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Everything posted by sikhiseeker

  1. Yea agreed no nutrition for the body and no nutrition for the soul. Totally different from jhatka.
  2. Penji I can't understand what you wrote, what was you saying about the cardboard box? kinda gone over my head
  3. Again, puranatan sikh did hunt and consume meat agreed. However for today's sikhs my point is if your not prepared to kill the animal because for e.g you haven't got the heart. But your all at the ready to eat it, whether it's a chicken or a cow, then that's simply just a convenience for you within your diet. You will only understand what it means to eat meat when you Jhatkaa the animal, skin it/de-feather it's carcass, gut it, butcher it and then cook it. This is when even the meat eater will become a vegetarian because it's this very process which has been removed making it so easy to consume a animal, removing the messy part. That's why there's no daya in mcdonalds or asda...etc meat products. If your Amritdhari sikh and want to eat meat, hunt or kill the animal yourself and perform jhatka.
  4. WJKK WJKF A Sikh should only consume meat if their prepared to Jhatkaa it themselves. If you have not got the ability to Jhatkaa a Cow or a chicken or any animal, then don't eat meat.
  5. WJKK WJKF Please do not slander something which you do not understand or have no knowledge on. Dhan Dhan Baba Vadhbagh Singh Ji helped and still helps through his shakti today. No where in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji does Mahraj tell us that sikhi is against an exorcism neither does Mahraj ji say that spirits do not exist. The Bhooth Preth possess a persons consciousness. Not everyone is affected by this. The majority of humanity is possessed by their own 5 vices. However for this percentage which suffers spiritual issues has support base through Gurbani and Dhan Dhan Baba Vadhbagh Singh. Bhooth Pret, Jamm Dhooth and even Dhan Dhan Baba Dharamraj ji have no jurisdiction over a Khalsa sikh....but not everyone in the world is a Khalsa sikh! That's why Baba Vadhbagh Singh assists other people who are lost. The blessed guru himself is a relation to Dhir Mal. So please do not tarnish Baba Vadhbagh Singh Ji with tarnished family members. We all have them right?
  6. WJKK WJKF LOL maybe we should suggest this veer ji starts off again and get some "horrible histories" recorded of cbeebies on his playback and at least back himself up with some realistic factual views.
  7. WJKK WJKF Is that the one where when they even behead him his head flies of the Thalie so the musclemanie wasn't even able to touch his sees after shaheedi!
  8. WJKK WJKFI think the reason is because Muslims do want to eventually achieve a majority in numbers around the world. The halal food method was used in our gurus times where the moghuls only legally permitted halal slaughter- another reason why sikhs still carried out jhatka in defiance of that law. Is your kids school in Muslim majority or minority?
  9. WJKK WJKF The devte and devia are extra terrestrial beings. They have been known under many names and forms all around our planet over many ages shaping human existstance as we know it today due to the technogy thy posses and the higher intelligence they have than our human form. However they too just like us humans have to battle with the panj chor to attain waheguru.
  10. WJKK WJKF The halal meat industry is a joke here in the uk anyway. The funny thing is most Muslims won't eat halal meat done in uk slaughter houses due to British Laws stating that the animal has to be stunned via a bolt gun before slaughter which is against the halal slaughter method because they believe the animal should be not stunned. Sad thing is, halal meat is in uk schools and hospitals without anyone really knowing so it's on a national scale even where there is a Muslim minority.
  11. WJKK WJKF I can't help in clarifying what's happening here, but what a joke. Feel so sorry for those poor singinia. Shame
  12. WJKK WJKF Lucky I didn't go to the vaisakhi celebration because my son (4 years old) likes kirpana and guns and likes to be armed to the teeth with toy swords and pretend Army guns. Khalid Mamood would of had him arrested for affiliation to KZF lol because he potentially could of been a risk.
  13. sikhiseeker


    WJKK WJKF Brother, there is only one Amrit and one Khalsa and there should only be one rehat. The jathebandi you should be apart of should be that of Dhan Dhan Shiri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Mahraj. If you and this sister were to have Anand Karaj, you should make what I stated above fact and teach your kids of this jathebandi and of the one and only Khalsa. The guru gave us sovereignty within ourselves and Khalsa raj first starts within us individually so brother, lead the way the guru and your Khalsa panth intended you to!
