ParwinderSingh

Gur Fateh Jio

we visited anandpur sahib and saw the exact place where Guru Gobind Singh ji held diwan on that day. its down that steep bank, from keshgarh sahib.

the area is just some bare land, nothing on it, i cant remember if there was signs but basically its got a fence around it and some litter there. I was quite disapointed when some singhs told me this was the very place the 5 piyare took amrit. maybe they only use it at events and really clean it up, but no one seems to know about it or be too concerned................ but everyone heads to the main gurdwara sahib,

whle im complaining, i might aswell add the sarovar needed cleaning in march 2008, I did ishnaan but it seemed that it hadnt been cleaned for a while, they might have been waiting til vasakhi tho..............hmm

okkii dokki

my point wasnt that YEHH WE SOO SHUDNT USE MAYA BLAH BLAH... just IMAGINE

never mind... : )

thxn everyone

i know what you mean! ..........................its something to think about ........

but to the arguements that have been put out.

as sikhs we are to live in maya but remain unattached........i agree........

we should not go to the forest etc etc and leave grishti jeevan................ also agree

but those who do go to the forest can also be liberated, as have done in the past. and those who live in maya can be liberated...................

but what is the point of living in maya if you dont try to unattach yourself.............many many people have said to me, we have to live grishti jeevan, and God gave us maya to use...........but they just use that to justify themselves.......... very few actually attempt to get attached...........but you can live a grishti jeevan with out tv, msn, internet, and playstations and millions of other things........... ppl need sometimes stop using gurbani to justify there use.............as somethings are just bad for us and stop us from progressing, and we should minmise its use................

this is the same sony neech who is sucidal?

if your having these dreams? then does it make u feel better?

http://www.sikhroots.com/audio/Keertani%20...har%20Ghori.mp3

http://www.sikhroots.com/audio/Keertani%20...20Pia%20Gia.mp3

does anyone know where they live or stay in india? or how to contact them>?

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Gurfateh ji

dass will be in touch soon, with the newcastle kirtan darbar video/ audio......... we had a camera man for this, and he hasnt got back to us yet.......

i STRONGLY recommend that ppl download the Sri Nagar Wale track - i was lucky enough to be there in edinburgh and the piyaar in that shabad as well as the meanings that veerji told the sangat were out of this world!!

yup i was there toooo................................first time i heard bhai sahib do katha actually...........

WJKK WJKF

did i read it correct?? "am i an inspiration to you all??"...... veer ji, i am kukar of my guru ji and as a kukar, its my duty to bark. please do ardaas that guru ji bless all of us with his kirtan di daat.

i have learnt one thing.... the more you share- the more you learn.

so please learn kirtan your self and teach others.

bhul chuk maaf karni.

wjkk wjkf

Jarnail singh jee, i will be getting vaja in about 2-3 months when i have time, and i will see if i can help u out with some seva since i basically sit at home all day being a lazy @ss.

i'll let u know hwo my kirtan progress comes then i can try and see what help i can be in the future... keep ur eyes peeled after 5-6 months, ok jee?

ur an inspiration to us all!

gurfateh

my dear brother, the law of the universe...............what you give with a open heart, will come back to you ten fold, dont worry it, you wont find a masive bundle of shabad notations (ten times more than you give us) on your door step tomorow, you will experience in other ways ................. selfless seva.................its all Gurus Kirpa, you are his sevadar, and we love the sevadars!

sounds like a giani from the ghetto

seriously these guys would be better off talking normally, I think people would listen more......... that rap stuff is just silly .......... young peple gona end up like idiots if we dont give them the kirtan, bani, katha which has created chardikala gursikhs who were ready to give their heads, yet had to much pyaar and done so much kamai..............

Vahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

Saadh Sangat Jio

Please give us your Darshan at both

South Shields Gurdwara - Khalsa Mera Roop Hai Kaas - Wednesday 23rd April 8pm

Newcastle - Gurdwara Sri Singh Sabha - Thursday 24th April 8pm

We would love to serve sangat coming from near and far.

If you need help finding the Gurdwaras or transport from train or bus stations or overnight accomodation or anything else please email to

NorthEastSikhSociety@#

why did you come on here to tell us you wana die? .........why make a thread on this? Im wondering..... you either want attention or you are making it all up......... or I would rather hope that you want to find answers, to your problem, your maybe thinking there are answers and by saying online someone will help you.....

