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  1. If you are Gurmukh then even you are in Beer Bar, nothing affects you. ਕਬੀਰ ਸੰਤੁ ਨ ਛਾਡੈ ਸੰਤਈ ਜਉ ਕੋਟਿਕ ਮਿਲਹਿ ਅਸੰਤ ॥ Kabeer, the Saint does not forsake his Saintly nature, even though he meets with millions of evil-doers. ਮਲਿਆਗਰੁ ਭੁਯੰਗਮ ਬੇਢਿਓ ਤ ਸੀਤਲਤਾ ਨ ਤਜੰਤ ॥੧੭੪॥ Even when sandalwood is surrounded by snakes, it does not give up its cooling fragrance. ||174| Regarding Temples and Mosques: Their philosophy does not match Gurmat philosophy. So we think there is no use of going there? Like, We read Tav Prasad Savaiyey Daily lets have answer from there They, in temples, will worship Idol and Tav Parsad Savaiyey ਕਾਹੂ ਲੈ ਪਾਹਨ ਪੂਜ ਧਰਯੋ ਸਿਰ ਕਾਹੂ ਲੈ ਲਿੰਗ ਗਰੇ ਲਟਕਾਇਓ ॥....ਕੋਉ ਬੁਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਤ ਹੈ ਪਸੁ ....ਕੂਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਉਰਿਝਓ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧੦॥੩੦॥ They, in temples, will say Worship Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and Tav Prasad Savaiyey again stops us: ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਮਹੇਸਰ ਬਿਸਨ ਸਚੀਪਿਤ ਅੰਤ ਫਸੇ ਜਮ ਫਾਸਿ ਪਰੈਂਗੇ ॥ They, in mosque, will say Allah is in west and Tav Prasad Savaiyey again stops us: ਕਾਹੂ ਪਛਾਹ ਕੋ ਸੀਸੁ ਨਿਵਾਇਓ ॥....ਕੂਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਉਰਿਝਓ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧੦॥੩੦॥ They, in mausaleum, will say bow before Mazaar of SHeikh Flana Timkana Nau Gaja and Tav Prasad Savaiyey again stops us: ਕੋਉ ਮ੍ਰਿਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਨ ਧਾਇਓ ॥....ਕੂਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਉਰਿਝਓ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧੦॥੩੦॥ So if you will go there you will hear so Anti Gurmat things. These days we see fights in Gurdwaras;rather then preaching Gurmat; so our youth is even not entering in Guru Ghars.
  2. That list mention founder of Matt and their practices which is not equal to Gurmat not list of famous people. Ramanand Bairagi started Bairagi Matt and did not Bichari Prabhu Ki Reet, people still follows that Matt known as Bairagis. Do you know that? <- He Started Swami Ramanand have left Bairagi Matt and adopted Gurmat i.e Bichari Prabhu Ki Reet. <- He Left or do you believe he was still a Bairagi till end? So Suggesting that Ramanand Bairagi (Founder) and Swami Ramanand is same is a big mistake. Both Gurmat and Bairagi Matt have different philosophy and way of living. Like, There were many Fareeds in history. Every Fareed is not Shek Fareed of Gurbani but Gurbani one is famous now days. If according to you both Ramanand are same then; as per you Sikhs can adopt Bairag Matt too and leave 5 K's and put Kanthi Kaath Ki Daari because Swami Ramanand did this till his end. Do you accept this?
  3. Etymologically, If you will study meanings of all these terms "Devi, Chandi, Bhagauti, Durga, Kaal, Mahakaal" then you will understand that it is not about any Physical body or Lady or Wife of Mahadeu. Eight Hands of Chandi, Lion, etc are Qualitative aspects of Enlighten Soul. Like About Guru Amardas Bhatt says: ਬਾਰਿਜੁ ਕਰਿ ਦਾਹਿਣੈ ਸਿਧਿ ਸਨਮੁਖ ਮੁਖੁ ਜੋਵੈ ॥ ਰਿਧਿ ਬਸੈ ਬਾਂਵਾਂਗਿ ਜੁ ਤੀਨਿ ਲੋਕਾਂਤਰ ਮੋਹੈ ॥ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਸੈ ਅਕਹੀਉ ਸੋਇ ਰਸੁ ਤਿਨ ਹੀ ਜਾਤਉ ॥ ਮੁਖਹੁ ਭਗਤਿ ਉਚਰੈ ਅਮਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਇਤੁ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਾਤਉ ॥ On His right hand is the sign of the lotus; the Siddhis, the supernatural spiritual powers, await His Command. On His left are worldly powers, which fascinate the three worlds. The Inexpressible Lord abides in His Heart; He alone knows this joy. Guru Amar Daas utters the words of devotion, imbued with the Love of the Lord. Now if you will give Ignorant Painter to Paint Gur Amar Das what will he do? He will manifest an Idol of Guru Amardas with Lotus on one hand and Power(Light) in other hand and in Heart some Deva. If you give these lines to Gur Gobind Singh, then what will he manifest?
