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  1. Annual International Sikh Convention - Organised by the Sikh Federation (UK) Sunday 16 September 2012 from 10am At Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara, Sedgley Street, Wolverhampton All Sangat requested to attend with family and friends, MP's, Panthic Leaders, Dhadi, Kavishri, Keertani's Nirvair Khalsa Jatha etc will be there. Make the biggest annual Sikh Dharam political event even bigger for 2012....... If you live in the UK contact your local Gurdwara and Sikh Federation branch about transport arrangements. Contact 07860 633488 If you live abroad and plan to attend email info@sikhfederation.co.uk
  2. Please attend this urgent meeting at Guru Har Rai Gurdwara West Bromwich at 6pm on SUNDAY. We need to expose this cancer. Get people back into the fold of the Guru's Panth.
  3. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh A Urgent Panthic meeting has been called in regards to the destruction of a Gurdwara Sahib in India by the Anti Sikh sect 'Radha Soami'. Meeting at Guru Har Rai Gurdwara Sahib, High Street, West Bromwich on Sunday 15th July at 6pm. Please attend and forward to similar Panthic thinkers. FAO: Sikh Youth, Jathebandian and Gurdwara Committees. Expose this cancer of Radha Soami on Sikhi.
  4. Vaisakhi Nagar Kirtan STEWARDS meeting on Saturday 21 April in the Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Langar Hall @ 6pm
  5. There will be a special programme OUTSIDE the Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Smethwick on Sunday 22nd April 2012 before the Nagar Kirtan leaves in support of Bhai Balwant Singh Ji Rajoana. Sangat are kindly requested to arrive on time.
  6. With the support of Guru Roop Sadh Sangat, the Council of Sikh Gurdwara's Sandwell and Birmingham, Panthic Jathebanian, the Sadh Sangat of and the first ever Parbandhak Committee of Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Smethwick, The annual Vaisakhi Nagar Kirtan from Sandwell into Handsworth Park will be starting at Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Smethwick, 7-9 St. Pauls Road, Smethwick, West Midlands B66 1EE. This Nagar Kirtan will be starting at 10am, those interested in doing stewarding Seva, must attend the stewards meeting at Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Smethwick on Saturday 21st April at 6pm. For further information please contact the Gurdwara Sahib on 0121 558 2681. Singh's are requested to tie orange (kesri) Dastar's and Bibian (ladies) requested to have orange chunnian/dupatte. For those who do not normally tie a dastar but wish to do so will be provided with Dastaaran and helped to tie them on Sunday morning from Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Smethwick. Please note: This Nagar Kirtan usually leaves from Guru Nanak Gurdwara Smethwick, but this year the committee at GNG refused to participate in the Nagar Kirtan in any way or form, they have refused to give the items for the Nagar Kirtan and even refused to give the Choley for the 5 Piare and 5 Nishaan Sahib wale Singhs. Therefore Gurdwara Baba Sang Ji Smethwick has struggled at the last minute to get all the items together, but with Guru Ji's kirpa have still managed to do so. Please help out as much as you can. Please do an Ardas for Guru Nanak Gurdwara Smethwick's committee wale.
  7. The main issue is, that this is a Anti Panthic committee, from 21 members 20 of them are *deleted*. The so called angel Stage Sec *deleted*. why? Because they have no fear of Guru Ji, if they were so intelligent in the Sikh Religion, and proud Sikh Sevadaars, they would take Amrit and understand the spirit Guru Sahibs Amrit fills you with. But only a Vapaari of Amrit can understand its value. Today Leamington, tomorrow some other Gurdwara, the issue Khalsa Ji, is not the Gurdwara Sahib, it is the masand's who run it. In the 1900's the issue was not Nanakana Sahib nor Sri Darbar Sahib, it was the Msanads that had taken control, it is the same in this issue weather it be leamington, london, vancouver, etc etc.... I urge the Sikh Sangat, to ensure we hold Shaheedi programmes and talk about their mission weather it was for Khalistan or punishing a tyrant for what they had done, for the Shaheeds that spilt their blood for us, never forget them, what ever Gurdwara is local to you, put their banners up, put their photos up and promote them and their message to the Sikh Nation and the world. If the committee objects take a stand.
