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5th June 1984 The firing and counter-firing continued. Harcharan Singh Ragi saw his guardian and mentor - the old completely blind Head Ragi of the Golden Temple, Amrik Singh being shot by a bullet and dying inside the Harmandir Sahib at about 6.30 a.m . on June 5. This was the respect shown by the Indian Army to the Harmandir Sahib! The White Paper issued on July 10, 1984 adopts a holier-than-thou attitude - "Specific Orders were given to troops to use minimum force, to show the utmost reverence to all holy places and to ensure that no desecration or damage was done to the Harmandir Sahib..." (Para 10) and once more "In spite of this (machine-gun fire from Harmandir Sahib on the night of June 5) the troops exercised great restrain and refrained from directing any fire at Harmandir Sahib." All this is propaganda. We have recorded the truth - the Harmandir Sahib was fired at by the C.R.P. on June 1 and there were 34 bullet marks on it which were shown to Mark Tully of the B.B.C. the next day. When the Army attacked the Golden Temple at dawn on June 4, the Harmandir Sahib was the target of destructive shelling and on June 5 two Ragis - one Amrik Singh, blind, 65-year-old - a singer of devotional songs and another Avtar Singh were killed by bullets right inside the Harmandir Sahib. Perhaps the White Paper was doing an exercise in sarcasm and irony when it stated: "the troops exercised great restraint and refrained from directing any fire at Harmandir Sahib." Meanwhile, the girl student and her companions had managed to come away from the Harmandir Sahib, crawling on their stomachs across the small bridge. They were bundled into a room on the ground floor of the Akal Takht. They kept sitting there, having nothing to eat and no water to drink. To continue, in her own words, "Helicopters were encircling the Temple from above. After the helicopters completed their circle, at about 11:30 a.m. on June 5, the huge water tank inside the Temple complex was fired at. The tank could not be broken even after the initial 10 shells hit the tank. Then one bomb hit the tank after which it burst and all the water gushed out. The fighters who had taken their positions beneath the tank were killed. "They continued the firing till the evening of June 5 and then it was about 8.30 p.m. It was completely dark when they entered accompanied by very heavy firing. The blasting was so severe that I thought that I had reached some other world. "We were 40-50 persons huddled together in the room, including women and children, even a child of six months. In the next room were the pilgrims who had come on June 3 to celebrate Guru Parb but they had been trapped." "The upper portion of the Akal Takht had been fired at by the Army and completely destroyed. Pieces of the Guru Granth Sahib were flying in the air and littering the ground. The place seemed to have been transformed into a haunted house. "Then the tank entered. It had powerful searchlights. I thought the ambulance had come to attend to the dead and injured. But it had turned out the opposite. The tanks went riding past us. From the tanks the announcement came, loud and clear: "Please come out, God's blessings are with you. We will reach you home absolutely safe and sound," There were some among us who were frantic for some water, they came out in the open. In the morning I saw the dead bodies lying on the Parikrama. This was the worst kind of treachery." The A.I.S.S.F. Members narration of the events of June 5 has a somewhat different emphasis - less personal reflection and more of detached observation. On June 5th at about 8 p.m. the Army entered the Complex through the Ghanta Ghar side under heavy cover fire. The road was blocked. Nobody was allowed to come out of the Complex. The Army entry was not preceded by any warning of announcement asking the people to surrender. "There was some stray firing from inside the Golden Temple before the Army entry into the Complex. But the real resistance began only after the Army entered the Temple. The order from Bhindranwale was to use limited firearms with discretion. There were only about 100 people to fight and there were less that 100 arms consisting mostly of .303 rifles used in the World War II, 315 guns and a few stenguns. When the army entered, the ammunition was nearly exhausted. "After mid-night, at about 1 a.m. one armoured carrier and 8 tanks came inside the complex. The tanks had powerful searchlights and they came down the stair-case, and the Army surrounded the langar building." Even 11 months afterwards, we could still see the marks of the tanks on the Parikrama. Duggal's account is also informative. By the evening of June 5, he and his family had managed to move to the house of the Giani Sahib Singh, the head priest of Golden Temple, which is about 25 yards away from the house he had earlier taken shelter in. In Duggal's words, "The night between the 5th and 6th was terrible. The tanks and armoured carriers had entered the Golden Temple Complex. The firing was such, that its ferocity cannot be described. In the early hours of June 6th, we learnt that the holy Akal Takht had been completely demolished in the firing. As devoted Sikhs, we were extremely shocked. Tears flowed through the eyes of everybody there. All through the night we heard the heart rending cries of the dying persons." Giani Puran Singh, a priest at the Harmandir Sahib also an eye-witness remembers - "At 7.30 p.m. on 5th I went to Sri Akal Takht where I met Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale with who I had a long satisfying talk while shots were ringing outside. Gyani Mohan Singh, whose duty was to conduct REHRAS (Evening Prayer) had not been able to reach Harmandir Sahib, due to the shooting. I then came down from the Akal Takht and joined some "Singhs" in a morcha and enquired of them whether Gyani Mohan Singh had passed that way. As per the tradition the 'Rehras' at Akal Takht starts 5 minutes later than at the Harmandir Sahib, but that day Path at the Akali Takht had already started. Upon this I rushed towards Harmandir Sahib amidst gunfire, stopping for a breather at the Darshani Deori. On reaching I started the recitation. Meanwhile, Gyani Mohan Singh also reached the place. We were about 22 people in the Harmandir Sahib, some devotees and others the employees of the Gurudwara. By the time the path was over the firing outside became more intense. 'Sukhasan' of Guru Granth Sahib was done and then taken upstairs. At 10.00 p.m. the tanks started entering the complex and a barrage of shooting from without became more intense as heavy armour began to be used. At this stage an armoured carrier entered and stood beside the Sarovar. The lights on the carrier, when switched on, bathed the whole complex in bright light. We were viewing all this perched in the main dome of Harmandir Sahib and thought that probably the fire brigade had come to get water for extinguishing fires raging throughout the city. But we were proved wrong when this vehicle came down to the Parikrama and stared firing. From both sides the tanks started closing in, from clock tower to the Brahm Buta the tanks set fire to all rooms while desperate people collected water from the Sarovar to extinguish the fires. Loud cries and wails of both women and children filled the air. A vigorous battle ensued and the Darshani Deoris of Clock Tower and Atta Mandi along with the Serais (rest houses) was in Army control by 10 o'clock, the next day (June 6). The 40-50 youth who had been holding the forces fought bravely till either they were killed or the ammuniton was exhausted. From about 10 in the night till 4.30 the next morning we were on the roof of Darbar Sahib." 2. OFFICIAL VERSION - FACT OR FICTION? These accounts of what happened at the Golden Temple on June 5 are in marked contrast to the white paper or the army's common charge sheet to the 379 alleged 'terrorists' captured from Golden Temple now detained under N.S.A. at Jodhpur. According to the White Paper: " All Commanders were instructed to continuously use the public address systems for a number of hours at every suspected hideout of terrorists to give themselves up in order to prevent bloodshed and damage to holy places before the use of force for their apprehension." Was this actually done? Our eye-witness accounts prove that it was not. Regarding the Golden Temple, the White Paper is also specific, "During the afternoon and evening of June 5 1984 repeated appeals were made to the terrorists over the public address system to lay down their arms and surrender and to others inside the Temple to come out, to prevent avoidable bloodshed and damage to structures in the Temple Complex. In response to this appeal 129 men, women and children came out and they were handed over to the civil authorities." Is it possible to believe this version? We have seen how the Army started shelling the Golden Temple without any warning or public announcement from the early hours of June 4. They continued this firing throughout June 4 and 6. The militants also fired in reply but they were no match, either in terms of numbers of men or in amounts of ammunition. How could the Army make 'repeated appeals' during the afternoon and evening of June 5 when intense fighting was going on and how could 120 person come out during this raging battle? The Army's version, as revealed by its chargesheet to the 379 alleged 'terrorists' detained at Jodhpur Jail, is even more incredible. On June 5, when they were supposed to have been deputed for duty outside the Golden Temple, the Army had the information that "the extremists/terrorists led by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale had collected men, arms, ammunitions and explosives within the Golden Temple and had also made other preparations to wage war against the Government of India with the intention to establish a State independent of the Government of India to be known as Khalistan". Or in other words, Khalistan was to be established at the Golden Temple and if the A.I.S.S.F. member is to be believed, by about 100 fighters equipped mostly with 303 decrepit guns of the II World War, a few 315 rifles and some stenguns. S. S. Bhagowalia an advocate at Gurdaspur and Vice President of the Associtation for Democratic Rights (A.F.D.R. Punjab) investigated and found that Bhindranwale's supporters numbered no more that 140-150. It is strange that the White Paper has nothing to say about the Khalistan flag - a country without a flag! But the White Paper says that Khalistan was to be established at the Golden Temple. According to the Army's chargsheet and also the White Paper, in response to the Army's repeated appeals to the Terrorists to lay down their arms and surrender, they opened intensive firing from inside the Complex. "They were shouting anti-national slogans." This was a battle not a demonstration. How could 'terrorists' engage in shouting anti-national slogans at a time when they were allegedly using automatic and semi-automatic weapons, grenades, explosives, etc? Even if they did shout these slogans how could the slogans be heard over the noise of rattling stenguns and automatic rifles? The White Paper also describes how the library was allegedly gutted on the night between June 5 and 6 - "Troops were able to enter the area around the Sarovar through the northern deori and the Southern library building. Terrorists were in control of the Library building and fired from there. At this stage, the library caught fire - the Army fire brigade was rushed but their attempts were failed by the machine-gun fire from the terrorists." A perfect brief for the Army! But according to Duggal who was in charge of the Sikh Reference Library and who cared for it, the Library was intact when he last saw it on June 6, evening while leaving the Temple Complex. However, he was in for a terrible shock when he was brought back to the Temple complex by the Army on June 14. Let us listen to Duggal's tale of sorrow as well as courage: "On 14th June 1984 I was arrested by the Army and taken inside the Golden Temple, where I was shocked to see that the Sikh Reference Library had been burnt. The entire Golden Temple Complex presented a very, very painful look. It bore at least 3 lakhs of bullet marks. The Akal Takht was in shambles. Guru Nanak Nivas, Teja Singh Samundri Hall, Guru Ram Das Serai and the langar buildings had been burnt. When I left the Complex on 6th all those buildings were in good shape in spite of the Army Attack, Taken to the Library's ruins, I was asked by the Army Col. to take charge of the Library. I asked him as to where is the Library. He said that I had no option but to sign a typed receipt to the effect that I have taken over the charge of the Library. I refused to oblige him saying that I would not tell such a big lie." The White Paper is very emphatic the "Troops were particularly instructed not to wear any leather items in holy places and to treat all apprehended person with dignity and consideration." What was the reality? The reality was this:-

