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  1. Again you are showing same 'sickh' mentality by regurgitating same bullsh!t again and again and again... You have not address the OP till now! Just same old farts of yours b/c apparently 13 michies are stuck up in your assss and you are desperate. Why not talk what is the problem with OP? Why flying here and there? Why is this anger? Can't understand this...
  2. Absolutely! If two individuals who love eachother and care for eachother consensually have safe sex with eachother, then how can law stop them? (SARCASM INTENDED ON SECULAR MORALITY! Apparently, some brainless idiots can't get it unless I write it here.....)
  3. Its funny that your posts are directed at me while you quote someone else? lol... Sikhs living in UK are very frustrated creatures. Mirpuris would've done bad things to you guys for sure...very bad things.
  4. Express Tribune? lol...Its a joke...wait, its BEYOND a joke. Nobody cares what this piece of sh!t western-agenda driven pseudo liberal newspaper has to say. Dr Alvi IS right. Co-education is not for whole Pakistan... People of Pakistani tribal areas will prefer segregated education..whats wrong in that? Educating masses is important, and this should be our priority...if some areas want segregated education then why not? Its not that only Talibans want that..In tribal Pashtun societies, mingling of sexes is frowned upon for centuries... Also, Tribal areas only account for 3% of Pakistan's population....
  5. We do condemn terrorism on media ... Btw, if you haven't noticed, status quo in the West suits us...globally, world is going multipolar which again serves the interest of global Islam Inshallah..So why do you think we need to make extra effort to change something, when everything is going OUR way as we speak..Mashallah
  6. So when your plan has been executed...and everything is settled...how will things look? Will Islam vanish from earth? How will Muslims be different then as compared to today? Also, if your plan local for U.K or you want to put global Islam to its place?
  7. Can you explain how? Or it is part of a 'secret' plan? :lol2: Also, who are "their" that you are referring to?
  8. Source? Lying isn't allowed in this forum as per mods. Give credible source that general Muslim population was thinking like that?
  9. Thats actually pretty accurate. "Demanding"? lol..Yes, there would be some idiots preaching that either you convert to Islam or rot in hell...but guess what? It doesn't matter. Christian preachers preach this message openly in their satellite television shows with millions watching...On college campuses, Christian preachers come and spew hatred against homosexuals, call sexually active girls as 'slutsss' and have the same message " If you aint true christian..either convert or rot in hell" ...Know that personally... How many Muslims preach these things in UK? may be 300 out of 3 million? lol..Anjem Chaudry doesn't reprsent Muslims... What do you mean by that? Everyone in U.K has to follow the law of land...Give me examples of how some Muslims don't have to follow the law of England? Yes, some Muslims might rant that they don't believe in constitution..they believe in God's law blah blah..but it doesn't mean that don't have to follow the law while others have to...
  10. lol..Why would a Muslim write this piece which doesn't represent Islam in a very positive way? Probably some indian wrote it...indians have habit of spreading lies against Islam on international forums...just look some Sikhs here who bring Islam into everything? To the bold part : Are you being sarcastic or serious? What do you agree with and if so, then how come the OP generated such reaction here? I mean..."why" people reacted to the OP in this way? I'm still failing to see that, other than the fact that people here have deep sense of inferiority-complex/anger/helplessness regarding Islam? What else it could be? Also, you called the OP as the most stupid thing you have ever seen in this forum..and now you are saying that you agree with the OP for the most part? What is it? Can you actually explain how you feel about the article? This is creating alot of confusion.... Sorry if I missed them...I had so much on my plate..also , with no regulation, everything becomes messy. Even now, Mods are not taking any action and some inferiority-complex stricken sikhs are posting anti-Islamic propaganda videos on EVERY THREAD..even when it has NOTHING to do with Islam..
  11. Sardar ji, no one said that this was written by an American solider. I already explained this. Come out of the sea of your inferiority-complex...relax..take a chill pill..go back..and READ again! Probably then you'll not act the way you are acting now...
