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by their own definitions 2/3 of 'hindu' population can never be Hindu as they know nothing , can do nothing, or listen to learn anything about Hindu religion or principles....so in reality it is just a mirage of majority , if they carrying on killing, curtailing rights and beating down those dalits striving to improve themselves there is going to be a revolution on multiple fronts and they cannot call the police/army to save their BJP/RSS behinds...it is NOW that we need to outreach to those who have nothing , I propose that we help Biharis/dalits/low castes/no caste people with our daswand instead of SGPC gurdwarabuilding (destroying) and chori ...then do parchaar of equality and physical train them to defend themselves.

because the girls know that they WILL be killed , ours don't feel that level of fear or certainty of violence ,only of letting down parents, if they have no love of parents then there is nothing stopping them . With the whole materialistic punjabiyat mentality compounded with first world freedoms to earn and spend gives the means to do stuff their peers in muslim circles cannot , majority of muslim girls don't work without supervision of journeys to and from work , those that don't get picked up or have to report in are doing the same stupid stuff our girls are doing BFs and all that .

The first sangat we have is the family ...and that's why family life needs to be supported in gurmat living , educate the parents and the kids . Many people live in mentally abusive families who normalise alcohol, physical abuse and belittling of females if we change this to gursikh ideals then girls would learn their own worth, and their contribution to society removing the self-doubt/hatred which the sharks can sniff out

proof that what I was calling for is necessary popped up today again : http://1khalsa.net/2015/10/04/breaking-bhai-ranjit-singh-khalsa-dhadrianwale-receives-a-direct-threat-from-a-jathedar/ the other day I was amused to hear Makkard's ideas of who has a right to call Sarbat Khalsa ....I think if he cracked a history book he'd find that Guru Gobind Singh ji made Guru Panth Khalsa supreme above individual's http://1khalsa.net/2015/10/02/sarbat-khalsa-call-watch-makkars-anger/

the same way you took murdering for powers ...a little while ago and murdering a person for satisfying blood lust prior to that in this thread

this is the hinduising of our whole kaum's image ...and our foolish 'punjabi' culture chasing sikhs are lapping up this gandh.

Madam Preet I have to stop you there ...you said yourself you have no daya for meat eaters... that shows you are acting in a non-sikh mentality ... we do not choose our humanity according to the people but for all.

he was innocent of the crime he was accused of and what did his son have to do with it , why did they try to kill the son? Why did they mistreat the daughter and wife ? You probably believe like BJP lawmaker the perpetrators were misunderstood' they were just innocent children who got excited' God forbid any person has children of such foul blood ... You should be ashamed of your self ... you call yourself a human ...he attempted to kill an 18 month girl to obtain blood for the sacrifice ritual and failed then he planned , walked into the nursery, picked up the child unstopped, and took him home and murdered him . To me it looks like he had accomplices who helped me take the child out of the school during the day without detection, so that implies like you someone didn't think much of letting someone kill a child for a religious rite. I didn't generalise i said there is ONE ved which tells how and when to do such sacrifices, you have said before I'm sure that people who are of the 'Hindu' dharm spectrum do believe in the vedas , I never said ALL do. Who died and made you or me the dharam raj ? Judgement is Akal Purakh's alone and the wages of the individual's karam they will earn justly

I am incredulous that no one person responded at the murder of an innocent baby to satisfy some devi ...I know that one of the vedas describes in detail how to go about doing Bali of all kinds of creatures up to and including Humans ! How is no one talking about the barbarity of this alongside the murder of a totally innocent man ?

when I was younger I did not have blessing of sangat in my neighbourhood yet, whenever I started a new job or study place I would meet with people who were interested in doing bhagti and guftagoo from other backgrounds and together we strove on our respective paths . Later on, I actually read Gurbani which made me realise what was happening , no matter where we are in our lives Waheguru gives us a chance to thrive in sangat of true seekers i.e. sikhs it is the label of 'religion' that makes us fall into the trap of predjudice, it is the karni of the folk and their ethics, their love for Akal Purakh, their true acceptance of humanity. It is true the number of adharmi lok are posted in responsible places within our learning centres, places of worship is shameful . Guru ji made us citizens of the universe not just where we were born ... and because of that we have to spread the love and knowledge to accompany the journey to mission goal

If my Guru ji can make sparrows fight the hawk then he can make householders daler Dharam jodhey ...beshak ...dolna nahin besides as a very good video by Sukhwinder Singh ji nihang says it's a bhuleka - khalsa is nihang

sorry Veer ji , must have clipped the post was halfway in my point s ...

