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To The Chairman National Comission for Minorities, ... Govt. of India. Lok Nayak Bhawan (5th floor) Khan Market , New Delhi..110003 Subject:- Reconstruction of Gurdwara Gyan Godrhi Sahib at Har ki Pauri, Haridwar, which was earlier taken over by the Haridwar Municipal Committee. Reference – Our Representation of 2000 and in reply to that, the Commission’s Interim Decisions :- A) Allocation of some land at another place on the banks of Ganga, for the constuction of a Gurdwara . Installing a memorial playcard exactly at the same place, where the Gurdwara Gyan Godri existed, indicating the historical event of the visit of Guru Nanak Dev ji to Haridwar and the significance of the place and installing a Nishan Sahib at that point. ..P/2 -2- Sir, With great reverance, it is brought to your kind notice that we had a fair hope that your above mentioned Interem Decisions would be implimented very soon, the matter being related to deprivation of the Rights of a Minority Community ( i.e. Sikh Community) and safeguards, provided in the Constitution of India and Laws of the Country, for which the Commission is fully empowered by the Parliament to monitor the working of rights and safeguards the affected Minority Community. But even on elapsing of eleven (11) years of time, no positive results have been achieved on the subject matter, though it is very important issue which have deep feelings and religious sentiments of a Minority Community. ( i.e. Sikh Community) at large since long. 2. The Commision’s Interim Decision is a package deal and it can not/ should not be implemented in a piece meal. 3. However, on a partial issue (i.e. allotment of land at another place for constuction of Gurdwara), some correspondence ( enlisted below) has been exchanged regarding land owned by Irrigation Deptt., (Western side of Cannal and North of by-pass Road.), which is situated at Ranipur Morh, Haridwar. Later on, it was revealed that this land is related to Uttar Pradesh Govt. and not to the Uttranchal Govt. i) D.O. No. CH/1 (2) 2003-NCM dated. 17 Sep. 2003 from Shri Tarlochan Singh, Chairman, National Comission for Minorities, Govt. of India, New Delhi to the President, Gurdwara Gyan Godri Parbandhak Committee, Haridwar alongwith a copy of letter No. 22/ S.T. dated. 16 Aug. 2003 from the District Magistrate, Haridwar to the Secretary, National Commission for Minorities, Govt. of India, New Delhi. ii) Letter No. GGG/03 dated. 28/29 Sep. 2003 from the President , Gurdwara Gyan Godri Parbandhak Committee, Haridwar to the Chairman, National Commission for Minorities, New Delhi. iii) Letter No. FN.S /29/32/3-00-NCM dt 08 Oct. 2003 from Shri Gurbachan Singh, Joint Secretary, Govt. of India, National Commission for Minorities New Delhi to the District Magistrate, Haridwar, with a copy to Shri Subhash Kumar, Commissionar Garhwal, Uttranchal and to the President Gurdwara ……..P/3 -3- Gyan Godri Parbandhak Committee, Panchpuri, Haridwar . Uttranchal State . iv) D.O. No. S/29/32/3/00-NCM dt. 22 Dec. 2003 from Shri Gurbachan Singh, Joint Secretary , Govt. of India. National Commission for Minorities to Shri V.K. Dewan, Chief Secretary, Govt. of Uttar Pradesh, Lucknow, with a copy to (1) Shri. R.S. Tolia, Chief Secretary, Govt. of Uttranchal, Dehradun, (2) Shri S.K. Maheshwari, District Magistrate, Haridwar, Uttranchal, (3) Sr, Harjeet Singh Dua, President Gurdwara Gyan Godri Parbandhak Committee, Panchpuri, Haridwar, Uttranchal State. v) Leter No. GGG/016 dated. 14-03-2005 from Shri Harjeet Singh Dua, President, Gurdwara Gyan Godri Parbandhak Committee, Haridwar to Shri Gurbachan Singh, Joint Secretary N.C.M. , New Delhi, with a copy to Shri Tarlochan Singh, Chairman, N.C.M., New Delhi. In this letter, it was pionted out that “the Chief Engineer, (Ganges), Meerut, (U.P.) has sent comments on three points, proposed by D.M., Haridwar to the Irrigation Secretary, Lucknow (U.P.). On point 2 , he has indicated in his above report that this land has been given to Forest Department for plantation, on actual visit to site it is seen that no such plantation has been done”. vi) Letter No. HO/GGG/02/06 dt. 14-02-2006 from the President, Gurdwara Gyan Godari Parbandhak Committee, Panchpuri, Haridwar to the Chief Secretary, Govt. of Uttar Pradesh, Lucknow, with a copy to the