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my dad asked the person in charge for the coach from singh sahba southall to book seats...but he said its fine just tell the NUMBER OF PEOPLE...they dont book it?? so those who didn't call and book will also get seats so what is the purpose to call in advance?? is it to make them easyto judge how many coaches are needed?? or my dad misunderstood?? please advise. thanks

oh yes, i remember from your kara...... that man gave a green MALA to my mum after getting the 10 pounds so that he can ask for more money. and singh n ting ji......were u telling this hong kong story because u knew i am from hong kong?? haha but what u say is true. but let me make it clear...its just because stanley is a place which only VISTORS will go.....so these bakandi now only wait there and some other places where there are alot of visitors. and its very less now...but they dont wear giani clothes which i have seen.. and yes all the chinese know it also. they just stop you and ask for your hand ....the chinese are sick of them. but not much seen nowadays cause people know about these liars. they make all the sikh besti. the other thing is u mention about batra (alot of batra in hong kong) this is not true as i know. i only know 1 or 2 ....after 28 years there haha alot of gill i know.... everyone's hard working in hong kong......open hearted...caring....i hope no one will mind i say.....people here are really different...

i am new in london........and really happy to see so much sikhi here.....but one problem i have seen in the last 6 months is - who are the people (wearing the ghaini clothes) who come to your house (knocking on everyone's house) asking for money for gurdwara or doing ardas .......the first time the man came and we didn't know whats up . we opened the door and he start saying he is here to collect some money for some gurdwara (dont remember its in india or here) and we knew at that time that he is gonna ask for money and of course its not a problem because guru granth sahib also teach us to donate some money (although i am not working) i was gonna give him....my dad ,mum and I was at home at that time ...after saying this he said "GO IN, AND SIT " :0 we were shock...he quickly take off his shoes (which were quite a cool white leather one) he kind of push us inside the sitting room and he stood infront of the baba ji's photo and did ardaas. so we had to stand with him of course. then he sat on the sofa himself and started giving blessing which we didn't need from him cause afterall we are gursikh and we always go to gurdwara and we dont know who he is and what he is doing in our home...we didn't want to shout or be rude to him cause on the other hand if he is really a giani from some gurdwara its gonna be really bad. then he ask for our donation...we gave 10 pounds which we thought is more than enough ......but we got to know he is a BAKANDI when he said THIS IS TOO LESS....HOR DAVOH....i wanted to shout at him but seeing him quite old i calm myself down. then dad said we dont have much money and we are new here this and that...we finally nicely forced him out......if he was a gursikh he wont ask for MORE. besharam.......dont even know if he is amritari or not also. now today ......after a few months.......another group came (3 younger men in white giani clothes) but this time ........we hold our hearts and did not open the door for them because we know these are all bekandis.......whats going on here?? who are they?? i dont understand why no one kick them?? if i was alone and this was the first time i see these kind of giani and open the door i dont know what would have happen(i am a girl)........then we saw them knocking on all the other houses but no one open the door. SIKHS ARE BEGGING?? sharam karo...... i am sorry if i hurt anyone but i am a gursikh and not meant to hurt anyone but just wanna share my experience and incase someone haven't heard of this can be alert. I have seen people representing the church to come and give u brochures telling about jesus but i never see them forcing you for money . they really are here to tell u about jesus not for money. WHY our sikhs are like that?? and may be someone can tell us if those were not SIKH if i am wrong.

can anyone pls post the schedule of baba ranjit singh ji in uk from 21 dec 06??? thanks

really thanks for all the information........i am waiting for your pm lol,.....

khalsa ji........you must be looking forward to see babaji ......are you the one to organise it???? by the way ......i guess you r virji?? and i am phenji......really nice to know you.......and tell me more about babaji's visit to uk......schedules....and where to listen to the samagam....do you talk to the babajis often???

here are some pics i took.......god bless of course i didn;t mata tek to him ......i respect him.....i respect what he say that not to mata tek.....then i will not......and no one should .......but only listen to what his teachings are......and to follow them.....

it was really a great day............i took amrit with his permission...(as i had some majburi)......by the way ........may i know who are you (HUM PAPPI??) are you also from hong kong......i never read anyone from hong kong replying any topic....please introduce yourself if you dont mind.... did you take amrit??? here are some pics...........

babaji is here..........i went to the airport and met him........coollllllllllll............i am so happy.........i did seva for him ......unbelieveable........he is living next to me .......i will meet him tomorrow.......talk to him........now we are waiting to go to gurdwara for in the evening .......can't wait.........its wonderful.......never ever imagine.....will be posting pics soon......