  12. Again..no reply on OP lol...just crying and crying by inferiority-complex stricken sikhs...
  13. Nothing is wrong. Muslims are doing just fine in U.K! What you'll get here in this forum are bunch of ghetto youth exaggerating everything...Both communities have 'ganday andays' (rotten eggs) who cause trouble...but other than that, Muslims and Sikhs at large just live their lives fine.... [Mod Note] Lies will not be tolerated on SikhSangat.com. Please provide any news article references. Just because you're not in QC, it doesn't mean you can blindly post baseless claims. We know how to deal with the problem without crying about it on internet...
  14. Again, all the crying babies moaning their own inferiority have not quoted the OP and dissected it. lol..Again, "what" exactly is so horrendous about OP that has extracted such reaction out of poor champs here?
  15. These areas (Egypt, North Africa, Syria, Upper Middle-East etc) were under Byzantine Christian Empire...Iran/Afghanistan etc was under Persian Empire...both of these empire were the super powers of their times and very brutal and militaristic vast states...so they had much more than just the concept of warriorship... hahaha..first thing..Shalwar is worn by even indian males..isn't it? Also, Shalwar is like jeans...worn by both males and females....there is a difference though in male shalwaars and female shalwaars..being an indian..you should have known that..no? Already ruling 50+ countries/nation states lying globally in Sub-Saharan Africa, Euro-Asian plate, Indian Sub-continent, South East Asia , Central Asia, Europe, North Africa, Middle-East, Levant etc...Mashallah! What else we need? Not to mention vast territories in China, Russia etc where Muslims form the majority and have more autonomy than Sikhs of Punjab (specially the case with Russian Muslim Majority regions)...
  16. Nice.... A very nationalistic-propagandist way of describing history..Look at the choice of words the author uses....Anyways.. Btw, guess who owns balakot and all other contested areas today? The so-called 'Political Islam' (not that a thing called political Islam actually exists lol) :biggrin2: I agree with John101 though that Pakistan is the ultimate expression of Political Islam in sub-continent...It shows to the anti-Muslim bigots that Islam is here...and it is here to stay Inshallah!
  17. lol...You are such a gullible goat running around that your post does not even make sense. Your posts contains so many 'banned words' that I can't even make sense of it...So go back again..read my post...and "respond" what exactly is your problem with OP? Stop acting like an idi*t and take those 13 michies out of your arse....now I understand the logic of your username... Calm your behind down...take those mirchies out..and DISCUSS whats wrong with OP by quoting it...what will such name calling achieve?
  18. No its not. It only said that this article was posted in an American Military forum..it no way says that it was written by an American officer... Oh Mehtab veeray, kairi country 40% Muslims haigi aa? Te othay de Muslims ki khnday aa k bai everything by our way at any cost? lol..Don't think so there is such example...People talk about Muslims as if they are one monolithic race with similar traits etc... PS it wasn't my post...I just copy-pasted it...thats why I liked it :D ..but khair, unliked krti aa mein...jay eh gal lokan nu aithay thora sakoon daindi aa te Amazing. Can you just dissect it and show how it is stupid? I want to see from what perspective you are seeing this piece.... Wait, what does sound like my 'dream'? Can you stop sh!ting like a diarrhea effected chicken and "quote" from the article and point out how stupid it is and how it is just a 'dream' etc? As far as I can see..author doesn't even say anything about Islam conquering Srilanka, forget the world.... Who is Abu Adeeba? Again showing insecurity? ...I thought you have insecurity with Islam..heck, forget it...you have insecurity even from that Abu Adeeba whoever he is...lol...
  19. Oh...my....goodness! The level of inferiority-complex, insecurity, and hidden contempt and helplessness of Sikhs regarding Islam here is just out of bounds! No...I mean NO ONE...got the point of whole post.... I can't even understand 'what' got such a reaction out of poor inferiority-complex stricken insecure sikhs here? Probably the words like "strongest" and Islam together? :lol2: Author never said anything like "Muslims are the strongest" or "Islam will dominate the world" ...it only stated that Islam, according to him, is the 'strongest ideological force' .... Stalinism was an ideological force...so is following of political parties...its also a form of 'ideological force' ... What I wanted to ask was how people felt the way the author described Islam..by using rather negative connotations..and loaded words....such as "Islam ingrains itself in the mind of the follower" ..or that "it controls everything of a man" or many other such things...These things are not positive to be said to any religion...I wanted to see if people here have a similar perception of Islam? But Lo behold, the deeeeeepppppp sense of inferiority took over and people just lashed out not on the article..but on their own personal insecurities that they somehow saw in the article. What is "islamic propaganda" in this article? Where does it say "Islam will take over the world"? Where does it say "Infidels must be killed and Muslims are best"? The amount of insecurity running through Sikhs here is just Amazingggg!!!! I seriously wonder how bad Paks Muslims are in UK that have made Sikhs act this way?