If you want that help, contact that helpline.....

Basically without the Guru you cannot be liberated, Guru ji via amrit is going to lead you to Akal Purakh........ so you can die and suffer and keep being incarnated until we get the human life again....its a extremly slow and painful process.. . . try to meditate and seek good company, stay away from meat, alcohol, and filth, then you body will feel better.........

personally instead of dying you might as well do some seva of poor people, or get a job and give you money to those in need......... why waste a life when you can save others...... ppl a living in wars, little kids starving with out families, and so many other problems........they would do anything to be in your place....... Guru ji is showing his love to you personally by providing everything , this is why he gives you clean water, a warm bed, clothes and food...........and so much more...... the Shabad is all about love, it is the fundamental criteria...........i think your just confused you need to get to that helpline.........

awesome kirtania

im sure there kirtan was on ikirtan.com but cant remember the names of the shabads..........

Fateh ji

sounds like a good idea if all the pros can help us get some anand on our sqeaky bajas it wud be great kirpa...... and penji could forward it to me also

i wudnt mind learning some kirtan which bhai sukha singh has done......... its always a nice sangat style kirtan

Gur Fateh ji

I would like to use these photos as part of a poster theme at the Gurdwara, anyway I can get them without 'panthic org' written across it?

do any 3HO members on the site have any statement to make?

agree disagree?

lol

I would have to say he reminds me of most 3HO Sikhs

i owe my sikhi to '3h0' sikhs, Guru did kirpa and lead me to them, infact i would claim to be one, what is ur problem jio.....

punjabi 'sikhs' have been knwn to have shaved their hair, drink, do drugs and alot of bad things, in 1984 they went against our own people and plotted against our own Dharam. in 1947 and before they contributed to masacares of their own people. ............... in america, in england bad things have been done, but those individuals only tarnish their own jeevan, the Dharma is as pure as Guru Gobind Singh bestowed upon us.

there are bad apples everywhere, dont let things make you put divides in us. to be honest, this made me stronger, i prayed to guru ji, and thanked him , that it wasnt me, i was so shocked and it made me think how lucky i am to never faulter from sikhi........

lets work on our lives and experience the true sikhi , and let others follow........

during the days of wars with singhs in the past, when Gurus were givin shaheedi and sahibzadey jis were giving kurbani, times were alot worse and julam were bigger........ lets become stronger!!!! and unite!

He was arrested after the Directorate of Revenue Intelligence (DRI) received an anonymous tip.

lol whenever they say its an anonymous tip and random checks happen then its as if its all set up.

on a serious note, drug problem seems to be increasing.

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone from the forum is visiting India this summer b/w June 28 to Aug 4. I kind of need help about to's (how, what, where, when etc.) [i know its kind of early.. but just want to plan it as its my first trip.. ]

best thing to do is not to plan it................. just and enjoy ur time and where ever Guru ji hukam takes u , itl be beautiful. Amritsar , Anandpur Sahib are possibly two places u might wana spend some time at, as there are many historical gurdwaray full of sikh history around these areas, or simply just to enjoy the khalsa spirit and connect to something outa this world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ive been learning martial arts for five years,

im quite disapointed at what i hear. martial arts no matter what kind arnt meant to be mastered in a short period.

if you want to defend your self then there are many courses or clubs which teach you things in a short period. punches , grappling, or basic kicks, they also charge more and will teach you so fast, you will probs only walk away with limited knowledge and no practice..

but learning a martial art is a different game, you are learning an art. Its not about money, but if its gona take 5 years to get to black belt obviously you gona have to pay for the lessons. some clubs can make u a black belt in 6months or even sooner.

but without practice and training for many years you cant learn the art or pass it on effectivley. I know from experience, i used to get sick of doing the same kicks and moves ,thousands of times and thinking whats the point. but now its become part of my natural reaction.............

the misunderstanding which alot of ppl use to undermine martlail arts is things like the wrist lock.

typical statements like how can u use a wrist lock against a punch or jab' are silly and ignorant comments.

when you are taught a wrist lock, they show you how to do it, probably in a basic scenario,

but in a real life situation u only use it if you see the opportunity, so if you see their wrist exposed supose if they grab hold of you, or a situation where you think it will work then you use it, otherwise you use a alternative move. do these ppl think wrist lock is the only defence against a punch?

each move is efective, but you must b able to decide and have the sense to choose which defence or attack to apply, this is why you need to have them trained into your subconsious ...................

Vahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

Anon Penji,

do you think you could get notation for this kirtan????????????

preety please, when you get some free time? loll it is awesomeeeeeee

http://www.sikhvibes.com/kirtan/Sadh%20San...20govindhaa.mp3

''Islamics are really after us'',

that made me think , they were after us since Guru Nanak Dev jis time , since their encounters with Guru Arjan Ji, Guru Gobind Singh, from the time the Sahibzadey were bricked in a wall, and murdererd.................and thousands n thousands of other times, not since you had an encounter.

But Khalsa fights injustice, we are in no position to go against Islam , there a muslims of this day and age who would remind us of great saints like Baba Fareed and Mian Mir and many more, we do not hate, becos God does not hate, there is only love and forgivness

HMmmmm..... well im gona be in the European Hapkido Chapionships, which is a Korean Martial Art, i dont see my self as some sort of sports professional tho, its just somat I like doin, well ok its been 5 years now......

:s ))))

oh n i train and participate in my dastar, n hopefully in three weeks ill have to find a way to wear the siri sahib also.... any tips will be welcomed............

:D :D

Thanks for everyones replies Miri Piri academy in Amritsar seems to be the best option for someone of my bros ages. Also we're probably gonna go look around Guroo Nanak Sikh School, Hayes.

If anyone has any personal experience with either of these two schools could you please tell me a bit about your experiences.

I think Miri Piri Academy is the best choice ................ only those with great fortune get to go there. the kids are brought up doing seva at Harmandir Sahib and learning about sikhi, wat else could you want to give someone...............

i cant comment on any other school becos iv have never been there or heard of them

no body in this thread, has mentioned the real reason for cold water showers, and why we should take them,

this isnt ritualism, i know alot of apnay are stuck in rituals, but lets not always jump to the idea if you dont know, then it must be a ritual, we are humans, and it is for our benifit to take cold water showers, bhai nand lal ji had a greater reason, and we are the ones who lack faith and gyan.

This DOES NOT MEAN I am saying cold showers are compulsory or anything like that, what the Panj Piyaray say and what others say i do not know. but i did mention the science behind the cold ishnaan, maybe someone can research it on SIkh Sangat........................

Vahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

Sadh Sangat Ji,

I would like to invite and bring to your attention that there will be a

Rhensbhai Kirtan Darbar

at

Newcastle Gurudwara Singh Sabha

on

Friday 11th Jan 2008

From

8PM until 5AM

We are blessed to have alot of Mahan Kirtan Jathas attending

-Sant Niranjan Singh Jawaddi Kalan Wale

-Bhai Ajeet Singh ‘Jeet’ Delhi Wale

-Bhai Kuldeep Singh Delhi Wale

-Bhai Panja Singh Sunderland Ragi Jatha

-Bhai Ravinder Singh Jamu Wale

-Khalsa Mero Roop Hai Kaas Gurdwara Jatha

- Other Gursikhs who would like to have Kirtan Seva can let Jaswinder Singh know on the day.

http://www.boss-uk.org/index.php?option=co...&extid=1528

The link is for contact details, or you can PM for directions and or other information.

Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha

Tindale Close,

Newcastle Upon Tyne,

Tyne And Wear

NE4 5SA

0191 2738011

kalajug mehi keerathan paradhhaanaa ||

In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises are most sublime and exalted.

guramukh japeeai laae dhhiaanaa ||

Become Gurmukh, chant and focus your meditation.

aap tharai sagalae kul thaarae har dharageh path sio jaaeidhaa ||6||

You shall save yourself, and save all your generations as well. You shall go to the Court of the Lord with honor. ||6||

There are a small amount of funds still available if anyone would like us to contribute towards sangat coming in coaches, PM me for more details.

The North East Sangat have been Blessed with 3 Rhensbhai Kirtan Darbars over the last 3 weeks, so awesome!!!

my advice to ppl is that from the outset, we should have asked for the Singhs reginment number and contact details, something which could be used to verify the facts

over exageration of facts and accusations with no hard evidence is useless, and those who wanted to help may have wasted their time on this..........what could have bee something so serious and important...