Chairman, National Commission for Minorities, New Delhi and to the Chief Secretary. Govt, of Uttranchal, Dehradun. vii) Letter No, …… dated 19-06-2007 from the President, Gurdwara Gyan Godri Parbandhak Committee, Haridwar, to the Chief Secretary, Govt. of Uttar Pradesh, Lucknow with a copy to (1). Chief Engineer and Head of Deptt., Irrigation Deptt., Planning Section, Yamuna Colony, Dehradun and (2) S.E. (Irrigation), Works Section, Near Ujwal Bhawan, Maharani Bagh, G.M.S. Road, Dehradun. (Uttranchal.) Even on sending numerious communications / reminders to the Chief …… P/4 -4- Secretary, Uttar .Pradesh. Lucknow, there is not a single word reply or any assurance from him, the question of allotment of land for the purpose is a matter of far away. The Chief Secretary of Uttar Pradesh Lucknow and the Chief Secretary, Uttrakhand, Dehradun did not feel it nessessary even to acknowledge any of our letters. The issue has been considered as an ordinary matter by both the Governments of Uttrakhand and Uttar Prasesh and their subordinate authorities. 4. It is very strange and pitty to say that the Govt. of Uttrakhand is totally silent to implement Commition’s Interim Decision regarding “installing a memorial playcard exactly at the same place where the Gurdwara Gyan Godri existed, indicating the historical event of the visit of Guru Nanak Dev ji to Haridwar and the significance of the place and installing Nishan Sahib at that piont (i.e. at Har ki Pauri, Haridwar, the existed Gurdwara place) which was earlier taken over by the Haridwar Municipal Committee.” This decision may please be got implemented immediately at the same place ( where the Gurdwara was existed is under the administrative control of the Govt.of Uttarakhand. 5. In view of the above, it is requested that the long pending issues may kindly be taken up at top priority with the Govts. of Uttrakhand and Uttar Pradesh and may be settelled immediately ( i.e. within a stipulated time ) and this may not be allowed to linger on any more for the years togather, which may create more complications for the settellment of this sensitive important matter. 6. From the above stated facts and circumestances, it is crystle clear that both the Govts. of Uttrakhand and Uttar Pradesh have violated the desision / orders of the Commission, which may kindly be treated as “Contempt of Court.” as the Commission have the powers of a “Civil Court”. 7. It may also kindly be considered that it is our right to get the Gurdwara Gyan Godari re-constructed at the same place, “Har ki Pauri” where the old Gurdwara was existing . We have already represented and requested to your goodself for the ….P/5 -5- same in the year 2000. And the National Commission for Minorities is quite empowered to safeguard our rights and there may not be a question, “ that the present situation at Har ki Pauri on the banks of the Ganga is such that the re-establishment of the Gurdwara at the same place would not be possible” , as per contention of District Magistrate, Haridwar. The background of the same may please be clarified / made clear to us, as the Sikh Community had a Gurdwara at that place since long time, (i.e. Centuries back). and all revenue records etc. are also available as such there is no dispute with any other party. 8. Now the patience of Sikh Sangat has run out and you are quite aware from the news papers/ media etc. that we are making our full efforts for the peaceful possession of the site in question and settelment of the issue, as in the past few years a large number of masses of Sikh Community gathered at Haridwar and memorandums have been submitted from time to the local Adminisration at Haridwar as well as to the Governor, Chief Minister and other Governmental authorities of Uttrakhand ( previously Uttranchal) but of no use as all this was in vain. 9.In case, the issue is not settelled by the concered authorities at the earliest, the matter will be left over to the public recource ( i.e. Sikh Sangat and Khalsa Panth ) for taking further necessary action / steps to achieve the same place of Gurudwara Sahib related to the historic visit of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji to Haridwar.(Har ki Pauri), which is vey sacred place and have a great significance for all deciples of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji.