  4. Famous does not suggest only. Using "Ji", again does not mean that it is only about one famous Bairagi like If I call Bhagat Singh Ji does not mean that it is everytime about Shaheed Bhagat Singh Ji. Many Translators use such prefixes or suffixes like for Muhammad (Hazrat or Muhammad Saab), for Krishan (Krishan Ji), for Rama(Ram Ji). Even they call Ram Rai (Baba Ram Rai Ji), Prithi chand(Baba Prithi chand). Ramanand of Dasam Granth is one who has initiated Bairagi Tradition and did Karma Kaand in rest of life (ਭੇਸ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਕੋ ਜਿਨਿ ਧਰਾ ॥ ਕੰਠੀ ਕੰਠਿ ਕਾਠ ਕੀ ਡਾਰੀ) and have not contemplate on Lord - ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਕਿ੍ਰਆ ਕੁਛ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ. Bairagi is old vaishnav tradition and followers of Rama/Vishnu. Swami Ramanand of Guru Granth Sahib, who do adopted Vaishnav Tradition and propogated it, but after learning Gurmat he left that tradition(no more Bairagi) and adopted Gurmat way of life which means - ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਕਿ੍ਰਆ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ. His Hymn is present in Gur Granth Sahib. Ramanand even write that there is no significance of going to Thakur Temples: ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥ ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥ ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥ ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥ ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥ ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥ ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥ ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥...ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥. So Shabads of Both Granth tells that ideologically both Ramanands are different.
  5. Do we think either Bikrami or Nanakshahi use Gurmat Terminology? Like Jyoti Jyot Samauna: They(Calendarists) call physical death as Jyoti Jyot Samauna which is blunder as per Gurbani. Jyoti Jyot Samauna is a task which a soul need to achieve. ਆਪਨੜਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤੀ ਰਲੀਐ ॥੩॥ (Aapnarha Prabhu Nadar Kar Dekhe Nanak Joti Joti Raliye). We have many Shabads in Gurbani which explains Jyoti jyot Samauna is not Physical Death but it is union with owns Lord. When Bhai lehna learnt Gurmat from Gur Nanak and when he ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖੈ, that day is Jyoti Jyot Samauna. Now Can Calendarists find the dates of Jyoti Jyot Samauna of every Gur/Bhagats?
  6. Try to find answer of this question in Bani. Gurbani States: Patshah: ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਬਖਸੇ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਾਲਾਹ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੀ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੁ ॥੨੫॥ (Jis No Bakshe Sifti Salah, Nanak Patsaahi Paatsaah) Mahalla: ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਮਹਲੁ ਪਾਵਹੁ ਸੁਖ ਸਹਜੇ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਨ ਹੋਇਗੋ ਫੇਰਾ ॥੩॥ (Nij Ghar Mahal Pavho Sukh Sehje Bahur Na Hoyego Fera - P: 13) ਤਾ ਮਨੁ ਖੀਵਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਜਾ ਮਹਲੀ ਪਾਏ ਥਾਉ ॥੨॥ (Ta Mann Khiva Jaaniye Ja Mehali Paae Thaao - P:16) There are many lines which explains that Nij Ghar = Nirankar ka Des is Mahal and dweller of same is Mahalla. As per Gurmat Philosophy there is no difference between Mahalla and Patshah. And also we need to concentrate that it is Patshahi 10 which automatically makes first 9 Gur's Patshah. So this logic will not work that Gur Gobind Singh had some Ego problem. ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਬਖਸੇ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਾਲਾਹ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੀ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੁ ॥੨੫॥ (Jis No Bakshe Sifti Salah, Nanak Patsaahi Paatsaah)
  7. Ram Rai was eldest son of Patshahi 7 (Guru Har Rai). He was excommunicated from Sikhi by Patshahi 7(Guru Har Rai) because he distorted Gurbani. His followers are called Ram Raiye, who call him "Guru Ram Rai"; and their headquarter is at Dehradoon. Khalsa is directed not to associate with Ram Raiyas along with Dhir Maliyas, Meenas, Masands.