  8. UK Gurdwara committee insults the Panth’s Shaheeds “The UK Sikh community is urged to attend the Akhand Paath bhog at Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara on 13th November and support the local Sangat’s cause in remembering the Sikh nation’s martyrs who sacrificed their lives for the Guru and the Panth, despite an anti-Sikh stance from the communist gurdwara committee. The bhog will take place at 10am will be followed by Dhadi Vaars.” Leamington (November 9, 2011)–In further evidence of the on going deterioration of our Sikh institutions, disturbing anti-Sikh ideology of the recently new management committee of Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara Sahib in UK has come to public light. The Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara has been under the public spotlight since 2006 when they were exposed for celebrating Bandi Chhor Divas with a meat and alcohol party in the Gurdwara complex. Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara is now under the spotlight for insulting the Sikh nation’s martyrs, venerating the evil tyrants who attacked the Sikh nation in 1984 and bullying the local Sangat. Every year the Leamington and Warwick Sangat hold an Akhand Paath remembrance programme in memory of all the Sikh nation’s shahids (martyrs). This year, after the bhog of the Akhand Paath, Dhadis are going to sing Vaars in tribute to Shahid Bhai Beant Singh, Shahid Bhai Satwant Singh, Shahid Bhai Kehar Singh, Shahid Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda and Shahid Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha. Two weeks ago, a senior member of the Gurdwara management committee was approached about putting the poster for the event on the Gurdwara notice board. The committee member replied that the poster cannot be put up as some people have complained that the photos of those who have killed Indira Gandhi have been displayed. The Sangat explained to the committee member that the people on the poster are the Sikh nation’s great martyrs who have been honoured by Sri Akal Takht Sahib. The committee member replied that if we allow this Akhand Paath then someone could argue that it is okay to do an Akhand for Indira Gandhi as she is a ‘Shahid’ also. The Sangat approached some committee members again one week ago about putting up the poster on the notice board. The committee members replied disgracefully that “We only accept those as Shahids who are included in the Ardas. We do not accept anyone else as a Shahid and this poster cannot be put up.” That Sunday, the Stage Secretary made an announcement on the Gurdwara stage that, “an Akhand Paath will be held next week by a small section of the Sangat because the whole Sangat does not consider those people Shahid. Some call them ‘terrorists’ and others ‘shahid.’ The Committee only accepts those as Shahids who are mentioned in the Ardas. For this reason the poster with these photos will not be allowed to be displayed in the Gurdwara. Only Guru Nanak’s Bani can be preached here, no other thing is allowed here.” The whole incident highlights how our Gurdwaras have fallen back in the hands of corrupt individuals. The new breed of Masands seem to be power hungry individuals who lack intelligence and capabilities of gaining power in local politics or control of their own homes and families, so instead they wield their force in the local Sangat and do the utmost to gain a power hold of the local Gurdwaras. The booze drinking ‘custodians’ of the Gurdwara have turned their backs on the Sikh nation’s heroes who defended their honour and respect of the Sikh nation by delivering justice to those that dared attack the heart of the Sikh community. If Shahid Beant Singh and Shahid Satwant Singh are terrorists, then would Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara committee consider Bhai Mehtab Singh and Bhai Sukha Singh as 18th century terrorists because they assassinated Massa Rangar? Would the same management committee consider Baba Deep Singh a terrorist and controversial because he defending the honour of Sri Harimandir Sahib and beheading Jahan Khan and killing countless other soldiers of Abdali who had desecrated the Sikhs’ most holiest shrine The UK Sikh community is urged to attend the Akhand Paath bhog at Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara on 13th November and support the local Sangat’s cause in remembering the Sikh nation’s martyrs who sacrificed their lives for the Guru and the Panth, despite anti-Sikh stance from the communist gurdwara committee. The bhog will take place at 10am will be followed by Dhadi Vaars.
  9. Khalsa Ji, As you can see through this thread many questions were asked, of which the committee or their representitives have been unable to answer. After the Bhog of the Sri Akhand Path Sahib today the Stage Secretary had no intention of mentioning Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh Ji, Bhai Satwant Singh Ji or any other shaheed. Khalsa Ji, it was *deleted* the Assistant General Secretary of the Gurdwara Sahib who is non - amritdhari and a *deleted* (remember in the Gurdwara you do not have to be Amritdhari to become a committee member) who stated that we can hold the Akhand Path Sahib of Indira Ghandi too if one is held for the Shaheed Singhs who assasinated her, The Stage Sec (Also a non-Amritdhari) stated that there is no way that we will allow anyone to speak about ANYTHING other than the Sikh Gurus - Now please dont lie about this because those were his words. Then the Sikh Fed Chief Amrik Singh Gill went on stage and clarified that he does not understand why people do not understand the concept of MIRI PIRI Sidaant in the Gurdwara Sahib. He totally thrashed the Stage Secretary after Amrik Singh Gill the stage secretary went on stage and defended himself. Then Kulwant Singh Dhesi, Tarsem Singh Deol, Kuldeep Singh Chaheru, Charan Singh all spoke, in favour of the Shaheed Singhs, and if you listened carefully, the old men sat on the back benches were moaning their heads off, but due to the amount of Panthic Singhs present, they kept their mouths shut. It is with no doubt, that if the amount Singhs that turned up at the Gurdwara Sahib today, did not come, there was NO WAY the names of SHAHEED BHAI BEANT SINGH, BHAI SATWANT SINGH and other shaheed Singhs would have been mentioned. Its not an issue against the Gurdwara Sahib, the issue is the ANTI - Panthic committee, today if those Singhs never came and this committee never allowed the names of those Singhs to be mentioned on stage this disease would have spread to other Gurdwara's, and therefore other so called 'moderate' Gurdwaras would have banned the use of the names of Shaheed Singhs at their Gurdwaras too..... look at it in the long run. The Stage secretary, UNTIL provoked from the Sangat DID NOT mention any Shaheed Singhs name, and also stated Sangat Ji, we have so many million pounds outstanding on our loan, if we go into these issues it will divide the Sangat therefore the revenue will drop. NOW ANSWER ME.... will mentioning the names of those who gave up everything for you really divide the Sangat? I stand firm all the alligations made are 100% true, unless the sharaabi committee proves them wrong. I also stand firm with the belief that Sri Akal Takhat Sahib should pass a resolution stating that ALL GURDWARA PARBANDHAK'S MUST BE AMRITDHARI. Khalsa Ji, whether or not 1 member from this forum believes me, or whether no body does, look at what these committee wale, whether or not Leamington or anywhere else, becareful, these old men, will bring on the downfall of the movement, just like the old guard Shiromani Akali Dal did during 84 and after.
  10. Did or did not the committee state on stage that if today a minority of Sangat hold a Akhand Path in memory of these 'terrorists' then we can hold a Akhand Path for Indira Ghandi too as people consider her a Shaheed too? I ask once again.... Please give in writing.... 1) What is the stance of the Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee on Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha and other Shaheeds of the Sikh movement? 2) The committee or Stage Secretary did not say on stage on Sunday that we do not believe that these Singhs are Shaheeds but Terrorists, and we only believe those mentioned in the Ardas as Shaheeds? 3) The committee did not announce from the Stage that this Sri Akhand Path Sahib (The one in memory of the Shaheeds) is only organised by a MINORITY of the Sangat and the MAJORITY of the Sangat does not agree with this? 4) The committee will never hold, nor allow to hold a Sri Akhand Path Sahib for Indira Ghandi or any other tyrant. Khalsa Ji, have some shame, Shaheeds Bhai Beant Singh, Bhai Satwant Singh, Bhai Kehar Singh, Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Sukhdev Singh Sukha gave their everything for us, left their families, jobs, friends, homes, everything, just for us, and now we can't even take a stand for these Singhs. We cant even put posters up or hold Akhand Path Sahibs without being intimidated by committee wale?
  11. Bhai Sahib Ji, those issues be it X, Y or Z are still issues, they become issues because they are issues. Why dont you answer all of the questions asked to the committee instead of the selective ones? And providing justification for the Sharaabi committee. Bhai Sahib Ji, i have NOTHING against our Gurdwara Sahib, the arguement is against the Anti- Panthic committee, please try and understand this. What I am surprised at is if our beloved Parbandhak Committee is so milk washed why they cannot issue a simple statement on letterheaded paper? I'm not asking for a letter of reference because i want to apply for a job, this is a PANTHIC issue. What is holding the committee back in issuing this statement? Why can't they take a stance? Will the Committee members tomorrow say anything on stage in favour of Shaheed Singhs? We will see. Then we will come back to this forum and make a new statement and see what the ACTUAL stand of the committee is.
  12. Khalsa Ji, do you not read and understand my posts? Please re-read my post, I have not lied, not at all. You are to blinded by the committees lies.
  13. This is so strange? Suddenly, not 1, not 2, not 3 at least 4 newbies' have started posting on Sikh Sangat in favour of the managing committee, doesnt the Sikh Sangat find anything strange about this? What have the committee got to hide? Why isit that the committee could not change the constitution to say only a Amritdhari can become a member of the committee or to say atleast 50% have to be Amritdhari or AT LEAST have to have their Dhari Kesh INTACT, instead of changing it to plant themselves in power of the Gurdwara Management forever? 20 of the 21 committee members are Non-Amritdhari, what does that say? 20 of the 21 are sharaabi's, if the sangat doesnt not believe, come along to a committee meeting you will be surprised. The people who are running our Gurdwara Sahib, the people who are custodians to the Gurdwara, cannot even follow on the path of the Panth themselves....................................... NOW ANSWER WHAT MESSAGE WILL THEY GIVE TO THE YOUNGSTERS??????? Khavo Pivo Aish karo Mitro?? or Amrit Shako Singh Sajo??? But hang on how can they say that? When they arent even Amritdhari themselves???!!!! Let alone Amritdhari, the committee waleo at least keep your Dhari Kesh intact but no! 5 of the committee members are the same people who got busted and smashed up in 2005 during a sharaab meeting, do you still remember guys? NOW they are taking revenge against the Panthic Sangat by creating rifts and problems in the Sangat, and showing the Panthic Sangat to look like a bunch of terrorists. OK for ONE moment lets believe that i'm telling lies and this is all false...... then whats the problem in the committee issue the following statements.... 1) What is the stance of the Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee on Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha and other Shaheeds of the Sikh movement? 2) The committee or Stage Secretary did not say on stage on Sunday that we do not believe that these Singhs are Shaheeds but Terrorists, and we only believe those mentioned in the Ardas as Shaheeds? 3) The committee did not announce from the Stage that this Sri Akhand Path Sahib (The one in memory of the Shaheeds) is only organised by a MINORITY of the Sangat and the MAJORITY of the Sangat does not agree with this? 4) The committee will never hold, nor allow to hold a Sri Akhand Path Sahib for Indira Ghandi or any other tyrant.
  14. Bhai Sahib Ji, it seems obviously that you take the side of the managing committee. Once again, if what your saying is correct and the alligations are false, please provide the below on letterheaded paper signed by the current General Secretary it shouldnt be a problem, the issue is not with the Gurdwara Sahib, its an issue with the stance, and the thinking of the committee: 1) What is the stance of the Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee on Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha and other Shaheeds of the Sikh movement? 2) The committee or Stage Secretary did not say on stage on Sunday that we do not believe that these Singhs are Shaheeds but Terrorists, and we only believe those mentioned in the Ardas as Shaheeds? 3) The committee did not announce from the Stage that this Sri Akhand Path Sahib (The one in memory of the Shaheeds) is only organised by a MINORITY of the Sangat and the MAJORITY of the Sangat does not agree with... I dont see what the problem is? Why cant the committee clear its stance on letterheaded paper? Are they scared it might end up at the Indian Consulate in Birmingham? Or that it might stop Mr. Mota Singh and friends attending parties with the Consulate General of India? Come on, wake up, smell the coffee, these old budde who have KABZA over the committee will bring on the end of the Sikh youth.
  15. Bhai Sahib ji, you and i know very well what the committee is capable of, what they did during the Sangat's General Ajlaas (meeting) when the older generation rushed the stage and took the mic off the Ex General Secretary making his resign. We know what the older generation did during the election, shouting that who are these people, we made this Gurdwara etc etc, swearing in Guru Sahib's hazoori. Then the plot to change names of the OLD Gurdwara building to the Cultural society to open a hall to serve meat and sharaab. Changing the consitution, to suit the current committee. I ask why how many member of the committee that was selected in April 2011, are actually in the committee?? 5? 6? when the commiittee consists of 25? Why? Its SHAMBLES. The committee doesnt want to listen to the Youth try talking to them, they dont want to know. Please do not side line the Sangat. Bhai Sahib this is not an attack on the Gurdwara Sahib, but on the congressi/communist managing committee.
  16. Once again, if what your saying is correct and the alligations are false, please provide the below on letterheaded paper signed by the current General Secretary it shouldnt be a problem, the issue is not with the Gurdwara Sahib, its an issue with the stance, and the thinking of the committee: 1) What is the stance of the Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee on Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha and other Shaheeds of the Sikh movement? 2) The committee or Stage Secretary did not say on stage on Sunday that we do not believe that these Singhs are Shaheeds but Terrorists, and we only believe those mentioned in the Ardas as Shaheeds? 3) The committee did not announce from the Stage that this Sri Akhand Path Sahib (The one in memory of the Shaheeds) is only organised by a MINORITY of the Sangat and the MAJORITY of the Sangat does not agree with this? 4) The committee will never hold, nor allow to hold a Sri Akhand Path Sahib for Indira Ghandi or any other tyrant. Please clarify this, if you have the official backing of the committee and are a representitive then it should be no problem for you to provide the above on OFFICIAL LETTERHEADED PAPER. Sangat Jwaab Mangdi.
  17. To all members of Sikh Sangat, the last two posts are all made by newbies, by what intention as you can probably conclude yourselves. These are not new issues Panthic.org has covered what has been going on, please see this website. Why isit such a problem to issue the following? Ok, provide the above and this on letterheaded paper signed by the current General Secretary: 1) What is the stance of the Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee on Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha and other Shaheeds of the Sikh movement? 2) The committee or Stage Secretary did not say on stage on Sunday that we do not believe that these Singhs are Shaheeds but Terrorists, and we only believe those mentioned in the Ardas as Shaheeds? 3) The committee did not announce from the Stage that this Sri Akhand Path Sahib (The one in memory of the Shaheeds) is only organised by a MINORITY of the Sangat and the MAJORITY of the Sangat does not agree with this? 4) The committee will never hold, nor allow to hold a Sri Akhand Path Sahib for Indira Ghandi or any other tyrant. Please clarify this, if you have the official backing of the committee and are a representitive then it should be no problem for you to provide the above on OFFICIAL LETTERHEADED PAPER.
  18. Ok, provide the above and this on letterheaded paper signed by the current General Secretary: 1) What is the stance of the Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee on Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda, Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha and other Shaheeds of the Sikh movement? 2) The committee or Stage Secretary did not say on stage on Sunday that we do not believe that these Singhs are Shaheeds but Terrorists, and we only believe those mentioned in the Ardas as Shaheeds? 3) The committee did not announce from the Stage that this Sri Akhand Path Sahib (The one in memory of the Shaheeds) is only organised by a MINORITY of the Sangat and the MAJORITY of the Sangat does not agree with this? 4) The committee will never hold, nor allow to hold a Sri Akhand Path Sahib for Indira Ghandi or any other tyrant. Please clarify this, if you have the official backing of the committee and are a representitive then it should be no problem for you to provide the above on OFFICIAL LETTERHEADED PAPER.
