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maybe have a pop quiz on the spot : how many Guru Sahiban were there what is the last bani in Guru Granth Sahib ji what Is the mool mantar who was Mata Sahib Kaur ji etc ... if you have doubts , check it out . simples

remember steel gets stronger the more it is tempered ....best place start at home

this is what you get when you lose Guru ji's fatherly love and care ...a nation going to rack and ruin...pitiful ... if you know kids from such liasions , we should be a good example of what having a Sikh family is about and give them the love they missed out on .

divorce and marriage is becoming the plaything of greedy , prideful desi parents it is a sad thing to see ...are we no different than the Hindus or Muslims in our throwaway attitudes to females and children, shame on us ...

The main things to consider when selecting a perfume : 1. not animal source like musk 2. doesn't stain rumaley or tabhiya 3. subtlety - rose is said by many different sources to enhance state of sehaj , sandlewood also 4. doesn't contain alcohols as can destroy or discolour silks, pearls, ornaments etc the OP point that it can make people drunk la la la is very unlikely but it will irritate eyes and other mucous membranes if sprayed .

desi voti is purely geographical nothing more ...stop trying to read into it . I think it is unfair on them too to find out/or not find out that their husband's already had a wife and family...surely the boy's parents are displaying distinct lack of ethics if they are willing to trick the girl's family by omitting such details

this is just as disgusting as the Hindus of Guru ji's time calling Hindu-muslim a special caste name : Ranghreta /ranghar. But the beauty Of our Guru ji is he embraced one sikh of that pedigree who Brought Dhan Dhan Guru Teg Bahadur ji's Sees back from Delhi 'Ranghrete Guru ka Bete' . We should not look at the colour or the flesh but the soul of that person shining out.

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh, whilst it was interesting for the chemical/biology lessons can I bring it back to OPs request. I remember reading that purataan SInghs used essential oil perfumes such as Attar of Roses or Amber . Dad used to use Amber for Guru ji at home . You can get essential oils from www.Aromantic.co.uk which are very good quality and they also do organic oils too. you can get organic rosewater in ready to spray bottles from www.pukkaherbs.com , lovely smell not to heavy. you can get good oils too from this shop have had good product from them too: http://www.enaissance.co.uk/ they do amber oil

Merkel is on TV asking for help from the rest of the world i.e. US and UN to'deal with the migrant crisis' looks like the gearing up to push for world power held by one agency , next will be one faith i.e. no faith. The time has come to get as much Bani kant as possible and prep families for SHTF

well my brood all look desi , and that's fine with them ...my husband is italian descent (looks like a fair punjabi when he wears a dastar) I'm fair but in Sun I will go reddish bronze , the kids too nanaki te gehe ...Ardas of Hubby was heard ...they have good height , bone structure, colour twins have light brown hair and will probably end up with beards that go blondish in sun . The four of them want to look desi as they know they will never be considered English despite what the passport says. I think they equate the look to being closer to sikhi roots

I'm sorry but that is despicable... if you are teaching your son it is OK to abandon wife and kids and get married to someone else what will happen to the Desi Voti when he tires of life with her?

Veera , the kids can be sikhs independent of the parents ...plenty of other families have mone mums and Dads and Akali kids ...Just be thankful they are Sikhi saroop.

My dada ji had blond hair and blue eyes and his eldest son and Thai ji's son and grandson don't mean they were firangi mix , I've even seen maori blonds/blue eyes ....just natural variations can happen to pure desi stock too .

surely both sexes need to be training up ? Just bought a book 'warrior' by Geoff Thompson for the boys to explain in menspeak what I would like them to understand 'Dukh Daru sukh rog bhaia' it is the difficulties and challenges which keep us to the task of the life mission , the ease of technology and living in the West makes us manmatti. We need to challenge ourselves, push beyond our limits not be lit matchsticks instead of our true roop illahi noor.

I agree that the meek ones are usually the ones who are deep thinkers and will be more likely to respect all women ...a thing we all want to encourage. Bhainji what would you recommend to them to strengthen their internal and physical strength without getting into the trap of fixation on self?

Bhainji I'm glad that the love of your child has brought you back to your nitnem , for an amritdhari person that is what replenishes your store of strength and dhridtha every day to deal with Kalyug , never let anyone else's lack of sikhi make you drop it . As Guru ji tells us every morning 'karmi apo apni , keh nerda, keh door' which is to show you how those others condition is . But remember yourself and do your duty and complete the mission, 'jinni naam dhiaiya geh mashakat ghal , Nanak te mukh ujale keti chuti naal'

link broken , what was on it?

the whole picture has to be addressed , they will eventually with the helpful assistance of the bheki sikh committees introduce hindu elements into the gurdwara, the youngsters will be convinced that it has always been a part of the whole thing etc etc and there you go the erosion of more sikh values . Nothing to say golak has to be large amount of money can put donations as foodstuffs for langar etc . Why are we not getting proven embezzlers arrested and processed in the law courts. Don't tell me we are worried about what people will say, if one guy gets jailed the others will get scared and start behaving . It is this fact that they will not get confronted that emboldens them to misbehave , I'm mean I've heard of gurdwara properties being sold and the monies embezzled yet the guy is still free on the streets and still coming into the Gurdwara to make trouble. This is not India we can get full justice here if we just draw the line in the sand.

no it doesn't show they are more decent (believe me ) just shows that their folks keep them under lock and key .Because we show trust too easily to our kids without really discussing the realities of the 'meat market' that is UK /US? canada clubbing/Bhangra scene these days they push the limits and get caught out by these wolves. First things first , if the guys stepped up and became decent Gursikhs and demanded a higher standard of LIFE PARTNER not girlfriends the girls are not fools they want be with good looking , decent guys who have earning potential . They will pay attention to guys showing disdain for their self-disrespecting clothing and attitude , but if it goes into bitter name-calling that will push them away totally . Maybe the family values that those Girls see in their families is all balle balle , ek peg do peg, buraaa...and their Mums are moni , brows plucked also indulging in the booze but within the home/functions. I remember SIkh weddings in the seventies the only people drinking were the younger blokes, the bazurg were teetotal if not amritdhari , the bibian would be totally out of the whole question ...it was a matter of besharami to drink or dance in front of the guys. Roll on the eighties, and then the whole balle balle bhangra thing took off , slowly bibian started taking to the dancefloor , towards the end of the decade even the bride started to dance shyly and some bolder women started drinking . The nineties and everyone was on the dance floor flirting and drinking ...hardly anyone is amritdhari ... These is the dangers of balle balle ... Now the sikh faith has been made permanently linked to boozing, eating meat, being boorish, and dancing Bhangra.

never because stupid cruel men will continue to prey on innocents as long as they can do it

and that is what is wrong with male mentality ...'dealing with their sisters and mothers' would make you what ? bemukh and scum I am so tired of the whole subcontinent thing meri beizzati kitti aa, mein ohde bhaine/voti/maa di izzat nu haath paonga ...can you guys actually beat each other up instead , why drag us innocent parties into your macho peeing contests?

There is a deterrent effect sure but if the girl gives off nervous vibe they will try their arm . SHastr without knowledge and training are worthless, besides empty hand techniques would be invaluable just in case you get jumped before you can do something or if you get disarmed in the set-to

That's the thing is was always rehit, remember Guru Gobind SIngh ji tied Mata Bhag Kaur's dastar on her when he gave her amrit di daat . At Akal Takht it was the rehit until the 1920's when there was a 'temporary ' relaxing of the rehit for bibian under Jathedar Gurmukh Singh Musafir. That temporary thing became a permanent change just as the parkash of Dasam Granth ji at Akal Takht was removed temporarily for 'study and research' . The actual rehit is the same for both men and women.

number 4 is the most common reason why people say they are patit , because they feel all those scummy individuals who are bhekhi sikhs are indicative of a level of hypocrisy that is almost inevitable amongst those who decide to become amritdhari. I had cousins say it , friends here , even kids in India. We need to show out the good side of Khalsa to counteract this unreasonable hatred against the Faith

1. possibly they have been told by the other half that is why she is not lovable enough ...scum out there like that 2. Undermined by two sets of bazurgs and all and sundry pointing and blaming the female for perceived failure , she may feel hounded and look to break with her normal look as an anger thing, kind of self-punishment. 3. been told by her folks that it was hard enough to find her marriable the first time with a dastar , why make it harder by keeping it if you want you get married again now that you are a divorced woman (hai Hai chugli chugli ninda). 4. loss of faith because of total smashing down of perception of people's goodness as being nothing more than a sham...thus disassociation from being like them... These are not off the top of my head by things I have seen happen with real people. No I don't think a SInghni believes the dastar to be a sign of masculinity , only Guys have ever suggested that to me , even slagging me off for trying to be like a man because I was a feminist...God how thick can you get...