  8. ਨਿਜ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਸਾਥ ਨੇਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਨਿਤ ਬਢੈਯਹੁ ॥ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੀ ਸੇਜ ਭੂਲਿ ਸੁਪਨੇ ਹੂੰ ਨ ਜੈਯਹੁ ॥੫੧॥ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਭਜੇ ਸਹਸ ਬਾਸਵ ਭਗ ਪਾਏ ॥ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਭਜੇ ਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਕਾਲੰਕ ਲਗਾਏ ॥ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਹੇਤ ਸੀਸ ਦਸ ਸੀਸ ਗਵਾਯੋ ॥ ਹੋ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਹੇਤ ਕਟਕ ਕਵਰਨ ਕੌ ਘਾਯੋ ॥੫੨॥ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਸੌ ਨੇਹੁ ਛੁਰੀ ਪੈਨੀ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਹੁ ॥ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਭਜੇ ਕਾਲ ਬ੍ਯਾਪਯੋ ਤਨ ਮਾਨਹੁ ॥ ਅਧਿਕ ਹਰੀਫੀ ਜਾਨਿ ਭੋਗ ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਜੋ ਕਰਹੀ ॥ ਹੋ ਅੰਤ ਸ੍ਵਾਨ ਕੀ ਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਹਾਥ ਲੇਂਡੀ ਕੇ ਮਰਹੀ ॥੫੩॥ (ਅਥ ਪਖ੍ਯਾਨ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਲਿਖ੍ਯਤੇ, ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੀ ੧੦) ਪਰ ਧਨ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ਰਤੁ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਈ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ (ਪੰਨਾ 1255, ਸਤਰ 1, ਮਃ 1 ) ਜਿਉ ਬਿਖਈ ਹੇਰੈ ਪਰ ਨਾਰੀ ॥ ਕਉਡਾ ਡਾਰਤ ਹਿਰੈ ਜੁਆਰੀ ॥੩॥ - Manmukh ਜਹ ਜਹ ਦੇਖਉ ਤਹ ਤਹ ਰਾਮਾ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਤ ਧਿਆਵੈ ਨਾਮਾ ॥੪॥੨॥ - Gurmukh (ਪੰਨਾ 873, ਸਤਰ 15, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ)
  9. Curse or Bad Dua also called Shraap. General Statement: Person who gives Shraap - Outcome of Anger, Lack of Tolerance. Which is not Gurmat!!! Have you heard Bhagats/Gurus giving Shraap in response to atrocities they faced? Person who believes that he is Shraapit - Fearful, Ignorant, Coward, Poor Psychology Do you think Gursikhs/Khalsa ever scare from Shraap of these Sadhus, Sants, Scholars? What Gurmat Says? Follower of almighty(Gursikh/Khalsa) should remember this lines of Guru Gobind Singh: ਜਿਹ ਰਾਗ ਨ ਰੂਪ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਰੁਖੰ ॥ ਜਿਹ ਤਾਪ ਨ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਨ ਸੋਕ ਸੁਖੰ ॥ He has no affection for any form, sign of face. He is without any effect of heat and curse and without grief and comfort. ਨ ਰੋਗ ਨ ਸੋਗ ਨ ਭੋਗ ਭੁਯੰ ॥ ਜਿਹ ਖੇਦ ਨ ਭੇਦ ਨ ਛੇਦ ਛਯੰ ॥੪॥੧੪੪॥ He is without ailment, sorrow, enjoyment and fear. He is without pain, without contrast, without jealousy, without thirst.4.144. ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਸੋ ਹਰਿ ਜੇਹਾ ॥ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਨਰਕਿ ਨ ਜਾਏ ॥ There is only one curse: ਭਰਮੇ ਭਾਹਿ ਨ ਵਿਝਵੈ ਜੇ ਭਵੈ ਦਿਸੰਤਰ ਦੇਸੁ ॥ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਉਤਰੈ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਜੀਵਣੁ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਵੇਸੁ ॥, If Mann is Maleen we are already cursed by ourselves. Purify ourselves!! So follow what Gurbani says, find all qualities of almighty inside you: Sab Kich Ghar me and when ਅੰਤਰਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਉਤਰੈ, then ਜਿਹ ਰਾਗ ਨ ਰੂਪ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਰੁਖੰ ॥ ਜਿਹ ਤਾਪ ਨ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਨ ਸੋਕ ਸੁਖੰ ॥