4th June 1984 Duggal's recollection are vivid, almost photographic. "At about 4 a.m. in the early hours of the morning of June 4, the regular Army attack on the temple started with a 25-pounder which fell in the ramparts of the Deori to the left o f Akal Takht Sahib with such a thunder that for a few moments I thought that the whole complex had collapsed. I along with my wife were then sitting in the verandah of my house adjacent to the Sikh Reference Library. Recovering from the initial shock, we moved into the room and took shelter in one of its corners. Thereafter, every second the ferocity of firing increased and it continued unabated till the evening of the 6th June. As we were on the first floor, and our quarter was open on all sides our position was very vulnerable. The bullets hit our quarters on all sides and some of them pierced through the doors and landed inside the room. To add to our miseries the power and water supplies had been cut. Through a slit in the shutter of a window we saw a large number of dead bodies in the Parikrama of the Golden Temple. They included women and children. We could not leave our room. Coming out in the open would have exposed us to sure death." Baldev Kaur's account of how the Army attack began is similar - "Very early on June 4, while it was dark, there was cannon fire from outside the Golden Temple without any warning. Shots were fired from all sides." Bhan Singh is emphatic that no warning was given, no public announcement was made by the Army before the shelling of the Golden Temple started on June 4 - "had the army given a warning at least those pilgrims who had come for the Guru Parb could go out and then those person who were simply here to participate in the Dharam Yudh Morcha could go out. But no warning was given to the people. The firing was started from all around the complex with vengeance; as if they were attacking on alien enemy country." According to the girl student, the shelling started at about 20 minutes past 4 o'clock on June 4 dawn and continued without interruption up to 2 o'clock in the afternoon of that day (June 4), and evening of June 5. Her account is extremely graphic - On June 4 at about 3:30 a.m. we were inside the Harmandir Sahib reciting our prayers. Suddenly, there was a black-out in the whole of the Golden Temple complex. The devotees continued to be immersed in worship. At about 20 minutes past 4 o'clock there was a very loud explosion. We felt that the whole of the Golden Temple complex was shaking. I was alone on the balcony overlooking the lake or sarovar. Suddenly something roundish fell in front of me. I was curious. So I gently touched it and pushed it into the water. As it fell, there was a big noise and then the water rose and splashed into the Harmandir Sahib. I started reeling, once tilting on one side and again on the other. Someone pulled me inside. The explosions continued. We then realized that the Army's attack on the Golden Temple had begun." In a flash she described her companions - "Inside the Harmandir Sahib there were about 50 to 60 persons - some granthis (priests), ragis (singers), sevadars (employees), the rest of them yatris (pilgrims or visitors) like me and my family. I did not see any armed terrorist." The Army fired from all sides and did not spare any target in the Temple complex which seemed to shelter people. According to Prithipal Singh, the Sevadar on duty at Akal Rest House, deep inside the Guru Ram Das Serai, the Akal Rest House was shelled from the side of Gali Bagh Wali (to the left of the main entrance from the side on chowk Ghanta Ghar) at 5 a.m. on June 4. The bullet marks on the walls, the doors, and windows of the side rooms of the Akal Rest House bore silent testimony to the Sevadars story, as we listened to him in May, 1985, almost one year after the shooting. The Harmandir Sahib was not spared by the Army on June 4, just as it had not been by the C.R.P. on June 1. According to the girl student, bullets hissed past her and her grandmother and aunt when they crawled across the bridge on their stomachs in their bid to escape from Harmandir Sahib. She managed to pick up a portion of a shell which had exploded on the bridge near Harmandir Shaib - it was marked 84 mm., and it had two colours, yellow on the upper part and blue on the lower part. Baldev Kaur's account suggests that there was no immediate counter-fire from inside the Golden Temple complex. The A.I.S.S.F. member said that "there was some stray firing from inside the Golden Temple before the Army's entry into the complex" ;. The girl student provides a comparative picture of the magnitude and intensity of firing from outside the Temple and from inside. "The firing that took place from inside the Golden Temple was negligible. On June 1, there was absolutely no firing from inside. Whereas on June 4, the ratio was something like this - if a thousand rounds were being fired by the Army from outside, then about one or one and a half rounds were fired in reply by the armed militants from inside the Temple complex." Meanwhile, according to Duggal, "the helicopter hovered above and continued to fire from above. Some of these helicopters also guided the firing squads of the Army by making a circle of light around the targets. Immediately after these circles, the cannon bell would land on the target causing havoc. We saw a large number of boys blown to pieces." According to Bhan Singh, "they (the Army) treated the inmates of the Complex as enemies and whenever there was any person wounded on account of the firing, no Red Cross people were allowed to enter, rather the Red Cross personnel had been detained beyond the Jallianwallah Bagh," - more that a kilometre away from the main entrance to the Golden Temple from the Chowk Ghanta Ghar side. In accordance with the U.N. Charter of Human Rights, the Red Cross is permitted to go in aid of the wounded right inside the enemy territory, but in Amritsar in June 1984 the Red Cross was not allowed to enter the Golden Temple - a respected and hallowed part of our country- in aid of Indians under attack from the Indian army. It only means that the attack was so brutal and the battle scene so grisly, that there was much to hide from the public scrutiny, even if it be that of a neutral agency called the Red Cross. This also explains perhaps why Press Censorship had already been imposed, the last of the journalists were hounded away and the Press was not allowed inside the Golden Temple up to June 10 when they were taken on a guided tour of the Complex for the first time since the Army Operations began almost a week before.

