BSingh87

You know your self and what you want. Whenever I wanted something I knew it, I have never gone onto a forum asking others to tell me what to do with my life. Secondly, you do not need to quote Gurbani. Gurbani only tells us about uniting with Vaheguru. When Gurbani refers to living in society all it is talking about is earning a honest living e.g. having a job. Marriage is just an addition. Ignore those who misquote gurbani (1268) like Singhbj. We are all Vaheguru's soul brides. There is only one marriage that is important and that is the one with Vaheguru. Every other marriage only exists to assist in doubling Naam Bhagti but the truth is if you truly love Vaheguru you will be able to find vaheguru easily and quickly without the need to double your bhagti. Also, ignore those who are telling you that you will become weak to temptation. It may be their own flaw and weakness but not everyone is the same. Most of these people look for marriage for the wrong reasons. Like Berserk said, if you do want to get married you need to look for a friend. Otherwise a greater friend can be found in Vaheguru if you decide not to get married.

As Singhni Miri Piri has stated, it shows weakness in Sikhi if Guru Sahib believed that. Guru Sahib has shown numerous times in his life that sikhi doesn't hold a place for weak human insticts and survival. In JKVLondon's example, I would accept death by starvation happily knowing I had no access to vegetation. No Sikh should be afraid of death. All your claims about Guru Sahib allowing meat is false. All these stories are made up. A "Sikh" who kills an animal is no Gursikh but just a person dressed up as a Sikh. This type of person will be punished in the afterlife for harming animals without doubt.

You obviously do not care to hear an answer otherwise you would ask these questions on the gurmat bibek website or any of the mentioned Sikhs in person who are there to answer questions like these which I already stated in my previous post. Also, every Sikh that takes amrit from AKJ are told to call themselves Guru Gobind Singh Jee's Sikh, not an AKJ follower.

Don't worry, you aren't the only delusional person out there who lacks 100% understanding of Bhai Randhir Singh Jee and AKJ, and has done nindia of him. What this so called "Sikh", if this person even exists, told you for the reason why people join the Jatha, is completely false and nonsense. You obviously have not met many Sikhs associated with AKJ to generalise to such a ridiculous extent. This shows your ignorance, actually your whole comment showed entire ignorance of AKJ and Bhai Randhir Singh Jee. If you want to understand AKJ, don't talk to children, talk to an elder like Bhai Jarnail Singh Jee, Bhai Tarsem Singh Jee etc in the UK or talk to Gurmat Bibek Sikh such as Bhai Kulbir Singh Jee in Canada (he will rip you into shreds in the most humble and compassionate way lol). They have a forum you can ask questions on, http://gurmatbibek.com/ Or why don't you read Bhai Randhir Singh Jee's books for starters. It's funny how Sikhs who hate AKJ insult Bhai Sahib whereas Sikhs associated with AKJ do not do the same with other saints who have different beliefs but instead respect them. Lastly, you must truly be kidding yourself if you think Bhai Sahib was a egotistical devious person, he was extremely humble and honest. I have nothing further to say, no need to waste my time further on this.

There is nothing wrong in judging someone's fault. It is stupid to be blind just because he was a Sikh.

Why did Maharaja ranjit singh attack his own people (sikhs) who were known as 'misls' and conquer their lands? Also, what was Ranjit Singh's fascination over a stupid diamond, Koh-i-Noor diamond?

Well done. He is a good example of a Sikh.

You're a twisted "Singh" and your views in your comment are twisted as well and completely go against Gurmat and everything Vaheguru believes. Guru Sahib worked hard to bring about equality of women and to show the world that both genders have the same roles and status and are not limited to men. Men do not hold a position higher than women, that is just in your delusional egotistic mind and those of who agree with you in here. It's a view held by Muslims and for men who should be living in caves. Remember how ONE SINGHNI, Mata Bhag Kaur Jee brought sense, truth and courage back into the 40 SINGHS and led them back to helping Guru Sahib due to their weak nature and abandonment of Guru Sahib. Men did not create Sikhi, all other religions were created by men as they all have rules that favour men, but not Sikhi, Vaheguru created Sikhi and Vaheguru is formless. He is only represented as a husband symbolically, just as we are all represented as brides including the men. There is nothing else for me to say on this, so argue all you like with yourself.