  10. General News Share: Good to see that governments are taking interest and views of Sikh religion toward world peace. From official Page: https://www.facebook.com/BMZ.Bund/posts/835890306471434 High scholar of Sikh religion in the BMZ Religion matters! Religious representatives in the dialogue. The BMZ is the new lecture series in which representatives of various world religions invites to discuss the potential of religion to sustainable development and peace. This time Dharam Singh Nihang Singh, one of the highest scholars of the Sikh religion. The Sikh religion is a monotheistic religion in the 15th century. She has today some 23 million followers, making it the fifth largest world religion. Religion is very important for over 80 percent of the people in our partner countries. Religion influenced the view of the world, the lifestyle and the dedication of many people. It is a strong political and social creativity. How do we in the development policy thus? How can we better include the potential of religion to sustainable development and peace? This issue is discussed in the dialogue series. More on: www.bmz.de/…/was…/themen/religion-und-entwicklung/index.html About BMZ - Federal Ministry of Economic Cooperation and Development: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Ministry_of_Economic_Cooperation_and_Development
  11. These lines; ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਨ ਕਛੂ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥੨੫॥, are about; Ramanand Bairagi; who started Bairag Matt and who did not contempolate on Lord; ਭਾਵ ਕੀ ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਕਿ੍ਰਆ ਕੁਛ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ। Bhagat Swami Ramanand, whose hymn is in Adi Granth, who adopted Bairag Matt first; but he left it; and adopted Gurmat. Bhagat ramanand is not founder of Bairag Matt; you can call him a reviver once but again deserter to Bairagi people because he left their philosophy. So both are Ramanand Bairagi and Bhagat Ramanand are different.
  12. Look into religious past before publiciting a thought. Bhagats before adopting Gurmat way of life were follower of some different Mat. For Example: Mahalla 2 was follower of Shakta Mat, Mahalla 3 was following Vaishnav Mat. Similarly Kabir was following Vaishnav Sect and same with Ravidas and Namdev. Kabir had written many verses when he was follower of vaishnavism sect. The bani which he had written, before adopting Gurmat, is generally attributed as Kachi Bani, as philosophy is not Gurmat. For Vaishvanism Sect, Kabir also mentioned "Sagal Janam Shivpuri Gavaya". Many dohas of kabir which are famous; are not in Adi Granth because they are all Kacha Shalokas i.e Hymns which were written by him before adopting Gurmat. After adopting Gurmat, Kabir had written Bani again, which is Gurbani, and is present in Adi Granth. So if you want to predict state/stage of Kabir, then you have to follow Kabir Bani in Adi Granth; not Bijak (Which is mixture of Pakki and Kachi Bani of Kabir). Some foolish scholars started calling Kabir anti-women blindly which is false allegation under ignorance.
  13. 17 times he made krishna unconscious. This deteriorates image of Mahadev, ganesha, Kartikey, Krishna and other deities. Khadag Singh vs. Mahadev,Ganesh and Kartikey... http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Khadag_Singh_vs._Mahadev,Ganesh_and_Kartikey
  14. A General share: Nice video where a learner and admirer of Dasam Patshah, explaining that Chandi, Durga, Bhagvati, which Guru Gobind Singh explained, is not Lady or Idol, but is Power of Supreme (Shakti or Hukam). Video Link He accepted that Idol and Lady was made by Shararti people of his who does not understand Durga and So called preachers (Anti Dasam), who calls themselves Sikhs, are promoting definitions of these Sharati people in Sikhism.