3rd June 1984 According to the AISSF member, "Guru Parb was on June 3. About 10,000 people had come from outside including many women and 4000 of them were young people. Those who were inside were not allowd to go out after 10 p.m. on June 3. The Jathas which had come mainly from Sangrur were not allowed to court arrest." Bhan Singh confirms: "June 3 being Guru Parb, thousands of pilgrims had come. But suddenly there was a curfew, so the pilgrims and the 1300 Akali workers came to participate in the Dharam Yudh Morcha and to court arrest, could not leave. The Akali Jathas consisted of about 200 ladies, 18 children and about 1100 men and all of them along with the thousands of pilgrims were forced to stay back inside the Temple complex. Most were living in Guru Ram Das Serai, some at Teja Singh Samundri Hall." The girl student remembers, "On June 3, at 6 o'clock in the evening we came to know that Punjab had been sealed for 48 hours and that even cycles would not be allowed on the streets." Kanwaljit Singh sent a telegram home to Delhi at 8.05 p.m. on June 3 from the Golden Temple Post Office "Coming after curfew". It means that the curfew was 'reimposed' (Duggal's word) between 8.05 p.m. and 10 p.m. No one inside the Golden Temple had yet realised the sinister plan of the authoritites. Punjab had been sealed. Thousands of pilgrims and hundreds of Akali workers had been allowed to collect inside the Temple complex. They had been given no inkling or warning either of the sudden curfew or of the imminent Army attack. It was to be a Black Hole-type of tragedy, not out of forgetfulness but out of deliberate planning and design.

2nd June 1984 Duggal was relieved when "fortunately, on 2nd June a team of five reporters including Mark Tully of B.B.C. came there (Golden Temple) and were told the truth . They were taken around the Golden Temple and shown 34 big wounds caused by the bullets on all sides of the Harmandir Sahib, some of them as big as almost 3" in diameter." "The 2nd June passed off peacefully," according to Duggal, because there was no firing and no curfew, while Baldev Kaur said it was 'quiet'. A large number of Sikhs came to the Golden Temple from the surrounding areas along with their familie s as the next day, June 3, was Guru Parb or the martyrdom day of Shri Guru Arjan Dev, the fifth holy Guru of the Sikhs. The peace and quiet was only on the surface, because active preparations were afoot to break the peace. Kanwaljit Singh and his friend Manjit Singh from Delhi visited Golden Temple on the morning of June 2 and found that there there was no restriction for pilgrims to enter Amritsar or even the Temple. But the exit doors out ot Amritsar were being closed. After visiting the Temple, when Kanwaljit went at noon to the Amritsar Railway Station to catch a train for Delhi, they were told that the last train had already left and that the Flying Mail in the evening would not be leaving. In fact they were told all outgoing trains had been cancelled. So Kanwaljit and Manjit were forced to return to the Golden Temple and put up in the Guru Ram Das Serai for the n ight. Thus was Kanwaljit to miss his interveiw at Delhi with the Institute of Bank Management on June 3 morning and his examination with the State Bank of India the same afternoon. The AISSF young man said that the C.R.P., outside the Golden Temple was replaced by Army on the night of June 2. Although there was no formal curfew, and all visitors entering the Temple were allowed to come in without any ado, all those who left the G olden Temple on the night of June 2 were being taken into custody. "I did not therefore leave the Golden Temple complex", said the A.I.S.S.F. member revealing his caution