  19. yes its the new Gurdwara Sahib, the Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara Sahib. Sangat from all over the UK are requested to attend this Sunday, in support of the local Sangat who are being bullied by the committee. Due to the congressi-communist influance in the committee it is to be noted that a majority of the committee has resigned due to this injustice, including Mohinder Singh the General Secretary. APOSTATE LED UK GURDWARA MANAGEMENT INSULTS SHAHEEDS PANTHIC.ORG | Published on November 8, 2011 Leamington Spa (UK) - Khalsa Press has been monitoring the anti-Sikh activities that have been taking place in Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara for some years. The current committee is a coalition of Congress-Communist apostates who have made a strangle hold on the Gurdwara Sahib. The modern day Masands have sunk to a new low by insulting the Panth’s Shaheeds and venerating tyrants who desecrated the Sikhs’ holiest shrine to the same level as the Sikh nation’s martyrs. For many years the Leamington and Warwick Sangat have been holding an annual Akhand Paatth in remembrance of all the Sikh nation’s Shaheeds (martyrs). In the same spirit, the local Sangat is holding an Akhand Paath, after which Dhadis are going to sing Vaars in tribute to Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh, Shaheed Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda and Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha. In the lead up to the Akhand Paath, two weeks ago the local Sangat approached a senior member of the Gurdwara management committee about putting up the poster for the Shaheed remember event on the Gurdwara notice board. The gurdwara committee member replied that the poster cannot be put up as some people have complained that it displays photos of Indira Gandhi’s killers. The Sangat explained that the people on the poster are the Sikh nation’s great Shaheeds who have been honoured by Sri Akal Takht Sahib. The committee member replied that if we allow this Akhand Paatth then someone could argue that it is okay to do an Akhand Paatth for Indira Gandhi as she is also a ‘Shaheed’. It is beyond belief and utterly disgusting that a so-called gurdwara committee member can call a tyrant who has the blood of thousands on her hands a ‘Shaheed’. “We only accept those as Shaheeds who are included in the Ardas. We do not accept anyone else as a Shaheed" - Leamington Warwick Gurdwara Management The Sangat approached some committee members again one week ago about putting up the poster on the notice board. The committee members replied disgracefully that “We only accept those as Shaheeds who are included in the Ardas. We do not accept anyone else as a Shaheed and this poster cannot be put up.” That Sunday, the Stage Secretary made an announcement on the Gurdwara stage that, “an Akhand Paatth will be held next week by a small section of the Sangat because the whole Sangat does not consider those people Shaheed. Some call them ‘terrorists’ and others ‘Shaheed.’ The Committee only accepts those as Shaheeds who are mentioned in the Ardas. For this reason the poster with these photos will not be allowed to be displayed in the Gurdwara. Only Guru Nanak’s Bani can be preached here, no other thing is allowed here.” The local Sangat wish to ask the Gurdwara committee, how can the Sikh nation forget those heroes who lifted up the Dastaar of the Sikh nation and honoured the nation. The committee’s consciousness has died that they have forgotten Sikh history. They needed to be reminded that whichever tyrant destroyed Sri Akal Takht Sahib was punished and delivered justice, whether it was Ahmed Shah Abdali, Massa Rangar, Indira Gandhi or General Vaidya. The whole UK Sikh Sangat is urged to attend the Akhand Paatth bhog at Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara on 13th November where the Sikh nation’s Shaheeds will be remembered and honoured through Dhadi Vaars. The wider Sangat needs to offer their support the local Sangat who are been bullied and cornered for upholding Gurmat and Panthic ideals. APOSTATES TAKE CONTROL OF LEAMINGTON SPA GURDWARA, UK PANTHIC.ORG | Published on June 23, 2011 Leamington Spa, UK (KP) - In further evidence of the ongoing deterioration of our Sikh institutions, disturbing anti-Gurmat ideology of the newly formed management committee of Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara Sahib in UK has come to public light. In a letter obtained by Panthic.org, members of the Committee campaigning for the old Gurdwara Darbar Sahib building to be converted to a wedding party hall, have written to Man Jitt Weekly newspaper sharing their original thoughts about Gurdwara Maryada and respect of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In attempts to vilify the Sikh community who are striving to follow the Sikh faith and defend the Sikh religion from internal attacks, Mota Singh from Leamington Spa writes in favour of the Dudley Gurdwara Sahib for allowing meat and alcohol parties, despite the Dudley Gurdwara committee admitting in a signed statement that they had insulted Gurmat by allowing meat and alcohol parties in the Gurdwara owned community hall. Panthic Enemies, Sumedh Saini and Parmraj Umranangal We have several reports that allege the same Mota Singh, who is a local politician, has dined with and entertained Punjab Police officers Sumedh Saini and Parmraj Umranangal when they visited the UK. These two notorious police officials are well known for being responsible for the torture and murder of thousands of Sikhs in India. “Perhaps the animals in Dudley Zoo would not have done such a thing that was done by the people of progressive modern religion. Some people consider this a ‘rigtheous act’ and must be celebrating ‘victory’. Congratulations to their “wise minds”. [/left] Large animals eat smaller animals and yet Mota Singh claims animals are more civilised than Sikhs who defend their religious institutions from the clutches of corruption and sacrilege! May it be reminded that to save our Gurdwaras from the hands of the corrupt Mahants (caretakers) who were eating meat and drinking meat in the Sikh sacred institutions and used to have dancing girls entertain them, our forefathers went there, protested and sacrificed their lives in order to bring purity and sanctity in the Guru’s institutions. There are many examples like the Saka of Nankana Sahib, Panja Sahib and other many historical Gurdwaras. Mota Singh, one of the lead members of the party in control of Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara Nowadays, a new breed of communists and apostates disguised as Sikhs have become the Mahants of the modern age. The Panth needs the spirit of our forefathers to save our Gurdwaras from the destruction of Gurmat that