wow great i didn't know about this gursikh ...........i am proud of him...........need to get in touch with him to know more .........everyone pls look forward to see the pics and new of babaji in hong kong.........hope it will be great.......

i guess everything is confirmed..........we are all looking forward to see him.........to listen to his kirtan and teachings........god bless all of us

hong kong sangat

wow u didn't know there are ALOT OF SIKH (actually should say PUNJABI.) they are not really sikh.....so i hope babaji can influence them to be sikh.....

yes really ....i will.....hey do u know anywhere i can buy nice kirpan and gatra.......pls dont start shouting at me lol.....my mum got amrit......here in hong kong we have no where we can buy these stuffs.....i was wondering there must be alot of special ones in the uk or other countries.....please advise me.....like the gatra with khanda on it.......hope someone can advise......

THANKS.......yea i also heard like u can wear those small ones round your neck.....but make up and uncovering head.....this is ridiculous.....i know babaji will help me out.....he said there is no job where u can't take amrit........but i need babaji to tell me if this is forgivable if i uncover my head......

thanks for your reply ..........the person in this case is me .......see i really really wanna take amrit but dont know what to do..........one side my job that i longed for since childhood and one side my guru which i got to know is so important and i really want to belong to him totally but see........i just hope there will be someone to tell me what to do.......of course i am not just doing this job for money but cause its waht i tried so hard and achieved and now ......i understand if i ask babaji he will tell me what to do.....but i just wanna know if anyone know any flight attendant who took amrit and may be i can learn something from her......as u know makeup , uncovering head., need to take off the kirpan, oh i am scared babaji will reject me ......will not let me take amrit.....any advise??

hi .....does anyone know what if a FLIGHT ATTENDANT or AIR HOSTESS want to take amrit .........what can she do??? is it possible??? anyone know any flight attendant who have took amrit?? please help

GOOD NEWS.........Baba ranjit singh dhandriawale coming to hong kong on 17 and 18 june 2006. unbelieveable.............looking forward to see him and listen to his great kirtan ......WAHE GURU JI KA KHALSA WAHE GURU JI KI FATEH

THIS REPLY WAS MINE I FORGOT TO LOGIN HAHA :e:

all my virji and didi , i understand that it is important to follow the maryada i mean you have take the amrit and must follow all the rules and you are worried that you will make mistake. but dear, i tink that as long as you have done your best and did not do any thing wrong ON PURPOSE, (which means knowing that its wrong but you still do it) then i think there is no problem. like didi you post this to ask about the dry lips and if you can put some lip glosse , do you think baba ji is going to answer this question here>>?? i hope you dont mind i am saying this. all the meembers here are same like you. (some might be like me, not amritdari) but we are all just normal people, and none of us are saints or giani who can say YES YOU CAN USE OR NO U CANNOT. dear it is up to you. as long as you have said that it is not make up or have colour . and you are not using it to show your beauty. then its ok as long as i feel. i know you want to make sure so that you will not do anything wrong. but didi what if someone reply here saying YOU CAN and another say YOU CAN'T then?? i think everyone who wants to ask questions regarding make up things, should ask oneself. if you think your lips are dry you want to fix them , ok use what you think can hlep you and will not make someone say WOW YOU ARE LOOKING GREAT WITH THAT. i think you know more than me, what is right and what is wrong. if your lip glosse have colour dont use it . hope i did not offend you didi. but just to tell all of you that sometimes we(sikh) ourselves are making our religion complicated. and i have seen alot of examples in this forums,. so i hope everyone of us can answer some of our daily life questions by ourselves, or ask babaji . even if you bought that lip glosse , tell babaji that you are using it and ask him for forgiving you if you have done something wrong. i think he wont be punishing his kids for these reasons.

i understand that its against?? sikhi, to wear a rakhi, i dont know if this is true i mean i know this is not right also to celebrate all this festivals and stuff, but virji, you know what, did babaji said not to hurt anyone? you can be right that if u wear this it may be against our religion, but if you got it tied from your sis, will baba ji punish you and your sis?? i dont think there is such things like if u do this this this things baba ji will punish you. (as long as its not something real bad) and i know people say if you get the rakhi tied by your sis then it means you will protect her. i think all this is just not so true. but dear, this tradition is coming from long back so we follow it and dont even care if our religion allows it or not. but u know what, if your WHOLE FAMILY agree not to tie it then its 100% cool great. but some say yes some say no. go for your sister. ask her. if she want to tie then let her. she is the one who wants your protection. if she believe in this then you must make her happy .. but there is alot of other festivals which sikh people still celebrate. so many that i think is not necessary. so there is nothing will happen cause its some tradition which is set up before we are born, its not that we have made it up . and we dont have enough power to stop it. you can stop yourself but how about your family's feeling?? you will hurt them also. now i dont know what the conclusion should be, to tie or not to tie this is up to how your family members will react espeically your sis you can go up to her and beg her , sis please say you dont wanna tie it hahaha . but i dont think there is really such a big deal . babaji will never punish anyone who loves his/her family .