  20. Oh veer ji, who is forcing burka on Western women? Who is telling Western public to follow Sharia? No one is. Criminals are in every community...but Muslims of West don't expect anyone to follow our law... Also, Muslims do know that west will never become under Sharia..West is West...not Nigeria, Pakistan, India, Sharia-Zone, China what so ever...
  21. Oh we're playing the quoting game? No, only kids do that.... "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome." - Sir Winston Churchill Oh dang! You started playing this game... My quote was related to the topic in hand..A contemporary leader making a comment about a contemporary phenomenon in his country... Churchil didn't know jack about Islam..nor was he an intellectual to make such comment... And I think we can both agree Churchill will forever be considered a FAR more important and much less annoying Prime Minister than David Cameron in the eyes of nearly everyone . Churchil was just an English hitler..who cares what he says? lol...His views of india and indian religions weren't any better..Its funny to see you jumping around on what churchil says about Islam..but you will go quiet about his views of indians and indian religions... :biggrin2: Er... Anyway I thought you were American? How do know what it's like to live in British towns and cities? Or are you simply ASSUMING that problems are just being made up? Videos on Youtube all being staged? Are all the tons of arrests linked to grooming false? I have alot of friends from Britain...We live in a global village... I'm afraid you're simply wrong, people of ALL races and faiths, men and women are siding with the EDL now, it's not just white working class male chavs. The EDL have recently swollen in size after the Woolwich incident and will continue to do so, more and more floodgates are opening. Yeah yeah yeah...people of ''ALL'' races and colors blah blah...seems like you are also one of the EDLer.... Not to mention, there are 'Defence Leagues' popping up in almost every Western country, and they're all networking together. These 'defence' leagues are a joke. Nothing to care about..Just platforms for racist people to gather and cry.... Sharia isn't welcome in Britain. Any of it. Muslims just have to live without it. Who are YOU to decide that? If Muslims want to practice Sharia in their personal ability, no one has any right to stop them. If one doesn't want to drink or pork b/c they follow sharia...who are you to decide against it? That means... No Halal. Please...spare me this bs. No halal? LOL! If Muslims want to eat halal, what is your problem? Europeans are dumb enough to try to stop halal or anything. This will cause huge uproar among millions of Muslims living in Europe...Halal industry is a growing industry in Europe. Europeans can't and won't do anything against halal... If Muslims choose halal meat for themselves, what is your problem? No Burqa (or any face covering for that matter including balaclava's). Personally, I don't care about Burka. Hijab is the part of Islam, not burka. But if some girl willingly want to wear burka..then what is your problem? No Sharia Law courts. Yeah whatever... No building more Mosques than necessary in an area. Guess what? Its Muslims who get to decide how many Mosques are needed to cater the needs of the community...you don't decide what is 'necessary' for Muslims...Buzz off... NO OTHER RELIGION goes against British Laws, that is the point Bigotry and Islamophobia... There IS clearly an Islamification of Britain going on, but that time is over now. Muslims are free to live in Britain, but they have to follow the same rules as everyone else and they don't have a choice. Same rules apply on Muslims as on everybody else. Muslims don't have a '
  22. An article posted/discussed in an American military forum filled with retired American military service personel.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Global War on Terror and West's relation to Islam in context of Islam's standing as an ideological force in 21st century... Well, Islam is probably the strongest ideological force humankind has ever seen. Islam is not like any other religion. Islam is a VERY , VERY strong and complete ideological framework that has religious , political , social , economic , spiritual , military ,and legalistic aspects to it. History of mankind has NEVER seen such a solid and consistent ideology. Whereever Islam went , it ingrained itself in the soil of that land (the only exception is Spain where Muslims ruled 800 years but then driven back. Balkans were just under Turkish rule but never had any significant Muslim presence or cultural influence). Graham E. Fuller in his book , "A world without Islam" , writes that Islam has got great vitality and it is culturally, economically and socially very strong. People used to "mentally-m*sterbate" that Islam thrives in poorer countries etc but in the last century , this myth has been practically debunked now. Countries like Turkey , Malaysia , Indonesia , Saudi Arabia , Qatar , Kuwait etc etc are very rich and prosperous (and Western in case