RebelSingh

yea tru, if only maharaja ranjit singh had listened 2 akali phula singh n his other khalsa associates, who warned him bowt these treachorous dogras. These r the same dogra/rajputs who in previous years fought side by side with mughals against Guru Gobind Singh, under the name of "pahari raje"/Hindu hill rajas

wudnt b suprised if they r associates of that fake kutha nihang, ajit phula

yea lol, thats y in the first page, i sed "LEGEND! Cudda done more for our community, but o well wen they get rich/famous they ALL forget where they came from.", coz he made panjabis/sikhs kinda famous abroad in the wrestling scene, but after becoming famous in the world, and within india, by gettin movie roles, he didnt rep sikhs much, infact hung around with arya samaj ppl (i think), had red tilaks on his mattha everytime, u fink he kinda sold out. the picture provided by "ghatak" kinda says it all. Altho he did make a fantastic movie, "sava lakh se ik Ladaun", in which he truely repped it for sikhi. He wanted 2 call the movie "Raj Karega Khalsa", but indian govt didnt allow, wonder y?

Paneer Monster is an expert regarding radhaswamis i believe, where r u @ mundiya?

beant n satwant were indeed from "lower" tribe. bhai jaita was of a mazhabi tribe, i believe also akali phula singh was from "lower" tribe, altho ive heard ppl say otherwise, dunno, dont care, hes a singh @ the end of theday. btw wat is regarded as lower caste? Coz Jatts r also a lower tribe, in brahmin circle, accordin to them, brahmins r top, then khatris, then every1 else is shudra n below. i find it laughable how jatts have made em selves bigger than every1 else, jus coz they became the majority number wise and land owners coz of banda bahadur, misls n maharja ranjit singh. before this, they were being bullied n kicked out of mandir n masjids by "higher" castes/tribes. it was sikhi that gave em equal status, thats y they converted en masse, along with other shudra castes. apparantly only 8,000!!! brahmins converted 2 sikhi during these 1700's-1900s period, according 2 british records. This was coz brahmins, by leaving hindu faith, didnt wanna give up their higher caste status, by joining sikhi n therefore become on the same status level as jatts, saini, chamar, naiy, julaha, khatri, rajputs, choora etc. They rather get raped into islam, than become part of a warrior dharam n have langar/pangat with sangat. also btw im not anti-jatt b4 any1 says, coz jatts have done more for the protection of sikhi, in terms of providing warriors, soldiers etc. I dont get peed off wen i listen 2 bhangra songs n dey mention jatt, coz most sikhs/panjabis r jatt, so its natural their names r mentioned. But it is funny how jatts have been accused/have been bullyin/mockin ppl of other tribes, coz dey fink others r inferior 2 em, wen few centuries b4, they got the same treatment @ the hands of khatris/brahmins. AS sikhs, guys, lets jus loww all this caste./tribe tatti, n jus say we r sikhs, n ready 2 defend n die 4 1 anotha. Now coz of this macho-type superior presentation jatts give out, now u c chamars, shuttin down the entire doaba, 2 sing "putt chamaran de". wens this all gona halt? each n every tribe has given special ppl towards the panth. Jassa Singh ramgharia, maharaja ranjit singh, hari singh nalwa, Jassa singh ahluwalia, Banda Singh Bahadur, bacchitar singh etc, all from diffrnt tribes. rant over sorry "das guruka" i kno i went off on a tangent, but it jus came out, n i typed it.

i think ur confusing dara siaaaaa with dharmendra. veerindra was his cousin, not randhawas!

LOOOOOL u taking the mick mate? I have heard straight from muslim mouths telling me, how the saudis/arabs HATE pakistanis/indians/Bangalis muslims, especially during hajj. Recently at a wedding i met an arab from dubai, n he told me sub continent muslims r known by a 2 lettered comment, "CC" = Conquered & Converted (reference 2 mughals/turks invaders)! During Hajj,the saudi trains have "arabs only" written on them. Oh not to forget how women get touched up there (even heard this re-itterated on nihals bbc show last week). Also whilst we r on the subject, how the failed Prophet, mohammed, used 2 apparantly have black slaves, so they have prejudices too mate, not sayin that makes it right for us 2 have these dumb divisions, but muslims r no angels during hajj.

LEGEND! Cudda done more for our community, but o well wen they get rich/famous they ALL forget where they came from.

kidda Hayes walia, yea man marathas were quite militant in the south, but sikhs did save brahmin backsides up north

Balle balle

hey guys any1 whos suffereing from some sort of mental health/anxiety, theres a sikh doctor, Gulbag singh, whos coming on nihalsbbc asian network show now. sky channel 0119 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kdtjt

bro PM the video too, cheers.