didi, if your family and your massar's family will gather together sometimes , then start this conversation there, like making a joke to your massar , say , oh someone saw you buying some drink (beer) someday, (smile when you say), act like you are not gonna teach him a lesson, but tell him you guys know what he is doing. and if other members in your family doesn't know about this they will start the topic themselves, like OH REALLY? DID U ?? and when everyone is starting their lecture, you can start yours haha you can say i can't believe what is happening , like how much we respect our babaji and what people (dont say YOU) are doing (beadbi). and say if you think you are not suitable for being a amritdari then better give up and not to put paap on your family members also. and on the other hand say that i dont think there is anything which can stop you from not being an amritdari, you can be the great son of our guru which not everyone can be. didi , i think you will get this chance to say all this, but u know dear, afterall we can really do nothing to stop anyone doing anything, u know what i mean? at least if u say all this, you have already tried to stop him and let him know he is wrong and that you guys know he is doing something wrong, if u dont mention this to him he might be thinking that there is no one know he is drinking. but if he dont stop then let him go ahead drink or give up sikhi, cause babaji will do all the rest. to keep him or to leave him. right? the most important is those who are pure stay pure forever. but dear i dont really understand how can people do this, really, if you can't keep amrit dont take it right? by the way i am not amritdari yet. (not qualified to be one yet) haha . i hope i did not offend anyone .

yea above guest's reply is right also about to make sure if the uk boy is ready to marry you. also make sure his parents will say yes. if not again another issue. and for the case above guest described is the case that the girl did not say anything and parents did not know i guess that she wanted to marry someone she liked. but see, its not always parents will allow you to marry someone you liked. you need to tell them he is perfect. and that there will not be any problem . (which if there is they are not responsible). if they force you to marry someone u dont want to then who knows what will happen later on ?? and they are also the ones to suffer ......so tell them all this.......(BUT I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR LIFE DIDI). and for vichola....i think you are the one who know if it is necessary. cause if you are already very close to your mum then i dont think this is useful. this will make your mum feel you have done something wrong and make the case (haha) worse. after all i think you should do everything step by step .which means the first step is NOT TO REJECT THE PUNJAB BOY , but to ask your UK boy if he is serious with you , if he will marry u

so the other boy is in uk. and you too. so i think there is no reason why your parents will not agree with you for marrying him. as you know if you marry a boy in india you will have to bring him to uk and settle him and there are really alot of thing you have to adjust (with him or for him). so just discuss these stuffs with your parents like how can you handle all these ......who knows how he will feel coming to uk ? dont mind i say....its not everyone can settle in foreign countries.....some do not adjust and become depress.....so you need to talk all of these with your paernts and PROMOTE haha your lover (the uk boy) to them and tell them eveyrthing u know about him (how good he is) and of course afterall you must make sure he is really the one for you and its not only you thinking yourself. and i am sure they will accept it. it simple you konw. you asked for our help dear, but you are the only one who know how your parents will react so arrange everything as you think will be fine. (i mean the time to discuss with them, and the place ) haha i hope you will success. and wish you all the best. and ask that uk boy to pray to babaji also

i dont know you have to leave home?? how come your mum is doing all this to you?? what about you dad?? is he on your side or her side? i understand ......if you are the age of marrying and still dont have job and is not settle is really a tension for you and dont forget its a tension for your mum also....its not that she is shouting at you or kicking you out of the house because she hate you for no reason. its just all these things like marriage, job and all your cousins ssettled.....she is also worried ........she wants to see you same like them...or at least have a job (which is important in pardes) just pray to babaji to give you a job and i am sure after this everything is fine...at least you will be away from home for like 8 hours a day which will make the arguements with mum less. i dont know if this helped you...but i know running away from home ....leaving your parents who have brought you up is a wrong step. by the way i am not amritdari ....so if you are one you should know more than me :e: