Jump to content

Khalsa_Girl_1

Members
  • Posts

    1,523
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by Khalsa_Girl_1

  1. Really???? Well, duh.. :lol: But..seriously? In shastar vidhiya pantrey?
  2. FOR EVERYONE: PLEASE READ THIS POST http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=179740
  3. It doesn't matter. Equality is equality. Besides.. I was relating equality to money put into marriage plans etc. Marriage is far drinking. And I don't understand the big deal in a girl drinking anyway. <_< It's wrong for anyone to drink, so why do people point out an alcoholic female? (not people who were raised in Punjab..not older people etc.) Why do Sikhs TODAY, in developed countries, pinpoint the GIRLS..when Guru ji teaches us equality. Same for drugs etc.. It's wrong. Dowry is a big NO-NO in Sikhi!! Most GurSikhs (outside of South Asia) don't follow the DOWRY RULE. They are living happy lives. In fact most of them are happier than those who follow the dowry system..cuz really now.. What does the dowry do? NOTHING! THE IMPORTANCE/SIGNIFICANCE OF DOWRY (not applying to today though): Since it is a 'cultural thing' for a girl moves into the boys house right after marriage, a new bride would obviously feel uncomfortable moving into a strangers house. In most cases, the 2 families lived quite a distance from each other. Individuals from nearby villages were rarely hooked up for marriage. She didn't know anyone from the village. Soooooooooo...The parents would give her items from home..the things she was familiar with. The lists includes: - Bed/that manjaa thingy - Homemade blankets/quilts - Clothes - Kitchen utensils - Photos - Other furniture And so on... These belongings were given to the girl so she could feel 'at home' when she moved in with the 'strangers'... But NOWWW.. What are people doing now?!?! ASKING FOR MONEY THAT THEY DON'T NEED AT ALLLL!! The used-to-be-good-tradition dowry thing is now a good-for-nothing, maayaa(money)-eating strategy. PEOPLE ARE NOW ASKING FOR CARS!!..not to mention unbelievable amounts of money. .......... How is this related to the girl & boy paying 50-50..? ..... Even if EVERYONE ON EARTH sticks with this mentality..it gives the more reason for BOTH families to provide equal amounts of money for the wedding. .......... It's more like the GIRL HAS TO deal with the guy for the rest of HER life. Since SHE: - Has to go through the entire changes... - Has to move into a new environment that she made not wish to DEAL with - Has to deal with family members SHE doesn't know - Has to know all the 'traditional' so-called "female duties" (Which should NOT be the case in 2009, but still is.) - Does not know the family ways/rules/customs etc in the new household - Feels alienated - Has to deal with being separated from her family I MEAN CLEARLY.. It's the GIRL who has to deal with the guy for the rest of her life... So the GUY'S FAMILY MIGHT AS WELL PAY FOR THE WEDDING. I see no reason why not. The GIRL is moving into the guys home. So the GIRLS family is at a loss. In addition to that, the guys family STILL want the girls family to pay?!?!?! That doesn't make any sense AT ALL. So.. Since the boys family isn't losing anything/anyone at all.. The boys family should pay for the wedding etc...and NOT ask for dowry at all!! When the guys family asks for money, it just shows that the guy cannot continue to support his family after the addition of just one member (the wife) within the household.
  4. To answer your question.. You are to spend every breath possible thinking about the Lord, which will automatically have you think about helping others with every breath. You don't need money to help people. Volunteering for other things is enough.