1st June 1984 Piecing together the evidence of various eye-witness and also second-hand socurces, such as Kirpal Singh, President of the Khalsa Dewan, Amritsar and S.S. Bhagowalia, advocate at Gurdaspur and Vicepresident for the Association for Protection of Democratic Rights (Punjab), the following picture emerges as to what happened at Golden Temple from June 1, 1984. It is really amazing how, except for some minor details, the accounts of different persons interviewed separately tally so closely with regard to the date, the time and the description of incident June 1, 1984. The AISSF Member, Duggal, the girl student, Sevadar Prithipal Singh and Baldev Kaur all said the the Golden Temple was fired at by security forces from the outside for the first time on June 1 itself, not June 5 as claimed by the White Paper. According to the AISSF member, "At 14.40 in the afternoon of June 1, suddenly the CRP without provocation started firing, aiming at the people inside the Parikarmas. There was no firing, from inside the Golden Temple. The firing by the C.R.P. was on the Harmandir Sahib and the Manjih Sahib. The firing continued till about 8 p.m." Sevadar Prithipal Singh added that the shooting which started from outside, was not preceded by any warning. Devinder Singh Duggal's account is extremely detailed and lucid. "By the end of May, it was widely known that the Army is going to attack the Golden Temple, and on that account there was tremendous tension in the entire city and its surrounding ar eas. The worst fears of the people came to the surface when on 1st June, the security forces which had beseiged the Golden Temple for months together and had made strong fortification on the multistorey buildings all around it, suddenly started firing in side the Golden Temple. The firing sarted at 12.30 p.m. and continued for a full 7 hours. What was worse was that Harmandir Sahib was made the main target of this firing. I took shelter along with my staff behind the steel almirahs of the Library, one of the bullets pierced through three almirahs and landed on the fourth and we had a narrow escape." Duggal continues - "Not a single shot was fired from inside the complex. When I asked some of the boys as to why they did not answere the firing, they replied that they were under strict orders of the Sant not to fire a single shot unless and unti ll the security forces or the Army entered the holy Golden Temple. In the evening, when I heard in the news bulletin that there was unprovoked firing from inside the Temple, but that the security forces showed extreme restrain and did not fire a single sh ot, I was surprised at this naked lie. The very fact that as many as eight persons, includeing a woman and a child had been killed inside the Golden Temple complex and there were as many as 34 big bullet wounds on all sides of the Harmandir Sahib complete ly belied the Government's version. I asked Bhan Singh, Secretary, S.G.P.C., to do something to refute this falsehood. He said that nothing could be done because all links with the outside world had been snapped." According to the girl student, curfew was clamped soon after the firing started. She confirmed the killings - "Authorities had said none had died, but I dressed the wounds of 3 men who died later in front me in Guru Nanak Nivas." That the cur few was lifted soon after the firing stopped is indicated by the AISSF member, who said, "after the firing stopped, at about 8.30 p.m., a group of people (Jatha) courted arrest." There is no doubt then that security forces (C.R.P.) fired on the Harmander Sahib on June 1 itself and the news over the A.I.R. that there was unprovoked firing from inside was a blatant lie. However, most official versions maintain a meaningful silenc e about the happenings of June 1. For them, as for example, with the Government's White Paper, the story begins on June 2 with the Government of India deciding to call in the Army in aid of civil authority in Punjab, with the object of "checking and controlling extermist, terrorist and communal vioulence in Punjab, providing security to the people and restore normalcy." How much security the Army succeeded in providing to the people and how much normalcy, they were able to restore, is however, another matter. Taken from Operation Bluestar: Untold Story

i agree, this doesn't sound right, why would neeta claim responsibility for the attack and condradict bki given the fact that neeta is apparently in lahore, where wadhawa singh also is - and all of them are networked with each other. and how come of all a sudden kzf has come out of its dormant state and claimed an attack like this in far away vienna, something which doesn't fit in with their usual tactics of attacks in only punjab, jammu and delhi (during early 90s).

Please complain to the BBC regarding the below article http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml Here is what i sent to them, 'I would like to complain about the grossly inaccurate coverage of the incident in Vienna and subsequent riots in Punjab. Your article states that a 'Sikh Guru' was killed. However in Sikhism, the present Guru is our Holy scriptures, known as Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Secondly you have mentioned that the violence was between higher and lower caste Sikhs. But Sikhism does not advocate the caste system. The group concerned in the incident, belong to the Ravidassi sect who have split from mainstream Sikhism. The person killed was revered as a Saint by the Ravidassi sect. I hope that you will promptly research and amend the inaccuracies in your coverage of recent events, in order to avoid offending the sentiments of the global Sikh community.' Riots have broken out in almost all towns and cities in the Indian state of Punjab after a Sikh guru was killed by a rival group in a temple in Austria. Thousands of angry protesters have taken to streets, damaging public property and setting trains on fire. At least four people were injured when police opened fire at protesters who attacked a police station in Jalandhar. The army has marched through the streets of Jalandhar city and a curfew is in place in four major towns. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has appealed for calm. Guru Sant Ramanand was attacked on Sunday in Vienna - during clashes at a religious ceremony - by six men armed with knives and a pistol. Whatever the provocation, it is important to maintain peace and harmony among different sections of the people He succumbed to his wounds in hospital early Monday. Another preacher Sant Nirajnan Dass, who was among 15 other people injured, is said to be stable. Both the preachers were from a low-caste Sikh sect which has a large following in parts of Punjab and had travelled to Vienna to conduct a special service. The BBC's Sanjoy Majumder, in Delhi, says several high caste Sikh groups had apparently opposed his presence and threatened violence. Bonfire Thousands of protesters carrying swords, steel rods and sticks are out on the streets in almost all major towns and cities, reports the BBC's Asit Jolly in Chandigarh, capital of Punjab state. At least four trains have been attacked All major highways are blocked by bonfires of tyres and sticks, and all main railways stations in the state are deserted, our correspondent says. Police say a large showroom of Hyundai motors has been completely destroyed and trains have been attacked in at least four places. Police said they fired at rioting mobs in two places in Jalandhar after coming under attack. At least four people were wounded, they said. The army and police have marched through the streets of Jalandhar and police say they have arrested six people for arson. A curfew has been imposed in the cities of Jalandhar, Phagwara, Hoshiarpur and Ludhiana. The Delhi-Lahore bus has been stopped near the town of Ludhiana as a precautionary measure. Violent demonstrations have also been reported in the towns of Amritsar, Patiala, Ferozepur, Bathinda and Nawanshahr. 'Distressed' Chief Minister of Punjab Prakash Singh Badal has called an all-party meeting on Tuesday and PM Manmohan Singh has appealed for calm. "I am deeply distressed by the outbreak of violence in Punjab following certain incidents in Vienna, Austria." Mr Singh said in a statement. "Whatever the provocation, it is important to maintain peace and harmony among different sections of the people." Mr Singh, a Sikh, said that Sikhism preached tolerance and harmony. Guru Sant Ramanand and Sant Niranjan Dass were attacked on Sunday in Vienna. Eyewitnesses said fundamentalist Sikhs from a higher caste attacked the preachers, who, they believed, were disrespectful of the Sikh holy book. Police spokesman Michael Takacs said the scene was "like a battlefield". Six people have been detained, and more arrests were possible. Several hundred worshippers were at the temple at the time of the attack. The temple is situated in Vienna-Rudolfsheim, in the 15th district of the capital. It is estimated that fewer than 3,000 Sikhs live in Austria. The Rudolfsheim temple is run by devotees of Shri Guru Ravidas, who founded the Dera Sach Khand sect. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8066783.stm

