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  1. WJKK WJKF Veer ji, it is never about being wrong or right, winning or losing an argument. It is simply a difference of opinion which as you rightly say is based on individual and personal circumstances. I always try and stop my Krodh when I hear about Islamic terrorism in the headlines by thinking about the life of our Mahraj, Shiri Guru Gobind Singh. After all what atrocities the Mughal rule and Aurangzeb did to him personally, Guru ji still never treated every Muslim with revenge or held them personally guilty for the martyrdom of many of the Khalsa panth. This is evident in The Zafarnama an his actions after it was written. This topic also reminds me of when shaheed Bhai Moti Ram Mehra gave shaheed Mata gujri ji and our mahaan shaheed sahibzade hot milk and water from the kitchens of the moguls. I'm sure that this would of been deemed halal, being from the kitchens of the mogul general. The main thing we Sikhs lack in this age, is forgetting we were once warriors who fought in hand to hand combat in battle. Yes, today's warfare has moved forward with automatic weaponry, however I feel we as Sikhs should still know how to defend ourselves, our families and anyone around us who suffers injustice. Our kirpana were given for a physical reason too. This is why it is important to be fit and learned in some form of realistic street fighting style if not shastar vidiya.
  2. WJKK WJKF Bhen ji, I disagree with your post in the sense that IMO it's kinda like alil superstitious in a sense. Accepting food made or from the hand of a Muslims is not kurehat, it is simply a deed done living within akal purakh wahegurus world. To eat only from a gursikhs hand shows no equality. The langur concept demonstrates equality in food and people. Would you not eat food from a Hindu, Christian or a Jew too, Or just a Muslim? As all these religious ideologies are very different to our own?
  3. WJKK WJKF Veer ji, I totally understand all the above points you have made however I don't think that me buying a loaf of kingsmill bread will contribute to terrorism. The halal sign on food items like vermicelli uncooked noodles probably serves the purpose in most cases, of notifying the Muslim that it is permissible within their maryada. I see nothing wrong with that. On meat it is a different issue, as my point is their is no halal sign even when it is halal and the consumer should know. Yes, there is a huge problem with Islamic ideology fueling terrorists once again like Aurangzeb, however this fight will take place inevitably in combat on the battlefield in all our countries. Terrorism will always be sponsored, the governments of the world only disclosing info on what they want you to know and nothing else hugely affects this debate on terrorism. However, I will treat people including Muslims as I would with anyone, on a individual level. If someone wishes to try and convert me, I will follow in the footsteps of my sikh brethren. If you were living in Delhi, would you boycott the halal sign there veer ji? Would you buy veg from a Muslim?
  4. WJKK WJKF Their is no gain in boycotting the non meat halal market, however everyone should have the right to know what slaughter method was used when purchasing meat as a consumer. Many Sikhs would argue halal does not concern sikhi as "we should be vegetarian and not eat meat anyway". This is were it falls apart and their is no unified opinion. The boycott should simply be based on the consumer's rights on knowing if the meat is halal, as if it was based on anything else, it would just fall into the islamaphobic trend and be thrown out. By using business law, we may be able to get meat labeled so that the consumer can make the choice of buying halal meat.
  5. WJKK WJKFveer ji, it is only meat in which the Muslim will carry out Dhabiha, the halal slaughter method. Any other none meat item like veg is deemed halal as that it is permissible to use/consume. However in some products like make up, only an animals fat can be used which has undergone halal slaughter in order for it to be certified halal, but products like toothpaste for example have no prayer, just checks that non natural chemicals like alcohol have been added. Hence why for example, a sikh in Pakistan could consume the veg which is deemed halal however not the halal meat, as it has undergone Dhabiha. For a sikh, his/her hands used to grow/rear, harvest/hunt/jhatka, then cook an eat by their own hands is the best method if possible. In today's modern world it's hard to do this though as many of us live busy lives.