of Turkey) but yet , Islam not only survive but it THRIVES in these lands. Unlike Christianity , which is a dead religion now in the West, Islam is a very influential religion. Wherever it exists , its followers practice it. Even the Muslim communities in the Western world take Islam seriously and practice and live by their faith. Islam "self-grow" itself by Islamic finance. Islamic banking is now over a trillion dollar industry and growing. Islamic halal industry is worth $2.5 trillion and growing. Islam practically holds a HUGE chunk of geographic area (~ 30,000,000 sq. kilometers) and has significant presence in Western China , India , Russia , Europe etc .Islam is literally present in EVERY SINGLE NATION ON EARTH!. Now Islam is moving to the "New World" for the first time. Islam also has one of the largest, most comprehensive law-code in the history of mankind. ~ 1.8-2.2 billion people all around the world get influenced by Islamic Shari'ah (directly or indirectly) in one way or the other. Islam presents itself as a "total" ideology covering all aspects of life, it gives it's followers a sense of a shared culture and brotherhood, and a sense of emptiness to those who begin to doubt it.Islam legislates almost EVERYTHING of a human being. It controls them completely. From food to sex ...from marriage to divorce..from personal cleanness to manners of using toilet etc. Islam plays role in everything and this make its followers to start recognizing with Islam. Islam just ingrains itself in the mind of follower and even if a follower leave Islam , he/she won't come out of it for ever! (I know many such people who still wear Hijabs , don't eat pork or drink etc just because they WERE Muslims. Now it has become a part of them). Also , Islam has a VERY strong culture. Muslim girls would not date a "non-Muslim" guy and their first preference will always be to look for a "Muslim" boy (experience from high school/college lol). Even if Muslim girls have sex , kissing , dating etc with "non-Muslim" guys , they will very rarely marry them. They always marry within their community and produce their offsprings under the strong Islamic umbrella. (Why is he talking about this? ) All these facts make Islam , I think , THE STRONGEST religion/ideology on the planet. It just doesn't go down. French ripped their ****s off to convert Algerians but after hundred years of colonialism , 99.3% of Algerians were still Muslims. . All this show that , as Karen Armstrong put it , Islam just went stronger , stronger , stronger and stronger from the day Muhammad started it. Also , about 60% -70% of Muslims worldwide are people who are "young" and hence they'll be getting into their "productive age" and will be reproducing in coming years. Which means ...surprise...Islam will grow even larger! Above that , Islam is a self-perpetuating ideology that starts growing when it goes to a new place. Islam conquered many nations , and instead of despising it , those nations started spreading Islam even further!!!! Today, Islam is only expanding ...politically (Arab Spring) , culturally , economically , religiously , legally, militarily etc etc and it looks unstoppable ...just like it has been over the centuries!!!! Now many people (both in the West and Muslim world) see the ongoing Global War on Terror as a conflict between "West vs Islam". I think that in order to win this war, West must dispel this message. Radical Islam (Terrorist Muslims in other words) make up just about 0.00093% of total Islam. So, we must make that distinction first. Many Muslims are conservative, anti-West , and what not--but they are "good people" in a sense that they would NEVER kill any Westerner or would harm any Western interests. The "radicals" who actively fight Westerners etc are less than 1% of total Muslim population.So the message from our leaders must be clear. We are not here to take on Islam. We are here to take on radicals that harm Muslims more than anybody else. United States must actively work to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This is the biggest 'issue' between West and Muslim world. We can not neglect this. We must not neglect this. Islam is a global phenomenon--Even if 3% of Islam gets radical or become 'out of control' , this world would slip into utter chaos and global economy would fell like a pack of cards. How you do think we can win war on terror? Remember, it can't be won by using conventional force alone. Radical Islam employs advance Asymmetric Warfare Mode. Force alone will actually accelerate our defeat in this war. If 0.00093% radical Islam can cause THIS much trouble, I can't imagine what it would be if, God forbid, even 3% of Islam becomes "actively radical against West" ...This would lead a major global war. This war might end in American military victory but will harm our interests. Muslims have nothing to lose here, but we have everything to lose. So how should we deal with the situation? I think we must support moderate forces in Islamic World. We must heavily support science and technology in the Muslim world. Education, economic build-up , and political stability are other factors too. We must also dispel this perception that we interfere in Islamic Countries and we oppress the Muslims. We must promote democracy in the Muslim world, even if it brings Muslim Brotherhood in the power (Which aren't radical terrorists as some fox news pundits might want us to believe). Over-all, United States is here to stay..Islamic World is here to stay...We must learn to live together with mutual respect and co-operation. ---------------------------------------------- This article makes sense over-all, keeping in mind that it is coming from "Americans"..Atleast this dude does a bit better job than Faux News 'experts' of "Islam"... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/235538-2013-west-islam-global-war-terror.html#ixzz2X7eJ8r63 ================================================================================================================== I got this article from the above source. This piece was originally posted in an American military forum from where someone posted it in above forum. All the color schemes, highlighting are same (with one change) as it was in the source where I copied it from. I thought that it would be interesting to get the opinion of members here on this piece. Do you agree with the article? Disagree? Agree with some points while disagree with others? What you found interesting? Give your open opinion of the article..specially I would like members like Mehtab ji and Johny101 veer to comment here..... So what do you think? Does his description of Islam close to what you think? How is he wrong/right? ...
  23. "There is non sicker than the EDL" said David Cameron. Somtimes, politicians utter such truthful words.... We are talking about EDL and not Tommy Robinson here.. I don't care if Tommy makes sense, talks sense, or is media savvy or not. But the point remains that EDL as a group is racist. EDLers are extreme racist people and you can see that on their facebook pages. Even English are fed up with them. Only jobless nutjob youth go to EDL 'marches'.... Can EDL supporters tell me here what is the goal of EDL and how do they plan to achieve it? There is no so-called Islamification going on in England... Muslims are only lik 2-3% of the society..Sharia courts are there just like Jewish courts are there..for personal disputes, household stuff, and marriages/divorces issue. This aint no Islamification...Also, there courts are legal and allowed by British Law and governing bodies...Who are bunch of jobless nuts to call them "Islamification" when the law of the land doesn't see it as such? I never heard the 'jewishfication' argument for Jewish courts doing exactly what Sharia courts are doing...double standards much?
  24. Well, Chinese and Islamic Civilizations didn't go against each other on strategic level...I meant to say that they both respected each other's power in previous times. Regarding China killing Muslims..thats not b/c they don't respect Muslims..it is just that they will supress ANY threat to their internal integration/stability. Chinese even murdered millions of Christians to suppress their rebellion...it doesn't mean they don't respect ' Christians' ...its just that Chinese are ultra nationalist and they are brutally brutal against any insurgency/rebellion rising within China against the mainland Chinese rulers... Pretty accurate Muslims will like a mult-polar world ...and we are going towards that..so mashallah its good......it serves us our interests well...
  25. hahaha...Muslims know that. I think you don't know..but Islamic Civilization did face Chinese Civilization once....Central Asia/Turks used to be under Chinese influence..forces of Abbasid Empire and Turks/Chinese forces collided to have control over parts of central Asia...Turks betrayed the mainland China and Abbasid Empire won the battle..later on, entire Central Asia fell to Islam ...but even though Islamic Empire was the super power of that era, Muslims never launched any major attack on mainland China...They knew how vast, powerful, and viscious Chinese were (are still are)... Here is the battle I'm talking about.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Talas Islam and China always had mutual respect for each other..Our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) also talks about China in respectable terms and call Muslims to go to China to get knowledge...One of the earliest mosques in the world is in China which was established by the companion of Prophet Muhammad... There is a sizeable Muslim community in China..... But yeah, I hope there is no strategic conflict between Islam and China....Most of our interests are mutual though.... Also, West/Israel/U.K didn't go benovalent on Muslims..it was the opposite..Muslims went benovalent on West/Christians/Israelis/Jews etc ... Ottoman Empire sent their navy to protect Jews being expelled from the Spains...Jews always had it better under Muslims while Christians persecuted them as no other....but we all know how Jews returned this favor... :cool2:
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