The police investigate on an evidential basis and should be following all leads. While the protest may be a good idea for some, the only thing it might accomplish is for a politician to write a letter to the Chief Supt (who covers the area which Bow falls under) to put more pressure on the inquiry. But saying that, the DS in charge of the investigation issued a press release giving an update to the Sikh community on this investigation. This was posted by khalistan-zindabad on this forum not so long ago. The supposed 'protest' on the 24th May 2009 which is apparently being organised by the dodgy committee will not get any numbers as the sangat will be attending the sanskaar of Maharaaj's ashes. So rather than organising protests, for the time being it might be better just to contact the police/politicians through emails, letters, phone calls. Local area http://cms.met.police.uk/met/boroughs/tower_hamlets/index Local neighbourhood team http://www.met.police.uk/teams/towerhamlets/bowwest/ Local MP http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/constitu...arch/l/bow.html

the local naujawan are organising the jaap. as for the rally, the main ppl in the committee are congressi and not pro- movement, so i hope that answers your question!

The following Gurdwaras have confirmed their committment and transport to the rememberance march and rally on June 7th - Hyde Park London. Please encourage the others to do the same. Gurdwara Yaadgar Baba Deep Singh Ji Shaheed 4 Holyhead Road, Handsworth, Birmingham, West Midlands B21 0LT 0121 554 803 Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara And Community Centre 21 Mary Street, Balsall Heath, Birmingham, West Midlands B12 9RN 0121 440 2358 Guru Nanak Gurdwara Stratford Road, Sparkhill, South Birmingham B11 Guru Ram Dass Singh Sabha Gurdwara 95 Moseley Road, Balsall Heath, Birmingham, West Midlands B12 9BX Ramgharia Sikh Temple 6-9 Graham Street, Birmingham, West Midlands B1 3LA 0121 236 5435 Singh Sabha Akaal Darbar 21-527 & 535-537 Park Road, Hockley, Birmingham, West Midlands B18 5TR Guru Nanak Gurdwara 28-130 High Street, Smethwick, Warley, West Midlands B66 3AP 0121 558 2527 0121 555 5926 Guru Nanak Gurdwara Well Lane, Wednesfield, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV11 1XT Guru Nanak Sikh Temple This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Duncan Street Off Sedgley Street, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV2 3JA 01902 459413 01902 459933 Gurdwara Guru Nanak Parkash 65-67 Walsall Road, Willenhall, Walsall, West Midlands WV13 2RD 01902 605286 Gurdwara Guru Har Rai Sahib 126-128 High Street, West Bromwich, West Midlands B70 6JW 0121 525 3275 Gurdwara Nanaksar 4 Wellington Street, Pleck, Walsall, West Midlands 01922 641040 Guru Nanak Sikh Temple 8 Edward Street, West Bromwich, West Midlands B70 8NP 0121 553 1242 Gurdwara Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Twydale Works Unit 1, Dudley Road West, Tividale, Warley, West Midlands B69 3DU 0121 522 4828 Gurdwara Nanak Parkash This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 71/81 Harnall Lane West, Foleshill, Coventry, West Midlands CV2 2GJ Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha 47-49 Cross Road, Coventry, West Midlands CV6 5GR Guru Nanak Sikh Temple Prospect Hall, Wakefield Road, Bradford, West Yorkshire BD4 7DS 01274 723557 Guru Nanak Gurdwara Prospect Street, Huddersfield, West Yorkshire HD1 4HU Gurdwara Kalgidhar Sahib Bhatra Sanghat 138 Chapeltown Road, Leeds, West Yorkshire LS7 4EE The Sikh Temple 192 Chapeltown Road, Leeds, West Yorkshire LS7 3JT 0113 262 9073 Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara 2-8 Park Avenue, Southall, London UB1 3AG 020 8574 8901 Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Havelock Road, Southall, London UB2 4NP 020 8574 890 Sikh Missionary Society U.K. This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 10 Featherstone Road, Southall, London UB2 5AA 020 8574 1902 020 8574 1912 Gurdwara Singh Sabha - London East 100 North Street, Barking, London IG11 8JD 020 8594 3940 Gurdwara Singh Sabha - London East 722/730 High Road, Seven Kings, Ilford, London IG3 8SX Sri Guru Singh SabhaThis email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Alice Way, Hanworth Road, Hounslow, London TW3 3UA 020 8577 2793 Guru Nanak Gurdwara 9 Holybones, Leicester, Leicestershire LE1 4LJ 0116 251 7460 Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara 106 East Park Road, Leicester, Leicestershire LE5 4QB 0116 276 0517 Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara - Sikh Temple Clarence Place, Gravesend, Kent DA12 1LD 01474 534121 Guru Nanak Istri Sabha 158 Peartree Street, Derby, Derbyshire Guru Arjan Dev Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Stanhope Street, Derby, Derbyshire DE23 6QJ 01332 776872 Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara Sheehy Way, Waxham Court, Slough, Berkshire SL2 5SS 01753 531826 Ramgharia Gurdwara Woodland Avenue, Slough, Berkshire SL1 3BU 01753 525458 Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha 48 Kings Close, Watford, Hertfordshire WD1 8UB 01923 244058 01923 244650 Gurdwara Baba Zorawar Singh Ji Baba Fateh Singh Ji Phoenix Drive, Off Grafton Street (V6), Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire MK6 5LU 01908 231663 Updated poster..