  5. Sorry but...he's a Sikh. In Sikhi, a woman does not need to be looked after. She is independent, and should look after herself as much as a man looks after himself. That was uncalled for, and seemed very sexist. Sikhi teaches equality. The money etc may be tools, but humans are NOT. You marry a soul-mate..not a random person to have kids with. Please reword your sentence so it does not sound like it is coming from a sull-aa. .......... ONE- It is GREAT that you are that attached to GurBaani and Guru ji. So there is nothing to worry about. TWO- You don't gotta believe you should have only, like 2 shirts man!! God doesn't want Sikhs to live in worse conditions than we can! Just don't take things for granted. THREE- You don't have to get married. It's NOT a sin to be without a soul mate forever. You just need to do more Bhagtee, is all. (Which I believe you will have no problem with )
  6. ???? HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS??? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT OUR 10th GURU SACRIFICED HIS FOUR SONS?? TWO OF THEM DIED IN BATTLE GURU JI HIMSELF MADE HIS SONS READY FOR BATTLE GURU JI HIMSELF TIED THEIR DOUMALA, GURU JI HIMSELF HANDED THEM SHASTAR <_< :umm: :o :lol: :D :6 You're correct.. HOWEVER..!! You're forgetting the most important thing... WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS..It is righteous to raise the sword ..ONLY WHENNN....Taking acceptable/appropriate steps to help someone, and in the right mind.. FOR JUSTICE ONLY :D :lol: :rolleyes: :o
  7. I'm sorry too..that you misunderstood my points. & I still stick to my stand as well. You are still mentioning different regions etc where Hindus behave differently. I am not talking about different areas of the country/world where Hindus behave differently. I am talking about the religion itself. You're asking me if I have heard of the eldest female getting inheritance. Then you mention how in some cases, a man marries into a woman's house. Again.. I am not talking about CULTURE. I am talking about Hinduism, the RELIGION. There is a big difference. Please do your research before posting things. 'Muslims came to India and changed the Hindu culture', I agree. HOWEVER.. It does not change the fact that Hinduism oppresses women THROUGH THE ACTUAL RELIGION. You are, in fact, incorrect about needing to visit South India or places in the North East to "see the original Hinduism" because you are pointing me in a direction that will show me the differences between some CULTURAL Hindu communities. However.. That is NOT where I am getting at. Again... I am strictly relating the sexism to the religion, not different cultures/cultural areas which change the cultural values/beliefs of a group. The scripts stay the same. The teachings stay the same. The Gods stay the same. The RELIGIOUS beliefs stay the same. The religion stays the same. Culture ≠ Religion I am not trying to be offensive. I'm just stating facts. & the fact is that.. In Hinduism, the ACTUAL religion (through scripts, teachings, the several Gods they pray to) they are taught what I had mentioned in my previous post. Please do not get confused with culture and religion..as they are very different in most parts of the world.
  8. Very true. In Canada, (and other places as well, I'm sure) there were many incidents where children would go on class field trips, and their innocence was against them. Here is an example of the many (repeated) methods white Christians used to convert non-Christians: While students were on a bus for school field trips, the Christians would prepare the following scenario: While the kids were in the vehicle used for transporting them to their destination, an adult would mess with the wires etc so that the bus would not start properly. When the driver (who know, of course) would turn the key, it wouldn't start (part of the evil plan).. So he would pick a random child and ask her/him to pray to her/his God. (even though they believe in one God...w.t.f?) So the child would chant/say what she/he was taught to. The driver and teachers would pretend to try his/their best to start up the vehicle, but OF COURSE it wouldn't start. Then, the driver/teachers would ask the other non-Christians to do the same, leading with the same results. THENNNN!!!..WHILE SOMEONE WOULD FIX UP THE WIRES etc.. They would ask the Christian children to pray to Jesus and told them to ask Jesus for help. OF COURSE the vehicle would start then. Sooooooo.. (again..even though Christians say they believe in one God.. :S ) The driver+teachers would turn to the kids and tell them that "their" God was not powerful at all, and would even say their God(s) did not exist!! They would tell the kids that Jesus is the only savior..yes, using that word OF COURSE. My cousin volunteered with World Vision, and she quit the day after reaching India cuz World Vision was converting children to Christians using various methods. .......... I completely agree. Muslims try their VERY BEST to convert people. I try my hardest to avoid conversations with them cuz there has only been ONE Muslim friend of mine who did not try to convert me. Muslims try to convert people by saying things like.. "You were born a Muslim, anyway." (as mentioned earlier) "Islam will be the last remaining religion on Earth." "Islam does not support sexism, but proves that there are/distinguishes between male and female." and the most feared: "Judgment day.." (dun dun dunnn...) 