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  1. Veer ji, the problem here is that the meanings are wrong. This is what happens when one whose mind is not awoken does meanings of gurbani. Gurbani is telling us here what hukum ego has. As it is one of the demons from the punj, who are still under hukum of vaheguru. Gurbani says that hukum is to put the Mind into kirat karam. This sends the mind into many joons We then do benti gurbani says: kirt karam ki vichaarai kar kirpa mehalau raam. You will keep finding bani that will raise doubts..why? Well it is because a) our minds are asleep b) we rely on translations from people whose minds are also asleep...my query to you how can a sleeping mind translate bani that came from dhaargah. The vichaar goes much deeper of how ego puts the mind into many life forms. The game vaheguru has created: Karti Ni ik khel Richaya. Gurbani then says all maya is under kaals control: Khand Patal Deepka Saab Loha Kaala Vaas Prabh ApaaKeea
  2. if we read this tukh: it is saying 'haumai' caused the punishment of being placed in the garab (womb) in bani it again states this: Baadah Baadah Ankankaria Nanak Garab Gaala *One with a big ego, you shall die again and again in the womb of the mother* Now how to overcome this ego, you've so kindly stated here: In the first instance we apply this to Simran, Shabad Guru - which is Japna Saas Saas, Saas Giraas and Rom Rom Simran of vaheguru. Now once we japp this shabad the shabad will become pargat and this is the second instance where shabad guru is anhad shabad/sehaj dhun. Now how to do this practically that can be told by who has done practical themselves. Veer ji are my pms being sent to you, i replied twice but to no avail.
  3. besoft ego is not a gift from god, i requested in an early post why u presumed this. We discussed ego comes under one of the 5 demons that is in the trigun, gurbani says that one will not achieve sehaj in the trigun. Gurbani says the whole world wants sehaj but will never achieve it in trigun. Its all about chautha paad my friend. We both must get there there is no dukh or sukh there just saach. Guru says u wanna go there? First learn to die then come to me! ( I haven't posted the gurbani to each point made but as your a khoji you will know everything said is in line with bani!)
  4. As ive stated before, all knowledge posted here is not by me, it is from bhai sewa singh and bhai ajit singh. If one wants further information then goto www.simran.info and listen to the akath katha; any doubts please post. (also sorry if i keep posting the link again and again, not advertising just trying to make it clear a) I am not to be credited b) all vichaar is openly available on the internet)
  5. a quick request, does every1 understand the bani ive posted, i was thinking of re-writing the article so the tuks are explained.
  6. he is saying many other bhagats had approached guru arjan dev ji to have there bani placed in guru granth sahib ji. Take note, only bani that is dhaarj (present) in guru granth sahib ji is of those who had met god.
  7. What is simran as per gurbani, Gurbani says: Simar Simar Simar Gur Apna Soeya Munn Jigai Our guru is SHABAD GURU, the shabad guru gurbani talks about is 'vaheguru' The different types of simran are SAAS SAAS SIMRAN, SAAS GIRAAS SIMRAN, ROM ROM SIMRAN each done with a jugti as per gurbani. Where does simran take u? Well first it awakens the mind and where does it awaken the mind: PINNI RAHNARAI CHAAMKAAN THARA, JAAGAI SANT JAANA MERA RAAM PYARA now search gurbani to see where sant (mind) is avasta
  8. A very nice post indeed. Just to touch upon one or two points you made: This is so true, we first have to goto that place where we are going to goto after death. It is a misconception that if one, for example, has led a good life they are going to heaven/saach khand etc etc. Gurbani states otherwise, gurbani says the ones who haven't reached naam, anhad shabad, sehaj dhunn, sacha shabad, naad, toor etc (all names gurbani uses to refer to naam) one will have coming and going aka 'reincarnation': JINNI GURMUKH NAAM NAAH BUJOYAH MAAR JAAMAI AAVO JAI Some believe that it takes many lifetimes to reach god but again gurbani clears this doubt: PAE PRAAPT MANUKH DI HOORAI GOBIND MILN KEE EHHO TERI BAARIA
  9. Gurbani talks about a well that is inside us, inside this well there is amrit, we refer to it as amrit russ, amrit jaal. If this english translation is correct gurbani is saying: rope = metaphor for shabad water = amrit inside us One can only drink amrit russ through the shabad, but as your connection to the shabad is 'broken' it is foolish to try and draw water (amrit) from this well.
