shastarSingh

Don't nihangs hv kirpan amrit for women?

Nihangs preserve Guru ji's baana and old rehit. They preserve Guru Gobind Singh ji's baani. But they need to listen to panth as well. Lesser cannabis leaves in shaheedi degh. Same khande baate da amrit for women. Kirpan amrit is for non sikh women who agree to marry a Singh and raise kids as Sikhs.

Even Sardar Ajmer Singh is critical of Gobind gita.

Lately some parcharaks hv got Gobind gita published and hv plans to do its katha. Damdami taksal Mehta chowk calls itself puratan samparda. They are scaring these parcharaks to stop their work on Gobind gita. Had it been anarchy like situation, they might hv physically threatened these parcharaks. Just because an organization is old, doesn't mean it's 100% right.

Real gaddaars shud be punished. But our qaum has a tendency that any person they don't like personally, they call him a gaddaar. So there is a chance that we might start killing each other by calling each other gaddaar.

It will be good if couple of nindaks of Dasam Granth Sahib are sent to he'll. But other than that if panthic groups fight with each other, it will be the loss of whole Khalsa panth.

It's a copy paste error.

I hv contact with sikhs from various different organizations. There is so much distrust and dislike for each other between them, I won't be surprised if they physically attack each other especially if there is some anarchy or disorder in India. Ideally if there is anarchy in India, Sikhs shud get together and form a sikh state. That's why efforts shud be made NOW to get unity between sikh organizations.

I hv contact with sikhs from various different organizations. There is so much distrust and dislike for each other between them, I won't be surprised if they physically attack each other especially if there is some anarchy or disorder in India. Ideally if there is anarchy in India, Sikhs shud get together and form a sikh state. That's why efforts shud be made NOW to get unity between sikh organizations.

I used the word great for this amritdhari in the title of this thread. He had great amritvelaas and loads of kamayee. He was doing great bhagti but suddenly in his last years got so much interested in Maya when he already had more than enough money. My point is Only Guru Sahib is perfect. Gursikhs can falter.

Even the Singhs who gave bedaava to Guru Sahib must hv been good rehitvaan gursikhs but what a grave mistake they made. But our Guru ji is so great that He forgave the mistake.

Yes only Guru Sahib has the power and authority to give Naam to human beings. Even the greatest brahmgyani cannot give Naam to anyone.

Bhai Gurdas was a pooran brahmgyani, way ahead than present day babaas. He made a mistake and wrote: If Guru tests His sikh, sikh shud not waver.... Guru Arjan dev ji told Bhai gurdas to correct his line, Bhai Gurdas corrected it by writing: If Guru tests His sikh, what can the sikh do?

AMdir sBu ko ABulu gurU krqwru ] bhulan a(n)dhar sabh ko abhul guroo karataar ||

There are many different spiritual avasthas and gursikhs belong to those different avasthas. Very high avastha gursikhs or brahmgyanis are close to being perfect but still they are not perfect.

Nihangs believe entire Sarbloh Granth Sahib to be Guru Gobind Singh ji's baani.

Not exactly vaheguru! It seems to remember God when it hears satnaam waheguru from Gurdwara Sahib.

I feel that one of the reasons Guru Gobind Singh ji liked Hanuman Natak was because hanuman had immense loyalty and love for raam. Guru Sahib really valued that. We hv so many granthis who do lots of paatth but still don't hv much spiritual avastha. They do paatth for money and not for love of Guru Sahib or God. Being totally committed and loyal to Guru Sahib comes first. Bhagti is also very important but it comes after loyalty and love and commitment.

By Guru Sahib, I mean our 10 Guru Sahibaan. By submission, I meant being ready to sacrifice anything for Guru Sahib.

Is submission to Guru Sahib wrong?

There hv been many Kharrku Singhs who had ok bhagti but not enough to reach Sachkhand. But they reached sachkhand because they gave shaheedi for their Guru.

There is a nice sikh parcharak who keeps contact with naamdharis as they hv very good collection of books and manuscripts in their library. We were talking about naamdharis on phone and he told me that a naamdhari has become amritdhari. The naamdhari shared his experience that he has been doing nitnem for many years and used to feel ok. But now he has become amritdhari and loyal to 10 Guru Sahibaan and has rejected the fake naamdhari gurus, he feels so much great when he does his nitnem. He feels so much charrdikala after becoming amritdhari.

Even if u provide solid evidence, people belonging to a group are not willing to change their stance. They feel that founder or leader of their group was God and he cannot make an error.