  6. WJKK WJKF The halal label on Kellogg's and foods like Bread states to Muslims that is permissible, meaning it can be consumed or used. Hence why Muslim women will use halal makeup. A sikh can consume such foods which are vegetarian which fall under halal, however a sikh cannot consume halal meat, if a sikh is to consume meat, it should be jhatka as stated my the Rehat Maryada and The Akal Takhat. The halal meat industry is undercover within the uk definitely. The majority of meat is Halal slaughtered and goes uncertified. While the E.U have brought new legislation in the uk for food outlets about stating allergens within every ingredient used, it fails to state whether or not an animal has gone through the halal slaughter method is most cases. Whether we are a jhatka eating sikh or a veg eating sikh, halal should be fought due to the treatment of the animal during slaughter, being simply killed with no compassion or dignity.
  7. WJKK WJKF It will probably be better if us OCI/NRI's realise that really we need to do something about our sikh history in India as the Indians are to busy with their own agendas. Just like how we plough money back into our pinds/cities/homes in Punjab/India improving the standard, maybe we should have an international pot to catalogue/repair our histories treasures....again this would then result in who to trust enough to handle the money? But out of the sikh coming up nowadays, I'm sure we could find someone.
  8. WJKK WJKF The buildings are simply bricks and mortar, the teaching is divine and outshines any man made structure. Maybe we could right on the sign of our gurdware something simple like non Muslim, sikh temple church building, everyone welcome, please come in to the gurdwara. Simple.
  9. WJKK WJKF The Akal Takht represents the final authority on controversial issues concerning the Sikh Panth, in this regard the issue of meat eating has been settled. Hukamnama issued by Akal Takht Jathedar Sandhu Singh Bhaura dated February 15th 1980 that Amritdhari Sikhs can eat meat as long as it is jhatka meat and that eating meat does not go against the code of conduct, Kurehit, of the Sikhs. Thus a Sikh cannot be excommunicated for eating meat. Anything consumed should be for the benefit of the tann and not for the taste, whether it be saag or a pheasant. However if a sikh is to eat meat, it should be hunted or killed by the sikh and all it's carcass used.
  10. WJKK WJKF Jagsaw Singh has stated all valid points on this topic. The thing is, the headlines in the news we receive will always be edited the way in which the government wants the world to view the situation. Just like the BBC and the coverage of 1984. The fact that some Sikhs view is that it's total wrong the way these people have acted is valid too, there were other roots before taking the sword however, we cannot stand on our high horse and act that we're so open to critism of Sikhi. As again, one sikh mentioned, we do not have any body act/voice over our guru sahiban. At the end of the day, yes Islam is the cause of many of the worlds problems at present. But as people on the street, we know it's not a clear cut story as we all think. When EDL protests were happening in my locality, the small Pakistani Muslim community and small sikh community both helped one another as both the mosque and gurdwara had been attacked. Day and night security was set up whilst the Muslims went to pray by the Sikhs and the Muslims guarded the gurdwara with the Sikhs during the protest. Whether we agree or disagree with many points on religion and ethics, respect on a personal, street level is another thing. The fact of the matter is, the majority of people still will think a sikh is a "p*ki" and Muslim. They do not know we're Sikhs and don't care. The Sikhs who fought in the world war have been forgotten by the west at best, as the gowvernment once again used the Sikhs. No documentary comes on prime time TV about Indias soldiers including Muslims. No rememerance takes the names if the nations and people who fought alongside them in counties up and down the uk. My point being, all brown people are known as rag heads and ultimately "p*ki". The west will not aknowledge their role in playing the terrorist. The French paper has no right in their radical constant p*ss take of what other people hold sacred. However other methods could have been used, in our own history, should shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh and Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh of maybe protested in striking from work, held protest rallies at side gov. offices? Why as Sikhs, do we then celebrate their judgement on the matter?
  11. WJKK WJKF Jagsaw Singh, spot on! It's easy for us Sikhs to say we would of reacted better, however it wasn't our prophet and if it was, I'm sure many a sikh would see red.
  12. WJKK WJKF I'm sure where ever anyone is critical about your jatt caste, you will be sure to have all your pro jatt spiel at the ready for the promotion of your jatt Sikhi caste, if there ever was such a thing!
