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mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan

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  1. BJP, VHP, RSS, hindutva groups, and honestly most average hindus, don't even consider sikhi as a distinct faith, but a mere sect of hinduism. in fact, as you fight christian missionaries, Hindustan's constitution calls sikhs Hindus. Hindus are fighting the fact that dalits are escaping from their caste system, and honestly, we are fighting "dalit sikhs" escaping from sikhi's imagined caste system. the hindus fighting christian missionaries, VHP, Bajrang Dal, BJP, etc, are inhumane tyrants right up there wih those who torched sikhs in delhi 1984. parchar is the answer. let people choose their faith. don't get caught up in the hysteria and join hands with murderers. peace.
  2. that's why any sikh or non-sikh that says sikhs should FORGET 1984, is doing humanity a great disservice.
  3. this issue is getting serious media attention though...a co-worker who is Italian brought this up at lunch today...
  4. maharaj is everything and everything is maharaj jo deesai so tera roop||
  5. i don't think gurbaani is a set of "commands"..hukam is the Will or raza of akaal purakh that we live in. gravity is hukam. you can't "follow" gravity...because commands can be followed or ignored, can we choose to ignore gravity? parshaad means blessing. what's a greater blessing than the shabad? doesn't gubaani say that the fortunate ones meet the guru and hear the true shabad... yes, guru sahib is pargat, in guru roop khalsa, guru panth khalsa ji. peace.
  6. reminds me of nazi germany where germans refused to see what was happening around them. disgusting.
  7. my point is that this type of thinking is why we have rooms upon rooms at darbar sahib where akhand paths are held within empty rooms with a bhai sahib reading SGGS ji and the people who pay for the akhand paaths to be done don't even bother to be there because the bhai sahib's reading will benefit them in some way? gurbaani is an experience in my view. someone else can't experience gurbaani for you. peace.
  8. punjabi is beautiful. learn to read, write, and speak punjabi in gurmukhi script or shamukhi script. peace.
  9. if we can be saved by others, then Christianity is the best faith as Jesus saves all who believe in him. we are judged on what we do here. it is our chance to experience God. we can do all the akahnd paths for our relatives, but the person is judged on his/her actions here. because if we were able to just pray away people's sins, how about we all pray for indira gandhi's soul and god will forgive her for her sins right? use your logic for everything, because that si what hukam is, it is Sat, universal truth. if you believe that gurmat says you can save another's soul by praying for them after they are gone, well then, let's apply it all around and see if it holds water.... plus gurbaani says over and over that no one knows where the soul goes after death...sikhi si all about here and now. do good deeds now. let's not interpret sikhi into another typical dogmatic unpractical faith. peace.
  10. hmmmm...interesting. does anyone know if their were any communal riots before 1947?
  11. i'm double minded about the motive behind these attacks: 1) islamic terrorists are trying to get revenge for gujarat carnage 2) BJP and other "nationalist" parties are trying to show the Congress led gov't as weak on terrorism and appeasing Muslims. either one has a good chance of being true.
  12. Same here. I may or may not support it, but I will never ever oppose it. same here.
  13. hating hindus is not an option veer mehtab singh, for anyone. the hindu community's silence on a huge scale to the tyranny unleashed upon fellow human beings is disgusting and a blot on their quam, but to punish them for it with violence is terrorism. it is their choice to remain silent or hail the perpetrators as heroes, just as citizens of pakistan hail aurangzeb and babur as heroes. their vichaar just doesn't mix with our vichaar. simple as that. we are just not on the same page. peace.
  14. right on. gurbaani says that the hindus give the idols food which is then eaten by the pundit. i thought of this shabad when i read that some parshad is for guru granth sahib and it usually eaten by the ragi singh... the real "parshad" is the hukam from guru granth sahib. Aasaa, Kabeer Jee, 9 Panch-Padas, 5 Du-Tukas: One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: You tear off the leaves, O gardener, but in each and every leaf, there is life. That stone idol, for which you tear off those leaves - that stone idol is lifeless. ||1|| In this, you are mistaken, O gardener. The True Guru is the Living Lord. ||1||Pause|| Brahma is in the leaves, Vishnu is in the branches, and Shiva is in the flowers. When you break these three gods, whose service are you performing? ||2|| The sculptor carves the stone and fashions it into an idol, placing his feet upon its chest. If this stone god was true, it would devour the sculptor for this! ||3|| Rice and beans, candies, cakes and cookies - the priest enjoys these, while he puts ashes into the mouth of the idol. ||4|| The gardener is mistaken, and the world is mistaken, but I am not mistaken. Says Kabeer, the Lord preserves me; the Lord, my King, has showered His Blessings upon me. ||5||1||14|| if we believe in blessed food, what is wrong with Muslims eating halal which they too say is blessed? what is wrong with the ganga if we too believe in sacred sarovars? are all sikh rituals right but the exact counterparts in hinduism and islam are wrong? anyways good points rajwinder. that's the danger of taking gurbaani literally. gurbaani is full of metaphors but many interpret literally. just like how the shabad, gurbaani is the real sarovar as mentioend in gurbaani, but people take it to mean the literal sarovars at gurdwaras...then you have people who take home a glass of sarovar water and sprinkle it in their houses to "purify" them.... anyways....sikhi is becoming like every other faith, full of dogma and blind rituals, all in the name of sharda. even hindus have sharda that bathe in the ganga and muslims have sharda who go to mecca for piligrimage. what makes sikhs' sharda greater? peace.
  15. looks kind of like the pic of bhagat ravidas ji that people believe in....
  16. yes mehtab singh, i agree, when these "chamaars" "choore" were being kicked out of gurdwaras and had to make separate cremation grounds no one bothered. the day they changed their names to john or paul, it was dharam yudh...i mean come on. "If someone wants to discuss about some points of Sikhi, these people occupying these position would look at him ( the person interested in knowing more) as if that person has dropped in from out of this world- seems like they wonder why is that person not satisfied by just “Matha take” and “eat” Parshad." right on. eat the parshad and move along. you know..i recently met the producer of the movie "Sundri" and "Schote Sahibzaade" the animated films here in the west...my wife, who is from punjab, saw the shaibzaade movie for the first time and was like wow they need to show this in punjab. i was shocked since that movie is quite old now and i figured that living in chandigarh mohali area she must have already seen it as the Vismaad productions is located there...well i met the producer and asked him if they screened it there, he said no. my wife has also been amazed at the kathavaachiks who come to gurdwara on a regular basis here in the west. she said i never see these guys do katha in punjab. she said if they said these things in punjab, it would effect people. so my point is, we do have powerful katahvaachiks in our quam. we have very chardi kala gursikhs in our quam. it seems that the Siks living abroad are being exposed more to gurbaani vichaar rather than in punjab. it could be because they don't get the audience there? don't know. peace.
  17. mangal dhillon has a crazy voice, (crazy in slang means awesome ) good for him... peace. btw: you kids play nice. j/k carry on hehe
  18. your post reminded me of the following tuk from gurbaani: piqq auDwrxu siqguru myrw moih iqs kw Brvwsw ] (620-3, soriT, mÚ 5) patit uDhaaran satgur mayraa mohi tis kaa bharvaasaa. My True Guru is the Savior of sinners; I have placed my trust and faith in Him. bKis ley siB scY swihib suix nwnk kI Ardwsw ]2]17]45] (620-4, soriT, mÚ 5) bakhas la-ay sabh sachai saahib sun naanak kee ardaasaa. ||2||17||45|| The True Lord has heard Nanak's prayer, and He has forgiven everything. ||2||17||45||
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