindu), and he had to take weekly Vit B -12 shots. Maybe some people are more genetically predisposed than others.

@ChuckSinghNorris You are well educated in alternate food sources to attain the vitamins normally found in meat. That's fantastic. Unfortunately, many members of our community are not as enlightened. Granthis are the most common patients that come in for B-12 injections. They don't have access to fortified cereals and such. More education is needed to live a healthy vegetarian lifestyle, but it definitely can be done. @panthicunity My cholesterol has never been high in my life (knock on wood) because I exercise regularly. You are right though. The vegan diet can significantly lower one's LDL and weight. I think a month long cycle is good enough to cleanse people. It is hard to maintain, as you have to eat a lot more to make up for the lack of calories in each meal. If you can maintain it for longer, then you have strong will power. Big ups to you.

Sorry, I am not aware of any shabad recited before a meal. Can you explain please?

I think there is much confusion between love and kaam. There is nothing wrong in singing love songs. There is love poetry in our Guru Granth Sahib. We should refrain from singing dirty lyrics. I would provide an example, but it is not appropriate.

You have misinterpreted. Guru sahib is saying that those who sing hymns without having God in their heart are wasting their time. So even if you sang a song in praise of God, it would be false if it doesn't come from your heart. The key line that you have quoted is this: The consciousness is lured by Maya; they are just reciting mechanically.

People who don't eat meat need to get essential vitamins from elsewhere. That may be fortified cereals, pills, etc. There is no substitute for a well balanced diet, consisting of all the food groups, and exercise.

How do you think the goat heads were severed during the first Amrit sanchaar?

Yeah I guess you are right. We have become the former.

Sikh soldiers have been deployed all over the world. The British used them in China. The Chinese were so afraid of the Singhs, that the Sikh soldiers didn't even need to carry guns.

It's normal. It happens to everyone. Even to people who don't meditate. Don't read too much into it.

^^^^ Lol. Idk how he does it. I guess it's part of the trance. When you lose your equilibrium, you feel transported. Whirling dervishes?

Maybe do like Pappu Sain and his crew.

If they are leaving, then maybe you should call them into your gurdwara. Hypocrite.

True, but they can't shake off their debts because there is no formal credit system in India. Farmers can't just file for bankruptcy. There isn't even a safety net for them. All of these things were provided by the British before independence, and farmers in other countries have these safeguards in place. This has to be fought for politically. I think NRI's have to make more engines to run Punjab. There is a huge drug and cancer problem in Punjab. If NRI's built more hospitals, it would employ people as doctors, nurses, technicians, laborers, etc. There would actually be some opportunity for people. It would reduce the drug culture because young men with disposable income, and nothing to do, would suddenly have a job. It would also treat the cancer epidemic. Just my two cents

If we are obnoxious, then you must be our prophet. You wish there was a paradigm shift. Maybe it would give you a shot at revenge, for however you feel you have been slighted. The only paradigm shift that is happening is that Sikhs are becoming a minority in Punjab.