  14. WJKK WJKFI did read your post accurately, but for the benefit of doubt il read it once again for you as you suggested. I'd suggest you read what gurbani has to say about nimrata and how sikhs should address one another. Mithi jabaan will get you along way brother. I also think you should read my previous post one more time and maybe consider stop calling yourself a sikh and start calling your self just a jatt and a worshiper of your caste and clan leader. Be an embassodor in what you believe in, not in something half heartedly because to be a sikh, you first have to give your head. I don't think you fit the bill because you can't even give your ancestry up. Jatt claim Dhan Dhan Shaheed Baba Deep Singh ji as a jatt and not Khalsa. When will we hear the jatt claiming Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji as a jatt and not Khalsa?
  15. WJKK WJKF Why would you support and suggest a movement to make a gurdwara purely based on caste? How is this in anyway good for sikhi. If you wish to continue to carry on endorsing the jatt caste you should not say your a sikh of the guru. Because the guru is against the hierarchy of any caste. There is no justification for your view in gurmat. It is simply manmat. As I have said before on this site, you should return fully to your jatt roots and ancestor worship. Light a diva for the jathedar of your clan and be in ore of your ancestors. Live and breathe your jatt ancestry, but leave sikhi to the gurus sikhs.
  16. WJKK WJKF The reasoning behind why our Gurusahib ji's married our dhan dhan mata ji's are above and beyond the caste issue. It's silly to bring this argument within the debate. Dhan Dhan Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh Ji married Dhan Dhan Mata Seeto Bai, beloved daughter of Dhan Dhan Baba Lakhi Shah Vanjara.
  17. The poster "Quantivus" has highlighted the problem with this very subject within his/her post based on their personal opinion. It is not about building SEPARATE caste based gurdware or counting how many Sikh contributors to the faith were of jatt ancestry. That's the point right there. These individuals did it for sikhi and the panth which preaches no caste lol? They gave their lives for the tenets of Sikhi. Until we see all our mahaan shaheed as contributors to sikhi and the panth without looking at caste, we can then move on. It does not just affect sikh from mazhabi ancestry, it affects us all. The usual arguments will come into debate like "who did the gurus marry" and "what caste were they". Fact of the matter and fact based on gurmat is caste has no place in sikhi. Either in marriage or either in contribution. Only when you condemn caste supremacy issues, can you really move forward as a guru ka sikh. Guru Nanak Dev ji, denounced his caste by not accepting his janeu. He then in later life adopted farming. Surely this demonstrates that a job is a job. Over time anyone can become professional within their profession. However it sea that over time, we still have not adopted Guru Nanak Dev Jis sikhi and moved forward with him.
  18. WJKK WJKF It's kinda sounds like your justifying it due to other groups now doing the same caste segregation. Again other groups segregate themselves onto castes however it is only the jatts what act as supremacists. Why don't you just condemn the jatts and the others for doing any caste segration rather than in away say " they do it, so will we"?
  19. WJKK WJKF Obviously the other groups you mentioned do.....without going into the usual debate that's the usual caste based issue again. But when have you watched a film with a "Tharkaan sikh" (a contradiction in itself) being the pinnacle of what a sikh should be? However no group claims sikhi to be their own more than the jatts. You only hear jatts claiming mahaan shaheed as jat and not Khalsa. Just look at the topic to do with the film "Ardas" a few weeks back...and watch the YouTube clip of ghughi and his views on Shaheed Baba Deep Singh as "Jatt" lol. It's not the number of jatts what causes the superiority complex, it's what they think and say before and after accepting Amrit what is the problem. If one believes they are "better" than someone genetically and ethically just because of their ancestry, it's wrong right? That's the problem. Alil like the Nazi Ideology of the supremacy of the Arian Race.
  20. WJKK WJKF Yea sounds about right....still today within sikhi the jat strives for some form of supremacy over other sikhs within sikhi continuously taking it back to their leanage. A jatt what took Amrit and became Khalsa will always be considered Khalsa, until they then marginlise themselves as a "jatt sikh" and marry within caste and continue to do so misunderstanding and misinterpretating the gurus sikhi for caste supremacy. Usually justifying it with ridiculous notions.
  22. Veer ji, so what proof are you after on the existence of pistols within guru sahibs time or the word pistol itself....what proof are you actually after?
  23. WJKK WJKF found this vid online by national geographic showing an example of a 16th century PISTOL: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/lords-of-war/videos/16th-century-pistol/
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