is being carried out. The modern day Mahants are offering society a cheap cost venue to dance their daughters and sisters in front of drunk men to lured and dirty songs and eat meat, drink alcohol and smoke tobacco in the happiness of celebrating a birthday or wedding. “Eating meat or drinking alcohol if a human being’s personal matter, a lot of information about this is in Guru Granth Sahib, perhaps all religious scriptures talk about this. Does anyone have a right to question the eating and drinking habits? If there is no harm caused to you by their habits? Every responsible Sikhs will agree with this that in the Guru’s House there should be no intoxicants, meat alcohol, gambling and cigarette, tobacco – there is no place and nor should there be. Why argue? Because of this community centre’s are the property of the Guru’s House. This is an issue of argument. Yes, there is a way of dealing with this problem, if we understand and remember the background. Why are the community centre’s that are made through the Gurdwaras not given to social bodies? When the people have given the funds and it has been made with the tax payer’s grant. Sitting down the issue can be resolved but it is important that the intentions are pure. These Gurdwaras belong to the Sikh Panth and so do the community centres. We and the extremists have no mercy on the Sikh nation and nor do they understand Guru Granth Shaib’s teachings. This is not the maintaining of Maryada, but putting black ash on one’s head.” [/left] It is an individual’s Karam and choice if they wish to feed off the corpses of dead animals, however for a ‘Sikh’ there is a clear guideline and Hukam from the Guru to live within an ethical and healthy way of life which includes no consumption of alcohol and foods harmful for the mind, spirit and body, i.e meat, eggs, fish etc. Where drinking and eating is a personal issue and no one interferes, it is unjustifiable to promote and accept social evils and activities that are contrary to the Guru’s Way in the name of Sikhi or in any property linked or associated to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the Saadh Sangat. Drinking alcohol is a poison for the body and mind. This is frequently echoed from health agencies, however it is a shame that Gurdwara committees are promoting alcohol which not only destroys one’s own health, spirit, and mind, it destroys families, communities, and relationships. The Gurdwara should be on the forefront of promoting healthy living and true humanitarian service for not only Sikhs but the wider community by promoting activities that benefit all. The biggest worry of actual Sikhs, who despite being labelled ‘Kattar-vaad’ have deep love for Guru and humanity, is that their fellow brothers and sisters born in Sikh families are becoming engulfed in alcoholism, alcohol related diseases and domestic problems related to alcohol abuse. Despite being labelled as hardliners and extremists, Sikhs will continue to promote the Guru’s message and continue to promote the true intoxicant of Naam and Bani. If one wishes to drink poison and ruin their life, then good luck to them, but why ruin other’s lives and families with the promotion of alcohol? It is sad where the British government is trying to curb the drinking of alcohol and binge drinking some of the so called Sikhs and Gurdwara leaders are opening and justifying Gurdwara halls for promoting this social ill. Where the government is discussing can be reduced by increasing the prices, some of the communist led Gurdwaras are thinking and discussing of ways how people can find cheap venues linked to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to enjoy and abuse alcohol. The new Committee of Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara are now calling for a general meeting at the Gurdwara to override the decision of the Sangat passed twice before that the old Gurdwara building should be demolished and never used as a wedding or party hall. Although the new committee has made claims that no alcohol and meat will be allowed in the parties that are planned in the old Darbar Sahib once it is refurbished, Mota Singh’s article in Man Jitt Weekly suggests that the intentions are very sinister and that the group in control of the Gurdwara doesn’t see anything wrong in defying Sri Akal Takht Sahib and Gur Maryada by allowing dancing, anti-Gurmat music, and the serving meat, alcohol and tobacco in community centres that have been made through the Gurdwara. Copy of Notice by Sikh Action Group SHAMBLES: LEAMINGTON & WARWICK GURDWARA VOTE PANTHIC.ORG | Published on August 6, 2011 Leamington Spa, UK - On Sunday 26th June, the new Gurdwara Committee of Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara held a General Meeting (Ajlaas) to push forward their plans to maintain and refurbish the old Gurdwara Sahib dilapidated buildings (Hall 1) to make into a wedding party hall. Twice before the Sangat showed overwhelming support of demolish the old Gurdwara building. In the first Ajlaas that took place in the old Gurdwara, the Sangat voted to have the old Gurdwara demolished and made into a Guru Ka Bagh (Garden) and in the second Ajlaas at the new Gurdwara, as a consequence of pressure from the wedding hall group the Guru Ka Bagh idea was dropped and instead plans for an Astro-Turf were passed. The recent vote was boycotted by a large number of Sangat as they consider the new Gurdwara Committee to be corrupt and bullies. In the vote the party seeking to make the old Gurdwara into a wedding hall got the majority vote with approximately 500 votes, whilst the side opposing the plans got approximately 130 votes. Despite the apparent “victory” of the apostate led Gurdwara Committee, there are number of issues that remain unaddressed by the Committee: Is there planning & building regulations consent for the proposed work on the old Gurdwara building? What are the costs involved in bringing Hall 1 into temporary use? Why are details of cost and revenues being deliberately hidden? What additional incremental income if any will this generate for the Gurdwara? Why has there been no further detailed consultation with Sangat on future plans, as was previously agreed? Who are the mystery donors and should this money not be used for the more urgent priority of debt reduction of the Gurdwara rather than making a wedding hall? Why is the new “Gurdwara Committee” not focussing upon debt reduction? Why divide the Sangat further on what has become a divisive issue? Will the Committee allow DJs and dancing in the new wedding hall and would they put into writing that meat, alcohol, dancing, tobacco or any other anti-Sikh activity will not take place in any of the Gurdwara buildings or properties? Finally would it not be better to start planning for a completely