ਜਿਵੇਂ ਕਿ ਸਾਰੇ ਜਾਣਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨ ਮੰਤਰੀ ਇੰਦਰਾ ਗਾਂਧੀ ਦੀ ਮੌਤ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ 2 ਨਵੰਬਰ 1984 ਨੂੰ ਫਿਰਕੂ ਜਨੂੰਨੀਆਂ ਵਲੋਂ ਹੋਦ ਚਿੱਲੜ (ਹਰਿਆਣਾ) ਵਿਖੇ ਦਿਨ ਦੇ ਤਕਰੀਬਨ 11 ਵਜੇ ਪੂਰੇ ਪਿੰਡ ਦੇ 32ਨਿਰਦੋਸ਼ ਵਿਅਕਤੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਜਿਉਂਦਿਆਂ ਹੀ ਅੱਗ ਲਗਾ ਕੇ ਫੂਕ ਦਿਤਾ ਦਿਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਸੀ । ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੀਆ...ਂ ਅੱਧਸੜੀਆਂ ਲਾਸ਼ਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਲਾਗਲੇ ਖੂਹ ਵਿੱਚ ਸੁੱਟ ਦਿਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਸੀ । 6 ਮਾਰਚ 2011 ਨੂੰ ਪੂਰੇ 26 ਸਾਲਾਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਉਸੇ ਉੱਜੜੇ,ਲੁੱਟੇ ਪਿੰਡ ਵਿੱਚ ਅੰਤਿਮ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ-ਕ੍ਰਮ ਦੌਰਾਨ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਸ਼ਹੀਦਾਂ ਦੀ ਸਦੀਵੀ ਯਾਦ ਬਣਾਈ ਰੱਖਣ ਲਈ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਸੁਪਰੀਮ ਹਸਤੀ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਆਪਣੇ ਕਰ ਕਮਲਾ ਨਾਲ਼ ‘ਸਿੱਖ ਜੈਨੋਸਾਈਡ’ ਦਾ ਪੱਥਰ ਹੋਂਦ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਵਿਖੇ ਲਗਾਇਆ ਗਿਆ ਸੀ । ਅੱਜ ਕੱਲ਼ ਇਸ ਕਤਲੇਆਮ ਦਾ ਕੇਸ ਜਸਟਿਸ ਟੀ.ਪੀ.ਗਰਗ ਦੀ ਅਦਾਲਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਹਿਸਾਰ ਵਿਖੇ ਚੱਲ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ । ਪਿਛਲੇ ਦਿਨੀ ਜਦੋਂ ਜਸਟਿਸ ਟੀ.ਪੀ.ਗਰਗ ਨੇ ਇਸ ਹੋਦ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਪਿੰਡ ਦਾ ਦੌਰਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਸੀ ਤਾਂ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਤੁਰੰਤ ਆਰਡਰ ਕਰਕੇ ਇਸ ਪਿੰਡ ਨੂੰ ਸੀਲ ਕੀਤਾ ਸੀ ਅਤੇ ਡੀ.ਸੀ ਨੂੰ ਹਦਾਇਤਾਂ ਕੀਤੀਆਂ ਸਨ ਕਿ ਇਸ ਪਿੰਡ ਨੂੰ ਜਿਉਂ ਦਾ ਤਿਉਂ ਰੱਖਿਆ ਜਾਵੇ ਕੋਈ ਛੇੜ-ਛਾੜ ਨਾਂ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਾਵੇ । ਕੱਲ੍ਹ ਅਚਾਨਕ ਜਦੋਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਸ੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕ ਕਮੇਟੀ ਦੇ ਮੁਲਾਜਮਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਜਗਦੇਵ ਸਿੰਘ, ਭਾਈ ਹਰਜਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦੇ ਉੱਘੇ ਲੇਖਕ ਮਨਜਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਾਲ਼ਾ ਸਰੌਂਦ ਨਾਲ਼ ਹੋਂਦ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਦਾ ਦੌਰਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਕਿ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਲਗਾਇਆ ਨੀਹ ਪੱਥਰ ਸ਼ਰਾਰਤੀਆਂ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਤੋੜਿਆਂ ਹੋਇਆ ਸੀ । ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਏਧਰ-ਓਧਰ ਬਖੇਰਿਆ ਪਿਆ ਸੀ ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਤੁਰੰਤ ਐਕਸ਼ਨ ਕਰਦਿਆਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਪਿੰਡ ਦੇ ਸਰਪੰਚ ਨਾਲ਼ ਰਾਬਤਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਇਹ ਕਹਿ ਕੇ ਪੱਲਾ ਝਾੜਿਆ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਕੀ ਕਰ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ । ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਪਿੰਡ ਦੀ ਚੌਂਕੀ ਗੲ,ਅਫਸੋਸੇ ਉੱਥੇ ਜਿੰਦਰਾ ਲੱਗਾ ਹੋਇਆ ਸੀ । ਉਸ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਤੁਰੰਤ ਹੋਂਦ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਨੂੰ ਪੈਂਦੇ ਠਾਣੇ ‘ਪਲਵਾਵਾਦ’ ਗਏ ਜਿਥੇ ਇੰਸਪੈਕਟਰ ਰਤਨ ਲਾਲ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਲੇ । ਇਮਸਪੈਕਟਰ ਰਤਨ ਲਾਲ ਟਾਲ਼ਮਟੋਲ ਕਰਨ ਲੱਗਾ । ਜਦੋਂ ਸਖਤੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਤਾਂ ਕਹਿਣ ਲੱਗਾ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਤਾਂ ਮੌਕਾ ਦੇਖੇਗਾ ਤਾਂ ਤੁਰੰਤ ਇੰਸਪੈਕਟਰ ਰਤਨ ਲਾਲ ਨੂੰ ਨਾਲ਼ ਲਿਜਾ ਕੇ ਹੋਂਦ ਚਿੱਲੜ ਦਾ ਦੌਰਾ ਕਰਵਾਇਆਂ ਅਤੇ ਟੁੱਟਾ ਪੱਥਰ ਵੀ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ ਅਤੇ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਜੱਜ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਸੁਣਾਏ ਹੁਕਮ ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਪਰ ਅਫਸੋਸ ਰਤਨ ਲਾਲ ਨੇ ਇਹ ਕਹਿ ਕੇ ਪੱਲਾ ਝਾੜਿਆ ਕਿ ਕਿਸੇ ਪਸੂ ਨੇ ਗਿਰਾਇਆ ਹੋਵੇਗਾ ਅਤੇ ਪਸ਼ੂਆਂ ਵਾਗੂੰ ਐਕਸ਼ਨ ਕਰਕੇ ਵੀ ਦਿਖਾਏ । ਅਸੀਂ ਕਿਹਾ ਕਿ ਪਸੂ ਨੇ ਇਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਉਂ ਗਿਰਾਉਣਾ ਸੀ ? ਇਸ ਦੇ ਤਾਂ ਜਾਣਬੁੱਝ ਕੇ ਟੁੱਕੜੇ-ਟੁੱਕੜੇ ਕੀਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਲੱਗਦੇ ਹਨ । ਇਹ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਹੀ ਸ਼ਰਾਰਤੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਕੰਮ ਹੈ ਜਿਹਨਾਂ 1984 ਵਿੱਚ ਕਤਲੇਆਮ ਕੀਤਾ ਸੀ । ਉਹ ਐਲੀਮੈਂਟ ਦੁਬਾਰਾ ਤੋਂ ਸਰਗਰਮ ਹੋ ਗਏ ਹਨ ਅਤੇ ਜਾਂਚ ਵਿੱਚ ਰੋੜੇ ਅਟਕਾ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ । ਤੁਸੀਂ ਐਫ ਆਈ ਆਰ ਦਰਜ ਕਰੋ । ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਅਸੀਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਲੈਟਰ ਪੈਡ ਤੇ ਲਿਖਤੀ ਕੰਪਲੇਂਡ ਦਿਤੀ । ਅਸੀਂ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਸਖਤ ਸਟੈਂਡ ਲੈਵਾਂਗੇ ਅਤੇ ਇਸ ਦੀ ਕੰਪਲੇਂਡ ਐਸ.ਐਸ.ਪੀ., ਡੀ.ਸੀ., ਹੋਮ ਸੈਕਟਰੀ ਅਤੇ ਜਸਟਿਸ ਟੀ.ਪੀ.ਗਰਗ ਨੂੰ ਕਰਕੇ ਮੰਗ ਕਰਾਂਗੇ ਕਿ ਸ਼ਰਾਰਤੀ ਤੱਤਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਤੁਰੰਤ ਗ੍ਰਿਫਤਾਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਵੇ । ਐਸ.ਜੀ.ਪੀ.ਸੀ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਮੱਕੜ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਤੇ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਗੁਰਬਚਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੂੰ ਅਪੀਲ ਕੀਤੀ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਸਖਤ ਸਟੈਡ ਲੈਣ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਸੁਪਰੀਮ ਹਸਤੀ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਲਗਾਏ ਪੱਥਰ ਨੂੰ ਤੋੜਨਾ ਕੌਮ ਨੂੰ ਵੰਗਾਰਨ ਦੇ ਬਰਾਬਰ ਹੈ । ਸਾਰੀਆਂ ਧਿਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਚਰਨਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਅਪੀਲ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਆਪਸੀ ਮੱਤਭੇਦ ਭੁਲਾ ਕੇ ਇੱਕ ਜੁੱਟ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਇੰਨਸਾਫ ਲਈ ਅਵਾਜ਼ ਬੁਲੰਦ ਕਰਨੀ ਚਾਹੀਦੀ ਹੈ । ਸਾਨੂੰ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਯਕੀਨ ਹੋਇਆਂ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਕਿੰਨੀ ਨਫਰਤ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ ਅਤੇ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਹੀ ਪਤਾ ਕਿ ਅਸੀਂ ਕਿੰਨੀ ਜਦੋਜਹਿਦ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਕੰਪਲੇਂਡ ਕਰ ਪਾਏ । 1984 ਵਿੱਚ ਵਿਚਾਰਿਆਂ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਹਾਲ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੋਵੇਗਾ ??See More