  10. thank you for your kind comments "V" veer ji. If you take a look at all my posts you will see how much gian (knowledge) is present in them for the seeker. But please note that it is not me who deserves credit for it. Firstly Satguru Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji deserves full credit, Why? Well all of gurbani tells us from VIJOG (from parting) to SANJOG (meeting) ...Guru Granth Sahib Ji has left no doubts all answer are there. All signs of who one is, where each avastaa is, how to get there, what the status of the mind is...step by step clear cut. Secondly I wouldn't have obtained this knowledge of theory and practical if it hadn't been for bhai sewa singh and bhai ajit singh, as they did the practical and are doing the practical and telling others. Before having this sangat I was reading gurbani like a parrot, just reading bani without actually thinking what is written. Without actually realising what bani is actually saying.....what the status of the mind is, how it was made, how did it get to the status it is at, how do we realise our true selfs and the practical...how do we awaken this sleeping mind and return to our turn homes! Finally, when one begins to gain these gifts that the satguru blesses us with then that person wants others to achieve the same things, because ultimately we are brothers and sisters.
  11. Haha besoft ji, although i pmed u saying i wont reply to your threads they are always so good! I will reply to your original query 'how to overcome ego' This is different from the actual thread. Ego is one of the 5 demons from kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, hankaar. Ego is the 'I' the 'Me' and this is a big down fall, one who is full of ego can not do bhagati. The short term: one has to do sewa of the saadh sangat, this will bring down ones ego and the person will become nirmal but beware even when doin sewa one must not go into ego! With sewa one must do simran, this is the other way to lower ones ego. Now when one reaches the panch (5) shabads he will beat kaal (devil) and the 5 dhoots (demons) gurbani says: VAAJAI PANCH SHABAD THITTAH GHARS BHAAGA, GHARS BHAAGA SHABAD VAJA KHAALA JIT GHAR DHAARIA, PANCH DHOOT DODDA VAAS KEETA KAAL KUNT KUMARIA bani is from anand sahib.
  12. gurbani about the keys: Satguru: Khat nem kar kothree bandhee bastu anoop beech paayee. Kunjee kulph praan kar rakhe karte baar na laayee: SGGS 339 Guru: Jis kaa grih tin deeyaa taalaa kunjee Gur sayupaayee. Anik upaav kare nahee paavai bin satgur sarnaayee: SGGS 205 Servant: Sifat jinaa kayu bakhseeyai seyee potedaar. Kunjee jin kayu diteeyaa tinaa mile bhandaar: (SGGS 1239)
  13. no, i haven't said you need a sant. I merely stated that one who is at sant (mind) has these duties. It was so that others who are stuck going to deras, babas dont get fooled. Secondly please dont ever refer to gurbani as 'one liner' this is quite disrespectful. Hunji, as stated before my own father and grandad, by the kirpa of the guru and saadh sangat, have reached the anhad bani. I will have to find the gurbani for this, I dont recall it from the top of my head. After that i shall not be posting on such matters as it is causing arguments and sikhs dont bens (argue).
  14. Firstly understand these are not phyiscal keys, they are metaphors. Now the problem you appear to have is with this tuk: "Anhad banee poonji. Santan hath rakhee koonji." p-893 http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.g...0&Param=893 And if doubt is still in your mind then ill give you practical examples of those from my family who do saadh sangat, how they have got this anhadbani. No doubts or tricks as they say 'proof is in the pudding'
  15. You are bensing (arguing), there is no need to argue - if you do not wish to accept what gurbani is saying then don't. Gurbani states one key is given to sant ...one given to guru and final key satguru has. If you don't like the veechar dont read it. again mocking. I don't have a 'sant' in the singular sense but have in the plural sense. 'saadh sangat'. What has sangat taught me? "Anhad Bani Gurshabad Jaani HarNaam Har Raas Pogo"
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