Keep on talking to God like you are doing, God is listening and even if God doesn't respond it doesn't matter. But the more closer you connect yourself with naam and bani the more God will listen and will eventually respond. God doesn't respond because we lack true love, compassion, innocence, selflessness and humility. And you will obtain these virtues from naam and bani as Gurbani states numerous times. Naam and bani are there to perfect us. And naam comes from taking Amrit. But preparation for amrit is very important. You are doing fine as you are right now, but keep on learning more and regardless of learning and coming more into Sikhi never stop talking to God and never let intolerance, ego and cruelty come into your being. Finally, even though naam and bani perfect us and turn us into angelic beings with an abundance of virtues, remember to always practice these virtues yourself in your mind, speech and action, virtues like the ones mentioned above. There are a lot of Sikhs who do not practice those virtues but still think of themselves as perfect sikhs. In Japji Sahib, it tells us that Compassion is the Father of Religion. So, if a Sikh lacks compassion how can they call themselves a Sikh?

looool the video cracked me up! Look at 0:40 - "You shouldn't be worrying about science anyways".

Sorry for going of topic – last post (mods please allow this). Firstly, this has nothing to do with it whether it is allowed in sikhi or not. Secondly, I would never listen to the Akaal Takht – how many rules have been changed there and how many indecent rules do they have e.g. females cannot do kirtan at harmindar sahib and how about giani gumukh singh musafar of Akal Takht made it non-mandatory for women to wear a dastar just because his wife stopped wearing it. The rules at akal takht change according to their own mentality which has nothing to do with Gurmat. Thirdly, what I am disgusted is that you are saying that homosexuality is one of the signs of corruption in the world and that we should live like 2 decades ago when there was more hardship and cruelty shown to homosexuals. Homosexuals cannot be forced to be any other way since that is the way they are. Sikhs believe in reincarnation – being born as the opposite gender in their next life they might still have emotional attachment (not always kaam attraction) to the same gender just like those who were of the same gender in their previous like will still have it for the opposite in this life. Sikhi also teaches compassion, therefore we should be far more understanding than that and that doesn’t mean we allow it in Sikhi but you are treating them like filth just like Muslims and Christians do. You’re showing you are no different than them and that you have not learnt anything different from Guru Sahib compared to those religions. What is also funny is that rather than picking on the real crimes around the world like trafficking, IS, rape gangs, African women being raped, North Korean prison camps, you are more concerned about the openness of people's sexuality. Also, just so that you know, 2 decades ago, people were more open to smoking, less constraints on crime, less vegetarians, more openly racist- would you like to live in those days where people lacked common sense in those areas. Yes people are becoming more promiscuous but that has nothing to do with sexual orientation and the other things you mentioned like incest, paedophilia, zoophilia- any of this cannot be compared to homosexuality because either they cause harm to one another or it is not consensual. It makes me laugh that you think being gay is animalistic as if straight relationships are not- it is all animalistic. It’s quite clear what state of mind sikhs have, they just have a bully mentality similar to the west who they hate so much. You people belong with each other.

The existence of khalsa is pointless if they don't destroy murderers, rapists, paedophiles etc and save and protect the innocent because one of the qualities mentioned in gurbani is to become a parupakari. Also, in jaap sahib one of Vaheguru's qualities is to destroy tyrants and to protect the innocent, and a sikh should be aiming to achieve all of vaheguru's qualities and become a pure embodiment of these qualities, hence a khalsa.

Dharam won't be established as long as people do not understand the meaning of compassion. I would like to see the day when all people living in this world become disciplined, understand between right and wrong, are selfless, compassionate and honest among other qualities - whether they choose to be sikhs or not is up to them, but i would welcome them any day compared to the sikhs we have now.