  15. Just for Share, http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Dasam_Granth_Sahib_on_Idol_Worship I was pasting text here but i get text as codes: ਕਾਹੂ ਲੈ ਪਾਹਨ ਪੂਜ ਧਰਯੋ ਸਿਰ ਕਾਹੂ ਲੈ ਲਿੰਗ ਗਰੇ ਲਟਕਾਇਓ ॥ Someone worshipped stone and placed it on his head. Someone hung the phallus (lingam) from his neck. ਕਾਹੂ ਲਖਿਓ ਹਰਿ ਅਵਾਚੀ ਦਿਸਾ ਮਹਿ ਕਾਹੂ ਪਛਾਹ ਕੋ ਸੀਸੁ ਨਿਵਾਇਓ ॥ Someone visualized God in the South and someone bowed his head towards the West. ਕੋਉ ਬੁਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਤ ਹੈ ਪਸੁ ਕੋਉ ਮ੍ਰਿਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਨ ਧਾਇਓ ॥ Some fool worships the idols and someone goes to worship the dead. ਕੂਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਉਰਿਝਓ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧੦॥੩੦॥ The whole world is entangled in false rituals and has not known the secret of Lord-God 10.30. (Akaal Ustat, Dasam Granth Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh)
  16. Mixed reviews Taran Adarsh of Bollywood Hungama gave Son of Sardaar 4 out of 5 stars and stated Son of Sardaar is for lovers of hardcore masala movies. If you liked Wanted, Dabangg and Rowdy Rathore, chances are you will relish Son of Sardaar as well. The North Indian audiences in particular and those residing abroad will be simply delighted by this chatpata, masaledaar fare. Times of India gave Son of Sardaar 3 out of 5 stars and stated that Ashwni Dhir entertains in parts, with a plenty of Punju humour and goofy one-liners that crack you up. While handling all the Jaswinders, Parminders, Happys and Sweetys, he loses the plot, stretching it all around the sarson-ka-khet (and leaving some behind). This is a mass-entertainer. Zee News has given 3 out of 5 to the film and stated that Certain portions are a bit of a drag, but the comic sequences will make up for the monotony. The cast has put up a good show. Overall, SOS is worth a watch, a complete family entertainer. NDTV gave Son of Sardaar 1.5 out 5 and stated Son of Sardaar deserves no form of absolution, no matter who or what your God is. Rediff gave 2 out of 5 and stated Son of Sardaar has a lot for the masses but it lacks a good story.[43] Bollywood Life gave 2.5 out of 5 and stated Son of Sardaar is over-the-top and occasionally entertaining!
  17. Dasam Granth supports Guru Granth Sahib for understanding the History of Religion Guru Granth Sahib:No Direct Information about Khalsa Panth Dasam Granth Sahib: Information about creation of Khalsa Panth. (Ref Akal Purakh Baach Keet prati) Guru Granth Sahib: No detailed information about previous Religions travelled because matter of Content is to purify the internal being, also done sanctification in Karma Kand prevailing around society among jains, hindus etc. Dasam Granth Sahib: Detailed information how religion travelled. upto Khalsa Panth (Chobis Avtar include Vedic information, how jains came, how buddh came, how yogis came, how sanyasis came, how vaishvanism form, how krishnism form etc.). This is required for Khalsa Warrior to know the metality of other religions and how to do parchar of Gurmat among them. Guru Granth Sahib: Comparable Less Beer Rass, more other rass. Dasam Granth Sahib: More Beer Rass, less others (Chandi charitras, Chobis Avtars, Rudra Avtars(Parasnath especially), Few Triya Charitras too. Military valor. Directs that it is form Military man. PADHEY SOOM SOFI LADEY YUDH GAADEY Guru Granth Sahib: Amendments done with Concepts of narrations flourished in society (Ram is internal, Krishna is internal, Janak soyi jin janeya, Shiv is parmeshar, etcetc). Whole narrations are not amended here Dasam Granth Sahib: Amendments done to whole narrations flourishing in society (Whole Ramayana Written, Whole Krishna Avtar, Whole Rudra Avtar). SUDHAARA (Sudhar ke