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JALANDHAR: Chief minister Parkash Singh Badal is now making all out efforts to woo religious leaders of Adi-dharmi community. Two days after foundation laying of an ayurvedic university in the name of Guru Ravidass, he held a meeting with Ravidassia sants at Chandigarh on Tuesday and issued directions to provide a plot of land at Anandpur Sahib for a dharamsala. It is learnt that he is reaching out to a section of Ravidassia sants to counter Dera Ballan's influence on Adi-dharmi voters. Elements of alienation has been prevailing in the Dera and its followers after SAD government thwarted a move by dera protagonists to replace Guru Granth Sahib with Amrit Bani Granth in community shrines. The delegation of Rvidassia sants was headed by Sri Guru Ravidass Sadhu Sampardai Society president Sant Nirmal Dass. Though it was officially termed as a thanksgiving visit by the sants to express their gratitude to the CM for naming the upcoming university in the name of Guru Ravidass, sources privy to the developments revealed that the CM had extended an invitation to the sants to visit him to discuss their issues when he met them at the foundation stone laying ceremony of the university in Hoshiarpur. It is learnt though Sadhu Sampardai Society had already dumped Dera Ballanas move to announce separate religion with a separate granth, yet, they were nursing a few grouses including that of a community shrine in village Dansiwal of district Hoshiarpur where there a dispute has been simmering for the last several months over installation of Nishan Sahib (flag with insignia). Only three weeks back, Radha Soami Dera head Baba Gurinder Singh had attended a function organized by Sant Nirmal Dass at his dera on September 21 and the move was expected to have political implications. The Ravidassia sants demanded to open an ITI in the name of Guru Ravidass in village Chooharwali in district Jalandhar, to which Badal responded positively. However, SAD and BJP leaders of Ad-dharmi community are finding themselves in a catch-22 situation as siding with Sadhu Sampardai Society may annoy Dera Ballan or vice versa. asSituation for them is like a tightrope walk to meet both sides without alienating any,a? said a SC leader from the ruling alliance.