You must be mad to compare homosexuality to incest. The world isn't black and white, there are different kinds of people living in it, not just straight people. It's not a trend and its not something to cure, its how they feel about who they are and something we should respect and support. To compare it to kaam is ridiculous too, as if straight people are perfect and non-kaami people when I've even seen young sikhs getting married because they are attached to kaam. People who think this way are living in a small, sheltered world, and a world that they do not understand. Just because you are in a religion that doesn't mean you are confined to a certain way and cannot be open-minded...other religious texts speak more openly about denouncing homosexuality compared to Guru Granth Sahib Jee which doesn't. Guru Sahib is more open-minded that is why, plus as Gurbani states other religious texts are false and I can understand why, they literally feel as if they have been written by men living in a certain time, accustomed to a certain barbaric and narrow-minded way. Guru Sahib thought outside the box regardless of his time period e.g. he preached gender equality in a time when men were so proud, cruel and stupid not to understand such a concept.

Yea I noticed that too, it seemed as if Sikhi didn't exist. It does mention the corruption of the world being based around false religions and corrupt people, but regardless of religion or not, there are a lot of people on this planet who do not have a religion but are better than those with religion. Additionally, I think the story of Kalki is just a story about something he does it doesn't mean Sikhs wouldn't exist in the world, Sikhs would have their own story. Even if he is a Sikh, he will be a false sikh nonetheless, even if that means he knows his future and that he knows he'll become egotistic but it’s to prove some point, he's still meant to represent a false Sikh. And I believe there will be false sikhs in the future, that doesn't mean they won’t be practicing the physical and some spiritual sense of sikhi, it means they won't be practicing sikhi to the heart of Gurmat - they will lack the right qualities and judgement, therefore making a lot of their actions false, heartless and selfish to only benefit their own people. We shouldn't really worry about or wait for all these figures like kalki, or a gurmukh like sant jarnail singh, baba deep singh etc to come into this world and take care of everything. There are a lot of wrong things that happen in the world right now like you said, and we should be thinking that we ourselves should take care of it and give peace and protection to the innocent (innocent not meaning only people with religion) but everyone. Look at North Korea for example or the rape of women in Africa etc. If we cannot physically help these people we should at least devote our naam and bani to them, and for ourselves to be gifted with the power to one day be a hero that protects and saves these people and others around the world.

Kalki avtar isn't a pooran gursikh, we all know that he becomes consumed by his pride and demands everyone to recite his name. He doesn't represent Guru Gobind Singh Jee, which a Khalsa is supposed to represent. Therefore, he cannot establish khalsa raj if he is not one himself. Stop being so blind to the facts.

Your understanding of the line is wrong. I've had discussions over this line with older Gursikhs, who are very knowledgeble and well-versed in Gurbani, years ago and they have said it is referring to Guru Sahib, not to Mohammed. The only true prophet is Guru Sahib, all else are false due to being under the influence of ego and haumai.

Well said!

We all know that those who slander anyone especially those of a pure heart are cursing themselves. When did I say in my post that what these cartoonists are doing is good and fun? They lack morals and that is why they do not understand that to respect others is to show understanding, maturity and care but they think it shows fear and lack of “freedom”. So how do you respond to that? By showing them that you lack even more morals by killing them? Or by dealing with it peacefully through protest and petitions? Your sense of Unconditional love and complete obedience is mistaken and doesn’t mean to murder a slanderer. Also, what does to fight back in defence mean? It means if someone is physically attacking you, you will fight in defence and that cannot be compared to verbal abuse such as the cartoonists. Shasterdhari? Sikhs wear a Kirpan to protect others, not to kill like barbarians. Atheism and agnosticism isn’t a crime and are not causing harm to others, and some of those who live under such ways have shown to be better people by living with each other more peacefully compared to some of those who are part of a religion. Many Muslims have proven this by killing others and even those from their own community and so have those Buddhists living in Sri Lanka by killing Muslims. Look at how segregated Sikhs are amongst each other. It is better to look at the positive side of everything, rather than insulting western lifestyle.