likheeya hai) Guru Granth Sahib: Explain Durmati, Gurmati, Manmati, Sakat Mati, etc, less examples from society but taken example of dogs, pigs, trees, some human qualities like Amli, bride, etc. Dasam granth Sahib: Explain Durmati, Gurmati, Manmati in form of Triya Charitars contain all examples prevalent in society(Kings, Queens, Shah, Princess, Prince, etc). Help khalsa to get away from negative mati. Moreover contains Raajneeti, Dharm Neeti examples too. Many such things are there where both granths are interrelated and supporting each other. It is about Religious Topics and it's expansion, rass, examples, categorization of things, covering aspects. Topics are touched in both granths somewhere it is less somewhere it is in more details. Now if question arises in some HUJJATI mind that Guru Granth Sahib is not pooran etc. then request for that HUJJATI that also arise one more question in mind that was not Guru nanak's bani pooran that others need to write it again? The bani never ends
  18. ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਜਗਤ ਬਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੇਵ ਦੈਤ ਜੱਛਨ ਉਪਜਾਯੋ ॥ ਆਦਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਏਕੈ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥ ਸੋਈ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਮਝਿਯਹੁ ਹਮਾਰਾ ॥੩੮੫॥ ਨਮਸ਼ਕਾਰ ਤਿਸ ਹੀ ਕੋ ਹਮਾਰੀ ॥ ਸਕਲ ਪ੍ਰਜਾ ਜਿਨ ਆਪ ਸਵਾਰੀ ॥ जवन काल सभ जगत बनायो ॥ देव दैत ज्छन उपजायो ॥ आदि अंति एकै अवतारा ॥ सोई गुरू समझियहु हमारा ॥३८५॥ नमशकार तिस ही को हमारी ॥ सकल प्रजा जिन आप सवारी ॥ The Temporal Lord, who created the whole world; who created gods, demons and yakshas; He is the only one form the beginning to the end; I consider Him only my Guru.385. I salute Him, non else, but Him; who has created Himself and His subject; Thats funny.... i can see only Codes. Where is Unicode text ? Technical guys please look into matter
  19. Thank you for replying I have seen two thoughts online 1) Hindu is mistaken form of SINDHU - Indus river The video in post 1, Pundit Mahendra Pal Condemn with Logic that if Persian could not speak 'S', then 'S' should not be present in their speaking order. Even Faarsi should be converted to FAARAHI 2) Hindu is muslim word of Arabic, Persian which does not have good meanings, which is accepted by many scholars. Even in Sikh Granths we have no meaning of Hindu something good like we have meanings of Real Yogi, Real Bairagi, Good Sanyasi, Real Brahmin, even real Musalmaan.... but nothing like REAL Hindu is present Few people says that something like ZEND AVESTA, contains that word, if anyone have knowledge about that, any link of which line of Zend Avesta this word present.
  20. We have Bani of all Mahapurakhs belong to Brahmin(Bhatts, ramanand, trilochan), Kashatriyas(pipa, nanak), Shudras(namdev, kabir), Vaishyas(Dhanna), so no one should feel inferior. All are together, so no issue of casteism at all in Gurmat Gurbani have other sort of Classicism, based on Divine Knowledge and Awakening. > Saakat > MANMUKHI > GURMUKHI > DURMATI > Nindak > Ganika These are classes of JOTI not JAATI. A Jatt can be Gurmukh or can be Saakat. Jatt is by profession/Body/DNA/RNA/Blood groups . . Attitude of Gurmukh is JAANO JYOT NA POOCHO JAATI AGGEY JAAT NA HEY
  21. The following links not to preach about this person, but just saw it online and seems to me authentic and want to share it Could you share your views/from your knowledge on this term Hindu, on it's origin of this word? If it is not our word(indian) then why to use it? and how could Sikhs accept this, if these are real meanings?
  22. Unable to open website. If it contains Translations by Pritpal Singh Bindra then i feel it is of no use Is there Translation available other then Pritpal Singh Bindra, who has given word to word translation?