'ooo. I'm so scared now..judgment day' (ppl should get a life..) One of the most notable statements by Muslims who try to convert people is the following: "The Bible, the Torah, and the Talmud had to be perfected, so God sent Mohamed to teach people what God really 'wants' and to write a 'perfect' holy book." (just letting people know...Mohamed didn't even write the Quraan.. His youngest wife (who he wanted to/and DID marry when she was SIX years old wrote the Quraan.) SIKHISM CAME LATER and has NO FLAWS AT ALL :D PLEASE DO NOT CLICK ON THE FOLLOWING LINKS IF YOU ARE A GULLIBLE INDIVIDUAL!! Highlight to reveal links: http://www.answering-christianity.org/convert_christians.htm http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch13.html http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/4229/women.html IMHO, that is just what they say.. Since when have the Muslim women ACTUALLY been given rights? They have to COVER THEMSELVES for flips sake...!! Why do they convert??? Cuz Christianity oppresses women even MORE than Islam!! ANDDDDDD... Take a look at the so-called "proper" reasons for Mohamed's marriage with a 6 year old, please highlight the following to reveal link: http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/pedophile.htm ^^^Disgusting, and inexcusable!!! He said it was "LAWFUL" and God's wish for him to marry a SIX year old girl!! What kind of a GOD (I know there's only One, but work with me here..) would send a so-called "spiritual" msg to a person, asking him to behave like a pedophile?! Muslims argue, saying "That was because it was acceptable then." God is TIMELESS.. God is PERFECT.. God is the ALL-KNOWING.. God NEVER EVER EVER EVER wants/wantED a person to be a pedo.. That's just unacceptable and disgusting, and deceiving a young girl. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I was stating facts, and I hope people can understand that Islam isn't the answer. I am not trying to make people hate Islam or Muslims. Just understand that Sikhism has everything positive and perfect to offer, which is not offered by any other religion in the world.
  9. JUST COME TO CANADA, MAN!! Visit Toronto, Ontario. It's the best place on Earth for a relaxing visit!!
  10. Why are you giving such senseless examples? I am actually offended by the above statement. People should think more than just twice before discussing this touchy subject. .......... You're right about many spiritual beliefs, traditions and ways of worship being based on tribes, cultures and such.. and that tribes, and nations such as Romans, Aztecs etc contribute to the creation and the ways of a certain religion. HOWEVER..We shouldn't relate TODAY'S societies and their effects on religions to those from/in the PAST. We're not living in ancient times right now, so race does should NOT be a factor AT ALL when it comes to religion. Not today, anyway. My statement is true. Cultural values may affect religious values, but race does not affect religious values. Race has NOTHING to do with religion. We live in a time where we interact with people of MANY different cultures, religions, beliefs, nationalities, and races. Many individuals are married to someone that is NOT of the same race, but DOES follow the same religion. I can’t seem to understand why you would believe religion (Sikhi) does/should not accept/allow a couple to marry just because they are of a different race. Our Guru Jis never rejected any race. You do not choose the colour of your skin, but you DO choose the religion you wish to follow/reject. Please do not state your personal reasoning without looking into the facts. .......... Approximately 20 years ago, in cities AND villages, most of the people were not aware of the proper way to get married (Anand Kaaraj) at a Gurudwara. Most people did not do the Parkaarmaas! They would sit through the entire ‘Anand Kaaraj’. Even today, that still happens…. Not to mention the fact that the lower castes are usually not allowed to even marry in a Gurudwara…even if they ARE amrit-dhari!!
  11. Not really true .. in North India the reality was that the presence of foreign invaders and elements meant that the culture always veered around to being protective of women and keeping them sheltered out of unclean eyes. however in South India, you can see more or less how women were/are left to their own devices and left to do their own thing. I wasn't relating it to the different parts of india/the world when it comes to this topic. I'm, strictly, relating the sexism (within the Hindu community) with the religion, Hinduism. Their religion teaches them what I had listed in my previous post.
  12. Race is not the question. Religion, beliefs, values and morals are the questions.. As long as those are clear, and accepted and respected, race is not the issue. There is no difference between a black man, brown man, white man, asian man etc.. RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION
  13. Yes...since SIKHI TEACHES EQUALITY!! :lol: Correction, culture is not always unfair, there are a lot of nice things in our culture as well and unfortunately we are losing a lot of them today. As with everything in the world, there are positives and negatives. What are these nice things within the Punjabi culture, that the Sikh religion does not necessarily teach/promote etc?
  14. I'm not directing this comment at 20legend..but.... People need to stop calling these girls 'stupid' 'dumb' 'not sikh' 'despicable' etc....