The following Gurdwaras are still to confirm transport and commitment to the remembrance march and rally. Please encourage them to take part. Ramgarhia Sikh Temple 81-83 Chelsea Road, Easton, Bristol, BS5 6AS 0117 955 4929 Sangat Singh Sabha Gurdwara 11 Summerhill Road, St George, Bristol, BS5 8HG 0117 955 9333 Sri Guru Singh Sabha 301-303 Church Road, St George, Bristol, BS5 8AH 0117 954 0507 Shri Guru Nanak Prakash Singh Sabha (Bristol Sikh Temple) This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 71-75 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol, BS5 6SF +44 (0) 117 902 0104 Bedfordshire Guru Nanak Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 2A Dallow Road, Luton, Bedfordshire LU1 1LY 01582 721072 Guru Nanak Gurdwara 84 Ford End Road, Bedford, Bedfordshire MK40 4JX 01234 266531 Ramgharia Sikh Society Gurdwara 33-39 Ampthill Street, Bedford, Bedfordshire MK42 9BT 01234 304455 Ramgharia Sikh Temple 69 Victoria Road, Bedford, Bedfordshire MK42 9JR Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara 152-156 Bedford Road, Kempston, Bedford, Bedfordshire MK42 8EL Belfast Gurdwara Guru Nanak Sikh Community Association Belfast 162 Duncairn Gardens, Belfast, Northern Ireland BT15 2GN 028 9075 2353 Berkshire Guru Nanak Satsang Sabha 31 Rutland Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire SL6 4HZ 01628 780330 Ramgharia Sabha Reading 234 London Road, Earley, Reading, Berkshire RG6 1AH Sri Guru Singh Sabha 30a Cumberland Road, Reading, Berkshire RG1 3LB Sri Guru Gobind Singh Marg Gurdwara 76 Montague Road, Slough, Berkshire SL2 Buckinghamshire Gurdwara Amrit Parchar Dharmik Diwan (Sikh Temple) Brook Street, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire HP11 2EQ Ramgharia Sabha 10 Hadrians Drive, Bancroft, Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire MK13 0PP Cambridgeshire Gurudwara Baba Budha Sahib Ji Royce Road, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire PE1 Cambridge Sikh Society 17 Woodcock Close, Impington, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire CB4 9LD Cheshire Guru Nanak Gurdwara Dover Road, Latchford, Warrington, Cheshire WA4 1NB Cleveland Guru Nanak Gurdwara And Sikh Community Centre 31a Allensway, Thornaby, Stockton-On-Tees, Cleveland TS17 9HA 01642 760634 Sikh Temple 23 Lorne Street, Middlesbrough, Cleveland, TS1 5QY 01642 250125 Bhatra Sikh Temple 151 Southfield Road, Middlesbrough, Cleveland Derbyshire Ramgarhia Sabha Sikh Temple 14-16 St. James Road, Derby, Derbyshire DE23 8QX 01332 371811 Devon Guru Arjan Niwas Sikh Temple 46 Clifton Street, Exeter, Devon Durham Darlington Sikh Temple Louisa Street, Darlington, County Durham DL1 4ED 01325 250050 Guru Gobind Sikh Temple - Sunderland Sikh Association Ashbrooke Hall, The Cloisters, Sunderland, County Durham SR2 7ED 0191 5672939 Essex Sikh Temple 6 Maidstone Road, Grays Thurrock, Essex 01375 376086 Greater Manchester Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Gurdwara 15 Monton Street, Moss Side, Manchester M14 4GP 0161 226 1131 Sikh Temple 107 Halliwell Lane, Cheetham Hill Road, Manchester, M8 Gurdwara Dashmesh Darbar Sikh Temple 98 Heywood Street, Cheetham, Manchester, M8 0PS Shri Guru Singh Sabha Gurudwara 32 Derby Street, Manchester, M8 8RY 0161 832 2241 The Sikh Temple 61 Upper Chorlton, Whalley Range, Manchester, M16 7RQ 0161 226 7233 Dashmesh Sikh Temple 29 Esmond Road, Cheetham, Manchester Gurdwara Sri Guru HarKrishan Sahib Ji This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 12 Sherborne Street, Strangeways, Manchester M3 1FE 0161 832 6577 0161 835 2125 Hampshire Guru Nanak Gurdwara 207 Lower Brook Street, Basingstoke, Hampshire RG21 7RR Sikh Temple 4 King's Mill Road, Basingstoke, Hampshire RG21 3JE Singh Sabha Gurdwara Onslow Road, Cranberry Avenue, Southampton, Hampshire SO14 0LR Gurdwara Tegh Bahadur Sahib 7 St. Mark’s Road, Newtown, Southampton, Hampshire SO14 0FB Gurdwara Singh Sabha 128-130 Northumberland Road, Cranberry, Southampton, Hampshire SO14 0ER Gurdwara Nanaksar 3 Peterborough Road, Bevois Valley, Southampton, Hampshire SO14 6HY Guru Nanak Sar Gurdwara 5 Margate Road, Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO5 1EY Hertfordshire Nanaksar Thath Ishar Darbar 7 Gernon Walk, Letchworth, Hertfordshire SG6 3HW 01462 684153 Guru Nanak Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 37 Wilbury Way, Hitchin, Hertfordshire SG4 0TW 01462 431973 Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara 50 Wilbury Way, Hitchin, Hertfordshire SG4 0TP 01462 432993 Kent The Medway Towns Gurudwara Sabha Cossack Street, Rochester, Kent ME1 2EF 01634 849782 Sikh Temple 4 Milton Avenue, Gravesend, Kent DA12 1QL Sikh Sangat Gurdwara Sydney Road, Chatham, Kent ME4 5BR 01634 815934 Gurdwara Guru Hargobind Sahib 8-10 Highfield Road, Dartford, Kent DA1 2JJ Kent Ramgarhia Darbar Sikh Temple 63 Franklin Road, Gillingham, Kent ME7 4DG 01634 576618 Sri Guru Nanak Gurdwara - Sikh Temple Byron Road, Gillingham, Kent ME7 5QH 01634 333111 Lancashire Guru Nanak Cultural Recreation Centre And Sikh Gurdwara 2 - 10 Tunbridge Street, Preston, Lancashire PR1 5YP 01772 798395 Guru Nanak Gurdwara Bhatra Singh Sabha 2 Clarendon Street, Preston, Lancashire PR1 3YN 01772 251008 Sikh Temple 8 Culshaw Street, Blackburn, Lancashire BB1 1JF 01254 581965 Leicestershire Guru Amardas Gurdwara - Leicester Sikh Centre 219-227 Claredon Park Road, Leicester, Leicestershire LE2 3AN 0116 270 1705 Ramgarhia Board Gurdwara 51 Meynell Road, Leicester, Leicestershire LE5 3NE 0116 276 0765 Gurdwara Sahib - Sikh Temple 33-34 Clarence Street, Loughborough, Leicestershire LE11 1DY 01509 558027 Guru Nanak Khalsa 45 Lanesborough Road, Leicester, Leicestershire LE4 Lincolnshire Guru Nanak Gurdwara 41 Normandy Road, Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire DN15 6AS 01724 841361 Guru Nanak Sikh Temple 207/209 Frodingham Road, Crosby, Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire DN15 6AS 01724 861880 Lothian Region Sikh Temple 1 Mill Lane, Leith, Edinburgh Lothian EH6 6ZZ 0131 553 7202 London Edgware Gurdwara Waltham Drive, 28 Highlands, Edgware London HA8 Gurdwara Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha [uk] 134-142 Martindale Road, Hounslow, London TW4 7HQ 020 8570 4774 Sikh Art & Culture Centre 21 Montague Road, Hounslow, London TW3 1LG Sri Guru Singh Sabha 93 Waye Avenue, Cranford, London TW3 3UA Dashmesh Sat Sang Sabha 6 Evelyn Grove, Southall, London Guru Nanak Darbar 67 - 73 King Street, Southall, London UB2 4DQ Ramgharia Sabha Southall 53-57 Oswald Road, Southall, London UB1 1HN 020 8574 5635 020 8843 1167 Guru Amardas Gurmat Society & Education Centre 1a Clifton Road, Southall, London UB2 5QP 020 8571 1335 Guru Granth Gurdwara 45 Villiers Road, Southall, London UB1 3BS 020 8574 2898 Sikh Temple Nanak Darbar - North London 136 High Road, New Southgate, London N11 1PJ 020 8368 7104 Singh Sabha Gurdwara 68 Gloucester Drive, London N4 2LN 020 8800 9923 Gurdwara Sikh Sanghat 71 Francis Road, Leyton, London E10 6PL 020 8556 4732 Gurdwara Sikh Sanghat 1a Campbell Road, Bow, London E3 4DS 020 8980 2281 Brent Sikh Centre 241 Stag Lane, Kingsbury, P.O. Box 7657 London NW9 0EF 020 8206 1231 020 8991 2690 Central Gurdwara (Khalsa Jatha) London 62 Queensdale Road, Shepherd's Bush, London W11 4SG 020 7603 2789 Southfield Sikh Association 1 South Brook Road, Streatham, London SW16 Ramgarhia Sikh Association This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Masons Hill, Woolwich London SE18 6EJ 020 8854 1786 Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Old Mill Road, Plumstead, London SE18 Siri Guru Singh Sabha 74 Avarn Road, London SW17 Ramgharia Sikh Gurdwara 10-14 Neville Road, Forest Gate, London E7 9SQ 020 8471 0335 Gurdwara Baba Bhudha Sahib Ji 2 Shawbury Road, East Dulwich, London SE22 9DH 020 8693 1162 ashmesh Darbar Gurdwara 97-101 Rosebery Avenue, Manor Park, London E12 6PT 020 8471 2204 Guru Nanak Satsang Sabha Karamsar UK 400 High Road, Seven Kings, Ilford, London IG1 1TW 020 8478 8090 Greenwich Sikh Association - Woolwich Sikh Temple 1 Calderwood Street, Woolwich, London SE18 6QW 020 8854 4233 South London Sikh Gurdwara 142 Merton Road, Wandsworth, London SW18 5SP 020 8874 3518 Khalsa Centre 95 Upper Tooting Road, Upper Tooting, London SW17 7TW 020 8767 3196 Londonderry Sikh Gurdwara Hinton House, 1 Clooney Park West, Leith, Londonderry, County Londonderry BT47 7TB Merseyside Gurdwara & Sikh Community Centre Wellington Avenue, Liverpool, Merseyside L15 0EJ Northamptonshire Sri Guru Singh Sabha 23 - 25 King Street, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN16 8QP 01536 511447 Sri Guru Singh Sabha This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it 17 - 19 St. Georges Street, Northampton, Northamptonshire, NN1 2TN 01604 634641 Ramgarhia Board Sikh Gurdwara Community Centre 2 Craven Street, Northampton, Northamptonshire, NN1 3EZ Nottinghamshire Sikh Temple - Gurdwara Singh Sabha 26 Nottingham Road, Basford, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NG7 7AE 0115 962 2132 Guru Nanak Sat Sang Gurdwara 60-62 Forest Road West, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NG7 4EP 0115 978 1394 Ramgharia Sabha Nottingham 29-31 Percy Street, Basford, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NG6 0GF 0115 979 1595 0115 854 3871 Sikh Temple 36 Church Street, Lenton, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NG7 2FF Oxfordshire Banbury Gurdwara Sahib 43 West Street, Banbury, Oxfordshire 01295 265400 01295 266025 Sri Guru Singh Sabha 69 Cherwell drive , Marston, Oxford, Oxfordshire OX3 0ND Shropshire Guru Nanak Gurdwara 1 Hadley Park Road, Hadley, Telford, Shropshire TF1 6PW 01952 411730 Guru Nanak Gurdwara 19a Church Parade, Oakengates, Telford, Shropshire TF2 6EX 01952 616442 South Glamorgan Sikh Gurdwara 16 Wentloog Road, Rumney, Cardiff, South Glamorgan CF3 3LP Sikh Gurdwara 212a Pearl Street, Roath, Cardiff, South Glamorgan CF24 1RD Sri Dasmesh Singh Sabha Gurdwara Bhatra Sikh Centre 97-103 Tudor Street, Cardiff, South Glamorgan CF11 6AE 029 2022 4806 South Yorkshire Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara 98 Balby Road, Doncaster, South Yorkshire DN4 0JL 01302 363816 Guru Kalgidar Gurdwara 73 St James Street, Waterdale, Doncaster, South Yorkshire DN1 3A? Sri Guru Arjan Dev Gurdwara Cherry Tree Road, Hexthorpe, Doncaster, South Yorkshire DN4 0BJ 01302 369460 Gurdwara Sri Guru Teg Bhadar Sahib Ji 163 Bentley Road, Bentley, Doncaster, South Yorkshire DN5 9TB 01302 390056 Sikh Temple 125b Carr House Road, Hyde Park, Doncaster, South Yorkshire DN1 2BD Sikh Temple Ellesmere Road North, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S4 7DN 0114 242 0108 Sikh Temple 120 Bushey Wood Road, Dore, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S17 Staffordshire Nanaksar Gurdwara 90 Tithe Barn Road, Stafford, Staffordshire ST16 3PQ 01785 58590 Guru Nanak Gurdwara 61 Liverpool Road, Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshire ST4 1AQ 01782 415670 Ramgarhia Sikh Temple 141 Wheldon Road, Fenton, Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire ST4 4JG 01782 844940 Strathclyde Guru Granth Sahib Gurdwara 163 Nithsdale Road, Pollockshields, Glasgow, Strathclyde G41 2AL 0141 423 8288 View Map Photo 1 Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara Bhatra Sangat 32 St Andrews Drive, Glasgow, Strathclyde G41 5SG View Map Photo 1 Guru Nanak Gurdwara 27 Otago Street, Kelvinbridge, Glasgow, Strathclyde G12 8JJ Sikh Temple 128 McCulloch Street, Glasgow, Strathclyde G41 Central Gurdwara Singh Sabha 134-138 Berkeley Street, Pollockshields, Glasgow, Strathclyde G3 7HY 0141 221 6698 Suffolk Sikh Temple 719 Bramford Road, Ipswich, Suffolk IP1 5BD 01473 216241 View Map Sanghat Sikh Bhatra Temple Great Yarmouth Road, Ipswich, Suffolk IP1 2EN View Map Surrey Nanak Community Centre St. James Road, Croydon, Surrey CR0 2BU View Map Tayside Sri Guru Nanak Gurdwara 1-3 Nelson Street, Dundee, Tayside DD1 2PN 01382 222 3383 View Map Guru Nanak Gurdwara Sikh Temple Victoria Road, Dundee, Angus Tyne And Wear Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha Tindale Close, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Tyne And Wear NE4 5SA 0191 2738011 View Map Khalsa Mero Roop Hai Khas Gurdwara 2 Dean Terrace, South Shields, Tyne And Wear NE33 5JY View Map Sri Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara The Cloisters (off Ryhope Road), Sunderland, Tyne And Wear SR2 7ED 0191 567 2939 View Map West Midlands Gurdwara Bebe Nanaki 189 Rookery Road, Handsworth, Birmingham, West Midlands B21 9PX 0121 551 3489 Gurdwara Guru Nanak Bhatra Singh Sabha & Community Centre 248-250 Moseley Road, High Gate, Birmingham, West Midlands B13 0DG 0121 440 2387 Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha 18-20 Soho Road, Handsworth, Birmingham, West Midlands B21 9BH 0121 551 1125 Ramgharia Sikh Temple 25-29 Waverley Road, Small Heath, Birmingham, West Midlands B10 0EG 0121 773 0389 Singh Sabha Gurdwara 80 Somerset Road, Handsworth Wood, Birmingham, West Midlands B20 2JB 0121 551 1248 Shri Dasmesh Sikh Temple 305 Wheeler Street, Lozells, Birmingham, West Midlands B19 2EU 0121 523 6059 Shri Guru Ravidass Bhawan Union Row, Handsworth, Birmingham, West Midlands B21 9EN Gurdwara Nanaksar Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Warley, West Midlands B66 4JS 0121 558 9048 Sri Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Gurdwara 118 Wellington Road, Dudley, West Midlands DY1 01384 253 054 Guru Teg Bahadur Gurdwara 7 Vicar Street, Dudley, West Midlands DY3 3SD 01384 238936 Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara 202-204 Cannock Road, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV10 0AL Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara Arthur Street, Bilston, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV14 0DG Gurdwara Amrit Parchar Dharmik Diwan 65 Birmingham Road, Oldbury, Warley, West Midlands B69 4EH 0121 552 3778 Nanaksar Thath Isher Darbar 1 Mander Street, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV3 0JZ 01902 429379 Guru Nanak Gurdwara 205-206 Lea Road, Pennfields, West Midlands WV3 0LG Guru Nanak Gurdwara West Bromwich Street, Walsall, West Midlands WS1 4DE 01922 622199 Gurdwara Baba Sang Saint Pauls Road, High Street, Smethwick, Sandwell, West Midlands B66 1EE 0121 558 2681 Ramgarhia Board and Temple Westbury Street, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV1 1JD 01902 426885 Ramgarhia Sabha 334 Newthampton Road East, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV1 4AD 01902 425156 Ramgarhia Gurdwara 1103 Foleshill Road, Coventry, West Midlands CV6 6EP 024 7666 3048 024 7668 8208 Nanaksar Gurdwara 224-226 Foleshill Road, Coventry, West Midlands CV1 4HW 024 7622 0434 Gurdwara Guru Hargobind 47 Coventry Street, Coventry, West Midlands CV2 4ND Gurdwara Ajit Darbar Coventry UK Lockhurst Lane, Foleshill, Coventry, West Midlands CV6 5NQ 024 7666 2448 Guru Nanak Sewak Jatha 128 De Montfort Way, Cannon Park, Coventry, West Midlands CV4 7DT West Sussex Sri Guru Singh Sabha 27-29 Spencer Road, West Green, Crawley, West Sussex RH11 7DE West Yorkshire Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Malvern/Vetnor Street Off Leeds Road, Bradford, West Yorkshire BD3 9JN 01274 727928 Gurdwara Singh Sabha 10 Grant Street Off Garnet Street, Bradford, West Yorkshire BD3 9HD 01274 738834 Gurdwara Amrit Parchar Dharmik Diwan This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Peckover Street, Little Germany, Bradford, West Yorkshire BD2 1ER 01274 724853 Guru Nanak United Sikh Temple 64 Avenue Road, West Bailing, 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With Guru Jees grace there will be a 8 hour Chaupai Sahib Jaap at Caldmore Gurdwara in support of Chaupai One Million. Please attend and show your suppport. Monday (bh) 25th May 2009 9am-5pm followed by evening diwan Guru Nanak Gurdwara West Bromwich Street, Caldmore, Walsall West Midlands,WSI 4DE