What these muslims did is psychotic, barbaric and evil and cannot be compared to the cartoonists. If the same was done of Guru Sahib, and "Sikhs" resorted to the same actions by murdering innocent people don't think Guru Sahib will have a smile on his face after seeing those who are supposed to be representing him behave like crazy animals. He would turn his back on them. Throughout Sikh history tolerance and peace was a powerful tool in Sikhi. Guru Sahib portrayed humility and tolerance in numerous accounts when he had been disrespected by others. For instance, Guru Amar Das Jee was kicked by Datu and did not show hate back. Guru Arjun Dev Jee was tortured in horrible ways and Pir Mian Mir wished to turn the muslim army into ashes with his shakti but Guru Sahib refused and told them that it was Vaheguru’s sweet will. In 1978, Shaheed Fauja Singh and the other Shaheeds went to have a peaceful protest, not to slaughter the Nirankaris, who were slandering Guru Sahib. These are all worse accounts than drawings, so wake up! Sikhs are supposed to represent Guru Sahib, we were created to show the world a better standard of living such as create a peaceful world, respect others, care, tolerance and protect others, not to put fear into others, bully them and terrorize them. In the end who would do the most damage to Sikhi and Guru Sahib, the cartoonist or the murderous "Sikhs"? I'm shocked that the people here are caring more about the terrorists than the innocent people who were murdered. Those people need to take a good look in the mirror and think about changing and becoming better Sikhs for Guru Sahib.

simran345, humility and compassion goes a long way. You disrespected the OP in a lot of ways, such as insulting her decision even though she's mentioned amazing things like doing seva and you expect equal "respect"?? We should think more about what we say because if it hurts someone it will most definitely affect our spiritual jeevan. The OP is a good person and shes shown that in her posts.

All the singhs/singhnia keep on doing is juggling meaningless and wrong opinions. No one can say not having children is wrong. No one can say why Guru Sahib did what he did. Those who did bhagti in that time had a general thinking that marriage was wrong if enlightenment and meditation was the aim of life. You could say Guru Sahib got married to show them that they are wrong and it can happen either way. And numerous Gursikhs have shown that. Anything that is not clear-cut in Gurbani is just speculating. To think marriage and children is highly important in Gurmat or generally in life is primitive, animals have children too. Nothing special. More special is to physically help people around the world that need help. Singhnia are free to live whatever life they want. They are not going against Gurmat. Those who say they are can just be ignored because all humans commonly are attached to marriage and children and feel intimidated when they see someone who wishes not to live that lifestyle. None of you singhs and singhnia who claim that marriage and children is Gurmat truly understand Gurmat. Gurbani also goes against the attachment of your spouse and children, but that doesn't mean you use that to say marriage and children is false. You singhs are not God, so you have no right to tell your sisters what to do. Again, Singhnia are free to practice what they wish as long as they are helping others and aiming to befriend Vaheguru, just as a married couple should be doing and Vaheguru Jee will be happy with that person. Also, someone mentioned an old line, which I've heard billions of times "How will Sikhi carry on?". The answer is: Vaheguru is in control, Vaheguru is in this play and will do whatever he pleases in it. This view sounds closer to Islam, which is a flop and failure. Vaheguru can spread Sikhi through others who are already living. Look at Buddhism, they should be extinct by now but most people love Buddhism and want to follow that way of life. This proves that Sikhs are not even practicing Gurmat properly if there is nothing encouraging others. Buddhists look really peaceful and innocent. The only things sikhs give great importance to is marriage and that's their purpose of having children so that their children have more children. We haven't even become a community focused on the practice of kindness, innocence, humility and meditation. Instead we are just living a normal marriage life and then claim ourselves to be following Gurmat.