  15. In my opinion, we are taught to see others as sisters/brothers and mothers/fathers in order to eliminate lust, and to help build/maintain a sense of trust and a willingness to respect others. Only a couple that is (to be) married should ignore the 'sis/bro/mom/dad' thingy when the individuals think about each other...BUT that's cuz they're MARRIED.. Their relationship is completely different compared to others. When people reach the time in life when they should consider marriage, they are (expected to be) more mature, and that's when they should be told to keep away from kaam. Telling people to view the opposite gender as a sis/bro helps prevent unacceptable/immoral behaviours/actions. Think of it this way...... Innocence in childhood days...people teach children to respect others by telling them that everyone else is a sis/bro which helps the children respect others the way they would respect their sis/bro.. Adolescence...people keep the children grounded and away from kaam by reminding them that everyone else is a sis/bro would help prevent/eliminate immoral/disrespectful/kaamee actions.. Near marriage time...people try to remind the adults that the person they are to marry is the sis/bro/daughter/son of someone (just like their family is) to prevent possible kaamee thoughts/intentions, when the focus should be on the possible soul mate, not the body etc.. It's not only applying to individuals of the opposite gender!!! If everyone ACTUALLY saw people as sisters, brothers, mothers and fathers..there would be a lot less crime rates, domestic violence, and, of course, sexism..(along with all the other psycho activities out there) cuz people do not wish to harm their family members. It's not just about teaching people to respect the opposite genders as they would treat their sister/brother...it's more of a 'Respect others like they are your own.' ...or... 'Treat them the way you would treat your family.' way of thinking. This allows people to love and respect even strangers, which creates a better environment for everyone. (Just my views.. Please don't bash me..) ...peace
  16. The latter. This energy does not have a conscientiousness..but instead provides conscientiousness, which then, of course, leads to actions.
  17. No offense.. I'm not trying to act 'smart'..but I honestly think that my post was not inappropriate or offensive. Sorry for the misunderstanding. ..and how can you give me a pre-warning with a smile..? lol ..I almost thought it was a prank
  18. Compared to most religions, Hinduism actually accepts sexism a lot. I'd say Hinduism and Islam degrade women the most. In Hinduism, a woman is never to be left as an independent individual. She is to be accompanied by her father. If not father, brother (age does not matter). If not brother, uncle. If not uncle, husband. If not husband, male cousin...etc Although "TIMES" have changed..changing many activities/morals etc..this is still a part of their RELIGION. It is NOT their culture, but in their religion to accept these types of attitudes towards women.
  19. The best place for you to go to in order to gain such knowledge is a santhiyaa class. I suggest you start reading Gurbaanee first though. Jap Ji Sahib first..then go to Santhiyaa classes. To be quite frank... Online forums and even websites (plus many books) are not the greatest for providing someone with the knowledge you wish to obtain. ...peace
  20. _/\_ No disrespect to Singh above..but I would suggest reading Jap Ji Sahib first. To understand and feel Jaap Sahib, you should understand Jap Ji Sahib.
  21. To merge back with/into God... God is not a place, person, animal, thing, sound etc.. God is shapeless, colourless, without gender, timeless..etc. Do you doubt this existence?
  22. ...... Where on Earth do ppl get the IDEA of even QUESTIONING whether alcohol in Sikhi is allowed or not.. **Please note slight sarcasm in my post** No idea, but yah it would be nice if u came down to my area (Birmingham), then i'm sure you'll see that the state of many sikhs is messsed up and many of them yes question and i perosnally think it is good, as from questionning they learn, this is not just the case with many sikhs but also with non-sikhs, we tend to question other religions (maybe u do or dont), well i do just to gain information about their religion aswell aswell as my sikhi too so that i have enough gyan to be able to answer others when they question me on my beliefs and be able to pass on the code of coduct that our gurus have set us. The reasons for my sarcasm in my previous post was to show how ppl question Sikhi when it comes to consuming ALCOHOL.. It's OBVIOUSLY not a good thing to get into.. EVERYONE knows that, but they still question it. That was one of my reasons for the sarcasm. Day by day..more and more teachings in Sikhism are being proven as 'correct/proper ways of life'. The people who "doubt" something like alcohol being as a forbidden/unacceptable thing in the Sikhi way of life obviously are the ones who wish to drink it. I've been to Birmingham 3 times now, and I can say that I'm glad I don't live there.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use