I understand thats the goal. But it might not have happened to this particular soul as she didn't nam jap. I reminded her few weeks ago to do some nam jap. But typical excuses like we humans have. So I actually held her hand and read Japuji sahib to her (about 1.5hrs before her death, she was dying with cancer and pretty much determined that she was not going to survive that day), hoping that by doing that, God gives her one more chance as human to do nam jap and have her born back in some SIKHI oriented family. I hope it happens to my soul as you suggested the goal to merge with GOD. http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?act=at...st&id=12283

thank you k$$%%^ i mean azaad :rolleyes: any more links??

Can anyone post any links of where i can download keertan from this amazing keertani :D

The Sikh Channel has a valid point as the presenters will be impartial and are not preaching about sikhi. If non-amritdhari's were not allowed to participate in any way, shape or form on the channel then how can you expect viewers from the wider punjabi community to be inspired into sikhi - they'll just watch the punjjabi channel instead. And to give them credit, the sikh channel have posted on here asking specifically for amritdharis to take part in presenting etc because of low participation. Regardless of the politics of who is doing what, having a sikh channel is a major leap forward for the sikh community. singhs back in 70s and 80s used to campaign so hard just to have a radio transmitter airing gurbani from darbar sahib, but now we have that and also a sikh channel! We should all be positive about this and offer our collective support. But on a side note, the Sikh channel have a responsibility to ensure that their parchaaraks represent the sikh way of life and are not from any group which seeks to undermine the authority of Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Also there needs be coverage on 1984 in the coming weeks, especially given the fact that it has been 25 years since op bluestar.

A very popular nineteenth century British newspaper, <banned word filter activated>-Bits, made a comparative analysis of great generals of the world and arrived at the following conclusion: "Some people might think that Napoleon was a great General. Some might name Marshall Hendenburgh, Lord Kitchener, General Karobzey or Duke of Wellington etc. And some going further might say Halaku Khan, Genghis Khan, Changez Khan, Richard or Allaudin etc. But let me tell you that in the North of India a General of the name of Hari Singh Nalwa of the Sikhs prevailed. Had he lived longer and had the sources and artillery of the British, he would have conquered most of Asia and Europe…."[15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hari_Singh_Nalwa

yep

got text aswell, can anyone in india confirm this?

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The above poster summed it up nicely :rolleyes: plz keep bumping!

26 days left Just over 250 000 left We won't get another shot at this, so wherever we are in the world, for the next few weeks lets ALL do as many as possible and give it a final push. Benti to keep bumping this thread!

Shaheed Jathedar Gurdev Singh Jee Kaunke 'in January 1986, Bhai Sahib was chosen to the highest Seva in the Khalsa Panth, the Seva of Jathedar of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib.' http://www.neverforget84.com/shaheed/Jathe...ngh-Kaunke.html as k-z has said, we are gulaam

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