  23. Not2Cool2Argue Veer ji Please read the whole!!! As per my histroy understanding, Khalsa is temporal son of Guru Gobind Singh and Mata Sahib Devan,(but have taken spiritual knowledge from Guru Sahib, which is seperate subject the reason we call him :respect: GURU SAHIB- spiritual guide :respect: ) When Mata Sahib Devan Ji asked for son (not spiritual Son), Guru Sahib tells him that Khalsa is your Son. (again this is temporal fact) In Spiritual Realm, All bhagats(gurus, Bhagats, khalsa) are one no Jaat Kull etc.There is no term relatons of Spiritual Father (aatmik Pita), Spiritual Mother (Aatmik Mata), Spiritual Sons(Aatmik bacha) among Spirits. ANEK HAIN FIR EIK HAIN Spirit have only one father i.e Akal Purakh = HUKAM, when akal purakh said to Guru Sahib MAIN APNA SUTT TOHEY NIVAJA PANTH PARCHUR KARNE KO SAJA (Acc to this Spiritual father is only one Akal Purakh) but Temporal Father is Guru Tegh bahadur Sahib i.e TAAT MAAT AKAKH ARADHA BOH BIDH SADHNA SADHA. PANTH CHALE TAB JAGAT MEY is about Jagat the world which is itself Temporal. TU MERO PITA TU HAI MERO MATA, is about Spiritual Father (Akaal Purakh = Hukam). GURU KHALSA MAANEYO PARGAT GURAAN KI DEH (Rehatnama Bhai Prehlaad Singh JI)
  24. ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਸਬਜ਼ ਰੰਗ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾਰਾ ਬਕਾਰ ਅਸਤ ਦਰ ਵਕਤ ਜੰਗ ॥੬੪॥ ਬ ਮਨ ਦਿਹ ਕਿ ਬਖ਼ਤ ਆਜ਼ਮਾਈ ਕੁਨਮ ॥ ਜ਼ਿ ਤੇਗ਼ੇ ਖ਼ੁਦਸ਼ ਕਾਰਵਾਈ ਕੁਨਮ ॥੬੫॥੨॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਸਬਜ਼ ਰੰਗ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾਰਾ ਬਕਾਰ ਅਸਤ ਦਰ ਵਕਤ ਜੰਗ ॥੫੬॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਨੈਨ ਪਾਨ ॥ ਕੁਨਦ ਪੀਰ ਸਦ ਸਾਲਹ ਰਾ ਨਉ ਜਵਾਨ ॥੫੭॥੩॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਜਾਮ ਫੇਰੋਜ਼ਹ ਫ਼ਾਮ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾ ਰਾ ਬ ਕਾਰ ਅਸਤ ਰੋਜ਼ੇ ਤਮਾਮ ॥੧੪੦॥ ਤੁ ਮਾਰਾ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਤਾ ਸ਼ਵਮ ਤਾਜ਼ਹ ਦਿਲ ॥ ਕਿ ਗੌਹਰ ਬਿਆਰੇਮ ਆਲੂਦਹ ਗਿਲ ॥੧੪੧॥੪॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਪ੍ਯਾਲਹ ਫ਼ੇਰੋਜ਼ ਫ਼ਾਮ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾਰਾ ਬਕਾਰ ਅਸਤ ਦਰ ਵਕਤ ਤੁਆਮ ॥੫੦॥ ਬਮਨ ਦਿਹ ਕਿ ਖ਼ੁਸ਼ਤਰ ਦਿਮਾਗ਼ੇ ਕੁਨਮ ॥ ਕਿ ਰੌਸ਼ਨ ਤਬੈ ਚੂੰ ਚਰਾਗ਼ੇ ਕੁਨਮ ॥੫੧॥੫॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗਰੇ ਸਬਜ਼ ਪਾਨ ॥ ਕਿ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਸ਼ਊਰ ਅਸਤ ਜ਼ਾਹਰ ਜਹਾਨ ॥੪੨॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਜਾਮ ਫ਼ੀਰੋਜ਼ ਰੰਗ ॥ ਕਿ ਦਰ ਵਕਤ ਸ਼ਬ ਚੂੰ ਖ਼ੁਸ਼ੇ ਰੋਜ਼ ਜੰਗ ॥੪੩॥੬॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਸੁਰਖ਼ ਫ਼ਾਮ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾਰਾ ਬ ਕਾਰ ਅਸਤ ਵਕਤੇ ਮੁਦਾਮ ॥੪੮॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਪਿਯਾਲਹ ਫ਼ੇਰੋਜ਼ ਰੰਗੀਨ ਰੰਗ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾਰਾ ਖ਼ੁਸ਼ ਆਮਦ ਬਸੇ ਵਕਤ ਜੰਗ ॥੪੯॥੭॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸੁਰਖ਼ ਰੰਗੇ iਫ਼ਰੰਗ ॥ ਖ਼ੁਸ਼ ਆਮਦ ਮਰਾ ਵਕਤ ਜ਼ਦ ਤੇਗ਼ ਜੰਗ ॥੪੬॥ ਬ ਮਨ ਦਿਹ ਕਿ ਖ਼ੁਦ ਰਾ ਪਯੋਰਸ ਕੁਨਮ ॥ ਬ ਤੇਗ਼ ਆਜ਼ਮਾਈਸ਼ ਕੋਹਸ ਕੁਨਮ ॥੪੭॥੮॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਜਾਮ ਸਬਜ਼ੇ ਮਰਾ ॥ ਕਿ ਸਰਬਸਤਹ ਮਨ ਗੰਜ ਬਖ਼ਸ਼ਮ ਤੁਰਾ ॥੪੩॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਸਬਜ਼ ਫ਼ਾਮ ॥ ਕਿ ਖ਼ਸਮ ਅਫ਼ਕਨੋ ਵਕਤਹ ਸਤਸ਼ ਬ ਕਾਮ ॥੪੪॥੯॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਸਬਜ਼ ਆਬ ॥ ਕਿ ਬੇਰੂੰ ਬਿਅਫ਼ਤਾਦ ਪਰਦਹ ਨਕਾਬ ॥੧੭੮॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਬਜ਼ ਰੰਗੇ iਫ਼ਰੰਗ ॥ ਕਿ ਵਕਤੇ ਬ ਕਾਰ ਅਸਤ ਅਜ਼ ਰੋਜ਼ ਜੰਗ ॥੧੭੯॥੧੦॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਕੋਕਨਾਰ ॥ ਦਰੇ ਵਕਤ ਜੰਗਸ਼ ਬਿਯਾਮਦ ਬ ਕਾਰ ॥੫੯॥ ਕਿ ਖ਼ੂਬਸਤ ਦਰ ਵਕਤ ਖ਼ਸਮ ਅਫ਼ਕਨੀ ॥ ਕਿ ਯਕ ਕੁਰਤਯਸ ਫ਼ੀਲ ਰਾ ਪੈਕਨੀ ॥੬੦॥੧੧॥ ਬਿਦਿਹ ਸਾਕੀਯਾ ਸਾਗ਼ਰੇ ਸਬਜ਼ ਗੂੰ ॥ ਕਿ ਮਾਰਾ ਬਕਾਰਸਤ ਜੰਗ ਅੰਦਰੂੰ ॥੨੦॥ ਲਬਾਲਬ ਬਕੁਨ ਦਮ ਬਦਮ ਨੋਸ਼ ਕੁਨ ॥ ਗ਼ਮੇ ਹਰ ਦੁ ਆਲਮ ਫ਼ਰਾਮੋਸ਼ ਕੁਨ ॥੨੧॥੧੨॥
  25. Please share your views!!! I was studying Bachitra Natak, i mention here especially about Subh Bansh Barnan Dutiya Adhiyaye and Patshahi Barnan. > :respect: Guru Gobind Singh ji Patshah 10 :respect: has written in Dasam granth Sahib that He belongs to Sodhi Vansh (want to clear here i am just mentioning about Temporal LIneage not Spiritual because Bhagtas have no Vansh, Kull etc. It is same like they have one father i.e god but as we know that Temporal Father of Guru Sahib is Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib so Temporal fact should not be denied....and this is Temporal Fact) which is further continuation of Raghu Vansh (Rama Ji was also born in same vansh but Guru Sahib did not give him much importance, even haven't used word SRI but used RAAM KUMAR for him, just written KAAL PAAYE SUR PUREH SIDHAYO the same like in Guru Granth Sahib it is written RAAM GAYO RAAVAN GAYO) which is further continuation of Suyavansh. > :respect: Khalsa :respect: is son of Guru Gobind Singh and Mata Sahib Devan that means Khalsa is also part of same Sodhivanshi <- Raghuvanshi <- Suryavanshi. (Temporal LIneage) > Which means Hindu brothers worship forefathers of Khalsa (like Rama), whom Khalsa treat as Normal Human being (Not God), even in Guru Granth Sahib or like in Dasam Granth it is mentioned (KITEY RAAM SEY MET DAAREY UPAAYE) Note: If Mehta Kalyan was Idol Worshipper Hindu, this does not mean that Baba Nanak was not Temporal Son of him and if some one want to go with Mehta Kalyan Dass thought then let him go but if someone want to go with Baba Nanak's thought then how could we call him Idol worshippers? The above facts in Dasam Granth does not make Khalsa, a Hindu from any side? Does not provoke Khalsa to go for Idol Worship. Does not provoke Khalsa to Do Rama Worship or Krishna Worship etc. I don't know from where Anti Dasam People think that this makes us Hindu? RSS, VHP, etc if say that Sikhs are hindu due to this fact then what is difference between them and anti dasam people? > Fact is that Khalsa is Heritor of Raghu Vansh, and Raghu, Surya etc. who was ruler of most of parts of india upto Afghanistan and even Tazhakitan > Even By this Khalsa is actual heritor(Waaris) of maximum part of land of India. Especially, Lahore, Kasoor, Ayodhya etc Please contribute your views !!!
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