Can we discuss this article http://www.sikhreview.org/pdf/january2008/pdf-files/demography.pdf

All these Upper caste doesn't exist among Sikhs outside punjab. Khatri , Aroras , Sainis , Ramgaria , Bhatras and Rajput Sikhs do inter caste marriages.

Chura (Punjabi: ਚੂੜਾ) is a caste in Punjab whose traditional occupation is sweeping. Churas are largely followers of Sikhism and secondly Christianity. A small minority practice Valmikism, an off shoot or cult[1][2][3] form of mainstream Hinduism which still incorporates elements of Sikhism in its practices. They are treated as untouchables or Dalits as they occupy the lowest category in Hinduism's religious hierarchy.[4][5] The Churas were largely converted to Christianity in North India during the British raj. The vast majority were converted from the Mazhabi Sikh communities of Punjab, and to a lesser extent Hindu Churas; under the influence of enthusiastic British army officers and Christian missionaries. Consequently, since partition they are now divided between Pakistani Punjab and Indian Punjab. Large numbers of Mazhabi Sikhs were also converted in the Moradabad district and the Bijnor district[12] of Uttar Pradesh. Rohilkhand saw a mass conversion of its entire population of 4500 Mazhabi Sikhs into the Methodist Church.[13] Sikh organisations became alarmed at the rate of conversions among the Mazhabi Sikhs and responded by immediately dispatching Sikh missionaries to counteract the conversions. We lost 4500 brothers and sisters and we dont know about it ?

Sikhs praying baptish church.

We need some organization 100% committed to deal with these missionaries . What i know these missionaries are all sponsor by Americans .

Challi ram Gulli ram company is talking about some clashes in Amritsar where Sings have tried to stop the sale of tobacco Can anyone from Amritsar confirm this ? Below is what ponga pandat has wrote . http://www.facebook.com/#!/PuranePunjabi [*] If u are a Punjabi Hindu then like this page 7 hours ago Doston, mere ikk dost ne mainu dsya hai ki amritsar (valmikinagar) vichh kuchh sardar ikathe hokar har jagah gunda gardi karde hoye tambaku te paan dian dukana band karwa rhe si te gareeban di rozi roti khon di koshish kar rhe si. banda puchhe koi tuhanu jabardasti tambaku khvaa reha ?? sab ton jada daru te meat te tusi padde oo . udon dhrm kithe khus jaanda ?? khair apni dhakke shahi naal swarn m... andir de nehre gunda gardi karke eh Ghumiar mandi naam de ilaake de vich pahunch. uthe saade UP de kuchh veer kathe hoye te unha to eh bardaasht naa hoya . Hindu sher jaag gya te unha ne ina gunde-badmashan te hamla bol dita. vekhan vaale dasde haan ki gunde pajame te paggan saambh saambh bhajje te pichhan mud ke vi nai vkhya.. jinna nu bhaiyye kehnde si unaa UP vaaleyan de aage vi zor nai chalya. uston baad guru bazar naa di jagah te local Hindu ikkatha ho gyaa te uthe inha di vadan di himmat nahin hoyi te inha di badmashi dhari reh gyi. Centre sarkar nu khabar milan to baad aaj Amritsar vich CRPF laa diti gyi te suraksha te takde parbandh kite gye han. CRPF de jawana de honsle vekh ke saare badmash aaj saadh ban gye han.

http://christianwatchindia.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/christians-from-tamil-planning-conversions-in-7-districts-of-punjab-to-be-sponsoring-the-mission-field-work-ultimately-all-18-to-be-covered-destruction-of-indian-religions/ When would we wake up to counter this ? we need a organization 100 % committed to counter this like jews have called Jew for Judaism. Why cant we adopt convesion policy and convert people and help them to settle down in punjab .

Please read this http://www.wordsthatmadeamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Racialization-of-Religious-copy.pdf this is the proof that white christians radicals hate minorities and 9/11 gave them excuse to kill people.

We need our own militia to defend our people, we should stop trusting governments specially Christian fanatics states like USA , Russia and Australia. All gurdwaras should set up thier defence force.

I have heard about Christian Fundamentalists but after reading their comments i have to say these people are worst then Wahabis. Their idiots believe if you dont worship jesus it means you worship Devil.

Whole my life i believe that Akal purkh is only god and all these devi devtas are just myth but this concept of nirgun and sargun is little confusing can we discuss this in detail and in simpl language . I want to know Gurbani view on Indian and Abrahmic relegion .

Why cant congress party be declared as Terrorist organization.We all know congress was behind the 1984 Sikh genocide . Anything related to this party outside India should be banned. What can we done to achieve this,

Why they hiding the names of organization and people oppossing Punjabi . I know Arya samajis will be behind all this. Its high time we stop tolerating this.

What Janak Saakhi he is talking about in this Video about some baba Jinda ?

Sat Sri Akal to all . I want to draw khalsa panth attention to the another pakhandi Baba name Swami Ram pal of Kabir panthin sect . In the below videos he is telling people that god of Guru Nanak Sahib ji was Bhagat Kabir ji and to prove that he is talking about some janam sakhi can anyone give more knowledge about this and answer this guy back.