I think enough is enough , excommunicate Makkard and badal's families this is the second big date they have shifted , last one day was Guru Granth Sahib ji Parkash diarda https://www.sikh24.com/2015/10/02/sgpc-to-celebrate-birthday-anniversary-of-guru-ramdas-ji-on-october-29/#.Vg_OnPlViko the ways things are going they will leave every sikh confused on when to celebrate any of our big dates ... there have been reports of people turning up and picking old saroops without explaining where they are going to. All hands to the task of: preserving and making sure all others faiths know ALL of our important dates not just three days . Hindu's are busy writing Guru Teg Bahadur out of history and the sikh raj ,we need to advertise our contributions to WORLD HISTORY preserving our itihaasic gurdwarey correctly and sympathetically and prevent them from being demolished and replaced with cookie cutter marble monstrosties, removing the character and individuality of the Panth's Dharamshalas. reviving calligraphic pothian and Bir Sahib only and discarding print ones altogether , projects involving local sangat learning and writing bani to be given to others so 1. can track bani 2. value is felt by families receiving/giving (these days there is too much 'get rid of old one and replace with print) 3. Removing padd chedd Granths where incorrectly placed keeps us in line with panthic decision that only larivaar saroops should be installed. 4. most of all sewa of this kind blesses us with higher avasta.

until Paramatma gives me the boon of Pavanahari I am destined of partaking flesh ,whether of plant, fruit, or animal ...of course the least karmic cost to my bhagti is best choice but if Waheguru ji puts me in such a place where nothing grows and I am needed to complete sewa my duty is to stay alive and will have to consider the aprad of ending another jia's life . But honestly everyday I will kill many just by breathing , natural immune response etc I think honestly it is best not to have hangups about flesh since that takes away from thinking about Guru ji and doing Naam simran. No not every Mother in Indian says Gou mata or even thinks beyond the flesh value (milk, meat) because everyone is at different levels of awakeness , we know most people are sleepwalking through life in their agianta, especially those who value Murtis above humans and animals . Just read yesterday about a 4 year old boy who was kidnapped from nursery and was sacrificed , his blood offered to Kali for ridhia sidhia in India , any faith that thinks Akal Purakh is pleased by wanton destruction of life and habitat in his name is not worth the thought of humans . Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji who took us out of darkness and onto the path p.s. it is the height of ignorance to know that Muslims refer to this eid as BAKRI eid then think they will kill cows ? where was RSS when 35,000 animals were slaughtered in Nepal just before the earthquakes?? there were graphic scenes of countless majh, goats chickens etc getting hacked to death....oh yes this was to honour a Hindu deity.

it all shifting sands and mirages ...they are all making fools out of the panth ...

Haven't you guys been paying attention to Guru ji , that why we are supposed to sing kirtan and Akal Purakh de gunn :biggrin2:

madam was born the year of the olympics 2008 and she really got into the taekwondo , she was a kicker all the way before arriving and even when watching these women she would kick too ...I think she is designed for the fight , she doesn't back down from arguments easily even with her elders ..right is right and wrong is wrong .

I think she yelled 'yesss!' and did a fist pump when The Lady Eowyn killed the Nazgul king in 'Return of the king' movie. She saw two towers when she was five and loved when the lead orc was beheaded too ...

my first call would be to excommunicate no roti,bet sang with makkard, badal parivar, and bachana, excommunicate/aayllan that family of Jagir Kaur is not sikh as well because she murdered her daughter ,fire the new secretary...then select jathedar do anything else anything else

she's only seven but i have started on the whole warrior ethos via kurosawa and Tolkien and cs lewis

I superaware with m backround that my personal predjudices may colour the approach but also there are a helluva a lot of muslims, East european/russian immigrants newbies settling in the area but I do not want Isher Kaur to be too soft and open ...she's started jujitsu and I have had to talk to her about not letting people invade her personal space .

and then the A- Rabs believe themselves above all, the real deal , all the others are lowly converts 'dogs' was the Sheikh's words , and they say Islam has no jaat paat ....

it's the subject matter, not me and you . Being a mother I am always drilling in to the boys proper conduct and to be ready to step in if they see anything questionable happening and my daughter is unfortunately being made aware of the seediness of life at a tender age ...I worry for the hidden subconcious attack on our values through multiple channels ...on all our youth . The more the lads get sucked into the moral vacuum that is 'modern' living the more I see their grip on reality and truth slip . It is hard work but necessary to counter this all

I think the hero worship of Ranjit SIngh is fine but recognise his faults , he removed the institution of sarbat khalsa and placed the khalsa troops under other nations/creed generals (something that goes against Guru ji's advice) , he gave power and control to people who were sham sikhs and failed to secure his strongest charactered son as his heir to jathedar of all misls prior to death. Signing treaties with the British was another nail in the coffin of the Sikh national freedoms. It is easy to see that the Sikh Raj,which still thinking pakistani/Indian historians acknowledge as a golden age for literary, arts, military, political stability could have been so much more if allowed to continue southwards as the standard of life for those under the raj was brought upwards .

well obviously I know that his kind have zero chance of improving their fertility they are cutting their own noses to spite their faces , underage pregnancies, rapid fire pregnancies, genetic inbreeding , malnutrition, smoking, drug use etc., just pointing out for others how we are already armed with the knowledge to keep us stronger than others.