new build facility rather than waste time & money on a temporary solution? The General Ajlaas and vote wad described as “shambles” and “disgusting” by the various members of Sangat that contacted Panthic Weekly. According to several reports, the new Gurdwara Committee asked all members of the Sangat to provide Photo ID to enter the main Guru’s Darbaar where Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was present. Members of the Sangat, local or from outside, who had come to pay respects to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, were refused entry and turned away using intimidation and in some cases force. The Gurdwara Committee members threatened the Sangat with calling the police if they did not leave the Darbar Sahib hall by 12 noon. Reports accuse the Assistant General Secretary, Joga Hothi, of threatening elderly ladies who refused to leave the Guru’s Darbar. One Western Amritdhari lady who had come to the Gurdwara to do a ladies class, was initially refused to do Matha Tekh in the Darbar Sahib hall. The local Sangat claim that Amritdharis are treated and viewed with suspicion and made to feel unwelcome in the Gurdwara. Eventually the Amritdhari lady was allowed to do Matha Tekh but on the condition that she immediately left the Gurdwara. On lookers described the conduct of the Committee as “anti-Sikh” and “disgusting”. One mother of two said, “Anyone is welcome to come and have Darshan of Guru Maharaj, whether they are Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Sikh. It is said that Sikhs are stopped and restricted from going to have Darshan of their Guru. If they wanted to hold a meeting they should have held it in a separate hall or venue.” In attempts to influence the outcome of the vote, no information was given prior to the meeting that registration for voting would be closed at a given time. Although ID was requested, not everyone's ID was viewed. One elderly Amritdhari lady went to register her vote using her passport but she was not approved to be eligible to vote, although she was a local elderly citizen. When the mistake was realised, she was told it was too late now for her register and vote. In attempts to influence the results, voting started before any speeches had finished. Some local youth who are active in the Gurmat activities that take place in the Gurdwara were sitting in the Darbar Sahib as observers of the meeting and had no plans to vote. The two youngsters were allegedly threatened by the Joga Hothi that if they did not leave he would call the Police. The two boys, who are minors, were then physically manhandled and by Joga Hothi and elderly committee member, Gurbhag Singh. Seeing the physical bullying tactics of the Police, concerned women in the Sangat got up and protested at the physical abuse of the boys. A policeman arrived soon later but left very quickly after he saw that the boys were causing no harm or disturbance at all and that there were many other young children under the age of 18 sitting in the Darbar Sahib. What impression are the Gurdwara Committee given of the Sikh community and Gurdwara Sahib to the Police and wider public? It is claimed that Committee members were "helping" some Sangat members who did not understand how to vote by filling the slips in themselves or telling the elderly ladies to put a cross in the "Yes" box. This was witnessed by several Sangat members. One Committee member is reported to have witnessed this happen on ten occasions, but no action taken despite being reported. We received one report that members of the Committee were heard to say that Gurdwara funds would be used to fund the refurbishment of the old Gurdwara building despite the public face and line being used by the new Committee is that no funds would be taken from the Gurdwara to fund the wedding hall. To add further shame to the antics of these corrupt Masands, the Committee is planning to stop Keertan and Panjabi classes or begin charging children money. Already there are reports that the regular youth Gurmat programmes taking place at the Gurdwara have been asked to pay gas, electricity, and room booking charges. Is this way forward for Gurdwaras to inspire and encourage the new generation to come to the Gurdwara and learn about their faith? What a sorry state of the Panth this is! Where there are some Gurmat orientated Gurdwaras investing money and time in attracting the youth and wider public, there is a also a worrying number of Gurdwaras pushing the youth away from Sikhi and would rather promote dancing, binge drinking and parties than Amrit Parchaar and Gurmat activities. Bollywood dancing classes being taught on Gurdwara owned property As a further insult, whilst Gurmat classes may be stopped, the Sikh community centre attached to the Leamington & Warwick Gurdwara, is running “Bollywood dancing” lessons. Is this promoting Sikh culture and religion? Whilst the wider Sikh community are complaining of how Bollywood is influencing their youth in becoming Patits, it seems this Gurdwara Committee are more than happy with Sikh children learning to dance to Bollywood songs. LEAMINGTON SIKH GURDWARA BEADBI AND ONGOING INTIMIDATION PANTHIC.ORG | Published on April 11, 2011 Leamington Spa, Warwick (KP) – Currently tensions are rising in the Leamington Sikh community. An aggressive and vocal minority are pressing the Gurdwara Committee to reverse their plans in demolishing the old Gurdwara buildings to provide outdoor sports facilities. The opposing community members want the old Gurdwara building to be converted into an indoor sports complex which can then be used for meat and alcohol parties. In a statement to the local press, a member of the group against the demolition of the old Gurdwara buildings said, “We want to keep the building for small family functions like birthday parties…” The 2006 Sri Akal Takht Sahib’s Sandesh prohibits any Gurdwaras permitting meat, alcohol, tobacco, dance, non-religious music or any other anti-Gurmat activities in any Gurdwara owned buildings or properties. Despite this, the group opposing the demolition of the old Gurdwara buildings are planning to build a large wall between the new Gurdwara and old Gurdwara in an attempt to hide the sacrilege and violation of Panthic Maryada. Letter from Solicitor A meeting was held on Sunday 27th March 2011 for the Sangat to vote. The meeting and procedures for the Sunday had been agreed by both sides, however the opposition, intending to stir trouble and terror in the Sangat, caused havoc in the Guru’s Darbar. Whilst the General Secretary, Jagtar Singh Gill, delivered a presentation about the proposals for an astro turf pitch and play ground facilities for the Sangat, in particular the youth, trouble makers stood up and began to shout, jeer and showed aggressive behaviour. One