  13. WJKK WJKF Rehat maryada states that we should have antim sanskar firstly via creamtion, however if not possible jal parwah is permitted. Many shaheed singh/singhnia were unable to be cremated in circumstances such as warfare. However some sikh believe that the body can come of use here by being recycled by the earth or being consumed by other animmal/fish after the atman has left. Maybe the reason why jal parwa method might be specifically chosen perhaps?
  14. WJKK WJKF Whether you believe in Sikhi or not, there is a universal truth and being, which is the creator. Science cannot explain everything as people are lead to believe. Irregards of any name or organised religion, the believe of waheguru should be within your own soul. If it is not...find it. No one can make you believe in Sikhi, only you can believe in Sikhi and waheguru. This is the very reason why we are here. Many "Sikhs" don't believe in the tenets of Sikhi themselves. In life, we all go through difficult times and it is in these times where you will either find the support of waheguru or not. This will be decided by your mind at the time. When one is happy with their standard of life, they don't need waheguru, one will only call upon satnam when their in need, it is only the believer who needs the name constantly, in happy and sad times. As it is your mind, which is your biggest hurdle, nothing else. I hope that you will find what we are all searching for in this life.
  15. WJLK WJKF That's great sikhia for your kids. Thankfully, I live in a rural part of England so I take my kids hunting quite often, I have some land too where we grow veg and rear some livestock. The outdoors is great for kids for learning, so many kids are just cooped up at home nowadays because of technology and the kaljug samma we live in. But keep up the good work!
  16. WJKK WJKF Couldn't of said it better myself, spot on Bhen ji!
  17. WJKK WJKF Bhen ji, it's great to hear your personal story, it sets a excellent example of sikhi being raceless. Unfortunately, if many of our own panjabi Sikhs understood that sikhi was also casteless, the panth would move forward quicker and more united. However as you see on this site, many so called Sikhs who declare their ancestry in pride act like their beacons of the faith at the same time indulging manmatt and living by their own personal maryada, yet in individual cases people like your father show what a true Gurmukh would do!
  18. WJKK WJKF Bhen ji, it's great to hear your personal story, it sets a excellent example of sikhi being raceless. Unfortunately, if many of our own panjabi Sikhs understood that sikhi was also casteless, the panth would move forward quicker and more united. However as you see on this site, many so called Sikhs who declare their ancestry in pride act like their beacons of the faith at the same time indulging manmatt and living by their own personal maryada, yet in individual cases people like your father show what a true Gurmukh would do!
  19. WJKK WJKF Bhen ji, in the ideal world we wouldn't need to do so if all Sikhs followed the hukam of our dasmesh pita and educated and progressed both their shakti and bhagti and not just their Bhagti,
  20. WJKK WJKFThe "Brown man" being so caught up in western culture and fitting in, forgets his own religious tenets and calendar and is happy to play his part in full "integration" at the cost of his own religion, being more naive than the indigenous white man of the western country they live in. Just like how Sikhs were once so frightening at the eyes of the British as they were warriors of unseen abilities. Now most of us wear ornamental swords what we don't know how to use and are fat from eating aloo gobi crisps and fizzy pop.
  21. WJKK WJKF Happy new year to all sangat.
  22. WJKK WJKF Sooooo horrible what's going on there. Some Muslims wish to bring sharia law to the world, are these the justified horrors which sharia law brings in the eyes of these Muslims? Mahaan paap by so called religious people. These monsters will pay a heavy price, they believe in shaheedi and martyrdom yet they do not understand their physical death will be a celebration and only bring joy to the world and it's people that they are physically dead and cannot harm another innocent person wrongly in the name of Allah. Their souls will be tortured for the wrongs they have commited here and the martyrdom and shaheedi they think they will be awarded is nothing but a bribe by their imams and the notion of ISIS. They will suffer and then be reincarnated from point one!
  23. WJKK WJKF Yea that's true, but the same stands for many many sikh girls too, wearing dastaar...make up....eye brows trimmed....with the skin tight leggings and also the same for sikh men. I think what the big difference in sikhi and Islam is, is that there is equality for women and in Islam it is not as such.
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