Haha ok, speakin of rougher areas, EAST london wins, hands down!!

tbh bro, b4 ladli-fauj has come on here with the future-plan, in my reckoning, china HATES india, n vice versa. So my thinkin was, if china provided assistance 2 sikhs in panjab, 2 break away from india, it wud b like killin 2 birds with 1 stone. kinda like india is supportin balochis in pakistan with weapons/aid/money.

yea back at u bro, ive been cussed on here so many times by ppl sayin, that judgin by my text/language, i struggle with the english language??? Errm no, its called slang, also i dont come from a posh middle class families like most of the pappus in r community, some of us r from rougher areas n working class.

bedfordshire my old fridge freezer.

woah that gyangan maharishi is bhindrawale i presume. Also regarding this, u say shaheedi fauj will be there, dont tell me that sikhs will have 2 save india, AGAIN, n the hindus/india will get all the praise for it, or will sikhs finaly make a stamp? Coz i duno if i understand this fully, but if the nishan sahib will be in delhi again, then will the "Great political party" that will be finished, is that the congress? also wat will become of pakistan in ur opinion? will this mean we get a chance 2 claim west panjab again? cheers btw, ur contribution, is much appreciated, and sorry if i sound dumb, coz i never really looked into this stuff before. safe

LOL i always target november- december

thanks bro, is atari the wagah/amritsar border right? lol bro im mid 20's, u seriously rekon this cud happen soon? wat time u finkin?

agreed the yugoslav partition was jus disgusting, but mr shamshere we come from the most violent part of the world, its kinda like a cycle i reckon, that genocides or deaths in large number seem 2 re-occur again. I think if we want independance, blood will have 2 be spilt, again, coz we have had our genocide from 1978-1995, where 250,000 sikhs have been killed, their Qurbanis, cannot b wasted. Tbh regarding living there straight away, i dont kno, i havnt really thought about that, but ive always considered that regardless of whether we get independance or not, i will move 2 panjab wen im like 50+yrs old. Im sick of livin in this joke of a country.

@ladli-fauj, thanks for that, ive seen this, i believe its in dasam granth right? In ur opinion will this event be a welcome for those who want independance n khalsa raj, or will this be that sikhs will have 2 play the heroes on india's behalf again? Coz chinas meddling will suit sikhs, but again ive heard that the 96crores will come 2 fruition or am i mixing times n events up? cheers

well done for coming up with the classic chestnut line. If a sikh knows nothing bowt the whole khalistan issue, hes considered a coconut, if a sikh wud rather b with india, then hes considered a sellout (which they are) and if sikhs shout for khalistan, they get taunted with "r u gonna go there n fight", u jus cant win. Well my answer 2 ur question is, yes! im not married, grew up in a rough area, so i would like 2 think so. also u say khalistan wont happen, well who thought during the 1980's, mazboot yugoslavia wud break up? considering the combined states within it had 4th strongest army in the world. 10 years later, slovenia, croatia, bosnia n serbia etc broke into their respective ethnic nations. Who would of thought the powerful, shot callin, soviet union would break up? who would of thought that 20-30 yrs after the sikhs had the big holocaust in 1800's @ the hands of the afghans, that we wud wrestle panjab off them and establish sikhs as rulers of lahore? Too many lives have been lost in the 70s/80s/90s and too much lahoo/blood has been spilt to turn back now. 500,000 Sarbat khalsa in 1986 anounced that its khalistan thats been declared as the aim of our kaum at akal takht for the future.

if sikhs had any brains they wud take chinas side. thats y pakistan to stay on the safe side, let china take eastern parts of kashmir (Aksai Chin), coz if they take panga with china, pakistan wud get eaten alive, any1 wud, jus look @ the americans in the korean war. If Khalistan is ever 2 b made, sikhs must ally with china n pakistan, and then u have Khalistan/pakistan/china bullying india into submission. thats my opinion anyway, n i suppose im not the only one.

thats wat i wud like 2 know aswell, it was a GREAT GREAT show. one of the singhs in the 1st 10 mins summed up the essence of anand karaj n why a non-sikh by taking part in 1, wud make a mockery of it. By the way @Singh559 did u watch it?

http://www.panthkhal...aj/raj_1947.php read it. theres probably other sources, but i cant b asked 2 find em, ive discused this 2 the limit so many times, its boring now to be honest. like i said before rather than carrying on with this thead, u shud jus search for older threads on khalistan n re-start them threads, oh n read through em 2. if u did, u wudda found the link ive given. safe