Sikh lady in the Sangat said in a statement: “It was a disgusting site. What do I explain to my children? Do these elderly people have no fear the Guru? They stood up, shouted, screamed and insulted Gursikhs. I have never seen the Gurdwara so packed as it was on Sunday… Drunkards and hooligans had been brought to the Gurdwara by the opposition party to intimidate the Sangat. Strict action should be taken against all individuals who insulted Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that day.” The Gurdwara Committee with the support of the majority of the youth encouraged the Sangat to repeat Waheguru whilst the opposition hooligans hauled abuse and attempted to incite violence in the Guru’s Darbar. Despite, a ballot vote being agreed by both parties on the Friday before, the opposition tried to take away the ballot box and cause disruption causing concerned Sangat members to phone the Police. Under the watch of the Police, an independent observer and the Gurdwara solicitor, and Trustees, a ballot vote took place in which 422 voted in favour of the Gurdwara Committee’s proposal to demolish the old Gurdwara buildings and 64 against. In a statement to the press, Jagtar Singh Gill, speaking on behalf of the Gurdwara Committee, said that the committee had consulted with the local Sangat particularly the youth. He said a format for the ballot had been agreed, but many of those opposing the demolition chose not to vote. Both the old and new buildings are owned by the Gurdwara. Mr. Gill said that there would still be space for the community facilities those at the community centre called for. He further added that outdoor sports centre would be funded by a separate charity, as the Gurdwara funds were ring fenced to repay the loan for the new Gurdwara building. Protestors opposing the Sangat's decision to demolish the old Gurdwara buildings in hope for the old Gurdwara Darbar Hall to be converted into a booze hall in the guise of an indoor sports hall The current Gurdwara Committee said that they had decided not to demolish the old building but to leave the decision to the new Committee that would be appointed on the 24th April 2011. Despite unsuccessful smear campaigns from the opposition, the Gurdwara Committee told the media that “We have been completely transparent in all our dealings. We had a consultation before this and it was debated on the day. This has been probably been the most transparent committee there has ever been at the Gurdwara Sahib. It saddens us that it has come to this because the building is such a wonderful place of worship.” The saga continues, with the opposing party attempting to cause disruption and commit sacrilege in Guru’s Darbar on Sunday 3rd April. In the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, a spokesman from the party opposing the demolishing of the old Gurdwara buildings, said on stage, “The Sangat is higher than the Guru.” It is saddening that elders of the community have become blinded to the love, fear and respect of the Guru and are willing to do Morcha for the sake of a booze hall when our ancestors died protesting and fighting to free our Gurdwaras from the clutches of the Mahants who had desecrated the buildings by drinking alcohol, eating meat and dancing girls in Gurdwara owned properties.
  20. The apostate congress-communist led committee of Leamington and Warwick Gurdwara Sahib, has announced from the stage that it does not believe in Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh, Shaheed Bhai Sukha And Bhai Jinda as Shaheeds but as terrorists. The local Sangat has organised a Akhand Path Sahib in memory of Shaheeds, but that committee has vowed to hold a Akhand Path for Indira Ghandi as they consider her a Shaheed too. The committee has planned to disrupt the programme this Sunday at the Gurdwara Sahib, all Sangat is requested to attend. The wider Sangat needs to offer their support the local Sangat who are been bullied for upholding Panthic ideals.
  21. Its a big shame on Sikh Council for contradicting itself. I think the Sikhs should support this event. Sangat TV was ok when GNNSJ was in control of it, now it has fallen into the control of mindless screwballs, who have no vision whatso ever, who have a habit of shouting out aloud. 90% of the people presenting on Sangat and those managing are characterless people and have a very dubious background not mentioning any names. These are the same people go back 8 months who were issuing statements against each other, calling each other traitors. I humbly request GNNSJ & Bhai Sahib Mohinder Singh Ji take control of Sangat TV before it gets even more out of control. Gurmel Singh of the Sikh Council should resign as he does not know what his doing or what statement he is issuing. Sangat TV has made a joke out of the Panth, as it did during the riots inciting people continuously. I honestly cannot believe what i've heard on Sangat TV over the last couple of nights, i'm surprised they havent recommended Upinder Randhawa for Akal Takhat Sahib Jathedar. Sikh Channel should learn the lesson of working closer with the Sikh Panth and Panthic Jathebandian and form communication ties with them. Stop Sangat TV being driven into the ground CHANGE the MANAGEMENT! Masands out of SANGAT TV!
  22. Sangat TV management and presenters are full of hatred, i do not know what they are trying to achieve. The Sikh channel has had its ups and down, but has never done anything this low. Sikh channel has always given everyone the opportunity and became the platform for the Sikhs and brough the Sikhs into MAINSTREAM MEDIA. Other channels have come and gone, other channels will come and go. We have faith in our Guru and the Panth the Sikh Channel will always stay in chardi kala! Sikh Council (UK) the 5th can issue as many statements as it wants, but needs to remember that if Sikh Channel never came into existance and bought all you guys together Sikh Council (UK) the 5th today would not exist. I'm sure everyone can remember all the running about Sikh Channel did for this so called Council, and now look at them. No wonder half the Gurdwaras in the UK dont even recognise you.
  23. I strongly suggest, Sangat TV change the logo to the one shown above and change its name to MASAND TV
  24. All sangat please join this page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Sangat-TV/169421676473007 I'm not against Sangat TV itself JUST THE MANAGEMENT Bhai sahib Bhai Mohinder Singh Ji need to take control over their channel.
  25. All sangat please join this page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Sangat-TV/169421676473007 I'm not against Sangat TV itself JUST THE MANAGEMENT Bhai sahib Bhai Mohinder Singh Ji need to take control over their channel.
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